Ibanez J Custom RG8570Z Guitar Review: Thin Neck Shred Heaven
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2019
- Taking a look at the Ibanez J Custom RG8570Z (2018) in Rutile Black this week. The J Custom line offers Ibanez's "best of the best." Does it hold up when compared to the already impeccable quality of their Prestige line? Let's dive into a guitar that's been "on my list" since I was 17.
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Look closely at your fretboard positions, there are dots on them, they're just incorporated into the design.
Good observation!
I saw that too lol
This guy... Smh. Has a Ferrari and says it's uncomfortable. Man I would be jumping with joy
There are also regular black dots on the top side edges of the neck
You're righ!!! Cool... like the spider on the American $1 bill... What? You don't know where it is? ;). Just ask :)
I've had my 8750z in Chrysocolla for about 6 months now. As you note the entire guitar is flawless, the frets are truly works of art. Over the past 5 years or so I've moved almost completely towards Ibanez except for my 2017 LP Standard HP and a MIM Strat. The RG shape just fits (recently traded the S1070 in my profile pic for a 77p) me and as I have gotten older (turn 50 in a few days) the necks are just more comfortable and easier to play for long periods of time. I've also found with a little tweaking on my amps I can get pretty much any sound I want (except for a tele sound) on my RGs, especially this one.
The Tree of Life is actually different, much more ornate, on the J Custom than the JEM... definitely more inlays. Like you they threw me off at first but as I'm playing RGs most of the time I don't look much, when I do the dots work well for me now, it just took a few weeks to get use the the neck also being a work of art.
The Edge Zero with the ZPE helps to stabilize the trem (can get one without the ZPE on Prestige models outside the US - they have to pay a fine to ship these to the US which is why they are only on the J Custom now, something to do with a patent infringement). You can make it so tight it won't go out of tune when you break a string.
Congratulations on the guitar, it will continue to grow on you! The Black Rutile is dead sexy and as you note the quality is bar none!
Awesome! Glad it works for you. It cramps me up a bit, but there wasn't a single flaw on this thing. Beautiful piece of work from Ibanez. And I thought the splits/cleans weren't as nasty as a lot of modern heavy rock/metal guitars. And you are right on the tree of life, I actually didn't know it was different from a Jem inlay until someone else mentioned it. Guess the J Custom is even more over the top :) Thanks for watching!
Interesting post, useful! I'm deciding now between an AZ4202 and a J Custom! I don't know if it's possible to reach the AZ sounds with this guitar
RGs are versatile.
Love the Opeth riffs. Thanks for this review man! been looking into a J.custom and this review is really informative.
I had a 2012 Prestige J Craft and it was an absolutely amazing instrument. I'd love to get my hands on one of these.
I own one and love and all your comments are perfect done, thank you
Thumbs up for the surprise Opeth! I love how you throw them in so many of your vids.
Gives me a reason to try to learn some riffs from each song :P
I've had my J Custom for a couple of years. I agree the neck is wider than most. I played it as a main guitar for two months and now it feels natural. I still get a little lost when I switch back to my Fender and more on my Heritage H150(LP). I have found that I can get any tone I want out of it. The J Custom is a beast of a guitar. My Schecter Hell Raiser doesn't even compare. Those who want the ultimate super strat with floating trem will be very happy with it. The combination of mahogany and maple is great for tone and sustain. Great overview of this guitar.
Have my left handed J custom coming in the mail right now. This video confirms I made the right call. Thanks!
Congrats, I bet you're gonna love it! As long as you like that thin neck. It's a flawless build.
Such a beautiful guitar. Such craftsmanship. Unbelievable!
Congrats !!!!
Sweet! I love my J.Custom. The neck just plays like butter. So smooth. Congrats man on another killer purchase
The action and setup on this thing is nuts. I struggled to get comfortable on the mega thin neck but man, the quality is off the charts.
Plays like butter. Does that mean it plays good or does it leave you with greasy fingers. My ibanez has feather touch action and a light speed neck profile. Butter? Every time I hear that analogy I feel nauseous. I'm glad my guitar doesn't play like butter.
@@ericdenton6664 I hear you
Great and honest review - thanks
Fair and accurate review - I LOVE both my J-Custom RG8570Z and RG8520SDE's. Neck comment absolutely accurate - WIDE, FLAT and THIN :)
keep up the awesome work! :)
Crazy neck shape, but I can't get enough of how it looks. Stunning guitar.
Hey
Really interested in a j.custom
Kinda concerned about the pick ups, I'm a bareknuckle guy. How are they?
Also I'm used to 400mm radius Rg premium
I dont think the difference is that huge Considering i already own 3 RG's
Enjoyed this review, good job m8.
Thanks for dropping by :)
Congrats beauty of a purchase
It sure is. Wish the neck suited me better but damn, it's hot.
Played a JCustom just like this one a few years back, it was flawless.
Yeah crazy detail on this thing. The only thing I noticed was they left a little wood dust in the input jack area. Then again, most brands do :) It just feels like such a high quality instrument, I wish I could keep it. The neck was driving me crazy though so it's time to move on hah.
My first view of your videos mate, & you have a cool, self-effacing personality. Really pitch perfect, balanced delivery. I have a new RG8570Z & my observations are spot on with yours. Subscribed.
Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it!
Wow listening to the older Fractal he’s using really shows how much their modelling has improved since then.
sounds and looks real nice! wouldnt mind owning / playing one, then again I seem to always dig Ibanez' stuff. been wanting a JS forever. maple binding is sweet. enjoyed the video.
Thanks buddy! Yeah it's a blast, but that neck shape is just never gonna feel right to me. I'll hold out for an AZ J Custom. Come on Ibanez, do it!
You could search for an used RG3520/3521z which is pretty much this without the fancy inlays at a much more affordable price. Just saying :)
Nice guitar man!
I have 4 RGs, from a cheep RG220B to a Premium 25th aniversary RG1XXV, I love them all. I'd love to get a Prestige or J Custom one day, as well as a JEM and JPM.
My heart is open wide when I see this.
If you listen your various manufacturers you get wildly different results from their instruments and Ibanez definitely has a sound, loaded with pickups. I thought it was just the Universe, but every time you do an Ibanez I hear their distinct sound.
Compared to others, it’s a compliment. Who wouldn’t want to have the alternate color(s) in their vocabulary?
The 7 string effect, wide necks. They’re a moment to warm up to. Really fair price, on it. It won’t last long. I wanted the anniversary J Custom, and it was 2.5 times the price, Mahogany bodied.
Thanks, as always for the detailed camera work and discussion. I’ve always wondered what that tremolo entailed and I was seriously impressed. Another fine review.
Thanks man, always appreciate it. Agreed, Ibanez does seem to have its own sound. I played this thing for nearly 2 weeks and just never got comfortable on the neck.
In my experience most RG's are glassy like fenders, but there's also a 'squish'-factor to how the note attack feels/plays/sounds, particularly the basswood-bodied ones.
So they don't twang much, instead they 'splat' the upper-mids' dynamics. Whereas Fenders tend more towards 'klang' and grind when pots are wide open.
Great review Chris. Glad to see you finally review one of these and I agree with everything you said here. The customs I’ve handled have all had stunning craftsmanship, but unfortunately the necks are just too thin and flat, and the fretboard radius feels like playing a piece of lumber. I used to be a huge RG guy and miss them at times. They have some cool new offerings in the Prestige and J Custom lines and everyone I tried was a hard no for me. I’m fairly flexible on neck shapes but the super wizard is just absurd.
That tree of life inlay is also a no go for me. It’s another aspect of the guitar that’s very impressive in terms of craftsmanship but it’s just too gaudy and confusing to play on. I’d honestly rather a blank fretboard with side dots because at least there’s nothing on the board to throw you off. Ibanez does put out a J Custom model once and a while with offset, standard or no dots but they’re pretty rare.
Yeah we're in the same boat. I love it, but I can't have it haha.
This guitar is currently on sale for Black Friday on my Reverb store: reverb.grsm.io/theguitarpitshop (if you are outside of the USA my store will appear blank unless you change your reverb settings).
Oh my, sold already. That was fast.
I have shipping limited to the USA, so if you're outside of the country my Reverb shop will appear blank. It's still for sale :)
That intro was Killah man!!
Thanks buddy! I got almost a quarter of the notes right! :P
The thing I like most about RGs is the sheer size of the lower cutaway - there's so much more space to get your fretting hand in that upper area than there is on a regular superstrat type guitar. I gravitate toward thin necks, but based on the RG550 reissues I've had the chance to pick up in stores, the Super Wizard is a little too thin even for me. I think Jackson necks hit the sweet spot as far as shreddy neck guitars go.
Classic, great shape for sure. Surprising weight on this one though. And I don't mind thin necks either, but I have a limit. This is past it haha.
That Yamaha sitting behind you looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to your review.
Yup, it's up next! MIJ model.
These are so gorgeous, I have my eye on the royal blue sapphire one. Also, great job on the erotomania solo.
If you are in the US, there is a nice one on Reverb right now for $2k used. Pretty uncommon to see them under that, with these wacky pandemic prices these days...
@@TheGuitarPit in my country it’s $2200ish new. For me that price is like a whole life time saving haha if you happen to visit my country bring some cash you can get USA&Japan guitars in ridiculously cheap price. The drawback of cheaper guitar here is there’s no return policy.
I thought it looked and sounded great Chris, each to there own as they say buddy, and you sold already, good on ya, Cheers mate
Thanks Casper :)
I have the same guitar but in a royal blue. They are the top tier for Ibanez RG, and so they push the limits of what they are known for, mostly being thin necks.
Just on the trem system, the adjustment wheel is not a stiffness adjuster. It is just an easier adjustment method than the two screws and a claw that most floyd rose guitars have. These however also have the zero point - that extra bar that touches the block. That extra bar and springs help pull the guitar back to "zero" which should be the in tune and level point of the trem system. The other setup that Ibanez mention is removal of that zero point bar, and setting the spring tension to balance with the strings for a full floating effect. How you have it set up now is more stable, but also means you cant do some trem movements like flutters. The main springs are usually backed off lighter when the stop bar is in though so the stop bar can do its job better.
Anyway, great video, seen a few of yours now and they have all been great, so consider me subbed.
Thanks! Yeah I did a bit more reading on the trem. The entire thing is pretty cool engineering. I don't use floating systems much but thought this one seemed high quality. I did hear a couple complaints in the comments where some people preferred the old system as well. Thanks for watching!
Isn’t the fretboard Macassar Ebony? They are lighter in colour than the ebony we see on Jacksons/ESP, but pretty sure they only put macassar ebony on them?
That is beautiful :-) I have a RG150 and also had a RG2610, gorgeous guitars, would love to try a J Custom
It really is! A guitar that just exudes quality and craftsmanship. Really a beautiful piece of work. The neck frustrated my hands a bit, but that's just personal preference. The quality here is 100%.
What was the song you're playing at the beginning? I've never heard it.
Great Review! I have the same opinion about the missing stainless steel frets and the locking tuners. For a guitar in this price range, it should be a standard. I also agree on the pickup choice. The Tone Zone is quite muddy and not really precise. My recommendation is a DiMarzio Breed Bridge (and Neck) in combination with a 250kOhm logarithmic volume potentiometer with 22pF capacitor in parallel. This gives you a very transparent and precise bridge pickup sound. I’m really thinking about getting me the current j.custom in Royal Sapphire Blue.
Thanks Marc! They're super nice guitars, and I guess the insane fretwork on nickel would be hard to reproduce in stainless. Either way, I do really think the extra money isn't wasted here. You really do get a couple of really special features that make it stand out. If you like the shape and style, I'd say go for it!
Love your reviews, you deserve far more suscribers. Have you consider to make a video of that katana on the back? Is it good enough for a high end guitar? Cheers!!!
Thanks dude! I've had the katana a while and honestly haven't played it much. It seemed to sound pretty good (especially when you consider the price) and USB functionality should make it easy to record. I just figured every channel has reviewed it so I wasn't sure if my review would add much more value. Seems like everyone agrees they are solid amps for the price.
Have this exact guitar, love it to bits! That smile on your face dude says it all :D Once you're used to that neck and the width I conclude it's actually really forgiving. That maple top is only 4mm, so that leaves a lot of mahogany to weigh it down. 1 thing i might've wanted to change but obviously won't... that zero edge, i'd love a d-tuna on this :D
Yeah it's one weighty guitar! But man, the quality. Stunning work from Ibanez. Really enjoyed playing this one, minus the hand cramps lol.
@@TheGuitarPit Ah man, i feel for you :( Yes the build quality is out of this world, and once you get used to the neck the playability too.
I think I'm gonna get one
Take those pickups out and slap in a set of duncan parallel axis. I got my white rg652 and man did it change the whole instruments sound and my desire to play it. Beautiful top on that j craft
This inlay it’s super easy to remember, even more than Tree of life because the little dots. If you want a neural problem check out the Edwards ESP inlay OMG! XD
If you’re going to have one last go on a wizard neck - this would be the one man! Hope it serves you well!
Yeah exactly :) One last hurrah haha.
So, years and years ago I bought a JEM, picking it over a J custom in the store. I always kind of wondered and slightly regretted that, but there really wasn't much difference between the Jem and the J-custom. (2006 though, so that might not compare at all anymore.)
Another funny thing, I like the tree of life inlay, but I just noticed that the Jem has a different tree of life. I always thought it was the same one, but it quite different. The Jem one is certainly more readable.
And coming from a classical guitar, (I think all of those have a radius of ∞, so that is absolutely flat. the 16"radius isn't flat in comparison) So I never had problem there. Weirdly enough, I do have a problem with their necks once you add in 7th string. An old carvin, which has a way thicker neck but a lower radius is way more comfortable to me.
Yeah I didn't know they were different inlays either until someone on Discord told me. The Jem is a little easier to figure out, certainly. Classical have wider spaces between the strings too, right? So maybe this is made for you :) But like you mentioned, I'd think a Jem is very very similar in all aspects.
I'm thinking of gettiing this or Surh Modern. Any thoughts? I already have a modded I a modded RG 2550e, but I am looking for a more straty 2nd guitar
Suhr modern all day, if you already have a prestige ibanez. Sounds better, and imo, has a more playable neck. Personal preference, but I've kept my suhrs and sold my ibanez.
Those riffs off The Leper Affinity, god bless.
\m/
I KNEW I heard The Drapery Falls in there
Opeth is the best
Mosted detailed review.
4:20 dude..I know exactly what you mean and that’s what I was going to say. I’ve never been a fan of those thin necks, I’ve owned two s series Ibanez with the wizard necks for while, and I recently sold both of them because I could never get used to them. I know it’s ideal for a lot of people, and I understand why it could be ‘faster’, but I’ve always felt more comfortable with a chunkier neck, even for really fast long term playing. THAT is a beautiful guitar though.
I think you need steve vai spider hands or something haha. My hand is aching after 10 minutes...especially on chords.
I wonder if it really is, or if that is some weird marketing thing, or something that keeps being repeated. I wonder if just the finish isn't enough to make it feel faster.
I really want this exact model of J Custom in Rhodonite Pink. The price is above my (personally imposed) single guitar price limit though. Looks like I'll be waiting for a mildly pre-owned example. Super Wizard HP neck FTW!! ;-)
Yeah I camped reverb a while and got this one for a steal. Just keep watching and one will show up eventually :)
15:11 That's called the Ibanez Zero Point System. It's purpose is to ensure the floating trem always returns to the same zero point after you whammy to help with your tuning stability. I used to have one in an Ibanez RG350DXZ. My personal opinion is that it isn't really necessary; the usual 2 spring setup in the back is plenty stable. You can easily remove the stop bar by loosening the strings and then two screws.
Very cool. It's a neat but potentially over engineered system, but either way, I'd prefer a 510 or Contour lol. Or screw it, just give me a hardtail!
@@TheGuitarPit The contour is definitely my favorite floating trem, too. I definitely respect being happiest with a hardtail but have been really pleasantly surprised with how much stability you get out of a contour and a good set of locking tuners.
Like you said, the Ibanez stuff is ultimately over-engineered but that's also part of the fun of it. There are tons of little things about them that are neat - For example, my RG's edge tremolo variant had the saddles screws offset from the strings so you could make intonation adjustments without having the move the string out of the way.
@Ryan Barker I’ve had many Ibanez guitars throughout the years (since the original 90’s RG550) and the Edge Zero w/ZPS3 on my RG4570Z is a Fantastic tremolo. It really helps stabilize tuning with multi-string bends as well because the tremolo is held in place. I mainly play hardtails (Les Pauls and PRS) and always disliked doing multi-string on Floyd Rose guitars. Once you have that ZPS3 balanced right, it does it’s job very well. I don’t think it’s over engineered once you understand it’s purpose and advantages 🙂
Cool guitar! Each guitar has its place. I struggle sometimes playing these necks, but sometimes... for somethings? I can shine one them. Just depends. Not something I’d get a lot of use out of these days. Still, nice 🤘
Absolutely. I love everything about this thing. Wish the neck suited me better. Every other detail on this thing is just stunning.
I always play with my thumb in the middle of the neck (classical guitar style), never with my thumb on top or over. So a wide and thin neck is not problem at all, even with my smallish hands. Actually I usually prefer my 7 string Jackson because of it. Nice and wide but flat and thin.
If you are used to placing your thumb over the top, man I have no idea how you would play a 7 or 8 string guitar.
Same but my Thumb hurts when I start practicing 30mins or more
That inlay is nice to look at but I would be lost too. For whatever reason I've never been a fan of Ibanez guitars. Probably because I never played a really nice one and mostly just played cheaper ones starting out but they just never felt right to me. I also suffer with thin necks and Ibanez necks tend to be on the thinner side so that's another reason why they wouldn't work for me. Another great video!
Yeah this guitar is what happens when I shop with my eyes and not my hands. Love the looks, style, flashy stuff, everything. But yeah, give me a Delos with a thicker neck any day haha.
Great Video Chris! My guitarist brought over a Strandberg Metal 7 and a Blackat 7 string headless last night and was my first time trying the fanned frets in general. *How does the strandberg metal 6 compare to the Aristides 060?* I know they’re two very different guitars in a lot of respects, but I’m on the fence between the two. Did you feel a difference in ease of playability on one more than the other? The Strandberg was stupid comfortable and played itself practically it seems, and price point on reverb at $1,780 seems like a lot of guitar for the price... The Aristides Raw multiscale also appeals to me even though it’s a bit more in price... Do you think the Aristides (aesthetics aside) has more of an edge on the strandberg metal?
Thanks man. Those are both great options. I'd say the 060 feels more traditional, and feels a little more "premium." The Strandberg is awesome, but does feel a tad like a toy. That said, the 060 is TWICE as heavy. The Strandberg's weird and body shape is really appealing. I found myself occasionally getting bored of the weird neck shape, if I was in the mood to just strum some regular chords with my thumb over the top of the neck. The 060's neck is fairly flat, so you have to be into that sort of thing to enjoy playing one. I bought my last Strandberg Metal for $1300+shipping on Reverb, so I'd recommend going that route based on price alone. There is a pearl white one with a little ding for $1500 right now..maybe you can get them to budge on the price a little due to the ding. reverb.com/item/29566544-strandberg-boden-metal-6-pearl-white
The Guitar Pit ok I see. I do enjoy thinner necks but not necessarily Ibanez Wizard flat. I currently own a EBMM JPXI 7 and I absolutely love the 20 inch radius and it being pretty flat but the gloss neck kills it for me. I also own a Jackson USA Juggernaut HT7 which I absolutely love but the neck profile is a bit too meaty and round on the shoulders to comfortably shred on the lower register especially. The Aristides I suppose is great but so are a lot of other guitars at their price point lol. The endless search continues.
I really appreciate the insight! The strandberg was really comfortable but that’s an interesting point you make about the neck and being kind of bored with it. First impressions and honeymoon phases can be deceptive so I’ll spend a little bit more time with my guitarist’s strandberg before buying. I’ll check out the guy offering and see if he’ll budge though. Thanks for the content! Have no doubt your channel will continue to grow!
Hey I too got my first JC a few weeks back! Mine is a used '96-97 model though lol the neck feels quite chunky so perhaps an older one would suit you well? Ash-bodied RG1308 with Edge Lo Pro but without vine inlays. Your top is more beautiful of course
Ah very cool! Their AZ necks are a lot more to my preference. I'd love to see an AZ with the full J Custom treatment -- crazy inlay, bound neck, etc, but keep the AZ neck shape and pickup combinations.
@@TheGuitarPit I'm sure they're coming, already have seen them release exclusive variants like gold leaf finish on a 22-fretter & natural brown top ala Tom Quayle's on 24-fret, albeit both for crazy money and only sold in Japan :sigh:
RGs are an "occasional" guitar; for when I'm feeling fusion-y or am back in 80s/VH-land. And nothing else I've played does the "bendy single-note wail" quite like RGs do in the bridge pickup while overdriven. The super-thin 2nd & 4th-position coil sound is useful in recording: Back off the vol knob and it sounds like whispy air and not much more - nice for arrangements that call for a totally clean electric guitar swimming in lots of post-fx.
Also a great ensemble player's touring axe due to tuning/neck stability - the bigger the band, the less you care that it's not really a proper Strat timbre. Of the ~dozen guitars I've had, the edge tremolo is the most stable, even after a cross-country shipping.
Yeah, all good points, it certainly has it's place. And agreed, I was seriously impressed with the trem on this thing. Held up great, was easy to work with, and didn't make me pull my hair out (as floyds can tend to do). Really neat system!
Can you tell me what guitar is that black on hanging on the wall behind you? Thanks
Closest black one is this one: ua-cam.com/video/3AlH8xRrhKI/v-deo.html
The other sort of black one is a Japanese Yamaha Revstar.
Great looking guitar!
One of the coolest! But man...that neck. Lol. Did your ibby you had for a minute have the worlds thinnest neck too?
@@TheGuitarPit Yeah it had the Nitro Wizard neck. Flat, thin, and wide - 5 pc panga panga and walnut. It was too flat for me going back and forth between Les Pauls and Friedmans. RG61AL.
Nice vid, Chris. I'm curious what camera/lens you're using? The quality is fantastic.
Thanks man. I use a Lumix GH5 and a leica 12-60 lens. The b-roll in this is way overexposed but I'll survive haha.
@@TheGuitarPit Thanks!
idk about you but i like the mechanic sound that the switch makes, oh and the little brass block is part of the zero point mechanism in short it makes the bridge not moving when you do bends so the bridge doesnt pull up when you do for example a unison bend(so the note that isnt bending doesnt go flat)
That makes total sense on the bridge! Clever!
@@TheGuitarPit hope that's a clear explanation, English is not my main language haha
i want this so bad
wow, nice guitar !!
Thanks Terry! Yeah, crazy detail and fanciness going on with this thing. Just wish I liked the neck more. Its next owner will do it more justice :)
Any idea where you can buy just the fret board
I doubt they'll sell just the board. You'd probably have to get a small custom builder to make one for you.
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You had me at J custom.
Killer, right?!
Ibanez are great guitars.. if you shred, you gotta have one.
what song did you play in the beginning
A totally flubbed version of this: ua-cam.com/video/OLB7JYl34y4/v-deo.html
How much does it weigh? I have a bad back....
About 3,9kg
Can somebody tell me the name of the song in the intro?
ua-cam.com/video/V3JQyV4dUKM/v-deo.html
Hey a fellow texan and yes the humidity messes with floyd guitars
Indeed! Yeah the weather lately has been making me want Vigier, Aristides, and Parkers haha.
Ok. Here's the deal with that trem. You can adjust it so it will stay in tune when you do double stop bends and when adjusted correctly it will stay in tune when you break a string. You sacrifice a looser feel but you still have a full floating tremolo and a stable platfom. You don't get these features with a standard Edge or Floyd Rose type trem. The thing I don't like about this system is that it won't flutter like a nice regular edge tremolo. But this feature is removable so it will futter and function like the old school edge trem. I do think most ibanez edge trems are superior to the Floyd Rose tremolo. Ibanez is famous for new innovations like this tremolo systen which is great but this system was designed by the same engineer that designed the Iron Cobra bass drum pedals for Tama drums. Also notice the noiseless tremolo springs. You don't find features like this from ANY other guitar companies,
Bravo Ibanez.
Btw. You should research the guitars you review and apparently purches before making and uploading a video reviewing the guitar. It's misleading to novice guitarists but big time kudos for playing some Opeth riffs.
Noiseless tremolo springs you say? I've been hoping somebody mentions this phenomenon, I might have get this thing.. I don't like guitars with springs they tend to have their own reverb thing going on.. my buddies S series did it.. I saw one guy in a video duct tape the springs to stop the noise that was the first time I knew I wasn't crazy. I'm going to rabbit hole "noise tremolo strings"
Great review Chris. I'd have the same problem locating where I am on the neck. Cheers
Thanks buddy. I tried to make this thing work cause I love the idea of it, but I just can't haha.
Man i wish ibanez had slightly more narrow necks, i just cant stand the fact that it feels like the strings are a mile apart, i have the same issue with my Mayones while my Suhr feels perfect and easy to play.
Any difference vs the Prestige line? Other than the price. lol
You get a lot more neck here. Inlays, flamed wood binding, flawless fret finishing. The body is similar, although you get different wood. Otherwise, they are pretty similar. This one sounded better than my last prestige RG with similar pickups.
Lol “too bad, I can’t. Jokes on them.”
Goodmornin brother, have a good one.
I got at least....uh...some of the notes right haha.
@@TheGuitarPit what song is it
@@naegleriafowleri2230 ua-cam.com/video/OLB7JYl34y4/v-deo.html
What’s that intro song? Sounds great
Erotomania- Dream theater
Petrucci never used a dimarzio tone zone, in his old ibanez sig he used the Steve's special (but yes the the air norton he did use as well)
And the extra bars inside the ZPS trem are there to stabilize the tuning, I have 2 prestiges white that trem but prefer the original Edge trem tho.
Awesome vid as always! was looking forward to the review since the j custom was hanging in the backgound of your vids for weeks haha
Ahhh Steve's Special. Very cool. I did see a couple of comments about people preferring the older bridge. Higher quality metal I guess? I have a lopro7 on my universe and the thing is bullet proof. But this new one seems decent too. And glad you enjoyed, thanks! :)
The inlay is the beautiful part of the guitar. The guitar body itself is actually very plain/basic look wise. Wish they wouldn't have been more creative with that.
@@betweenthe8 The inlay is what EVERYONE likes about it; it definitely in isn't the body. This guitar is about $1000 too much. They should have done more with the body. I rather get Steve Vai's Ibanez Pia for that price. At least it comes with gold hardware and unique limited release colors. Plus it has scalloped frets.
With the price point of a J custom they should put Stainless steel frets on in. I played a J custom once and the build quality is immaculate.
I wish so too, but man they are clean. Flawless guitars.
Completely agree. My 655 fret has already worn even from not so frequent play. I just use it at home maybe 1-2 hours a day once every 3 days because of work.
Yes. At this price point stainless steel frets should be a given. Love this guitar but nickel frets are a deal breaker. ☹️
I take back what I said about the nickel frets being a deal breaker. I want this guitar! 😍
wow.
wow.
wow.
Beautiful! I'll just need to borrow a set of extra long fingers, please.
I love Ibanez, and the few J Customs I've played are flawless, but I wish the j customs and Prestiges had more interesting colors. The axions have a sick multi-purple burst with burned looking pickups, premiums have some really interesting patterns, while Prestiges and J Customs are mostly just solid colors (usually blue or black) with some wood grain or other texture. I feel like the cheapest models have the coolest looks, while the top end are kinda boring. AZs too, the made in Indonesia have creative paint while the made in Japan ones are just stuff like boomer tobacco burst.
LOL Boomer burst. Yeah, the boomers have the buying power lol. I think that's not the whole story though. Now that lower end import guitars have all the flashy features like crazy paint, burl tops, abalone inlays...the works...the way high end guitars differentiate themselves is by being more subdued. That's probably a big reason for the relic fad as well. Different, premium, but not the typical stuff you see on $600 Korean/Indo guitars.
@@TheGuitarPit True, it does differentiate it, and I guess that's who has bigger pockets. I get that manufacturers want to show off wood grain on the high end, while at low end they can hide imperfections with crazy tops, but I'd still like something with the personality of the premium/axion line but the polish and feel of the Prestige/j custom. Thanks for your reply!
I think Lisa-x plays this guitar
Moment Shine - Dave Weiner
Small fingers do have problems to play with this extra wide neck
Lisa-x has been playing this since she was 8 lol
Opeth on an Ibanez, nice
Poorly, but I tried! \m/
Cleans were the best part
I probably should have set up a Mesa tone rather than a Marshal/Friedman thing for the high gain stuff. Oh well :P
Thinnest neck I ever played was a Peavey Tracer
Haven't tried one of those. Similar to the Wizard?
@@TheGuitarPit Not sure but it's like a child's size !!
Big E
They don't use locking tuners because you have a locking nut, it doesn't need locking tuners and really shouldn't have them.
Locking tuners ate more for a clean look, little to no string winding over the post. They say it helps for tuning stability but it just locks the string for the winding. Lol
The only disappointing thing about these guitars is the bridge. The grade of metal isn't as high quality as the Edge/LoPro and they're just not as solid overall, the ZPS thing is just a gimmick I think. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
That's a shame to hear. I found it very stable. That said, I didn't use it all that much because I rarely use the whammy bar.
@@TheGuitarPit The fine tuners used to wear out/crack the saddles on the early Edge Zeros, for example. The ZPS stopping bar in the back was also not fit properly in the plastic saddle in the back too on the old ones, making it impossible to get the knife edges level with the studs. They may have remedied some of these things by now, this they must be on the 3rd iteration of the Edge Zero by now. But after owning a guitar with one myself, I'll never cop one again, I'm glad they've brought back the Edge/LoPros!
I had a sea foam JEM. Wanted to love it, but could not groove without the neck. I love Jackson and Charvel necks, but the JEM was too flat for me. Beautiful guitar...just not my jam.
Yeah, same. Love it but I just can't swing it.
3 grand no locking tuners. Nope, not me. Plus that neck is a no go. Thanks bro.
To be fair it doesn't really need the tuners with the floyd. But man, the neck kills me. You either love it or you can't. I can't. Otherwise this guitar is nearly a 10/10...but I can't play it lol.
Made in Japan.
SEEMS LIKE YOUR MORE OF A GUITAR COLLECTOR THAN A GUITAR PLAYER ... NICE GUITARS
Moving away from thinner necks. I called it! They're a trend. Can play just as fast on a round neck. Better for your hands too.
Ha, but Ibanez has been making thin necks for like 40 years :P
1st like..
So please send me one of your guitar 😊
Sory jokes 😂
Ha, I'll send ya one if you click that reverb link and buy it :)
The tone is so lacking considering the price.
It's got that ibanez tone for sure, which isn't my go-to these days but there is a time and place for it. The craftsmanship was really spotless and incredible.
@@TheGuitarPit Its like the gummy de milo
J.custom designs sucks especially inlays and colours 👎
Too many subjective opinions, lets dress him down for his attire? The sound of a pot? I have this Guitar, and would produce a less opinioned video.
Kiesel 1000$ guitars have much much better electronics
I'm interested in normal music and absolute NOT metal-trash lkind of crap.
So decent complicated blues_rock etc.... This makes it possible to compare brands. And answers the question wich model is the most versatile?