Metrolinx confident new trains will be delivered on time
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2019
- With major delays on the delivery of TTC streetcars, Bombardier has a lot to prove. Shauna Hunt checks up on the progress of the Light Rail Vehicles slated for the massive Eglinton Crosstown project.
If it's made by Bombardier it will be late and malfunctioning
Go back to refit them all costing the tax payer millions
and the endless supply of excuses wil continue for the delay of this train! The first mistake was giving the contract to Bombardier!
I wish Hawker Siddeley made them...
Except if it's railroad equipment....
This will lead to the hiring of field technicians to repair them on site or refit them on site at least
When you deal with Bombardier, don't be confident about anything
Ottawa’s lrt is a year behind
Unless we're talking about Railroad cars. That's all they do right.
Keep the colors consistent with TTC branding, where did the tacky blue and yellow come from? Did Bombardier really build it or give TTC a hand-me-down from another transit authority?
Line 5 will be owned by Metrolinx. The TTC is only contracted to operate it.
Plus, if metro nx changes the colours and changes the presto set up, it's easier for them to change the fares on the public. They are already making the cross town sound more like the go train.
It took them this long to install new trains??
They under bid and under estimated the cost and time.
Companys do this all the time with government contracts cause when ur half way through it costs more to start again with someone else.
And they need to be made too, so yes it will take all we need is patience
Here in Kitchener the trains were 2 years late!
In Delhi Metro here in India, Bombardier Cars are ways better than the Japanese Cars made by Mitsubishi..
Good to know! Nice to hear a comparison.
I wish you all the best to the people who will ride this.
But I thought the Sheppard lrt was cancelled tho
In the future, the old subway trains and streetcars will be preserved in the train museum. The new Bombardier rail cars are energy efficient and people can walk between cars which we can’t do in the old subway trains.
The "bugs" were worked out with the TTC Outlook model order, so the Metrolinx Freedom order should work out be better.
JUST GET IT DONE FFS
Amen to that
I would have called it an articulated tram almost where I come from. Has a nice modern look to it.
If you are a betting man, take the OVER on how long it will take to be delivered.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS JOB FINISHED!!!!!!!!!
KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB T.T.C. AND METROLINX!!!
I'M GLAD TO SEE THE CHANGES!!!!!!!!!
Hey where's the ATO button? The underground section is automated is it not?
It should be ATC on the underground section
@@krypto_9872 Maybe it's driverless then at Laird an operator takes over
Should have let the japanese showed them how its done. They can probably do it faster and cheaper.
Research the customer and owner satisfaction of the Japanese models. Quality and reliability should count for something.
Nice streetcar just needs a more Red colour, thats the TTC vibe.
It’s exclusively for the Line 5 Eglinton LRT, it’s supposed to look distinct and different. So no one confuses it with an actual Streetcar
Oh thanks man
I just wanted a better way to get to the science centre ;-;
We got a LRT in Kitchener. Bombardier was 2 YEARS late delivering the trains!!!!
I'm a tram and I approve this video!!
I’m a Subway and I also approve this video
What if it was on the Streetcar Routes?
ONE GOOD THING MADE IN CANADA BY CANADIAN COMPANY.
Wrong. Mexico. Final assembly in Thunder Bay
Bombardier is Canadian, I went to a French elementary school in Toronto, we learned this in the third grade, but I get what you’re saying.
Bombardier did fine with the Ion. Ion uses the same vehicles. Im not worried.
But the train is so slow!!!!! Im hoping the vehicles will be much faster on the crosstown especially with a fully automated and underground portion of the line
@@mrrobot5963 Um of course it's going to be faster. 85km/h to be exact.
So if they're late they'll have to pay a fine? That would be great and all if their main source of revenue was government stimulus to keep them afloat
Will these new trains have led lighting?
Yes
Yeah but I prefer having LCD screens instead. Look at the design of the Valley Line's flexity freedom. Wish we had it here
@@mrrobot5963 The LCD screen system belongs to the VISION system ( vehicle information and integrated operations system ) witch TTC is right now using. But since these vehicles belong to Metrolink these vehicles cannot use the VISION system or I think
@@TheBrimleyTripper They could use something different but at this time it's unknown what announcement system they'll use. Probably the same as the streetcars
@@mrrobot5963 but think how expensive will the VISON system about $2000 for 2 screens and then that will mean $10000 just for the system per one LRV not to mention integrating it with other systems will cost more
So they admit the lrt is just a streetcar on a dedicated lane? Like the one on St Claire? I guess th eglinton streetcar will be underground half the length.
The Eglinton Line has stations instead of stops, it has level boarding platforms like the subway, it has fewer stops and higher speeds, the trains will couple together for huge capacity and it will operate on a consistent schedule like the subway.
They’ll probably extend the line a few years after.
It has been significantly delayed. I am from 2022, and the service will start at the end of 2023 as earliest.
That car is not similar to what TTC has. It's the exact same car that Kitchener/Waterloo has on its Ion system.
Every major project expect delays
*Well, it is june 2021 they have already said the same*
Due to be completed in 2021. Will actually be completed in 2026. Please be patient, Toronto.
"if there are delays" should have said "when there are delays"
Citytv acting like LRT’s are a new thing. lol toronto is truly in a bubble
Meanwhile in Japan..they are set to have bullet trains....
Here is something to think about, STOP AUTOMATICALLY GIVING CONTRACTS TO BOMBARDIER, outsouce production and receive higher quality products faster and cheaper
That would mean the end of kickbacks to politicians involved with Bombardier.
Ain't gonna happen.
Amos Burke Not to mention the end of those manufacturing jobs in Canada. Great if you want the next generation to stand in unemployment lines.
@@lotsoflaughs1175 So, what you're saying is essentially it is much better to have an incompetent Canadian company continue on its merry way along with the corrupt politicians affiliated with it RATHER than have the next generation lose out on a few jobs.
Sounds like a formula for success.
According to the Liberal Party of Canada.
Ottawa has light rail that can’t go in the snow, Canada really can’t get anything right these days. I wonder why?
It can operate in the snow, the news reports about this topic are innacurate as they only experienced problems in the snow during testing and during testing in the winter trains did not run as frequently as they will when they are in service and thus snow built up because the trains could not plough through it every 5 minutes.
@@robwillie226 Boy were you wrong!!
@@billyehh no he wasn't
These look like the trams in Melbourne
waterloo regoin has the same thing
These new models seemingly make it very difficult to observe your surroundings and view all passengers
that may be on board * * I would think passenger safety is an imporatant consideration when designing city transit -
cameras do not help prevention and awareness
What's up with LRTs and face-to-face seating, why not use the subway interior design
Thompson1246 not possible due to mechanical reason
@@officiallynrgxlr8tr It's not because of mechanical things. It's because the LRV belongs to Metrolink and because of that Metrolink can request some LRVs back and use them on other Metrolink projects such as the LRT line being planned to be build in Mississauga
@@TheBrimleyTripper no. you're not understanding what I said. he asked why the LRTs have face to face seating. that is because it is right above the wheel well, and face-to-face seating is the most space-efficient use of that small and cramped space. the other option would have been sideways-facing seats, which would only fit 2 compared to the 4 they currently have. while the LRTs are owned by metrolinx, they have nothing to do with the seat design. that is simply the most efficient way to use the space. the ion train in Waterloo region, for example, is the exact same model, built on the same assembly line in thunder bay, not owned by metrolinx, and they have the same seat design.
@@officiallynrgxlr8tr oh apologize I miss understood what the both of you said
Bombardier has thier own time zone. No wonder they’re always late
Right ! 30 Mins west of Thunder Bay, ON Central Time.
Why couldn’t they just make ttc?
That's if Bombardier will still be in business...
Well, good foreshadowing, because Bombardier was bought by Alstom in January 2021. Bombardier rail no longer exists! (Although, I do think that Alstom will continue to sell Bombardier’s Innovia line of automated people movers and monorails, as Bombardier is pretty well developed in that sector.
It's not 2.5 years, it's 5.5 years
Why do they have stop requests? At least one person needs to get off at a station.
They will stop at every station. ION also has them but they stop at every station
Uchenna Okorie then they’re basically useless.
@@ElliottDuster It's strange because the Valley Line vehicles in Edmonton don't have them
It's for the surface section but NLG it's still going to stop a all stops
Looks like a regular TTC street car.
just like the ones in waterloo
Worried about delivery turned out moot. Five years on, not a single train has carried any passengers on the Eglinton Crosstown. Verster should be fired.
2:37 AND VIVA
It’s running from Eglinton East (Kennedy) to West (Mount Dennis) that’s why they said TTC
Haha. This joke was funny
Why does it take so freaking long. This kind of stuff would be done in 2 to 3 years in Asia max
BombarDelayed
pretty sure you guys are more than 2 years delayed
Shouldve gone with Siemens
No,i don't want to expand on that.
He’s embarrassed...
NO Presto Machines on board?? yea that's DEFINITELY gonna be a problem! i really hope TTC buys over this new LRT system, because nobody likes having to do the same thing twice ! plus Presto still has A LOT of work to be done!
You tap on like the GO train or subway on the platform rather than inside the train which makes boarding faster.
And there's a better chance for fare evasion on the surface unless there is some Proof of Payment staff at the stops.
MetroLinx is the only one that thinks this!! Bombardier should have lost the contract with their mismanagement!
That's a tram to me
In Europe tram is a term used to refer to streetcars (run on the street with cars) and light rail which are separated from traffic. So you may call it a tram, but it operates more like a metro than a streetrunning tram
nice the train like chinese and japanewe ones
I don't have any confidence that Bombardier will complete the order on time for the Eglinton Crosstown. Fool me once ,shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.
Lol, I thought this is in the Philippines.
Can they not choose such a tacky bell sound?
The bell or gong sound is a historic TTC sound that has been around for decades and getting rid of it would be bad for the identity of Toronto
Higher level of automation? Ask Boeing how those computer systems fared. We need licensed and passionate professionals driving vehicles carrying large amounts of people!
They mean that the line will be automated in the underground portion
The Skytrain is automated and has run just fine for more than 35 years
I say let TTC use other manufacturers. It would most likely have cars delivered sooner than later & TTC will have the diversity it once had back when TTC still had the Gloucesters, Montreal M-1s & Hawker Siddelys. I'm surprised that streetcar has the Flyer D901a's unit number. They probably might take the GM Classic's unit number eventually
Lol no Sheppard east lrt
I hope not either. Even the feds have moved funding off that project.
I still prefer it😭😭😭
Alstom is better especially when it comes to speed and capacity. There are more efficient than the bombardier
Yeah but priority to the canadian manufacturer.
Alstom Citadis are really good. They are the reference.
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Alstom vehicles are just longer. Order longer vehicles from Bombardier and they will have the same capacity. They maximum speed what they need here is limited so the maximum technical speed won't be used.
Bombardier is a very flexible manufacturer, Alstom is not.
@Isaac Williams THEY DONT LIKE SNOW!!!
The Chinese must chuckle at this level of ineptitude.
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PHAHAHAHA BOMARDIER, HERE IN SWITZERLAND THE TRAINS from Bomardier ARE 8 YEARS LATE😂
Seriously? Why do we not hear about stuff like that?
😂
Choose Alstom next time and not Bombardier
Trust me they will.
@Isaac Williams Yep their max speed is 105km/h. Faster than our own subway trains
I kinda like it, and hey, maybe these will actually come out on time, NOT
Why are we making new vehicles for heavily outdated systems. I swear streetcars are almost a century old now...
Jacob Wilson it’s not a street car. Look everywhere else in North America. it’s all LRT
The King streetcar now carries 80,000 passengers a day. Thats nore than some subway systems
oof
About the title, no train in the video. This is a tram
It couldn't have been much of a hefty financial penalty. It was very hush hush and nobody reported on it. Another Failure for Toronto. We need subways not this glorified street car.
"Subways Subways Subways" Why do you think all these failures are happening?
@@mrrobot5963 cause they built 4-5 east/west street car lines that cant replace one subway.
@@thesisko4031 You mean the cancelled queen street subway
These things are awful. All the plastics creak and groan
Be cursed, and doomed forever !
SHAME !!! Bombardier, made in quebec, sub-standard, inefficiently, wasteful.
Unless the customer is Quebec
It's made in Ontario.. Kingston
@@manavjoshi9719 aND tHUNDER bAY
Bombardier is the worst choice you could have made..
Not quite so sure. Look at the screwups in Ottawa.
Bombardier is such a scummy company.