Mig-23ML In War Thunder : A Basic Review
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Checking out the Mig-23ML, a rank 7 premium jet in War Thunder's Soviet air tree.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro & History
02:09 Systems & Weapons
04:24 Flight Performance
06:39 Combat Tactics
08:52 Miscellaneous
10:03 Conclusions - Ігри
Complete Guide To Radar:
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Complete Guide To Air To Air Missiles:
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Complete Guide To Air To Ground Weapons:
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This is definitely one of the better premiums you can get. If you're good at using top jets, then this one will sing. Can't argue with anything Tim said in this vid. As always, Tim hits the mark better than the R27ER.
After playing dcs in the flankers. The radar being superimposed on the hud is probably the nicest quality of like thing ever.
I got myself adjusted to it back when the Mig-23MLD was top of the meta, now I kindof miss it when I fly other jets in VR.
@@TimsVarietyaround then, like late 2021 was when I first got to top tier. I kinda miss that iteration of supersonics in WT, like I'd joke and complain about being on the same three tiny flat Europe maps but I actually think I miss the variety in map rotation the most.
"Is it worth it?" No. Nothing that small is worth $70.
What about $35?
@firstduckofwellington6889 I'd say no but I bought it anyways. It makes decent for USSR grind, gotten through a tier of vehicles in under 4 hours lol.
@@charleslujan1038but you bought it. So it must have been worth it to you?
@@Thiccron it was, and I quite enjoy it. I just dont recommend buying it.
I already have the su25 which i bought mainly for my lineup for ground RB russia, i want to grind air towards the su27 tho and i can buy the mig23 on sale, the question is should i buy it or should i just grind with su25 lol, seems cancerous at 10.0
Ive recently been to Sofia in Bulgaria, Ive seen more Mig 23s in a museum than Ill ever need. Gorgeous aircraft! I also saw the Mig21 and its trainer variants plus a German Tornado
Let’s goo Tim uploaded
Every wednesday (at a minimum) :-)
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@@carsontotino2769shur up!!!
i've started taking only the R-24T when playing just because it's incredibly fun to go off to the side slightly, climb to the heavens, and then either swat F-14s out of the sky with something they don't know is coming or drop one from below 12km up. keeping a hard lock with IRST also helps the R-24T and R-60s gain a ton of flare resistance in the rear aspect and sometimes even side aspect
I’m fairly certain neither the r24T nor the r60M have any sort of datalink capability
the R24T is fun especially since most people think you are firing an R-60M so they'll pop one or two flares which is just not enough
@@spectre0969 in reality. probably not, in war thunder, that shit has made R-60s charge through flares to rail the asses of phantoms
@@spectre0969 You can't have datalinnk capability with irst mate, it's just like an AMRAAM being guided by radar while you hold the lock and the other guy chaffs so in this case, the irst is "strengthning" the lock for the missiles.
@@stein_the_lynx3284 It's placebo effect. The IRST does absolutely nothing in game whatsoever once your missile has left the rails.
A few things regarding the HUD which is awesome in Sim Battles.
When you lock an enemy, either with Radar or IRST, the HUD gives you a circle around them, which makes it really easy to find them.
Also, when you lock an enemy with a Missile, you have a range bar on the left side, showing you the Optimal launch distance with an arrow.
Its a really cool HUD once you understand what it does.
I just think it's funny that the ML upgrade dident give it R-24 capability, that was literally what the MLD upgrade was for
The MLA was the first one to get r24. The MLA is a late production ML and the line betwen the ML and MLA production is very blurry. We dont realy know when the switch was done, similarly to the t72ural1 getting composite armor before the switch to the t72A wich was the one wich was ment to have composites. I guess gaijin decided to go with the extremely late production ML wich could hipoteticaly already be the MLA, plus r24 sell beter than r23.
I diddent know the MLA came first, thank you for the correction
Yes, basically what the first comment said. In Russian sources not much evidence separates ML and MLA production, both are used interchangeably, as the only considerable difference between the two was a slightly different radar. For example, East Germany did list their planes as MLAs, but in Russian sources they only mention MLs being sold. So it's kinda correct that the german one in game is an MLA, Gaijin can be very careful with details when they want :)
The radar actually does have multiple range presets, but only in search or search LD, and only above a certain hight.
I have watched all of your review videos within a week, they are informational, and easy to watch. Thank you for what you do!
It might sound awkward, but I find both variants of R-24 to be better than their R-27 counterparts, including ER. They don't have that weird zig-zaging tendency, which often leads to nosedives into a hillside and I find TRK MTI being more reliable than TRK PD, minus the altitude requirements.
The MTI mode is frequently underestimated, I'm a big fan of it.
I love just putting your videos on and listening to them while I play War Thunder. Very relaxing and informative!
I love the format of these videos, definitely one of the best WT channels
Thanks so much for that video tim, needed the infos ❤
I swear i just bought it and now blud uploads a review, thanks you
Its impressive that the MiG-23 is the fastest jet in game, even with 4th gen jets being introduced.
I dont remember off hand, but I think the new J-8 might have a marginally higher top-end at altitude.
3rd generation fighters emphasized straight-line speed in a way that more modern 4th and 5th generation fighters have not.
@@zanaduz2018 did you both forget that the mig 29 is in game
I was speaking generally that as a whole, 4th and 5th generation fighters de-emphasized pure straight-line speed for other aspects (maneuverability, stealth, networking, etc.).
Even though it is the fastest it doesn't get to speed as quickly as the Mig-29 does so unless you really are in for a very long chase the Mig-29 will outrun it
Im not sure if this is the case for the Mig23ML, but the R24Rs on the MLD are literally un-notchable, one more reason why i love the Mig23 line.
It's mostly because of the radar modes.
notching is the achilles heel of pulse doppler mode. You can turn off pulse doppler if you don't want enemies to be able to notch you. You just have to forfeit all of the benefits that pulse doppler otherwise provides.
Great vid, thx!
You forgot that the wings break very VERY often even with the auto-wing sweep mode on
Its mid sweep where it breaks, otherwise its no problem. Just give a few taps of negative elevator to negate it
I haven't run into any wingrip issues with it that I wasn't intentionally trying to cause. I've seen a few others mention wingrip problems, but didn't run into any myself.
@@rickdubbink i'll try that thanks
I have no clue how this plane is rated at 11.0 in sim battles, just doesnt seem fair since it’s better than everything else by a huge margin also at 11.0 sim
Hi Tim love your guides! Was wondering if you would ever do a guide video on the Fiat G91 R series?
Gotta love the variety of those custom roundels you used throughout this review lol. I think I spotted Indonesian, Cuban, and DPRK ones.
Babe, wake up, Tim uploaded a new review!
Hi Tim! Amazing video as always and straight to the point, can i ask you a question or maybe to anyone who reads this? Im thinking on purchasing one of this top premium dogges but im still uncertain on what to buy the f4s im dont think its worth in my case at least because im almost there from the f16 (and hopefully the road map gets to the point of lower rp research) and the russian tech tree its amazing but i want to see another viable option what would you reccomend? Thanks as always for your videos I really like them!
Is there a place where we can get more specific information on missiles in the game? Like how susceptible a missile is to countermeasures? Thank you for the video Tim!
Just google it. There is a spreadsheet floating around
The r24s cannot be mixed, but the r23s CAN. So there is a choice to make between power and versatility. Food for thought
She's a beauty! Probably the loveliest jet the Soviets produced until the Fulcrums and the Flankers started rolling.
Do you think the f-16 will get the drop tanks under the wings insted of the tank under the engine intake
at somepoint for sure, but for now i think most planes are just going to get single tanks until majority of the jets get access to droptanks
What I'm really waiting for them to do is get rid of it's g limiter
@@casualspawnpeeking3680 yeah, an option to turn on/off, like mec, manual sweep and vtol
Excellent review Tim, I’m thinking of grinding the German MLA. I’ve heard that the ML and MLA are identical is that correct?
Very close to identical. I have a review of the MLA up, but its a little older.
Premiun pack + 70 dollar + new players+ ML= free kill, i love this kids so easy to kill❤
I would take two R-24s over 4 Aim 7F/Ms any day. Well except for maybe 16 months ago, when you could kill opponents quite easily in 20-30km BVR engagements.
I know is two months old the video but i have been seeing videos about the mig and the KA-50 constantly, in the sales for the xbox i want one of them, well i love the KA-50 my favorite Heli in world, but i also love the MIG-29 iam already in the SU-25 in tech tree but the grind for the next tier is painful.
So i buy the MIG or Buy the KA-50 with some extra money buy a talisman for the SU-25?
Shoutout to the Cuban skin
It’s the best top tier premium in game atm so worth it
It isnt
U are best bro.. u are best..👍
Although the default range setting of ML's Radar is 30Km, you can change the range set from the altitude 2400m. (60 and 90km are available)
So you can use it for situational awareness.
I think these or This Jet is bad@$$ looking without a doubt it just looks tough.
Will you please do a review on the f-86f-40 jasdf?
You're actually slightly incorrect about the radar not having multiple range presets and sweep angles.
Above 1750m altitude you can have 3 range presets (30, 60, 90km) in both Look Up and LD Mode.
Furthermore Look Up and Look Down have 2 angle presets (60x8, 60x12), though MTI is limited to 60x4.
Had any thoughts about the more recent economy changes, all I could think of when I saw them was somebody actually read your documents and saw you videos about suggestions lol
Yes, but I'm waiting until they're further along before I post anything. I'll also be updating my vid on efficiently grinding the tech tree once they're done, since a lot is changing.
@@TimsVariety I appreciate you Tim, have an awesome day !
Babe wake up
Love your vids but when is the AJS video ready?
Soon.
timmy time
the only rank 7 premium thats truly worth getting
I bought it during the last sales... so 35€ for it seems okeish. Quick question though, does playing with R24T is still better than the radar version in today's battle?
You should review the J-7II next.
I'll get to it eventually.
Safe to say this thing is the bew XP-50
Im level 98 and still dont know how to use radar.😢
I'll go watch your radar guide.
An updated version is coming out in a day or two.
Indonesian roundel detected 🇮🇩🇮🇩
If anybody could tell me, do you have to babysit the R-24R and 24T? Is it required to maintain an radar/IRST lock?
R yes, T no.
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Could you do a F2H-2 review?
I'll get to it eventually.
Timbs
Would you recommend this or su25k to grind ussr ( i have experience at top tier on f14s)
The question is really "do you prefer ground attack, or air combat?"
Well i'm fine with both as i've used the a-10 late as well. Im mainly thinking about which would be the most consistent but fun at the same time because I know bombing with the f5c got very boring fast
I just want to get the mig29 and yak141 fast while having fun
“Wow, great top tier grinder”
>70USD
“…Never mind”
So I'm gonna out myself, I won a bet with a friend. I ended up getting this plane out of it. I had played up to at MOST 3.7 in Air. I got this jet played it after the F-4S, and the MIG-23ML is league better for a new player. This jet excels in its interceptor role, and while you need to learn countermeasures, radar is not necessary. Both IR lock missles are...serviceable. I usually play arcade with it in stead of realistic, but even then it works.
Imagine if premiums capped out at 40 bucks. Still a lot of money for a virtual vehicle that cost pennies in comparison to make, but it's still just greedy enough for gaijin to make insane bank, and not gross enough to stop me from even considering it.
What's the difference between the mig 23ml and the mig 23 mla?
Same thing the MLA is German
what is ccip for guns ?
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Struggling hard with it, played 10 games 10 losses 0 kills. Can't get anything with it despite my missiles locking with easy angles that the likes of the r7m would hit.
@oz314 R-60M is very very short range, and the R-24s are kinda mid. Try playing as an interceptor and shoot off the missiles at a closer range. Also pick your targets, I frequently see Su-17s and Su-22s which can’t really compete with the 23ML or people who are not paying attention.
Tbh i dont get how this jet is so low. Litterally theae kirb stomp phantoms. Like idek why they made a phantom premium its far outclassed by this thing
8:20 with what loadout? Ive never managed to destroy an entire base with the Mig23ML?
8:36 nope i use the S-24 rockets, fire 2x2, get 2 kills, ez
pain
@TimsVariety Come on man that is not a shameless plug bro you made the videos you are plugging so PLUG away and trust you, me, there are MANY people that should be watching them videos.
I wish I could get my mom's credit card 😢 all I can do is watch in my mig 9
... Mig-9 you say? ...
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I wanted to like it so badly, but it just gets absolutely dominated by F-14/16 and MiG-29. In real life the F-5 could absolutely dominate it, so why why why would they make it fight aircraft that are leagues better than it?
The answer is Gaijin is a POS game developer and company. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing. And they need to add up to 15.0 BR and spread everything out before they add EVEN more vehicles.
I don’t really care anymore though. I literally uninstalled War Thunder the other day after getting shredded by SPAA in Sim over and over and over again unable to even get close enough to engage them, after they swore they reduced SPAA accuracy in Sim Battles.. I’ve just had enough with being punished for trying to play the game.
I am really sorry, but I cannot like the video since you bombed in a MiG.
I usually try to demonstrate a variety of play styles and situations.
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the R-24T is better than the R-27T so it is kind of irreplaceable if you want to max out a few jets in RB to play around with in AB..as long as this is a fact the jet will be up with the best of them!
Honestly my tactic is wait 60 secs until I take off then fire my R-24Ts from side aspect about 7km away and then rtb. Works 60% of the time but my entire team dies because they all go to the furball and stay in the furball.
If you flank good enough you can put yourself in pos to launch an r60 or two, worked out for me a few times on the vietnam map
@@_Ladiesman217 I try that but F16s have the same idea.