yes, but does your keyboard have a JOYSTICK?

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2022
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  • @shoobo3548
    @shoobo3548 Рік тому +34

    Love when creators give their personal thoughts about their builds, rather than simply reading product specs. Very refreshing keeb content!

  • @coleydotmp4
    @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +8

    apologies to early watchers who saw this in 360p lmao, looks like it's fixed now! hope you enjoy the video :) please like and sub to help me reach my 10k goal! Thank you all

  • @talbotsolenberger4434
    @talbotsolenberger4434 Рік тому +4

    Your videos are better than your sub count would lead one to think! Thanks for reviewing this board in as much detail as you did.

  • @0xArkemi
    @0xArkemi Рік тому +1

    also peeling the protectors of the acrylic is super satisfactory imo, definitely enjoyable

  • @aidanprather170
    @aidanprather170 Рік тому +2

    I was an inch away from buying this a couple months ago, Im really glad you enjoyed yours!

  • @MichaelCurren
    @MichaelCurren Рік тому

    Would love to see you cover more weird budget boards on this channel. Great video!!

  • @Squidhead
    @Squidhead Рік тому +1

    I’d mess around and play some racing games to torture myself.
    So excited to see a new, upcoming keyboard content creator! Subbed :D

  • @JohnnyTsunami_
    @JohnnyTsunami_ Рік тому

    I love your lil animations!!

  • @MillerKevinG
    @MillerKevinG Рік тому

    I love the animations in your videos! So original!

  • @thediplomat1124
    @thediplomat1124 Рік тому

    I currently type on a Mercutio 40 and love it, and I have been looking for another unique, but practical 40%. Awesome review, I think I know what I'm getting next!

  • @tadasstrazdas
    @tadasstrazdas Рік тому

    Thanks for this video on my birthday! Got me smiling!

  • @user-lp5wb2rb3v
    @user-lp5wb2rb3v 2 місяці тому

    I think having it in the middle to control with a thumb could be an interesting idea

  • @eeveeblazelol
    @eeveeblazelol 4 місяці тому

    after a really long time of procrastination im putting my coley switches on this board like i originally intended

  • @francescocipullo3436
    @francescocipullo3436 Рік тому +4

    Amazing content! Keep going, that's the right direction.

  • @DoctaPanda82
    @DoctaPanda82 Рік тому +2

    I wonder is swapping out the potentiometers will make subtler stick inputs to be possible.
    Great video!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      I've heard from other libra mini owners that it is possible to swap out the joystick for a true analogue stick. but i think it would require soldering and some software puzzle solving

  • @duckyjuggernaut5533
    @duckyjuggernaut5533 Рік тому

    the best part about the video other than the board is Cooper being the cutest goodboi in the world

  • @yourhomiesushi
    @yourhomiesushi Рік тому

    Such a cute and wacky board! I love it

  • @0xArkemi
    @0xArkemi Рік тому

    love the layout

  • @mobnobbob6uwu9gamerxd
    @mobnobbob6uwu9gamerxd Рік тому +1

    this is endgame

  • @barbietripping
    @barbietripping Рік тому

    Never have I wished my right hand had more to do when gaming. The joystick is simply on the wrong side, and it’s a bummer because the rest of the board is pretty nice

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      I think there's definitely room in the market for a board with a full 360 degree joystick on the left side of the board. Could be really fun.

  • @Amiro05
    @Amiro05 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely WONDERFUL socks and sandals attire, 9/10, needs to be coley themed
    Oh and also great video! 😂

  • @henrirobbins3029
    @henrirobbins3029 Рік тому +17

    Great keyboard, but definitely a bit of a bummer to see the limitations on the stick, especially when optical keyboards with variable input levels have been popping up for a few years now :/ Either way, fantastic video going over this unique device!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      Thank you Henri! from what ive gathered talking to other libra mini owners, you could put a full joystick on this thing if you bought one separate and soldered it all in. im not the most experienced in that level of modding, but it is possible to upgrade it.

  • @dnegrete3736
    @dnegrete3736 Рік тому

    The board is a combo between Akko Alice Plus and the GameCube controller, and the keycaps are a mix between two sets. Perfect

  • @rainykeyboard
    @rainykeyboard Рік тому

    the outro so wholesome 🥺

  • @Jobo9O9
    @Jobo9O9 Рік тому

    Was looking to see if anyone mentioned that the timestamps are just different useful macOS apps. Very cool video and neat inclusion.

  • @kav9533
    @kav9533 Рік тому

    such a cool board!

  • @silfrido1768
    @silfrido1768 9 місяців тому

    That sounds clean

  • @thesurgeonkeebs9857
    @thesurgeonkeebs9857 Рік тому +1

    I saw this keyboard and just assumed it was some long finished group buy. I still can't believe it's just affordable.

  • @Shamuel-0
    @Shamuel-0 Рік тому +2

    Great Keyboard! I would pick it up if it wasnt 40%

  • @0Metatron
    @0Metatron Рік тому +1

    If they actually put an analog joystick in it it would be perfect as a mouse

  • @linushbr9088
    @linushbr9088 Рік тому

    criminaly underated

  • @hellfire_rxse7512
    @hellfire_rxse7512 Рік тому +1

    as a person with limited mobility in my hands at times, I think the joystick will be great for me!

    • @MAGAIVER
      @MAGAIVER 11 місяців тому

      You should look into a column staggered split keyboard like the Corne or Ferris, they require a lot less hand movement to access everything, should be good with limited mobility.

  • @chibswong
    @chibswong Рік тому +3

    Hi coley, this is a really cool board! A few questions - you mentioned everything worked out of the box except for the other B key. What about the joystick, did that require any additional components or soldering to be detected? Also where did you order your kit from?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      Nope! joystick registers in VIA as arrowkeys. Just make sure you download the json file and you should be good. Got my kit from Aliexpress since im in the US, but taobao has it for even cheaper if you live in Asia.

    • @nftbandit9645
      @nftbandit9645 8 місяців тому

      Ok so this video might be a year old but I just finished building mine and the right B key is not working for me either. I wonder what that is about...

  • @jamqc24
    @jamqc24 Рік тому

    I cant believe I wasnt the only one inspired to purchase one due to the Taeha keyboard meet video! Right on love the vid!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      No way! YES it was great to see everyones builds in the video. Such a creative idea from EuraPSD. I am debating if and what i should design for my libra mini...

  • @jecslide3790
    @jecslide3790 Рік тому +1

    what did you do to cooper that the outcome was a libra mini?
    sheesh

  • @Luke-we9gj
    @Luke-we9gj Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the Elboard shill! Also as for keycaps, you basically made an over complicated NicePBT Sugarplum lol

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      Shilling? just telling the truth haha. you guys are one of the only vendors with the birds.

  • @_ExTitus
    @_ExTitus Рік тому

    not only is it 40% and alice and acrylic. but it has a nifty gimmick.
    Well there goes my hunger for a praxis im (top mounted alice).
    If I do end up buying one, I think I'll buy a hall effect joystick to solder in. Even though I don't think it will be usable as a true joystick unless the joystick is a seperate controller... It would be fun

  • @ChubiPanda
    @ChubiPanda Рік тому

    How bizarre that it has an analogue stick that isn't analogue. Still looks really cool!

  • @psychometry544
    @psychometry544 Рік тому

    I was looking for hall effect sensor joysticks and I came across this.

  • @VinnyUnion
    @VinnyUnion 6 місяців тому

    You're somebody I'd consider a true guyfriend that will aid you in destroying sweaty nerds in MMOBAS and pvp shooters such as RUST

  • @MAGAIVER
    @MAGAIVER 11 місяців тому

    I thought about getting this keyboard in the past, it looks like a lot of fun, but now that I'm used to 30% ortholinears I won't go back.

  • @rahmaniastrid
    @rahmaniastrid Рік тому

    cool board, an instant sub!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      Thanks for the sub! Welcome to the coley crew :)

  • @decyph3r
    @decyph3r Рік тому

    Was wondering if Nice!Nano or other equivalent wireless controller will work with this.

  • @DanteHaroun
    @DanteHaroun Рік тому

    Very nice, wish more keyboards did this

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      me too. the value here is insane and such a cool addition to my keyboard collection

  • @themcbaughman
    @themcbaughman Рік тому

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I now need it or else I will die.

  • @gustyequation
    @gustyequation Рік тому +1

    COOPER IS THE CUTEST THING

  • @umaninstrumentalityprject2989

    Ngl should review the feker matchas

  • @MetroGradeGoods
    @MetroGradeGoods Рік тому

    Where do I track down the joystick component? I am going to order this board thanks to your vid. Thanks!!!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      joystick comes with the kit!

    • @MetroGradeGoods
      @MetroGradeGoods Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 OH BABY ! BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      @@MetroGradeGoods RIGHT? one of my fav keyboards in my collection

    • @MetroGradeGoods
      @MetroGradeGoods Рік тому

      I just found out the joystick is a standard Xbox/PlayStation aftermarket stick! You can replace it.

  • @SpookyGCC
    @SpookyGCC Рік тому +1

    I was checking out this board a while back, because I thought it was pretty unique, but to be honest the number of screws holding this this together was pretty off-putting to me, looked kind of cheap to me.
    Maybe in another case color other than transparent it would look a little less obvious. Cool little kit though.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, i could see why you feel that way. there are definitely a lot of screws. but the build does feel really solid if you tighten the right amount. it also look cheap because... it IS cheap! haha

  • @n0vi
    @n0vi Місяць тому

    Joystick on the left would've been best

  • @djd34d14
    @djd34d14 Рік тому

    Who's that person in the other room behind you that seems to be doing exactly what you're doing?
    Also libra mini possibly best Alice type 40 don't at me

  • @jammies701
    @jammies701 Рік тому

    Great vid

  • @JohnnyTsunami_
    @JohnnyTsunami_ Рік тому

    I just bought a ton of tx stabs just to replace all my durock and owlab stabs. Seems like everyone has been recommending them

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      They are just so easy. Just a tiny bit of lube and you're good. I've never needed to plug the butt with the TX stabs.

  • @muffinlikes_chips6721
    @muffinlikes_chips6721 Рік тому

    pov: your right joystick stops working so you decide to use a $100 keyboard as your joystick

  • @Jobo9O9
    @Jobo9O9 Рік тому

    I think the ElBoard affiliate link may be broken, was interested in checking out the switches though

  • @ahmadnurhadi2648
    @ahmadnurhadi2648 Рік тому +2

    Saw this and for some time was hoping someone would do a review. Thank you so much.
    One question though, can you program the joystick to have dual function? (Like being able to use as a mouse as well as arrow function?) Thanks!

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      Yes! I explain in the video - you can do that with layers in VIA.

    • @ahmadnurhadi2648
      @ahmadnurhadi2648 Рік тому +1

      @@coleydotmp4 sweet. Thanks for taking the time to reply ☺️

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      @@ahmadnurhadi2648 You're welcome!

  • @cleoyuko1524
    @cleoyuko1524 Рік тому

    ah yes the libra mini

  • @RezTheHero
    @RezTheHero 11 місяців тому

    It might not be the analog stick itself, it's the limitation of some emulators.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  11 місяців тому

      Dophin has the capacity for full 360 joystick controllers. This is the only analogue stick i own that is limited, unfortunately. It was designed to only be able to mimic arrowkeys.

  • @ErgonomicChair
    @ErgonomicChair Рік тому

    Well that's a neat keyboard

  • @roostersden3010
    @roostersden3010 Рік тому

    Man I really need to get me one of these now lmao.

  • @seoulrebel007
    @seoulrebel007 Рік тому

    Keyboards and Corgs for the win!

  • @pinkfluffeeunicorns
    @pinkfluffeeunicorns Рік тому

    i just built the same board and i love it

  • @eliotcole
    @eliotcole Рік тому

    😩... why is the thumbstick on the right side WAH (this is awesome still)

  • @naveisanegg
    @naveisanegg Рік тому

    bit of a late comment but what size tx stabs should you buy for this?

  • @mikucherry1337
    @mikucherry1337 Рік тому

    cool video!

  • @deasesebago
    @deasesebago Рік тому +2

    zaza

  • @FCMT_Rebis99
    @FCMT_Rebis99 Рік тому

    Sir. where can i get json or modifying tool? i bought it yesterday.........but many review told they cannot search it....

  • @lolathetomboy
    @lolathetomboy Рік тому

    the keycaps actually reminds me of nicepbt's sugarplum

  • @_ExTitus
    @_ExTitus Рік тому

    and it has the double b. noice

  • @EclipseMakesContent
    @EclipseMakesContent Рік тому

    Why does the keyboard sound like the lego building noise?

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik Рік тому

    DOGGO!

  • @katarinafoda3699
    @katarinafoda3699 Рік тому +1

    i've been eyeballing this board for a while on ali now and tbh at first i thought it was a scam and waited for someone i trust to review it, thankfully you did LMAO
    how usable is the layout? did it take a lot of time to get used to the slanted angle + alice typing?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      I would say it took more time getting used to the layers than the tented/alice just because i already learned to touch type! it definitely helped me get better at touch typing. you also need to get used to the joystick instead of arrowkeys, but after a week i was pretty comfortable. I'm really glad that the review helped! i think if you get one, you won't regret it.

    • @katarinafoda3699
      @katarinafoda3699 Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 layers really aren't a big problem for me, so I'm def gonna buy it!
      again, thanks for reviewing it. you're honestly a really big inspo for me, I'd really like to begin making keyboard videos. much love from a Brazilian trans woman

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      @@katarinafoda3699 YESSSSSS love love love to see more women in the hobby, especially in the content creation space. let me know if you decide to make videos about keyboards, i'd love to see them!

    • @katarinafoda3699
      @katarinafoda3699 Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 i will let you know! can't promise they will be good tho :P

  • @tcalf
    @tcalf Рік тому

    tx vs staebies vs owl. hasn't been done yet.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      i know. need to get on it, trying to find a good board to fairly compare them on.

  • @chiizuu752
    @chiizuu752 Рік тому

    Surprised people didn't know about this

  • @justinhong7638
    @justinhong7638 Рік тому

    I have MT3 2048 on my Libra Mini and a friend said it looks like teeth. Can't unsee that now.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      🤣 your friend is a hater ahahahaha. no but really im sure your libra mini is awesome and NOT teeth-esque

  • @SkimoStories
    @SkimoStories Рік тому

    I went down the exact same rabbit hole with this keyboard (reddit keycap pic, comments, went to aliexpress) and I swear I would've bought it if it weren't split. Maybe it's just me but a split layout would be a blemish on my collection

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      Ha a blemish? I like it in my collection because it makes it less homogenized. I think its the coolest board in my collection!

    • @SkimoStories
      @SkimoStories Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 different strokes. My entire collection are standard ansi keyboards. Can’t go ortholinear or split or I’ll break the mold.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      @@SkimoStories Ha fair enough! Have you tried any weird boards like this before?

    • @SkimoStories
      @SkimoStories Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 no, but I’ll be keeping an eye out for any standard layout with a real analog stick. Shame that it’s a bit janky, but an awesome piece for a collection for sure.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      @@SkimoStories If the libra mini picks up steam, i think it could happen someday in the future. it would also be cool to see an analogue stick somewhere on the left side for the ultimate keyboard and mouse control scheme

  • @MFJ_Boards
    @MFJ_Boards Рік тому +2

    do you play melee?

  • @akshatdev3596
    @akshatdev3596 Рік тому

    Im sad that this is a 40 percent I wish there was a larger more available version of this.

  • @pandy999
    @pandy999 Рік тому +1

    Welp

  • @thawzie
    @thawzie Рік тому

    how do you game with these without the numbers?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      I don't typically play games with number row, but you can always remap in either VIA or the game itself to accommodate and memorize where your specific inputs are. so you'd have typical WASD, plus any keys around it, or you could use a modifier key. it would really depend on the game.

  • @gillian32
    @gillian32 Рік тому

    I read you have to buy a 4-pin connector and solder it to get the joystick to work. 🤨

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      To get a new joystick that is full analogue? Because the stock one was already ready to go, you just had to pop on the grey joystick. Soldering not required for this build unless you wanted to upgrade the stick

  • @chrisgauthier4511
    @chrisgauthier4511 Рік тому

    I cant find your keyboard in any of your link..

  • @lukehTM
    @lukehTM Рік тому

    W video

  • @wazadandan
    @wazadandan 4 місяці тому

    Kayboard joystick, it's m'y 3nd, 2 Razer tartarus, and one spirit of gamer !! Big shit! But i am old player PlayStation, i want this for my left hands with mousse on right!!

  • @acolyte6six6
    @acolyte6six6 Рік тому

    it's gimmick of joystick to feel a bit fancy about your arrow keys
    it's not a real analog joystick.

  • @FrozenMaple
    @FrozenMaple Рік тому +1

    Do you still think it’s worth it to get it on aliexpress?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      yeah! you pay a little more than taobao but its still a great deal.

    • @FrozenMaple
      @FrozenMaple Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 true and with shipping it’s practically the same

  • @vali69
    @vali69 Рік тому

    I don't think you can order from taobao outside of China.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      You can - you just need to use a proxy service. its complicated but it can be done.

  • @nhimsopheak
    @nhimsopheak Рік тому

    Can you play Dota on this? Dota needs the number row

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      you might need to change keybinds within DOTA or definitely use layers. I would do some research to see if anyone's played Dota on a 40%.

  • @Iz_2801
    @Iz_2801 Рік тому

    I got mine from taobao about 50 usd

  • @michaelm1566
    @michaelm1566 Рік тому

    Can i use akko keycap on this keyboard?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      they will work but you will have to get creative with which keys you have to put in certain spaces. make sure you look on the listing of the libra and that you have the correct size for things like enter, the smaller split spacebar, etc etc

    • @michaelm1566
      @michaelm1566 Рік тому

      As for the stabilizer, what did you use, screw in or clip in? Thank you

  • @detectivedevito
    @detectivedevito Рік тому

    Do you know what MCU to flash the board to? Is it ATmega32U4?

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      im not sure, i didnt flash the board, I just used VIA and imported the json

    • @detectivedevito
      @detectivedevito Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 did you have any issues with your control and shift button? They don’t work for me :(

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому

      @@detectivedevito have you imported the json to via? I had some weird mapping i had to fix in VIA first. could be that.

    • @detectivedevito
      @detectivedevito Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 I did but still had the issue. I’ll try clearing it and remapping again though

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      @@detectivedevito ok. i think there's a reset button on it to. I'd also confirm that your pins arent bent and that they are correctly touching the hotswap sockets - sometimes intentionally slightly bending the pins can help them register, too.

  • @Okamika44
    @Okamika44 Рік тому

    Joystick is on the wrong side for gaming 😢

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +1

      yeah,, its replacing the arrow keys on a keyboard. Maybe we will see boards with different layouts

  • @isogames2391
    @isogames2391 Рік тому

    a like and a comment for the yt algorithm 👍

  • @beanwithbacon
    @beanwithbacon Місяць тому

    Analog sticks just need to disappear into the void and never be brought up again. Worst input for gaming ever...

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Місяць тому

      maybe im misunderstanding you but do you suggest we only use mice for 3d games?

    • @beanwithbacon
      @beanwithbacon Місяць тому

      @@coleydotmp4 Yes

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Місяць тому

      @@beanwithbacon well there are people who play on consoles and people with disabilities who need joysticks so... lol

  • @monke9386
    @monke9386 Рік тому +1

    Now win a game of Fortnite with it

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  Рік тому +2

      number one victory royale yeah fortnite we bout to get down (get down) ten kills on the board right now, just wiped out tomato town-

    • @monke9386
      @monke9386 Рік тому

      @@coleydotmp4 typing that should be the typing test for a video where you win a game of Fortnite with it

  • @johnnynguyen9449
    @johnnynguyen9449 Рік тому

    here before 100 likes B)

  • @Marc_Wolfe
    @Marc_Wolfe 5 місяців тому

    hyped garbage

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  5 місяців тому

      whether its garbage or not is up to the individual. hyped? not really, its not THAT talked about... but ok buddy

    • @Marc_Wolfe
      @Marc_Wolfe 5 місяців тому

      It's an analog stick with no granularity. You sure seemed pretty hyped.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  5 місяців тому

      yeah thats fair, i do critique that in the video. at the time of making this, this was a really unique board for under $100 and my main statement was its more of a statement board with a quirky arrow cluster than it is a board worth playing video games with. @@Marc_Wolfe

    • @Marc_Wolfe
      @Marc_Wolfe 5 місяців тому

      yeah, the part where you mentioned that is where I said "WTF" and stopped watching. I'm currently working on digging up code for keyboard, joystick, and a single MIDI pot (for system volume) to throw on a single microcontroller. I'm tired of not having analog for movement; and I like making things. That'll be in a video when I'm done, but you'd have to just build it yourself.

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4  5 місяців тому

      yeah unfortunately custom mx style macro pads can be a bit limited with the controls they tend to include. it can even be hard to find one with a slider. good luck on your project though! maybe the custom handheld community would be a good place to look for a fully functional analogue stick. @@Marc_Wolfe