EMG Het Set VS Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2019
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Guitars:
LTD EX400
LTD DV8-R Dave Mustaine Signature
Amp Heads:
EVH 5150iii 50w
Marshall JVM 410H
Mesa Dual Rectifier 3ch 100w
@emgtv @seymourduncan
Jb’s definitely more natural and lively
Gotta say, the chunk on the JB with palm mutes is nothing short of godly.
I agree
In my ears, hands down the JB.
Both sound incredible.
Both sound amazing. EMG's, especially the Het Set, are incredibly clear and clean sounding though. The JB has a famous/infamous tone! When it comes to preference between the two, one can't go wrong!
Awesome comparison video, one of the best I've seen. I love the Duncans & the EMG's. I used 81/85's for a long time. They both sound great, just different. If I only had 1 guitar, I would probably get the Duncan's. They cover all bases, no battery & you can coil split, etc for even more tones.
I like to play oldschool metal (thrash/death) 80 90s styles and use EMG 81/85 more than 15 years but now I prefer and choose JB instead EMG cause sound of passive pickup is real natural touching when you play vibrato on Riff/Lead it's made me fun more than EMG 81 even got less output a bit.
Great job. Please more videos 😊
Surprising how they share similarities despite one being active/semi-active and the other passive. JB is underrated for metal. I know I turned my nose at it, but then I tried it in downtuned guitar (C#) and it was amazing, to my surprise!
I also tune my guitar to C# with the JB for metal and it sounds soo good.
the words "jb" and "underrated" don't belong in a sentence together
Seymour Duncan is warmer and more detailed, sounds clearer and more natural. I used EMG for many years on my guitars and my bass, on guitar I prefer Duncan on EMG Bass
You have the most consistently ultra heavy yet polished high gain tones on youtube and that's coming from THE pickiest tone nerd in the universe.
Great playing
man, your aternate picking is amazing. i want to play as good as you.
The LTD DV8🔥thats one heck of a rare guitar!
Great comparison and slick playing. Really enjoyed that.
Could you share your jvm settings please?
Both are good. I have two explorers as primary (only guitars😔). EMGs have that consistent lazer output and the JB have the warm harmonic overtones. Both are great.
I've used both. The SDs are my go-to set as they have all of the characteristics of a good set of EMGs yet you get the full attack of the pick on the passives and there's no need to buy batteries. Just my 2 cents.
Jazz/JB has always that clarity that wins my opinion.
That first riff was amazing.
4:03 u can see how JB sink in low diapason...nuff said
I have both)))))
Thank you for your videos!
got tricks for that great jb sound. i'm Always tending to lean towards the high gain setting on my engl with an optional clean boost but it gives me feedback hell all the time.
I noticed a drop in the mid-punch between the two in the video. I have the Het set in a similar guitar (Epi EX84) and the Duncan set in my KV2. All wood/build quality issues aside, I don't notice much, if any drop-off in the mids. Maybe a characteristic of the DV8?
On a side note, the Het set bridge is SUPER hot compared to any other pick-up (even other high gain beasts). I loved the JH neck, but hated the bridge initially. I play a mix of genres in a cover band, so everything sounding like nu metal was not good at all (admittedly, the 81 wasn't much better at this) and the pup sounded dull when the volume rolled off more than 15% or so.
I put a graphtech Ghost bridge on the Epi (piezzo system) to make the guitar a "1-stop shop for heavy, lighter, clean, and acoustic sounds. This caused a bit of signal loss due to the added addition pre-amp/toggle circuitry and made the 81 originally in the guitar sound gain-starved. Swapped to the Het set and BOOM, the little bit of signal loss resulted in the perfect amount of gain for the pick-up!
The Het Set is easily the best set of pickups that EMG have ever produced.
maybe so. I am curious about the Retroactives and the H1 passive ceramic too.
I'm definitely a SD JB/Jazz fanboy. They never cease to amaze me with their versatility of genres - all while being awesome.
Iv used both these as replacement pups more or less since the early 90s and I can honestly say this is a realistically fair comparison. IMHO if you need more Metallica go EMG obviously but the Duncan JB is more articulate versatile and will sound better on almost everything except where the song is recorded with EMGs. Miss that balls out EMG 81 tone but always left me wanting more when not playing metal
I have started a search for pick-ups for my BC Rich because they are just muddy. I was looking at EMGs but I am leaning more towards Seymour Duncan.
The JB/Jazz set suits my taste but the Het Set did sound pretty darn good.
jb dynamic is amazing. chug chug!
Both good comparisons. I choose Seymour's however.
Great comparison video, man! Looking for that JB to go up against the Invader ;)
It'll happen eventually! I'm installing 3 different pickups at the moment. Grabbed quite a few new guitars and 2 new heads. I may be a little tapped out for new pickups for a bit. But Invaders are high up on my list! Dominions, Imperiums, and then Invaders! Cheers -Ryan
i've got both. invader sounds more scooped due to the "ceramic" magnet that's balaced more on highs and low with a dip in the midrange, more "chunky" if you will, great low end. and jb with an alnico 5 delivers better in the midrange for leads and such.
I compared these two pickups years ago. The JB sounds exactly like the EMG With distortion. The JB has a better clean tone. Personally I would go for a super distortion with the jazz pick up. I prefer my clean tones through vintage single coils.🕊
I’ve been wanting to get a Seymour Duncan upgrade on my guitar. These are JB-4’s at the bridge right?
yeah but be careful get a tb4 if you have a floating bridge and sh4 if you have a fixed bridge
Great video. Loved it! I have a Jackson KV1 with dual JB4s, an Ltd Axxion and Dean VMNT with the Mustaine livewires. Prefer that to the EMG 81/89 from my KV Pro. But those single coil tones from the 89 are so fun!
Is it just me, or do Dave Mustaine signature pickups not have that much output? I always go back to the EMG 81/85's, the Mustaine's just seem dull in comparison.
Riffage 🤘
Next to HetSet Vs Dave Mustaine Thrash Factors (For the Culture)
They both sound soooo good, and I have both these installed in my 2 main guitars I play.
Is there a big difference of volume between these? I have het set on my guitar and i want to try the jb on the other, but i don't want to have to change the amp setup in the middle of concerts...
HA! Me as well!
I got bonebreakers on my main and jb jazz in my second. That distorsion is sick on jb
Funny… I just sold my HETset for a pair of DD Detonators and a Seymour Duncan JB SH4. Passive has an undeniably gorgeous tone, especially cleans
The Duncans only slightly though. The bass seems a bit tighter
I like hot rodd, cheap but have a nice sound🤘
Is there a big difference of volume between these? I have het set on my guitar and i want to try the jb on the other, but i don't want to have to change the amp setup in the middle of concerts...
No discernible difference in volume. You'll be fine. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar thanks friend
Nice video. To me this proves that going active is really unnecessary (again, for me). Actually, since the Het Set bridge has a ceramic magnet, it would have been a closer comparison with a Duncan Distortion...since it's a JB with a ceramic magnet. The JB has an Alnico 5 magnet. The JB is one of my all-time favorite pickups....good for heavy blues, classic metal, hair metal, modern metal, and thrash. That said...it would be cool to hear some of the newer EMG offerings like the 57 and Retro-Actives like the Hot 70s, etc. However, I'll tell you....the Dimarzio Dominion would "beat" both of these pickups in this setting. The Dominion is one of the best sounding pickups I've heard and better than any active I've heard. Of course, it's my opinion LOL. It would be great to see/hear you demo the Dominions. I also prefer Dimarzio neck pickups...the 36th Anniv PAF, newer PAF 59, and the Bluesbucker are some of the nicest neck humbuckers I've heard.
It's all up to what you are trying to achieve, for sure. I dig the Dominions that I have in one of my King Vs. It's hard for me to choose which I prefer between the Dominion, Imperium, and Titans. All 3 sound AWESOME. But I can certainly see why you love the Dominion! Cheers -Ryan
Hard to say what I prefer. I hear a subtile difference even on my cellphone speaker. Some riffs sound more clear "in you face" with EMG but at the same time lack the "warmth" of the seymor duncans. So it all depends on what you're after and in what situations. :p
Both sound great but I have to admit the JB/Jazz sound warmer, chunkier, articulate and tone is a little more rich. The Jazz neck did not sound that great with heavy distortion. A Duncan 59 would sound better in aspect. Great shootout and great riffing sir!!!
Agree, Jazz sound great on clean channel I also prefer the 59 for distortion leads
i love my JB for metal.
the jb sound more fizzy on the low end, not a big deal since they sound fatter in the lead. the hetset has the rythm in the pocket but probably sounds more sterile on the leads. maybe a combo of emg and jb in a 2 guitarist settup ^^. one going for the more scooped nature and the other more fo the midrange.
Emg has more balls, definitely. 🤘 I think we all want that in our sound.
Shoot them out with the Thrash Factors! Or Mustaine Livewires. And JB/Jazz with 81/60. Signature models and stock models.
Thrash Factors, Marty Friedman’s, Bone Breakers, Titans, Dominions, Blackouts, Imperiums... they will all be shot out. I can’t remember if I have any more new pickups. I bought a ton. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar I'll be waiting for all those videos
JB/Jazz has been my go to set for years. Always seemed to me like everything else was just a copy of a JB.
Het Set is clear winner in all departments.
Both good, emotional louder
You have to try the Marty Friedman set from EMG. Its a JB whit the EMG touch. One of the best sets out there.
I have the Marty Friedman set in a KE3. Nice set for sure! Cheers -Ryan
i have it, it's one of the best i've ever heard. a jb with that emg bite.
Het Set for me
This was great! i have debating these pickups so much, so this video was higly needed. This video shows that the hetset is actually great pickups, i was afraid they were a signature gimmick. going for the JB set though, cause they are a tad more versatile. but if im choosing active pickups in another guitar another time, the hetset will be on my radar! would love to see a hetset vs Gus G signature comparison though!
i have the fishman fluence and looking for something more punchy. Hard to tell with those 2. any advise?????.
just use eq before any distortion. it's ~the same thing. atm I just eq my emg's to make them sound like duncans (I mainly add the bass hump and 1-2k spike).
if you like punchy mids, the JB is probably the punchiest all-rounder you can get. crunchy AF.
@@podhditalia So, you like the duncans for good mids? I am upgrading my Charvel Tele. I have the Jim root fender tele with 81/60 and I love it.. But I do love mids cutting through the mix. The charvel has the distortion buckers and they are too bassy for me.
@@sgtjeremyh i've always been a passive guy so i'm judging basing on what i know and owned. actives just have slightly different tech going on (preamps and stuff), but for the most part classic "evergreen" pickups are based on the same tonal blueprint, speaking voice-wise. as you can hear there as well, there's not a world of difference between an 81 and a JB. close your eyes and it's not that difficult to just forget about it. maybe you just have some EQing issues in your signal processing. also mind that you'd have to re-do all your electronics to switch to passives.
this being said, if your priority is cutting through the mix live, you basically can't go wrong on a JB - for a passive at least. it has that unmistakable upper mid kinda "cocked wah" spike. like it or hate it, but it's been the sound of at least two decades and counting in hard rock and metal. in the studio, you just EQ it out (if needed). live, it cuts through anything like a hot knife on butter. but that's not to say an 81 can't cut through. a JB will be just more prominent on that particular aspect - imo. i know i'm a mid heavy, treblehead kind of guy so i love my JB. it's really a matter of personal taste and, let's say, tonal self awareness.
I gotta give it to the JB but the her set wasn’t bad, just not for my ears as a passive guy. Active pups sound sterile but if we had a get set vs blackouts that would be something
The JB has more growl with overdrive/distortion than the EMG bridge. The Jazz retains more high end pick attack than the EMG neck.
I have the Jbs in my Kelly and they are awesome. A rounder more versatile sound I think
Agree
To me, the Het Set sounds a bit muddier and the Seymour Duncans sound more well balanced. But I'm a little biased. It would be interesting to see a blind tone test.
jb all day I have it I. the bridge ofoofmy LP customs
I like them both. I would probably go with the JB just more versatile
I honestly don't hear any difference between the two pickups. Maybe I'm deaf ...
Passive always have more harmonic richness.
Duncan JB for me. It doesn’t need batteries 🫡
duncans, all the way, sounded better to me. but im biased
''But I'm biased'' the 3 words to make a statement useless to others..
I have one of my guitars
1 of my guitars has the Duncan jb set and my other guitar has the het set so that a when I record im able to get better dynamics and tone, I use the het set for the lead guitar parts and the JB for the rhythm guitar parts and it sounds so fucking heavy
JB!!
81, thicker mids and more note definition the jb sounds brittle to my ears with an annoying pick attack.
Yea, I agree. I hate that chick chick chick you get with passives every time you strum or mute. It's annoying as could be.
Hm, how would these sound on an alder body? I got some active PUs on my guitar, that plays really nice but the active pickups are totally lame, totally dull and unprecise.
i had a JB/Jazz combo in my alder Charvel and they absolutely slayed. I don't like how they sound in mahogany guitars though
Do A Emg het set Vs Seymour duncan Dave mustaine video...？😈😈😈
It’s on the list... I have the Thrash Factor installed on the DV8R now. I’ll also be doing a Hammett VS Mustaine... and Marty Friedman Set, Jake Bowen Set... I have a large list, though! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Great job man！I like all pickup on you list！😁😃
@@Crypticmaskguitar Another cool comparison would be the Mustaine Livewire active set vs. the EMG 57/66 or 81/85. Using the Livewires currently w/ 24 volts. Pretty awesome.
Duncan JBs would go in my guitar because active pickups squeal too much for my liking
JB & Jazz gets my vote, it sounds more "alive" and in your face. HetSet is aggressive but sounds very flat to me and one dimensional.
Are those the Duncan hot rodded set?
Standard JB/Jazz... the Title Card for the video is a little weird. I had to add the picture in because they pickups came in the guitar. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar YES ... SD calls the SET Hot Rodded Humbuckers , but it's just the JB and Jazz together as a set.
Both sound killer! From personal experience emgs sound awesome for rythm.. but lead sounds lack for me. The JB is well versed in both
Great playing, cant believe JB cant do metal that well. I have the Het set and it's going out soon.
JB FOREVER!!! # -; ]
Seymour Duncans sound MUCH better, clean and dirty.
Duncans sounded better for me
Emg 57/66 vs het set or fishman
EMGs destroy dynamics. They’ve always felt flat to me. The eq is fine, but the feel and dynamic of passives is where it’s at for me. That thud from palm mutes is choked on actives and everything is compressed.
EMG has more balls ⚽️ 🏈⚾️🥎🏐
HET SET for me, but the JB are a classic sound. Looking forward to hear the bone breaker. I keep hearing they are just EMG 81’s.
They're not. I already have a set of Bone Breakers and have had 81/60 for quite some time... not the same. Confirmed from EMG directly as well. The same people said that the Het Set was just an 81/60, too. 81/60 vs Bone Breakers is on the list, too. I wouldn't have bought a second set of Bone Breakers if they were just 81/60s. Cheers -Ryan
didn't think i was gonna like the JB as much as i did
It's an AWESOME pickup! Cheers -Ryan
Honestly couldn't tell with High gain clean sounds the Duncans win
It's definitely subtle! Basically the Duncan's are hotter and fuller whereas the Hetfields are much cleaner. Both are GREAT choices, though! Cheers -Ryan
This test does not make any sense. Every guitar sounds different. You should use only one guitar for comparison.
This is a VERY common way of testing pickups... one of the. reasons behind it is wiring. One has quick attach and one requires soldering. This all takes up a lot of time. For a simple, throw away video like this... it's not worth it. BUT it's always great when more people make videos... and they are very easy to do, they just take time. I recommend looking into making this comparison yourself. That way you can make the video how you would like to see it. Cheers -Ryan
The designer of the white guitar must have been having a bad day when that was on the drawing board.