There is nothing morally, or legally, wrong with security personnel asking polite questions, of the public, in public. In fact, their ACT training says they should ask questions if they see something 'suspicious'.
@@scotttchviski6706 so a person with a camera is 'suspicious'? really, in this day and age? He should have asked why the building has lots of cameras filming him.
That is very interesting indeed. I work for myself now, but before when I worked for others I never once used the word 'my' or 'our'.when referring to the company or the building. Perhaps that was because I didn't want to belong? I didn't belong and that's why I got out. I am not suggesting that is what is going on here, but I have seen so many friends become institutionalized by stealth in this way... Sadly as soon as they are offered a company pension they rarely escape. Peace and best wishes.🌞
Speaking as the Vice President of the revolving door appreciation society I am completely taken aback with your comment about it being sad to take photos all day of revolving doors and will be bringing this up at our next bi monthly meeting. I would argue this subject with you but it would be like trying to get into one of our meetings…..we would end up going round in circles.
Still reminds me of the great Focus Pocus, with that big tripod over the shoulder. He has a bazooka like camera as well, looks the part, so gets plenty of attention.
@@TheCount66 He replied to a comment I sent him yesterday, he busy at normal work. He did say he was out filming the other day but was pissing down and too windy, so he gave up. So I assume we will see some videos soon, well I hope. Still around that's the main thing.
But the auditor thinks he is exempt from GDPR and you don't pick him up on that? He is not exempt when publishing the video (for commercial purposes) as it is no longer for private use and it would not meet the journalism exemption as there is misinformation presented.
@@7king8debs79 exactly , EXACTLY ,,, filming isn't the probleme it's whats done with the video/images after..... thats probably why , as with many auditors, they never put in the desciption the location , name of the company , email address or telephone ... they're probably scared that someone who actually knows the laws will contact his victims and explain to them their rights.
@@7king8debs79 Freedom of the press , anything that is deemed public interest is exempt from GDPR . How an authoritative figure engages with the public is by its very definition public interest. . Obviously your type fear being held accountable and transparent when engaging with the public because you have been groomed to lie and misinform ,so understandable that you are desperate not to be caught in the vile act .
@@HagbardAntonWilson Many auditors publish contact details ,in the u s they use it very effectively to crash the phoneline's of private businesses and the public sectors alike who abuse the public . If you advise folk Not to do somthing they invariably do but as you advised them not to you are not responsible for their actions . Even the police lawyers give a dire warning not to mess with auditors and to quote founder of lexipol " auditors always win " Police: Handling a First Amendment Audit - Today's Tip from Lexipol ua-cam.com/video/1VnQfeP-Fyk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Lexipol
The two comments that spring to mind are : - "Oh so you actually believe that you have jurisdiction over a member of public in public do you?" and "So you can record me without permission but I cannot record you?"
Love it last bloke saying Lawyers working in the building but don’t know the law. That’s the firm of lawyers you need if you don’t won’t to win your case or give correct advice.
The fact you are filming is public as people can see you are filming. But the reason why you are filming can remain private under article 8 of the human rights act. ANYONE who tries to stop you or interferes is infringing on your human rights. You should inform them of this. Just tell them or the police what you are doing is legal. AND PRIVATE. Also article one protocol one allows you to enjoy your possessions like your camera equipment as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights. Filming and filming alone isn't infringing on anyone's rights. Also article 10 allows us to gather and impart information.
Article 8 is not absolute and by lying to people and saying he is exempt from GDPR but will upload to social media, he is restricting their rights to consent to the control of their image. They do not lose this right simply be being in a public space.
GDPR is as misunderstood and misused as ‘Health and Safety’ in an attempt to not do something, prevent something, make excuses or appear authoritarian.
It makes me question why these companies spend fortunes on renovations to make there buildings look good and then the security are apparently told to stop anyone appreciating the quality of the buildings 😂😂😂
Because if they see something they deem 'suspicious', their ACT training dictates they should. Whether photography should be seen as suspicious is a different question, though.
I've binge watched all your videos and i like what you do you keep your videos short and you take no bull shit and you give as good as you get so on that i am subscribing
When he looked through the viewfinder what was he expecting to see? A different building, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, London zoo? Bizarre or is he just thick?
There seems to be so many dull people about. Build an office block with floor to ceiling windows. Then wonder why someone looks into the property. The expression ‘halfwit’ springs to mind here 🤔
I'm gonna get my boss now. Back in the day I would say I'm gonna get my mum. And the Queen will not be telling you anything. I think you will find she has pasted away.
At least they are polite and come out to ask things first. Don't come to Wisbech whatever you do. They don't ask. They come out onto the public highway and a muscular builder assaults you. Well he might not assault *you*. Maybe he will only thump a woman as though she was a man, and then only as long as she's only 5 feet tall and nearly 70 years of age. Perhaps that's as brave as he gets. Look for the Wisbech granny basher.
Sometimes I just don't say a word when I get challenged! (Like Reacher). Just keep taking photographs. Seriously, I also carry a copy of "Photographers Rights. Just hand them a copy of it.
6:30 You could say that your UA-cam channel is only for other photography friends. Gives the implication that it's not for them without the connotations that you are being "difficult" because you aren't accepting their authoritah.
Thanks It was rather good I subscribed I like this approach very clever also a very nice revolving door I hope to see many different styles of doors some open faster than others I think door speeds are very interesting to hope you show more of the very different types and speeds Great new channel keep up the great work Regards Haley Regards Haley
Great exercise,it shows everyone our rights and boundaries because unfortunately the police have been recently trained to sway in favour of the corporate bodies rather than the people so it helps to restore the balance, the guy securing the lawyers building was amazing, super great guy.
6:10 Why do people think that every single second of video and every photo goes on social media or the internet? If they fish, do they put every fish caught up on Instagram. If they play football, do they put every kick and every tackle and every head on Facebook. How dumb can people be that they don't have the concept that some people like to do things for their own pleasure. Just like a person who makes Airfix models or does some knitting. It's a form of relaxation.
every business is 'private property'. if you can look with your eyes you can take a video or take a photo of it. They tell the public to stop recording yet 2 minutes later start recording themself...
Is it really a requirement for a photographer to inform and educate ignorant people for free ? If you had asked him for his name I’m sure he would become cagey. Even lawyers don’t have a clue about the legalities.
Why do intelligent people, maybe high up in their company structure, believe that buildings are private and therefore can't be photographed? It's partly down to that word.....private. Let me offer this..... 3 kinds of private..... 1. Private - as in secret/hidden - documents/buildings....pretty much anything, including thoughts obviously! Not easy to photograph, so not really applicable. 2. Private Land - land is privately owned, but can still be photographed from public land 3. Private Business - could be on public land or private land - again, can still be photographed So when workers and managers so their business is private, they are confusing at least two of the above, and neither apply to the photographer! Mass delusion/paranoia!
The SLR camera is not well suited for continuous video as it stops recording after a short period. What is it, 5 minutes? Do you use that mainly for still shots?
If this was 1823 and people were amazed to see a camera then fine, but this is 2023 and there are over 90 million phones and millions of CCTV cameras smothering every city in the UK and still people moan about it. Unbelievable.
you don't get the difference ,,, literally 99.99% of cctv are never NEVER watched by anyone , literally all are recorded onto hard drives and never looked at , unless a crime is committed then , THEN someone will watche the videos to see if there is any proof of who what where and when... Some stranger who refuses to identify himself,,,,, could be a stalker waiting for his victim , or looking for a new victim , following their movements ,,,, could be working for the husband boyfreind of a lady in hiding from physical abuse ,,, no one know what you are doing or what you are going to do with the images , with a really good quality high-res you could make "deep-fakes"" of someone committing a crime or in a p**n movie ....
Another one with an incoherent dialect lol. How do they get employed ? Ahhh I see why that guard was taken on , birds if a feather lol. And then another 1 appears of the same clan link. So altogether 5 employees wasted the company's time in turns. Wouldn't look good on a time & motion report.
Security should stay within the private property and not ask questions of people in the public area.
The problem security has, what the law say Vs What the building management/landlord demands, they are between a rock and a hard place.
There is nothing morally, or legally, wrong with security personnel asking polite questions, of the public, in public.
In fact, their ACT training says they should ask questions if they see something 'suspicious'.
@@cirian75 the problem they have is that they as thick as shite.
@@scotttchviski6706 so a person with a camera is 'suspicious'? really, in this day and age? He should have asked why the building has lots of cameras filming him.
@@2019freddie Potentially, yes. Until you go and investigate, you don't know.
What planet are these security guys on? Taking photos of a building...whatever next!? Stay inside and mind yer own!
Quite polite tho
They all must live under a rock somewhere and all talk about the past and what they think is the law😂😂😂
Saw the last few videos you've done and you've earned yourself another subscriber. The tyrants must learn!
"my building" .. theres a huge problem in that statement
That is very interesting indeed. I work for myself now, but before when I worked for others I never once used the word 'my' or 'our'.when referring to the company or the building.
Perhaps that was because I didn't want to belong? I didn't belong and that's why I got out.
I am not suggesting that is what is going on here, but I have seen so many friends become institutionalized by stealth in this way... Sadly as soon as they are offered a company pension they rarely escape.
Peace and best wishes.🌞
Speaking as the Vice President of the revolving door appreciation society I am completely taken aback with your comment about it being sad to take photos all day of revolving doors and will be bringing this up at our next bi monthly meeting. I would argue this subject with you but it would be like trying to get into one of our meetings…..we would end up going round in circles.
lol =)
If it's lawyers, then they should know the laws about public photography.
They do, doesn't mean they won't bully you. That's what a lot of the law has become. Those with the deepest pockets get the best outcome.
Still reminds me of the great Focus Pocus, with that big tripod over the shoulder. He has a bazooka like camera as well, looks the part, so gets plenty of attention.
Whatever happened to him?
@@TheCount66 He replied to a comment I sent him yesterday, he busy at normal work. He did say he was out filming the other day but was pissing down and too windy, so he gave up. So I assume we will see some videos soon, well I hope. Still around that's the main thing.
Focus Pocus also has a shutter sound like a machine gun.😂
2:00 The moment she asked if it was compliant with GDPR is the moment we all learned that she fell asleep during the data protection training session.
I know!!!
It’s a two day course and they bang on about consent.
It’s just one of SIX legal bases.
My favourite is Legal Necessity.
But the auditor thinks he is exempt from GDPR and you don't pick him up on that? He is not exempt when publishing the video (for commercial purposes) as it is no longer for private use and it would not meet the journalism exemption as there is misinformation presented.
@@7king8debs79 exactly , EXACTLY ,,, filming isn't the probleme it's whats done with the video/images after..... thats probably why , as with many auditors, they never put in the desciption the location , name of the company , email address or telephone ... they're probably scared that someone who actually knows the laws will contact his victims and explain to them their rights.
@@7king8debs79 Freedom of the press , anything that is deemed public interest is exempt from GDPR . How an authoritative figure engages with the public is by its very definition public interest. . Obviously your type fear being held accountable and transparent when engaging with the public because you have been groomed to lie and misinform ,so understandable that you are desperate not to be caught in the vile act .
@@HagbardAntonWilson Many auditors publish contact details ,in the u s they use it very effectively to crash the phoneline's of private businesses and the public sectors alike who abuse the public . If you advise folk Not to do somthing they invariably do but as you advised them not to you are not responsible for their actions . Even the police lawyers give a dire warning not to mess with auditors and to quote founder of lexipol " auditors always win " Police: Handling a First Amendment Audit - Today's Tip from Lexipol ua-cam.com/video/1VnQfeP-Fyk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Lexipol
I would just say to them, "Have you got written permission to interrogate me on public property?".
great idea.
The two comments that spring to mind are : - "Oh so you actually believe that you have jurisdiction over a member of public in public do you?" and "So you can record me without permission but I cannot record you?"
It's my building, not miss funny knickers 😂
just advice for people your not required to answer security questions especially when your on public property
"Welcome to England"
It still baffles me that these people think they have any sort of authority anywhere towards anyone.
They think they're important. In reality they are not important, not even in their own business.
"My building." Some people are just weird.
Love it last bloke saying Lawyers working in the building but don’t know the law. That’s the firm of lawyers you need if you don’t won’t to win your case or give correct advice.
“It’s heavily camered…why are you taking photos?…” 😮
They can take photos but not members of the public. They are special and privileged...
Blows my mind every day that people still think that we're not allowed to photograph or film private property.
At last, someone using the Buckingham Palace analogy ! 👍🏼
The fact you are filming is public as people can see you are filming. But the reason why you are filming can remain private under article 8 of the human rights act. ANYONE who tries to stop you or interferes is infringing on your human rights. You should inform them of this. Just tell them or the police what you are doing is legal. AND PRIVATE. Also article one protocol one allows you to enjoy your possessions like your camera equipment as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights. Filming and filming alone isn't infringing on anyone's rights. Also article 10 allows us to gather and impart information.
Article 8 is not absolute and by lying to people and saying he is exempt from GDPR but will upload to social media, he is restricting their rights to consent to the control of their image. They do not lose this right simply be being in a public space.
GDPR is as misunderstood and misused as ‘Health and Safety’ in an attempt to not do something, prevent something, make excuses or appear authoritarian.
Every photographer misses a trick when people say 'we don't allow that' by replying 'I don't allow you to not allow it'.
Mr motivator has gone back😂😂🎉
No1 Redcliffe st , I used to work in there . Security were great men back then the only difference was they were English and knew the law !
I was thinking the very same 👍
It makes me question why these companies spend fortunes on renovations to make there buildings look good and then the security are apparently told to stop anyone appreciating the quality of the buildings 😂😂😂
You explain too much you don’t owe this clowns anything man😂😂😅
Loving the channel mate, you're very good and you'll get many more subs 👍
I'm a new subscriber. I enjoyed this video. Just one thought if the last building was full of lawyers, they, above anyone should know the law, surely.
The Queen at Buckingham Palace....more chance of seeing the king ..or ...Andrew showing children his puppy's....and given them sweets 😅
Refreshing to see an auditor not scream and shout straight away nice to see someone just talk normal for a change
I can’t say I’ve seen an auditor scream and shout. Could you tell me the name of the ones that do please?
2:22 she was obviously having a little flirt with you, PCA. Read the room, mate😂
Here in the US we tell them that there is no expectation privacy in public. We can video anything that can be seen from a public walkway.
Nice channel friend 🙂👍🇭🇲
It’s so embarrassing there’s so many uneducated people who think they can tell others what to do !
Are you on a boat because the footage keeps rocking.
Body worn gopro🤦♂️
Your vids are very different to other similar content I watch but I do like them 🎉🎉
Cheers
Marvellous 🤩
Why are all these secret buildings in such busy and highly visible locations?
And some numpty ordered the glass rather than the bricks
It would be a ghost if the queen came out fella. 😅
They're in a bit of a quandary then, they can't allow it? & yet they can't stop it either. 😅
Why are they asking?
Because if they see something they deem 'suspicious', their ACT training dictates they should. Whether photography should be seen as suspicious is a different question, though.
7:20 what’s the interest in this building…
The interest is you thicko
There's legal precedent to support tge photographer; R. Vs Aubrey Berry & Campbell (1977).
Why are you taking pics of "My Building"...
Have you got an interest in revolving doors?..well in a roundabout way i do 😅
I've binge watched all your videos and i like what you do you keep your videos short and you take no bull shit and you give as good as you get so on that i am subscribing
When he looked through the viewfinder what was he expecting to see? A different building, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, London zoo? Bizarre or is he just thick?
Last security guard well polite respect to him 💯✊🏾
There seems to be so many dull people about. Build an office block with floor to ceiling windows. Then wonder why someone looks into the property. The expression ‘halfwit’ springs to mind here 🤔
Please would you say where these places are? I know some of them are Bristol or Bristol area. It makes it more interesting.
I'm gonna get my boss now. Back in the day I would say I'm gonna get my mum. And the Queen will not be telling you anything. I think you will find she has pasted away.
'I'm the security guard in here' Then what are you doing outside in the public area?
At least they are polite and come out to ask things first. Don't come to Wisbech whatever you do. They don't ask. They come out onto the public highway and a muscular builder assaults you.
Well he might not assault *you*. Maybe he will only thump a woman as though she was a man, and then only as long as she's only 5 feet tall and nearly 70 years of age. Perhaps that's as brave as he gets.
Look for the Wisbech granny basher.
Why do people always think you’ll be frightened when they say I’m going to get the boss 😅
Because they are scared of the boss. They are arse wipes
Nice one PCA, new subscriber, keep up the good stuff, stay safe out there buddy 👊
Please hold still... I felt a bit seasick for a minute!😂
Hey Henri Cartier-Bresson, why are you photographing in public?
You are a lot more polite than me, I would be "mind your business Noddy, you have no authority on the public foot path"
And you are?????
"Happy as larry...... Well, i was"
You'd think lawyers would know the law on public photography??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Which town was this filmed in ?.
Bristol 👍
4:26 Tells you that you can't record so he starts to record. The irony would go right over their heads.
these are brilliant thank you .
It's my building, and i'll cry if I want too.
surprising how its MY building why dont the Tenants want to know where the guy with the wheelbarrow is going i do
Lol
This girl should ease up on the ink before she has to change her name to "AquaMan"....
Sometimes I just don't say a word when I get challenged! (Like Reacher). Just keep taking photographs. Seriously, I also carry a copy of "Photographers Rights. Just hand them a copy of it.
Meanwhile, many people walking through the entrance with backpacks, bags and dark glasses. The logic is weird.
A firm of lawyers should have at least one person who understands the legislation around photography in public, surely?
6:30 You could say that your UA-cam channel is only for other photography friends. Gives the implication that it's not for them without the connotations that you are being "difficult" because you aren't accepting their authoritah.
Good man.
Thanks It was rather good I subscribed I like this approach very clever also a very nice revolving door I hope to see many different styles of doors some open faster than others I think door speeds are very interesting to hope you show more of the very different types and speeds
Great new channel keep up the great work
Regards
Haley
Regards
Haley
I met my partner in a revolving door, we've been going round together ever since 😮
9:18 Sticking your nose in other peoples business, isn't polite. It's rude.
Great exercise,it shows everyone our rights and boundaries because unfortunately the police have been recently trained to sway in favour of the corporate bodies rather than the people so it helps to restore the balance, the guy securing the lawyers building was amazing, super great guy.
Little tip. Try to keep you camera still. getting dizzy watching! Have a look.
One of Jay from the inbetweeners birds.
Last guy was a legend.. and I think this new auditor I found might be too!
the guy standing outside the building saying it’s private…. probably shouldn’t have made it out of glass then 🤦♂️
i dont get a reaction in bristol anymore
where are the English people?!
0:40 Section 62 of the Copyright, Design and Patents Act 1988 specifically allows photography of buildings.
It's a common law right - you are free to do anything that has not been expressly prohibited by law.
Lovely ta...
Subbed !
12,000 miles away...
6:10 Why do people think that every single second of video and every photo goes on social media or the internet? If they fish, do they put every fish caught up on Instagram. If they play football, do they put every kick and every tackle and every head on Facebook. How dumb can people be that they don't have the concept that some people like to do things for their own pleasure. Just like a person who makes Airfix models or does some knitting. It's a form of relaxation.
If the company doesn't want the building to be recorded, they need to cover it up from public view.
every business is 'private property'. if you can look with your eyes you can take a video or take a photo of it.
They tell the public to stop recording yet 2 minutes later start recording themself...
They don't think at that level (one level up)
Is it really a requirement for a photographer to inform and educate ignorant people for free ? If you had asked him for his name I’m sure he would become cagey. Even lawyers don’t have a clue about the legalities.
The first old bird that came out was ok
❤❤❤❤ Jesus Christ is the way the truth the life
Not sure your allowed to film my building , what a drip .
Why do intelligent people, maybe high up in their company structure, believe that buildings are private and therefore can't be photographed? It's partly down to that word.....private. Let me offer this.....
3 kinds of private.....
1. Private - as in secret/hidden - documents/buildings....pretty much anything, including thoughts obviously! Not easy to photograph, so not really applicable.
2. Private Land - land is privately owned, but can still be photographed from public land
3. Private Business - could be on public land or private land - again, can still be photographed
So when workers and managers so their business is private, they are confusing at least two of the above, and neither apply to the photographer! Mass delusion/paranoia!
It would be Impossible to film the Queen in her bedroom because she passed on month's ago Doughnut...............?
Why don’t you ask when that clip was filmed first? Doh
Who’s the doughnut 🍩 now…?…
There's more than one Queen in the royal household. Think about it...
my building my building arrrrrrrr, help me live .
The SLR camera is not well suited for continuous video as it stops recording after a short period. What is it, 5 minutes? Do you use that mainly for still shots?
If this was 1823 and people were amazed to see a camera then fine, but this is 2023 and there are over 90 million phones and millions of CCTV cameras smothering every city in the UK and still people moan about it. Unbelievable.
you don't get the difference ,,, literally 99.99% of cctv are never NEVER watched by anyone , literally all are recorded onto hard drives and never looked at , unless a crime is committed then , THEN someone will watche the videos to see if there is any proof of who what where and when...
Some stranger who refuses to identify himself,,,,, could be a stalker waiting for his victim , or looking for a new victim , following their movements ,,,, could be working for the husband boyfreind of a lady in hiding from physical abuse ,,, no one know what you are doing or what you are going to do with the images , with a really good quality high-res you could make "deep-fakes"" of someone committing a crime or in a p**n movie ....
Oh its a snowflake world we live in
Why do you allow these strangers to interrogate you, you should just say none of your business now go away.
Another one with an incoherent dialect lol.
How do they get employed ? Ahhh I see why that guard was taken on , birds if a feather lol. And then another 1 appears of the same clan link.
So altogether 5 employees wasted the company's time in turns. Wouldn't look good on a time & motion report.
learn the law
Brilliant just brilliant
Being filmed can melt people's brains, and expose their lies, so a lot of people are afraid of them.
The problem security has, what the law say Vs What the building management/landlord demands, they are between a rock and a hard place.