American Wife Speaks Cantonese Better Than Chinese Husband 美國出生華裔
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- Steve is an American Born Chinese who grew up speaking Cantonese. Steve has been teaching Cantonese to his American Wife Jordan since they got married. Many people say that Jordan speaks Cantonese better than Steve. 美國出生華裔
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Lol I am Cantonese and let me tell you my thoughts.
The Asian guy (sorry if that was a bit offensive, I haven't watched any other video xx) he pronounces all the words like we do here in Hong Kong, all the sounds are correct and everything, it sounds very authentic.
The girl (I think it's jordan?) she makes the sounds a bit too sharp, no one around here speaks like that; but you can still understand it.. she speaks in more of a mandarin tone than Cantonese, she has a very nice voice though.
Please note that this was not made to offend anyone in the comments or in the video; these are just my thoughts and opinions as a Cantonese person.
Thank you for the feedback. Glad to know that people from Hong Kong can understand me :-)
-Steve
Yea, his cantonese is so much better. Her cantonese sounds like mainland chinese speaking cantonese.
SweetVanillaSpiceMe ikr, I thinks Steve speaks it more fluently and the girl will do better in pronouncing mandarin
Adeline A nah theyre both good. as long as youre understood. its nice that she has her own style ! and mandarin sounds smooth so her cantonese has a smoothness to it. actually sounds like how tereaa tang sings lol
Adeline A theres no real standard way. even in hk u have more working class cantonese and more polite sounding etc.. she has a nice polite sounding voice almost like she is singing it
The lady has a sweet soul. Kudos on learning Cantonese
She's right. He has better vocab and is more confident. He is also easier to understand in a full sentence BUT she is better at pronouncing single words. She is definitely more linguistically gifted. Hats off to her language skills to be able to pick up and speak an extremely difficult language like Cantonese.
Some of her Cantonese sounds like she has a Vietnamese accent. Some of the tones were off but so cool to that she learns a different language. Love how both their personalities feel very down to earth and genuine. All the best.
Thank you for the feedback and for watching!
Anyone that tries to learn Cantonese has my respect. I started speaking both Cantonese and American English at around 3 years of age so although my English vocabulary is much larger, I do not have an accent in either language. People from Hong Kong think I'm from Hong Kong although I've visited HK once in my life. Most Americans who talk to me on the phone think I was born in the US.
I also learned Mandarin as an older child and later in college. My Mandarin definitely has an American accent, per my parents who speak Cantonese and Mandarin fluently. Cantonese has 13 tones and sounds that are not used in English. Hong Kong-style Cantonese has a lot of words that are spoken/ not written formally and also lots of slang. So Cantonese is generally harder than Mandarin for English speakers. The exception are people who grew up in HK from a young age: I've met the rare non-Chinese adult who speaks fluent Cantonese.
(I've also learned bits of Russian, Spanish, French, and German - not fluently and definitely with an American English accent. Cantonese also has very different sounds from those languages. Moral of the story: get your kids starting languages early. Science shows kids' ability to process and replicate sounds via their brain declines with age.)
I love when westerners speak Chinese so well. I'm learning but it takes patient and I don't have that but I'm still at it.
Keep going! You got this!
I think it sounds great !! Good job guys
Steve, don't put yourself down. You're fine I understand you completely and you're the better speaker. Hands Up! 🙋🙋♂
Don't worry about the comments, you are both excellent as long as you speak Cantonese and get your messages across .
I'm impressed, especially when you guys teach your son simple Cantonese vocabularies.
Yes, ppl understand you is more important than tone . Keep it up.
Keep it up !
love to watch you two talking
Both of you two are fabulous. Keep up the good work. I was born in HK then moved to US at age 10. My Cantonese vocabulary is limited but the tones and inflections I think I have nailed down pretty good which is opposite of the two of you. I can really identify with you guys. You guy's Cantonese is not perfect but definitely very good, I have no trouble understanding it. Love you guys, keep making videos, and congrat on the baby.
You guys are so cute. Good job speaking Chinese to the both of you.
Thank you so much!
Great and funny video guys, i love how you team up!
Thanks!
you guys are a cute couple....as a Mandarin speaker, I've always found Cantonese to be pretty tough to learn (12 tones as opposed to 4), so I applaud you two for sharing your language journey. I'm trying to learn some Vietnamese now and that's also a tough language to learn....
Am I the first to comment that she is so beautiful!? 💗 He is one very lucky guy to find such a beautiful woman who can even learn the language he speaks, just for him. I hope he knows how easy she's making his life for him. Would love to meet a pretty soul as her. ♡
Thank you!
I miss seeing your videos... hope you make some new videos soon ❤
I m impressed!
You guys are so cute ! Subscribed
She is “foreigner who speaks Cantonese” goals!!!
I find Steve´s Cantonese better. Keep going! ^^°^^
You guys so cute together.
Cantonese is such a beautiful language, sounds like singing😘😘😘
Don’t worry too much about the pronunciation; as long as people understand what you’re saying, no real Cantonese people will laugh at you☀️ I give you 100 likes 👍👍👍……
No offence at all, but I think Steve is still better. He sounds fluent and has a native accent. Her tone is like still a bit off and just based on her speaking skills you can still tell she's a foreigner because she hasn't nailed the tone yet. It's very up, down like when foreigners learn the language but still her cantonese is really impressive. So props to her! She's doing very well for someone who learned the language rather than being brought up with it. It's very hard to nail down the tone in Chinese.
Native Cantonese speaker here (actually from the city of Guangzhou), and here's what I hear: She's better at forming the individual sounds, but he's more accurate with the pitch of each sound. Both of you can learn from each other. Keep up the good work. ;-)
It's probably the difference between speaking academically (Jordan) and regionally/idiosyncratically/colloquially (Steve). If you grow up speaking a language, you speak it the way your family and your community does. When you learn a new language, you speak it the way you're taught and/or the way it has been standardized academically.
Your wife's pronunciation is okay, but your pronunciation is more on point most of the time :)
Lexine Uy I agree
Lovely couple! I'm a Cantonese teacher and believe me, I enjoy listening to you speaking Cantonese:) look forward to watching your new videos!
What a great couple, encouraging, helpful, and most of all loving. With you both as parents, your baby will be awesome!
nice, this world need good people like you guys
Wow! That's a high compliment. Thank you!
I'm Cantonese and im impressed by your wife's knowledge and vocabulary however I find her pronunciations of words have an English twang to it. So it's sounds like she's speaking Cantonese with an accent (just like how a Chinese native speaker goth have a chinglish sound when they speak English.
In my opinion you have a better pronunciation and accent. I think it's quite difficult for an English speaking person to pronounce all the Cantonese tones as there are quite a few sounds you don't use in English as you mentioned in this vid.
My husband is Chinese and I speak Cantonese. In this video, the wife has a fairly good vocabulary but if I were on the phone with her, I would know that she was a Wester woman who had learnes the language. She needs to tapper off her sentences to make a weebit softer tone.
You guys are super adorable. It's literally an abundance of love in the background of the video! Jordan is really a very talented and please keep it up! I wish my wife can speak more cantonese to me too.
she has a slight mandarin accent when she speaks. Born in Hk, I totally pronounce the same way you do Steve!
Sorry for the late reply. We took a UA-cam break! Thanks for watching 😀
I speak canto fluently and I would have to disagree, albeit her cantonese is impressive, it doesn't sound right to me..the guy sounds much more natural
Oh please, when a westerner speaks as good and as fluent as she does there shouldn't be any room for criticism here.
@科幻动画Science fiction cartoon What? What are you talking about?
agreed
yeah I agree his wife teached him wrong... like in the 信 and the 鍾意 which is the Jung yee his was the original sound?- like he says it correctly originally
@@sandramalone3522 he said
“Fact is fact and if you disagree, you should be a Cantonese in your next life”
ummm sounds pretty aggressive 😅
But as a Hong konger, I would say the guy pronounces better actually.
The girl pronounced some of the words in an accent like Mandarin speakers 😂 but she is very good in Cantonese already.
Peace.
Great vid, guys.. such an interesting topic and discussed in a way to enlighten others on your well-considered thoughts on the subject
Jordan, your pronunciation of he word for "believe" or "faith" is right on! It really is amazing that you are learning your inlaw's language. I love this video!
I grew up in Hong Kong and have absolutely fluency in canto and I think Steve speaks better than Jordan. I mean, you can hear he has a western accent but the words are generally right, like vegetables is definitely with a ch. Jordan's accent is stronger.
1234321JR is there any region where Tsoi would be acceptable? Jordan and I have both actually heard it pronounced that way before.
hmm i guess in Guangdong where some speak it with a more Mandarin accent they likely pronounce it as tsoi
+Cantonese Couple...yes in Tai Shen city located about 50 miles west of HK
+nigel lei . oops misspelled TaiShan city
Stumbled upon this in UA-cam recommendations. It's so cool your wife studied/studies Cantonese as a language! I think it's important to recognize, as others have said, that there are so many ways of pronouncing languages due to territorial dialects. As you mentioned in the video, what's most important is that those around you can understand you. I may not have the most sophisticated vocabulary but I am extremely grateful that I can communicate with my loved ones enough to get the message across. You both have differences in tones but that's understandable considering your differing backgrounds. Just subscribed and can't wait to see more!
congradulations on the new baby. I really hope the best for him or her.
I disagree. She doesn't have a better pronunciation than him. The word "vegetable", she pronounced it incorrectly. It all depends where or what regions of the people come from, real Cantonese is from Canton, the city. Even the Hong Kong people have their own accent, slightly different than people from Canton. I grew up in Canton and he definitely speaks better. My husband is an American and he picked up large amount of Cantonese from my mom.
Julie Baker I agree, people from Hong Kong speak Cantonese differently. According to my father at home we speak proper Cantonese. He has always said that people in Hong Kong speak a lazier form of Cantonese pronunciation . I found this to be true when I worked in a city with mostly Cantonese people. It was even more difficult understand with the way they pronounced certain words and slang.
S. Young Guangzhou and Canton both are correct ~
S. Young - It was called Canton before you were born. That is why we call the language we speak "Cantonese". The Chinese government later changed to Guangzhou to go with the Chinese naming convention. Please look up the history of Canton. Canton is also a city in Ohio, of course.
Julie Baker please have a look at this, if you can read Chinese.
"Canton的起源：粤语广东不准确的音译
至于哪国人把广州拼为Canton，有多种说法，其中有两种较为有代表性。专门研究中外贸易史和澳门史的广东省社会科学院赵立人研究员说，最早到广州的外国人是16世纪的葡萄牙人。现在关于Canton一词可见的最早出处是由瑞典人著的《早期澳门史》，主要记述的是澳门以及葡萄牙人在中国的情况，其中提到了Canton一词。至于葡萄牙人最早在什么时候把广州称之为Canton，现在已无从考证。之后，英国人有关广州的著述中也使用 Canton这个词。不过广州市地名办公室的一位负责人则认为，“Canton”是广州一词的“威妥玛式”的旧拼法，“威妥玛”是一个1841年至 1883年间英国驻华外交官的名字，他设计了一套罗马字母拼音方案给汉字注音，“Canton”正是这种拼法的产物。专家们一致认为Canton是对广东粤语不准确的音译。"
Cantonese这一用法固然存在了很久，但如果你真正是使用广州话作为母语的话，大多是不会觉得这个单词有多恰当，也会引起混淆。
Interesting Video = which shows a lot more about you as a couple than just your language abilities.
Best wishes for your baby
I find the both of you amusing. He looks to you for validation of his pronunciation.
Very entertaining.
actually the girl doesnt really have a better pronunciation, maybe its because the fact that she is not chinese and can speak to this level of fluency makes many people believe that she has better pronunciation.
Superpower Dragon yup your righf
I showed two of our videos in our ESL class this week, and I built two lessons around two of our videos! The students were absolutely fascinated by you 2.
Omg.... did she learn it herself? Very impressive!!!!!!! I am teaching my gf Cantonese too 😂
I am impressed with her cantonese.
Thank you so much!
Ei Forc its shit why would you be impressed?
S. Young, Well yeah, that's a valid reason. Because English-speakers don't use tones, so many westerners struggle with learning the tones of Chinese. And Cantonese has even more tones than Mandarin does. I'm also very impressed with her Cantonese; it's probably better than mine, since I've lost most of it from replying to my parents in English.
Me too! Very very much impressed with her Cantonese!!! It is really better than her husbands's;) Sorry man...but really 😁
Ei Forc cant agree more
Omg she's soooo good!! Amazing! I even learned something new from you! I love it!
You are guys are a hoot!!! Love it!
I dont know what the problem is..but the dude in my opinion is better pronunciation vise is better, all his pronunciation was right, she is just teaching him wrongly...
THIS THOUGH! I watched the whole thing and was so confused. I speak Cantonese and live in Hongkong and I definitely think his Cantonese is WAY better, pronunciation-wise!
I'm Cantonese, my parents are from Hong Kong, and I agree. His pronunciation is better.
S. Young no, im not from GuangZhou, im from Malaysia, and they are all types of chinese in malaysia like cantonese, hokien etc
lol nah some of his pronunciation wasn't correct. he said 你痛唔痛餓 when he tried to say 你肚唔肚餓. that's why he said he's 竹昇仔。
oh dude, watch the whole video before you say any bullshit, please. HE called HIMSELF 竹昇仔, I don't give a damn about who he is and his family background, none of my business, yet I am not the one to call him 竹昇仔. so be my guest to tell him that he's being "harsh" to himself and ask him what he's doing. BTW, 竹昇仔is not even a negative term.
Beautiful couple!
Slow victory clap for you girl!!! You guys are great!
You guys are such a beautiful couple together. I wish you guys nothing but the very best for the rest of your lives.
Aric Mackenthun 😀
lmao the wife's cantonese is not that good. I can still understand her but its not as good as the comments at the beginning of the video made it out to be. In fact, she's teaching him the wrong pronunciation when she corrects him lol
Totally agree... shame !!
Wait what??? Being a Cantonese, I think that the Chinese guy's pronunciation is better. Jordan has an accent to it. Steven's pronunciation is much more natural. Are those comments people not from non-Cantonese?
sorry for my bad English.
She is teaching him wrongly...
oh no
Sprinkleholic please stop with your English it’s terrible
Sprinkleholic, your English is just fine.
This is awesome, really happy to see more people making videos about Cantonese! I stopped mine a while ago, but am inspired to make more now!
Olly Richards What an honor! We love your videos Olly 😀
Jung Yee is actually the more accurate pronunciation in hong kong. (this is coming from a native hk speaker)
Suen or shuen would be the closest to the word.
Leo Lee 讲英文的人发J的发音比讲中文的人重。粤语的人发J音时喉咙是不震动的，J与ung撞击后喉咙才开始震动。讲英文的人从J开始未撞击ung时就震动喉咙。同样中文的B对于讲英文的人来说只是一个夸张的P，所以他们以前把北京释成Peiking，而不是Beijing。
The girl pronounced Jong Yi with too much "a" sound.
Part of the problem for Chinese people who didn't grow up in HK is that we grew up with bad habits, and nobody ever corrected us. And we don't really know how badly we sound because we don't hear our own accents (applies even to our English regional accents). I have the same problem as Steve... My parents understand me, so they wouldn't bother correcting me.
EXACTLY! I only spoke Cantonese with a few people growing up. They always understood me and never correct my tones. After 28 years, it's hard to shake that off.
-Steve
Cantonese Couple The most noticeable part of Steve (and my) accent is the inadvertent "r" in certain words. We might say "seurng" instead of "seung" for "up". (my Romanization is probably wrong, but i hope you get what i'm saying ). I don't hear this in Jordan's pronunciation, probably because she is learning anew so this might be what others are referring to when they say she pronounces better. I admire both your efforts!
Umm.... Even HK people born in America or Canada have really good
chinese cause they usually only hang around with other HK people. BBC can be different thou as there weren't a lot of chinese people in
Britain and racism was pretty high so even if you were chinese you
wouldn't want to admit it and blend in with the british.
S. Young fair point, will keep in mind for future.
Laziness?
You guys are great! I am Cantonese originally from Hong Kong. You inspire me to concentrate on my pronunciation and annunciation when speak both English and Cantonese. Thank you!
My Cantonese is much like Steve's. I grew up speaking Cantonese with my poh-poh because she helped raised me, but the rest of my family spoke English to me because I'm a mix of Chinese and Hispanic who grew up in California. xD I don't have any Cantonese speaking friends, so I feel like I've lost a lot of my ability to speak even though I still understand it. That's great that you and Jordan are teaching your son as well. It can be hard to keep different languages in families growing up in America.
We really wish there were public schools that teach Cantonese. Pretty much all of them teach Mandarin.
Lily Castle poh poh means grandma
I know. I like saying poh-poh to people who understand it to differentiate which grandma speaks Cantonese because my other grandma I just call grandma and she speaks English and Spanish. :)
I know the struggle. Even colleges don't really offer Cantonese, so when I became more interested in becoming more fluent as an adult, I had no where to turn to but the internet.
Lily Castle 你媽閪
the Chinese guy is better😂
I'm worse. Well, I don't speak Cantonese at all, so that's my excuse.
Anyway, how are you doing? Everything good? Oh right, I don't know you.
You both are amazing!
HOLY MOLY! I dont know how you popped in my suggestions feed but WOW! You guys are amazing! I'm so plastic, I don't know if theres hope but just maybe there is to learn this dying language! I feel so what ashamed but I'm blown away by you both!
I don't understand, the husband pronounces it much better than the wife. No offense to anybody.
I think that Steve's pronunciation is better, I'm Cantonese and tbh most of the time I couldn't understand what Jordan was saying >_
Yeah, his pronounciation is better, but I can understand what Jordan is speaking but she has a strong accent, but the guy has a little accent too , really little ^^ I am cantonese but i was not born there ^^ So I could be wrong
I have no problem understanding you guys, I will tell my wife ( will be) to learn some Cantonese here.ty
my brother just sent me a link to your first video. this is wonderful. don't let the negative comments keep you guys down. my wife (also caucasian) and i have been working with our kids on their cantonese and when i showed our kids your videos, my daughter (8 yrs old) just laughed and said now mom needs to learn Chinese better.
we too live in the detroit metro area and are glad to see the two of you sharing your lives on here and answering many questions we've received ourselves in the past about our own mixed cultural relationship. maybe we should start a support group. lol. keep the entertain vids coming. we'll be watching.
Vinh Chu Haha thanks for watching! Are there any adult Cantonese classes in the Detroit area?
Actually ... I am native Cantonese speaker and very fluent in English ... Husband is much better than wife ........ but the husband's Cantonese can only be thought as very fluent but with very heavy accent that everyone knows he would not be native speaker ...
i think your baby will speak very fluent Cantonese someday as well ^ ^
"ga yau ar" Steve and Jordan (> v
Only if you keep teaching us :-)
sure! im trying to upgrade the content in our channel asap >v
Cantonese Couple you should have your children enrolled in Chinese school or preschool maybe kindergarten.
文子MtzCherry
i just love you guys attitude . Thanks you .
There's so much beauty when 2 cultures become one ❤️
I'm a Hongkong/Guangzhou cantonese native speaker. Her cantonese is NOT correct neither local AT ALL, no offence.
She speaks with very apparent foreign accents. So apparent that I can tell by the first sentence she spoke that she doesn't speak cantonese very well. The pronunciation intonation all sound very weird and very foreign. She's comparatively good at this for a westerner, but far from native.
The guy sounds like he's somewhat rusty with cantonese and no longer speaks this language as mother tongue, like he's an abc or sth. Some of the accents sound a little out of place, not perfect or 100% correct but generally close to native. The asian guy very obviously absolutely speaks better cantonese in every aspects.
A lot of Jordan's prounciation are pretty good compare to other non Cantonese speakers learning. But yes, she has an english accent and you can tell its a white person speaking. The husband's accent you can tell his parents speak with HK/Cantonese accent which is what he has but you are right, he's just rusty. I am impressed with Jordan's will to learn!
Couldn't agree more, you nail it…to the point.👏
Lul
The guys pronunciation is better lol
But her cantonese is kinda good wtf?
You were right the first time with "vegetable". Your wife is wrong on that one.
Bro, your wife's cantonese is good but yours is more natural. Cantonese is tough, I know English, Mandarin, the Hokkien dialent and Malay too but Cantonese is by far the hardest. I only speak it because that's thats the languange I grew up with.
Y'all are funny. Great couple! Enjoy life. Peace!
This was really cute! My first vid watching you guys. Keep it up!
I personally like the husband's way of speaking since that's how everyone around me speaks and I'm used to it.
OMG, you guys are adorable!
I frankly think that his Cantonese is fine because that's how I know everyone speaks it in Hong Kong. When I first heard her Cantonese I couldn't understand it until he spoke the phrases. My opinion tho.
I enjoyed this video a lot. Thanks for sharing. I'm impressed by both of your cantonese. In my opinion, accents only differentiate between people but sometimes also push people apart. As long we can communicate that's good enough! I think Jordan did a great job learning this tonal language as a adult, it really isn't easy.
Thank you both of you for your efforts, the video was hilarious (meaning the way you two interact) ... and it doesn't really matter to me who is speaking it better, your child will grow up bilingual if both of you keep up using Cantonese with him ...
Thank you !
I mean....both of you guys have an accented cantonese so....
She sounds like she’s from Chicago and it shows up a little when speaking either language.
I have just finished watching this video, honestly out of the both of you guys, Steve you speak better cantonese, not perfect but your cantonese tones are better than Jordan's, you just seem to lack confidence and then when you question if your tone is correct or not you follow Jordan's incorrect tones and your cantonese tones sound worse than before,
Totally agree... !!!
You guys are a cute couple, and that's so great that you can help eachother with your respective issues with pronunciation, grammar, (or whatever) etc! Nice :)
I dig it she’s a wholesome woman. Great wife.
In all honesty I think Steve's Cantonese is more fluid and sounds more native than Jordan. The fluidity of the way Jordan speaks is a little bit more rushed. On some of the words should sit in the mouth a little bit longer before moving on to the next word.
I got lazier and lazier with my pronunciation when my family moved to the US from HK. But I understand you both. I think Jordan sounds a bit more like Mandarin because it's sharper.
Her pronunciation is wayyyy too harsh. I say choi not tsoi like wtf.
His pronunciation is correct. He speaks Cantonese properly, I get that she learnt Cantonese but her Cantonese is awful
You don't need to have a certain accent to be good at a language.
Depends on what you mean by being good at a language, I guess. If you couldn't speak French with a French accent, for example, you couldn't really say that you were good at speaking French.
Ok I've got it... your wife's voice is just beautiful all together., some people you can listen to all day . You can tell it is apart of your Culture your very authentic! ♥️ your both awesome!
her chinese is very good. first time watching your vid. good stuff
I disagree, your pronunciation is better than hers. I can tell she tried hard to learn but still doesn't sound authentic as you do. Those people who said her cantonese is better than you must be deaf. BTW it is awkward when she tried to correct your pronunciation, but the truth is her pronunciation is not even right!!!! However you can never argue with your wife :/
Happy New Year! 新年快樂
Happy New Year!
Lovely couple! God bless your family! 👏👍😊
Sorry for the late reply. We took a break from UA-cam so we weren't responding to comments. Thank you for watching and your kind comment!
I love this! As an ABC whose greatest achievement is in butchering Cantonese pronunciation, you guys give me hope that I can learn and improve. I guess I need to start watching more youtube tutorials because other than my family, I have nobody to speak Cantonese with!
Your eyes say that you love each other. That's great and good.
Omg ....your amazīng Cantonese speaking wife ..... congrats to you both and a God blessed unique union.
I am glad you are both happy
Jordan, two thumbs up for you! Your Cantonese pronunciation is better than my Mandarin speaking husband!
You are such an adorable couple!
You are awesome in speaking, you two are too cute!
You two are great! I love the fact that Mrs. speaks Cantonese more accurately than Mr! You're interesting to listen to. Hope baby Seon has a happy and interesting life with you both. Best Wishes from the UK.
Yes, she is correct with the pronunciation of faith. So awesome. Where and how are you learning Cantonese from?
Oh I love you two!