"In any case, everyone must live up to what truth they have obtained" -Phillipians 3:16 The Father Son and Holy Spirit have perfect knowledge of what anyone and everyone has done in their particular circumstance. It's fair to say they are a perfect judge of what you do with what you're given.
For God to be perfect judge, sins must be punished, so atonement is necessary... So Jesus is THE ONLY way and the overall picture of that is GRACE! And faith is a step in that process.... I hope you dig more into it to understand what I am saying. There is complexity in this manner. Not one line or word can be full explanation. Otherwise it'd never be necessary for Jesus to die for our sins when God can forgive from heaven, this is why Jesus's sacrifice is so important and valuable, and THE only way! Because God is perfect judge and one must be punished for their sins. And Jesus being God, He's infinite and he can take it all if He suffers enough,, imagine how hard it is to punish your own son for the sins of your creation. Unimaginable... Abraham's test was no close to being a match because we are lesser and we can be compromised by God, God doesn't need us, but Abraham needed God so He was more bound and there is more and if you think long and deep enough you will find the meaning of all this...... Remember there is a reason God created the sacrifice and atonement way for Jews, so that one day when Jesus comes they can understand how Jesus is the Sacrifice lamb of the prophecies....... Faith is just a step. Faith is not enough. Grace is a wider concept, I think it includes that Jesus died is also a love and grace thing and grace is not just a separate thing others may think....
@Mauro Leonardo Mondal Punishing someone else for the crimes of another (even if the substitution is voluntary) doesn't really seem like perfect justice. Seems more like a mockery of justice.
@@ioioiotuthat’s where you and the Christian who commented this is wrong, it very clearly states in the Bible many times Jesus is God. Therefore it was not a sacrifice of someone else, it was a self-sacrifice
@@goatpulse2960 That doesn't make it better. Suppose someone rapes your daughter, the judge is ready to send the man to jail, and someone else comes in and says "i'll go to jail instead, i will sacrifice myself", the judge agrees. Will you feel like justice has been done ?
“For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does” (1 Peter 4:6).
A valid, Bible-based response. No scientist ever begins his work de novo; while he works with the methodological questioning of what he has already known he builds on knowledge already achieved and engages in a movement of advance. But it is one of the worst characteristics of theological study, whether in biblical interpretation or in dogmatic formulation - that every scholar nowadays thinks he must start all over again, and too many give the impression that no one ever understood this or that until they came along. Amen.
“Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit. So he went and preached to the spirits in prison- those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.” 1 Peter 3:18-20
@@gawagames7877Well it can’t be fabricated as far as the writing because it dates back to those times. Any piece of paper written is up for debate from any Bible as it is translations from thousands of different scholars and hundreds of kings with different influences. So with your filter on all bibles are fabricated.
@@gawagames7877I don’t believe it’s fabricated. Grew up Buddhist. Became a Christian I have personal experiences why I believe. Since I was a child, I suffered from sleep paralysis. Demonic beings would stab me, choke me, throw me around the room like a ragdoll. A few years ago while I was being held down by several arms that were pulling me into the bed, I called on the name of Jesus Christ and I witnessed these arms let me go instantly. I was curious so I started seeking God. Didn’t know where to start. I read many books and I even almost became a Muslim. Started reading King James, Old Testament, caused me to repent. It was a supernatural and spiritual awakening. couple years ago, I astral projected. Spirit left my body. I walked over to a little boy crouched in the corner of my room. I don’t know why because I’ve never heard this before but these words came out of my mouth. IS JEEE (then I got choked very strongly but I forced out with all my might. I asked IS JESUS CHRIST LORD? The little boy turned into a black smokey figure and flew away. And this all happened before I even read those words. It’s a miracle! And til this day, I am healed from sleep paralysis. Jesus said “But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you“ Matthew 12:28 NKJV I’ve witnessed in many others the casting out of demons in Jesus name (including my daughter) these past few years. I have reason to believe the truth of the Bible because this all happened before I ever read these words Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you’ll be saved. Ephesians 6:12 ”For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.“ Thank you Jesus for His saving Grace. Ephesians 2:8-9 by grace you have been saved through faith, not of works lest anyone should boast. Seperate to the other events, I experienced consciousness in a dark pitch black space, not having any feeling or connection to a body. It was the loneliest place I’ve ever experienced. It was like I was floating in vast endless black space. After seeking for answers, I believe I found it here. ”But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”“ Matthew 8:12 NKJV ”Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’“ Matthew 22:13 NKJV ”And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’“ Matthew 25:30 NKJV ”….while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.“ Jude 1:12-13 NKJV Yea I’m not trying to ever go there ever again
All the examples he gave were of the righteous Old Testament saints. What about the 100-200,000 years of human life? That's a lot of people who never knew Jesus or God's revelation to Israel.
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven. and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of equity, fairness, justice, goodness, and love. Romans 2:15 "They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them." Romans 1:20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Acts 4:11-12 "Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
Chapter VII Of God's Covenant with Man I. The distance between God and the creature is so great, that although reasonable creatures do owe obedience unto him as their Creator, yet they could never have any fruition of him as their blessedness and reward, but by some voluntary condescension on God's part, which he hath been pleased to express by way of covenant.a (a) Isa 40:13-17; Job 9:32-33; Ps 113:5-6; Job 22:2-3; Job 35:7-8; Luke 17:10; Acts 17:24-25 II. The first covenant made with man was a covenant of works,b wherein life was promised to Adam; and in him to his posterity,c upon condition of perfect and personal obedience.d (b) Gen 2:16-17; Hos 6:7; Gal 3:12 (c) Gen 3:22; Rom 10:5; Rom 5:12-14; Rom 5:15-20 (d) Gen 2:17; Gal 3:10 III. Man, by his fall, having made himself uncapable of life by that covenant, the Lord was pleased to make a second,e commonly called the covenant of grace; wherein he freely offereth unto sinners life and salvation by Jesus Christ; requiring of them faith in him, that they may be saved,f and promising to give unto all those that are ordained unto eternal life his Holy Spirit, to make them willing, and able to believe.g (e) Gal 3:21; Rom 3:20-21; Rom 8:3; Gen 3:15; Isa 42:6 (f) John 3:16; Rom 10:6,9; Rev 22:17 (g) Acts 13:48; Ezek 36:26-27; John 6:37,44-45; 1 Cor 12:3 IV. This covenant of grace is frequently set forth in Scripture by the name of a testament, in reference to the death of Jesus Christ the Testator, and to the everlasting inheritance, with all things belonging to it, therein bequeathed.h (h) Heb 9:15-17 V. This covenant was differently administered in the time of the law, and in the time of the gospel:i under the law, it was administered by promises, prophecies, sacrifices, circumcision, the paschal lamb, and other types and ordinances delivered to the people of the Jews, all foresignifying Christ to come;k which were, for that time, sufficient and efficacious, through the operation of the Spirit, to instruct and build up the elect in faith in the promised Messiah,l by whom they had full remission of sins, and eternal salvation; and is called the old testament.m (i) 2 Cor 3:6-9 (k) Heb 8-9; Rom 4:11; Col 2:11-12; 1 Cor 5:7 (l) 1 Cor 10:1-4; Heb 11:13; John 8:56 (m) Gal 3:7-9,14; Ps 32:1-2,5 VI. Under the gospel, when Christ, the substance,n was exhibited, the ordinances in which this covenant is dispensed are the preaching of the Word, and the administration of the sacraments of baptism and the Lord's Supper:o which, though fewer in number, and administered with more simplicity, and less outward glory, yet, in them, it is held forth in more fullness, evidence, and spiritual efficacy,p to all nations, both Jews and Gentiles;q and is called the new testament.r There are not therefore two covenants of grace, differing in substance, but one and the same, under various dispensations.s (n) Col 2:17 (o) 1 Cor 1:21; Matt 28:19-20; 1 Cor 11:23-25 (p) Heb 12:22-24; 2 Cor 3:9-11; Jer 31:33-34 (q) Luke 2:32; Acts 10:34; Eph 2:15-19 (r) Luke 22:20 (s) Gal 3:8-9,14,16; Rom 3:21-22,30; Rom 4:3,6-8; Gen 15:6; Ps 32:1-2; Rom 4:16-17,23-24; Heb 4:2; Rom 10:6-10; 1 Cor 10:3-4
It doesnt make sense bro the answer is that if they believed in one God (the god of thier prophet ) they would go to heaven , and vice versa . God is one and saying jesus died for our sins is a made up story .
He didn t even answer the question lol He talked about the people that lived at the time of abraham but the question was about the people who never heard any revelation Gg christianity
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven. and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of fairness, justice, goodness, and love. Romans 2:15 "They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them." Romans 1:20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Acts 4:11-12 "Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
This is where Jerry Wall's optimal grace theory comes in, I encourage Christians in the comments to look it up and keep an open mind, I think it fits perfectly with God's character
What about say the indigenous people in the Amazon that (were dated to have lived there for 30,000+ years) lived way before Christianity? Or what say never even heard of Christ? Most people lived and died before Christianity was even around. Do they get sent to hell automatically because they lost the lottery on when/where they were born?
Great question. We have good reason to believe from the gospels that God has set out certain rules for our salvation namely belief in him, the sacraments, and obedience to his commands. But God does not have to follow the rules because he created them, so it's likely that those in the undiscovered Americas for example who never heard the Gospel in pursuing God in their own environments were able to join in his grace when they died. 2 things to note is that if God is pure justice and mercy, we will end up in the right place. And secondly, nobody deserves to go to Heaven. Anyone who does go there, does so through the grace of God.
He only answered part of the question. What about those that never heard of Christ? Even today? Example: Some tribe of people that hasn't been found. Know nothing but trees and animals - how to survive. And I know even they worship something. We all have it in us to want to know "Why?" As in "Why are we here?"
@Jim Where does the Bible address this? Or is this just speculation? I ask because I've heard preachers say that people that have never heard of Jesus are going to Hell. Even the remotest tribe that live like ape men. (No, I don't believe in evilution.) Their reason is the only was to be saved is to believe in Jesus. If they don't believe they aren't saved. To me that makes no sense. How can they believe if they've never heard? I don't think anybody knows for sure.
My belief is that even if you've never heard of Christ or the gospel we've all been embedded by God with a moral code. So there's still a sense of right & wrong in every human. With that being said I don't believe that people will get an automatic free pass just because they never heard of Jesus. They will still be judged on how they lived and treated their fellow man & woman. People that have A) heard the true gospel and flat-out rejected it their whole lives B) accepted it then turned away from it and C) claimed to accept it and didn't live accordingly will be held to a much higher standard than those that never heard. People that never heard will be judged by what they did know innately through God's moral code.
@@ohyeah11000 Excellent questions! One answer that has given me some insight is that of Natural Revelation and Special Revelation. Natural Revelation is knowing that God exists because His attributes can be seen through nature (Romans 1:20). So perhaps one's honest pursuit to know the Creator could be seen as one's faith in God like many in the OT had their faith placed on the Messiah that was to come. Special Revelation is through the person of Jesus having manifested Himself in the flesh. So those during Christ and after believe in Him who had come and fulfilled God's perfect plan of redemption. One's faith is placed in God's promise to come and the other is placed in that which came. It's difficult to understand but I think that's an interesting thought to consider and possibly even start from, if plausible.
@@inmyhumbleopinion_ BUT can someone that has never heard of Jesus be saved? Which means go to Heaven and not Hell? The Bible seems to says no. "There is only one name by which man may be saved." But they've never heard it. You indicate proper judgement, but that doesn't mean salvation. Just means harsher and lesser penalties.
@Jim "Ever heard the old saying ignorance of the law is no excuse? The Lord does not do that to us." What does this mean: "There is only one name by which man may be saved." But they don't know the name. Never heard it. Seems to me if they've never heard the name they can't be saved. I'm just trying to understand. I think this is one of those things I'll never know for sure. Not till I go Home. But thanks for your response.
*_Revelation 13.13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666._* *_Matthew 11.28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."_* *_Luke 19.10 for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”_* _Only Jesus Christ saves. Repent and be saved. Jesus Christ loves you. God bless you, and peace be upon you and your family in the name of Jesus Christ..._
So what? Do you think some atheists are going to fly in here and soil the video? The poo they will deposit will be wiped away with the rest of the dirt.
But Abraham, David, Moses did not believe ON JESUS. That's the important distinction. Were they saved by believing God's other promises but not specifically on the atonement of Christ? I believe the just shall live by His faithfulness (Habakkuk 2.5). I believe in righteousness by faithfulness. God's faithfulness. So, then, God's people are saved because of His commitment to us, His unwavering faithfulness. It is only revealed in our faith.
How does Craig's answer remotely suffice the question? Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: In the grave who shall give thee thanks? Eph 2:12 ... ye were strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. How could strangers have had any conscious knowledge outside of the revelation of God given to Abraham's and his descendants? Do better DrCraig.
He doesn't do a good job of explaining this one. The Old Testament Patriarchs were in Sheol (Hebrew for the afterlife) before Christ. At the second coming of Christ, the dead (including Old Testament Patriarchs) will be resurrected. If the second coming was in 70 AD then the resurrection of the dead took place in 70 AD.
His answer does not address the question at all. What of those who died before Christ? Now, today when someone hears of the sacrifice of Christ for them they can choose to believe it or deny it. If they deny it altogether then they are not saved and we know from reading the Bible that to go heaven we do so through Christ and Christ alone- not by deeds or anything else. So, the old testament people had no Christ who had died for their sins because it hadn't happened yet. They did not get to hear of the Gospels of Christ life. They did not get to be told that you can be forgiven completely and that a sinless man came and died for you to have an eternal life with God. This is a big problem with Christianity. I have just started researching this topic myself and I have yet to find any sort of answer that makes any sense whatsoever. Jesus did not say that there was any other way to get to the father. If there were some other form used to judge those who lived prior to Christ then it is very logical to concede that Christ would have addressed that. However, HE DID NOT. At least from what I have read, did he ever mention those who died before him and them going to the father in any other way. The Bible is very clear that the only way to God is through Christ. Any explanation that suggests some other standard was used for those people who lived and died prior to Christ would absolutely contradict what we know that the Bible teaches us. The other problem that Christianity has is addressing the reality that there are those who have lived and died, after Christ came and died, and weren't afforded an opportunity to know Christ. The Bible tells us that the Gospels will be preached to all 4 corners of the Earth. I'm not saying this is an absolute, but given that there are those who died with no knowledge of Christ's sacrifice, it sincerely makes me wonder if there may be another opportunity at salvation/ forgiveness AFTER each individual life here on Earth. Let me say again, I'm not saying this is absolute and I'm not suggesting anybody put their money on black and think that such is the case. But, if you consider this, for example, those who have been murdered who have had their lives cut short than intended and if you consider babies who were aborted like my twin siblings and children who have been killed and didn't have the mind to fully understand what Christ did and be able to make that decision as to whether or not they wanted to accept Him as Lord and Savior it then would not be hard to consider that it's possible that they have an opportunity to receive Christ as Lord and Savior. I do believe that Christ died for our sins and that his overcame all sin on the cross so I do believe he died for EVERYBODY who has ever lived and will ever live. The issue, for me, comes down to explaining how EVERYBODY is afforded an opportunity at forgiveness when so many souls have died without the opportunity to know of Christ and his sacrifice. And, I would also argue, that those who died prior to Christ weren't afforded an opportunity at FAITH in the crucificion and the resurrection which are BOTH equally paramount, in my opinion, to understand so that one can choose to have the faith in those things that have not and yet to be seen.
Think about the fact that, God still sees our hearts regardless of when we were born, he can still see what we would have done with the information. so what exactly happened to them? i don’t know, but god is the ultimate judge, and he is a fair god.
Would it be possible to say that since all mankind has a common origin in Adam, those coming from and after Adam would have been informed about God from the beginning of humanity? So,in a sense, all of mankind would have had an awareness/ handed down knowledge of God, but drifted from Him.
Dmboola is a native African pygmy from the region now called the Republic of Congo, the year is 200BC. Dmboola is married according to native culture and tradition and has a family. Occasionally he has lustful thoughts about his neighbors young wife but does not progress those feelings into actions because of tribal taboos and laws, the tribe has their own Gods and Demons After his death Dmboola is brought up before a Middle Eastern God who tells him he must burn in Hell and be tortured for eternity for breaking a commandment he has never heard of, written by a God he has never heard of and who tells him that he loves him, He is a little confused.
What happens to those people who never got the chance to introduce their land or country in the bible, does that mean they’re all went in hell? What about those people who lived in asia, japan, philippines etc?
According to the Bible, the Jews believed in the one True God. But according to Paul ( in Romans Chapter 11 ) because they rejected Christ when He came they were cut off and not saved. Therefore, having faith in the one true God or even believing in God through nature and conscience does not guarantee salvation.
They knew that Christ would come (abraham rejoiced to see My day,and he saw it and was glad) old testament were saved by faith in the messiah coming, new testament are saved by faith the messiah has came . Jn 8/56
The scriptures say the righteous and unrighteous will be resurrected. (Acts 24:15) And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. It is Jehovah God's intent to judge people under his righteous new kingdom after they have been made perfect like Adam. With exception to a few people most will be given a second chance at life without Satan and his demons.
@@drcraigvideos "What is he making up?" - most of what he said. People in the time of Abraham believed in the revelation that was given to them, and the benefits of Christ's atoning blood were applied to them even though they had no knowledge of Jesus. Where is he getting this from? There is no indication in the Old Testament of this concept of going to heaven after death, so no Jews in the time of (the mythical) Abraham believed that everybody was heading for heaven or hell. The idea that they would wake up in heaven to be told they had achieved their eternal reward because they had been washed of their sin by a man who did not exist yet, but would die for them in the future is nonsensical. However, that is what WLC is saying. The New Testament does not address this conundrum either. If it did, then WLC would have quoted it, although other apologists have attempted to pull a verse or two out of Paul's epistles and twist it to answer the question, the argument is made out of his head. To be fair, at least WLC does not claim to be a modern day Prophet like fraudsters such as Kenneth Copeland etc, but he still likes to speak with an assumed authority on such matters. Although it might be said that his knowledge of Christian theology allows him to do so, he is just voicing an opinion. By not claiming that what he says is biblical also means he avoids having to prove that the bible is an inerrant source of God's word as well, which can't be done. I still maintain that he sounds as if he was making much of what he said up as he went along, although he suggests he has answered the point before, so may be repeating something he previously said. It sounds like a politician's answer, rather than a deeply held philosophical belief. In other words, it provides an articulate and authoritative answer to the question, without really addressing it properly. Another example of WLC doing this can also be found on UA-cam when he answers the question about the morality of the Israelites killing all of the Canaanite children as commaned by God in the OT. He actually said that "THIS WAS KINDEST THING THAT THEY COULD DO FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE GONE STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN, WHICH WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY HAD GROWN UP IN A PAGAN SOCIETY". Apart from being one of the most disgusting excuses for child murder that I had ever heard, I also thought that anybody that knows him should never let William Lane-Craig babysit their children!!!
@@93Current //People in the time of Abraham believed in the revelation that was given to them, and the benefits of Christ's atoning blood were applied to them even though they had no knowledge of Jesus. Where is he getting this from?// Certainly, some were saved with no knowledge of Jesus. See for example Romans 4:9 and Hebrews 11. //There is no indication in the Old Testament of this concept of going to heaven after death, so no Jews in the time of (the mythical) Abraham believed that everybody was heading for heaven or hell.// First, why think that Abraham was "mythical"? Second, the ancient Jews did believe in a resurrection of the dead to life and immortality. So, even if they didn't believe in "going to heaven" (an erroneous view of the end times) or "going to hell" (a doctrine not explicated in those times), this does nothing to undermine the claim that the benefits of Christ's atonement could be applied to them because of their faith. //By not claiming that what he says is biblical also means he avoids having to prove that the bible is an inerrant source of God's word as well, which can't be done.// Why think that his position is predicated on biblical inerrancy? Did he ever make that claim? //Apart from being one of the most disgusting excuses for child murder that I had ever heard, I also thought that anybody that knows him should never let William Lane-Craig babysit their children!!!// Incredulity isn't an argument. - RF Admin
@@drcraigvideos How is it that you keep missing the point? It is not about whether you agree with anything that I say, as I don't necessarily expect you particularly would. However, you just have a disingenuous knee-jerk misunderstanding of everything I say. Very odd. Anyway, briefly; 1. The point I made was that WLC just sounded as if he was making it up as he went along with a lot of puffed up guff about the blood of Jesus being retrospectively applied to the people in the time of Abraham etc. Yes, Paul says that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness, but is that what WLC is saying here? No, it isn't. 2. I think Abraham is mythical because that is the consensus of historical scholars. If you had said that this was not a particularly relevant point, then I would have had to agree with you that this was a separate argument as we were talking generally about the faithful who lived well before Jesus. Oddly, you just asked why he was mythical. 3. The Jews had a vague notion about the resurrection of the dead at the end of time, but as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten." The story of Job also makes no sense if we introduce the concept of the afterlife. Satan would have just said to God, "Of course he's remaining faithful. He's worried about what will happen to him in eternity." But he doesn't. The focus is just on what happens to him in this life. To say this does nothing to undermine the benefits of Christ's retrospective atonement doesn't really seem to make sense, or Satan would have surely said so. 4. I don't think WLC's position is based on biblical inerrancy. I made it clear that it wasn't, as I said his position seemed based on an assumed authority that made it sound to me as if he was making up his rhetoric as he went along. 5. "Incredulity isn't an argument." I never said that it was. I mentioned this statement from WLC about the genocide of the Canaanite children as another example of how he will answer some questions as if he is making it up as he goes along. I was incredulous at such an appalling argument justifying the slaughter of children from an acclaimed apologist who I would have expected would have thought about his position on many of these questions. Again, you seemed to totally miss the point.
@@93Current //Yes, Paul says that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness, but is that what WLC is saying here? No, it isn't.// No, not in this two minute clip. But he does say it here: www.reasonablefaith.org/podcasts/defenders-podcast-series-2/s2-doctrine-of-salvation/doctrine-of-salvation-part-11. This is why we respond to video comments. Short videos introduce topics, but we often have to point people in the direction of additional resources because they ask questions or raise objections, as you've done here. //I think Abraham is mythical because that is the consensus of historical scholars.// Do you have a survey which supports this claim? //The Jews had a vague notion about the resurrection of the dead at the end of time, but as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten."// Of course, this passage is entirely compatible with a belief in the resurrection of the dead. //The story of Job also makes no sense if we introduce the concept of the afterlife. Satan would have just said to God, "Of course he's remaining faithful. He's worried about what will happen to him in eternity." But he doesn't. The focus is just on what happens to him in this life. To say this does nothing to undermine the benefits of Christ's retrospective atonement doesn't really seem to make sense, or Satan would have surely said so.// This misses the point of the story, which was God's faithfulness to Job and Job's faithfulness to God. Satan is the enemy of God and purposed to turn Job away from God. Had Job in fact turned away from God, he would have shown himself unfaithful and not been called "steadfast" in the Epistle of James. Who else does James mention? Abraham and his faith being counted to him as righteousness. //I don't think WLC's position is based on biblical inerrancy. I made it clear that it wasn't, as I said his position seemed based on an assumed authority that made it sound to me as if he was making up his rhetoric as he went along.// So, your argument is that he didn't mention biblical inerrancy in a two minute clip because he's avoiding the task of defending biblical inerrancy and wants the latitude to just make stuff up as he goes? If that's the case, then you simply aren't familiar enough with his work, particularly his Defenders theology class, where he both defends biblical inerrancy and supplies biblical support for his positions. //I was incredulous at such an appalling argument justifying the slaughter of children from an acclaimed apologist who I would have expected would have thought about his position on many of these questions.// So do you have an actual rebuttal to his point or no? - RF Admin
﴿اقتَرَبَ لِلنّاسِ حِسابُهُم وَهُم في غَفلَةٍ مُعرِضونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ١] [The time of] their account has approached for the people, while they are in heedlessness turning away. - Saheeh International ﴿ما يَأتيهِم مِن ذِكرٍ مِن رَبِّهِم مُحدَثٍ إِلَّا استَمَعوهُ وَهُم يَلعَبونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢] No mention [i.e., revelation] comes to them anew from their Lord except that they listen to it while they are at play - Saheeh International ﴿لاهِيَةً قُلوبُهُم وَأَسَرُّوا النَّجوَى الَّذينَ ظَلَموا هَل هذا إِلّا بَشَرٌ مِثلُكُم أَفَتَأتونَ السِّحرَ وَأَنتُم تُبصِرونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣] With their hearts distracted. And those who do wrong conceal their private conversation, [saying], "Is this [Prophet] except a human being like you? So would you approach magic while you are aware [of it]?" - Saheeh International ﴿قالَ رَبّي يَعلَمُ القَولَ فِي السَّماءِ وَالأَرضِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٤] He [the Prophet (ﷺ)] said, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing." - Saheeh International ﴿قالَ رَبّي يَعلَمُ القَولَ فِي السَّماءِ وَالأَرضِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٤] He [the Prophet (ﷺ)] said, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing." - Saheeh International ﴿بَل قالوا أَضغاثُ أَحلامٍ بَلِ افتَراهُ بَل هُوَ شاعِرٌ فَليَأتِنا بِآيَةٍ كَما أُرسِلَ الأَوَّلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٥] But they say, "[The revelation is but] a mixture of false dreams; rather, he has invented it; rather, he is a poet. So let him bring us a sign just as the previous [messengers] were sent [with miracles]." - Saheeh International ﴿ما آمَنَت قَبلَهُم مِن قَريَةٍ أَهلَكناها أَفَهُم يُؤمِنونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٦] Not a [single] city which We destroyed believed before them, so will they believe? - Saheeh International ﴿وَما أَرسَلنا قَبلَكَ إِلّا رِجالًا نوحي إِلَيهِم فَاسأَلوا أَهلَ الذِّكرِ إِن كُنتُم لا تَعلَمونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٧] And We sent not before you, [O Muḥammad], except men to whom We revealed [the message], so ask the people of the message [i.e., former scriptures] if you do not know. - Saheeh International ﴿وَما جَعَلناهُم جَسَدًا لا يَأكُلونَ الطَّعامَ وَما كانوا خالِدينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٨] And We did not make them [i.e., the prophets] forms not eating food, nor were they immortal [on earth]. - Saheeh International ﴿ثُمَّ صَدَقناهُمُ الوَعدَ فَأَنجَيناهُم وَمَن نَشاءُ وَأَهلَكنَا المُسرِفينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٩] Then We fulfilled for them the promise, and We saved them and whom We willed and destroyed the transgressors. - Saheeh International ﴿لَقَد أَنزَلنا إِلَيكُم كِتابًا فيهِ ذِكرُكُم أَفَلا تَعقِلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ١٠] We have certainly sent down to you a Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] in which is your mention. Then will you not reason? - Saheeh International ﴿وَما أَرسَلنا مِن قَبلِكَ مِن رَسولٍ إِلّا نوحي إِلَيهِ أَنَّهُ لا إِلهَ إِلّا أَنا فَاعبُدونِ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٥] And We sent not before you any messenger except We revealed to him that, "There is no deity except Me, so worship Me." - Saheeh International ﴿وَقالُوا اتَّخَذَ الرَّحمنُ وَلَدًا سُبحانَهُ بَل عِبادٌ مُكرَمونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٦] And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, they are [but] honored servants. - Saheeh International ﴿لا يَسبِقونَهُ بِالقَولِ وَهُم بِأَمرِهِ يَعمَلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٧] They cannot precede Him in word, and they act by His command. - Saheeh International ﴿يَعلَمُ ما بَينَ أَيديهِم وَما خَلفَهُم وَلا يَشفَعونَ إِلّا لِمَنِ ارتَضى وَهُم مِن خَشيَتِهِ مُشفِقونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٨] He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they cannot intercede except on behalf of one whom He approves. And they, from fear of Him, are apprehensive. - Saheeh International ﴿وَمَن يَقُل مِنهُم إِنّي إِلهٌ مِن دونِهِ فَذلِكَ نَجزيهِ جَهَنَّمَ كَذلِكَ نَجزِي الظّالِمينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٩] And whoever of them should say, "Indeed, I am a god besides Him" - that one We would recompense with Hell. Thus do We recompense the wrongdoers. - Saheeh International ﴿وَمَن يَقُل مِنهُم إِنّي إِلهٌ مِن دونِهِ فَذلِكَ نَجزيهِ جَهَنَّمَ كَذلِكَ نَجزِي الظّالِمينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٩] And whoever of them should say, "Indeed, I am a god besides Him" - that one We would recompense with Hell. Thus do We recompense the wrongdoers. - Saheeh International ﴿أَوَلَم يَرَ الَّذينَ كَفَروا أَنَّ السَّماواتِ وَالأَرضَ كانَتا رَتقًا فَفَتَقناهُما وَجَعَلنا مِنَ الماءِ كُلَّ شَيءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلا يُؤمِنونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٠] Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? - Saheeh International ﴿وَجَعَلنا فِي الأَرضِ رَواسِيَ أَن تَميدَ بِهِم وَجَعَلنا فيها فِجاجًا سُبُلًا لَعَلَّهُم يَهتَدونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣١] And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided. - Saheeh International ﴿وَجَعَلنَا السَّماءَ سَقفًا مَحفوظًا وَهُم عَن آياتِها مُعرِضونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٢] And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away. - Saheeh International ﴿وَهُوَ الَّذي خَلَقَ اللَّيلَ وَالنَّهارَ وَالشَّمسَ وَالقَمَرَ كُلٌّ في فَلَكٍ يَسبَحونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٣] And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming. - Saheeh International
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven. and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of fairness, justice, goodness, and love. Romans 2:15 "They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them." Romans 1:20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Acts 4:11-12 "Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
What if I don't have a rich uncle Dr. Craig? Just joking, I still like and understand your analogy. :) :) :) (P.S. I really don't have any rich uncles nor rich relatives for that matter, but I'm thankful for your analogies.)
Where’s the proof they had credit before Christ. People can throw a cross on and make up anything and there’s always some lost person that’s gonna take it at face value.
That doesn’t make sense because god destroyed the world because of sin. And was upset with ppl that didn’t believe in Moses word. So idk about that. That would just mean they were all exempt just to prove to us to believe in Christ?
Everyone has the same power of Jesus the lie is that Jesus was the only one when we are all fully capable … we are all children of the same being … let’s use our brain
He never answered the question. The question was not about people who had heard "God's revelations" it was about people who had not. The common false belief is that they are all going to burn in hell. The Bible says otherwise. These people will be resurrected on earth and given a chance to learn about God and Jesus to once again live on earth but this time forever. He know this but does not want to admit it because it goes against what he preaches.
Free will is the ability to make a choice. The actions that follow are already predetermined due to the moral foundation on which the choice is made. No action is unique and the choice on which it is founded will play itself out through said choice. That’s why God says in Matthew 12:30 “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” Also, in John 8:44 When he says: 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. In conclusion, because you have CHOSEN to follow Satan YOU WILL lie because those are the actions that follow the choice you’ve made. :)
@@mathewlanier8352 "Free will is the ability to make a choice." That's all you really needed to say. Another question: Do you have "free will?" OR "Do we have "free will?"" We either have it or we don't. One or the other. Just like "You're either for me or against me." OR You can't be a little pregnant. You either are or you're not. No middle ground. FYI I do not follow Satan. I am a young earth creationists and do not believe in evilution. So if you have a question about my faith I hope that answers it. I just have a handful of thing I ponder and once in a while try to find answers. Free will is a tough one. Really need to think about what it truly is and what it truly means. What would one have to be to have "free will?" * I don't say "100% free will" because it really cannot be less than that to have. If you have 50% (or any number less than 100) free will you have none. One "good work" can void any amount of faith, if you decide to depend on that instead of Jesus. Just another example of "one or the other." But if someone has faith they know good works don't save. "Good works" are the result of salvation, not a requirement. Looking foreword to your answers. Hope you can help me understand.
@@ohyeah11000 I personally believe we have free will. But I do see what you're saying, are we free or pre determined? Be like a programmer programming a robot to flip burgers, which would be it's predetermined function. But let's say this burger flipping robot decided one day it would make french fries, then it would be breaking it's predetermined function and therefore have free will. Same is like people, I believe we have a predetermined function for what we're meant for, my belief is it's God. But you see, sin, or evil is the thing that makes it so we break pre determined functions because that stuff is not intended for God's kingdom etc. Hopefully this helped, im always down for friendly conversation.😊
@@mathewlanier8352 When I think of the words "free" and "will" I think "at no cost" (free) and "what you would do or have done" (will). Seems to me "freewill" would (or should) mean "Do what you want and it will cost you nothing." But we cannot do that because we have a "sin nature." We often want to do the wrong things knowing they're wrong because of this sin nature. If we didn't have a sin nature we could do anything we ant because we wouldn't want to do anything wrong (sinful). Doesn't mean we wouldn't make mistakes. Just means we wouldn't curse when we do. (Just an example.) I don't understand how we can have "freewill" when we ae bound by the shackles of sin. Even bigger question here: I'm a sinner because I inherited a sin nature from Adam. Is it MY fault I inherited this sin nature from Adam? I it your fault you inherited a sin nature from Adam? Is it anybody's fault they are sinners? If it is not our fault we are sinners, why are we judged for our sins? How can we be? It's not our fault. This is something I have grappled with for years. Hope someone can explain it to where I can understand it.
First, your soul will leave your body, and this is very painful for those who do not believe in God. Secondly, you will know that Allah's is the true God, and that Islam is the true religion. Heaven is real and hell is real. Read carefully about Islam and you will know goodness from evil.
"In any case, everyone must live up to what truth they have obtained"
-Phillipians 3:16
The Father Son and Holy Spirit have perfect knowledge of what anyone and everyone has done in their particular circumstance. It's fair to say they are a perfect judge of what you do with what you're given.
A good explanation of the verse “we are saved by grace THROUGH faith” awesome :)
For God to be perfect judge, sins must be punished, so atonement is necessary...
So Jesus is THE ONLY way and the overall picture of that is GRACE! And faith is a step in that process.... I hope you dig more into it to understand what I am saying. There is complexity in this manner. Not one line or word can be full explanation. Otherwise it'd never be necessary for Jesus to die for our sins when God can forgive from heaven, this is why Jesus's sacrifice is so important and valuable, and THE only way! Because God is perfect judge and one must be punished for their sins. And Jesus being God, He's infinite and he can take it all if He suffers enough,, imagine how hard it is to punish your own son for the sins of your creation. Unimaginable... Abraham's test was no close to being a match because we are lesser and we can be compromised by God, God doesn't need us, but Abraham needed God so He was more bound and there is more and if you think long and deep enough you will find the meaning of all this......
Remember there is a reason God created the sacrifice and atonement way for Jews, so that one day when Jesus comes they can understand how Jesus is the Sacrifice lamb of the prophecies.......
Faith is just a step. Faith is not enough. Grace is a wider concept, I think it includes that Jesus died is also a love and grace thing and grace is not just a separate thing others may think....
@Mauro Leonardo Mondal Punishing someone else for the crimes of another (even if the substitution is voluntary) doesn't really seem like perfect justice. Seems more like a mockery of justice.
@@ioioiotu thank you … it’s not god like at all …
@@ioioiotuthat’s where you and the Christian who commented this is wrong, it very clearly states in the Bible many times Jesus is God. Therefore it was not a sacrifice of someone else, it was a self-sacrifice
@@goatpulse2960 That doesn't make it better. Suppose someone rapes your daughter, the judge is ready to send the man to jail, and someone else comes in and says "i'll go to jail instead, i will sacrifice myself", the judge agrees. Will you feel like justice has been done ?
Dr Craig, whoever is doing your marketing is doing a great job. I love the new intro and the music. Great stuff!
“For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does” (1 Peter 4:6).
A valid, Bible-based response.
No scientist ever begins his work de novo; while he works with the methodological questioning of what he has already known he builds on knowledge already achieved and engages in a movement of advance.
But it is one of the worst characteristics of theological study, whether in biblical interpretation or in dogmatic formulation - that every scholar nowadays thinks he must start all over again, and too many give the impression that no one ever understood this or that until they came along.
Amen.
Agreed
“Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit. So he went and preached to the spirits in prison- those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.”
1 Peter 3:18-20
Well Jesus did kill a boy in the old testaments … but he raised him from the dead
@@BBoldGaming Are you talking about that one fabricated bible book? The one where kid Jesus kills a boy and revives him?
@@gawagames7877Well it can’t be fabricated as far as the writing because it dates back to those times. Any piece of paper written is up for debate from any Bible as it is translations from thousands of different scholars and hundreds of kings with different influences.
So with your filter on all bibles are fabricated.
@@gawagames7877I don’t believe it’s fabricated. Grew up Buddhist. Became a Christian
I have personal experiences why I believe. Since I was a child, I suffered from sleep paralysis. Demonic beings would stab me, choke me, throw me around the room like a ragdoll. A few years ago while I was being held down by several arms that were pulling me into the bed, I called on the name of Jesus Christ and I witnessed these arms let me go instantly. I was curious so I started seeking God. Didn’t know where to start. I read many books and I even almost became a Muslim. Started reading King James, Old Testament, caused me to repent. It was a supernatural and spiritual awakening. couple years ago, I astral projected. Spirit left my body. I walked over to a little boy crouched in the corner of my room. I don’t know why because I’ve never heard this before but these words came out of my mouth. IS JEEE (then I got choked very strongly but I forced out with all my might. I asked IS JESUS CHRIST LORD? The little boy turned into a black smokey figure and flew away. And this all happened before I even read those words. It’s a miracle! And til this day, I am healed from sleep paralysis. Jesus said “But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you“
Matthew 12:28 NKJV
I’ve witnessed in many others the casting out of demons in Jesus name (including my daughter) these past few years.
I have reason to believe the truth of the Bible because this all happened before I ever read these words
Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you’ll be saved.
Ephesians 6:12 ”For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.“
Thank you Jesus for His saving Grace.
Ephesians 2:8-9 by grace you have been saved through faith, not of works lest anyone should boast.
Seperate to the other events, I experienced consciousness in a dark pitch black space, not having any feeling or connection to a body. It was the loneliest place I’ve ever experienced. It was like I was floating in vast endless black space. After seeking for answers, I believe I found it here.
”But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”“
Matthew 8:12 NKJV
”Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’“
Matthew 22:13 NKJV
”And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’“
Matthew 25:30 NKJV
”….while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.“
Jude 1:12-13 NKJV
Yea I’m not trying to ever go there ever again
Liked the analogy! God bless you👍
JOHN 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth shall draw all men unto myself.
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All the examples he gave were of the righteous Old Testament saints. What about the 100-200,000 years of human life? That's a lot of people who never knew Jesus or God's revelation to Israel.
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven.
and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of equity, fairness, justice, goodness, and love.
Romans 2:15
"They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them."
Romans 1:20
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
Acts 4:11-12
"Jesus is
“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
Chapter VII
Of God's Covenant with Man
I. The distance between God and the creature is so great, that although reasonable creatures do owe obedience unto him as their Creator, yet they could never have any fruition of him as their blessedness and reward, but by some voluntary condescension on God's part, which he hath been pleased to express by way of covenant.a
(a) Isa 40:13-17; Job 9:32-33; Ps 113:5-6; Job 22:2-3; Job 35:7-8; Luke 17:10; Acts 17:24-25
II. The first covenant made with man was a covenant of works,b wherein life was promised to Adam; and in him to his posterity,c upon condition of perfect and personal obedience.d
(b) Gen 2:16-17; Hos 6:7; Gal 3:12
(c) Gen 3:22; Rom 10:5; Rom 5:12-14; Rom 5:15-20
(d) Gen 2:17; Gal 3:10
III. Man, by his fall, having made himself uncapable of life by that covenant, the Lord was pleased to make a second,e commonly called the covenant of grace; wherein he freely offereth unto sinners life and salvation by Jesus Christ; requiring of them faith in him, that they may be saved,f and promising to give unto all those that are ordained unto eternal life his Holy Spirit, to make them willing, and able to believe.g
(e) Gal 3:21; Rom 3:20-21; Rom 8:3; Gen 3:15; Isa 42:6
(f) John 3:16; Rom 10:6,9; Rev 22:17
(g) Acts 13:48; Ezek 36:26-27; John 6:37,44-45; 1 Cor 12:3
IV. This covenant of grace is frequently set forth in Scripture by the name of a testament, in reference to the death of Jesus Christ the Testator, and to the everlasting inheritance, with all things belonging to it, therein bequeathed.h
(h) Heb 9:15-17
V. This covenant was differently administered in the time of the law, and in the time of the gospel:i under the law, it was administered by promises, prophecies, sacrifices, circumcision, the paschal lamb, and other types and ordinances delivered to the people of the Jews, all foresignifying Christ to come;k which were, for that time, sufficient and efficacious, through the operation of the Spirit, to instruct and build up the elect in faith in the promised Messiah,l by whom they had full remission of sins, and eternal salvation; and is called the old testament.m
(i) 2 Cor 3:6-9
(k) Heb 8-9; Rom 4:11; Col 2:11-12; 1 Cor 5:7
(l) 1 Cor 10:1-4; Heb 11:13; John 8:56
(m) Gal 3:7-9,14; Ps 32:1-2,5
VI. Under the gospel, when Christ, the substance,n was exhibited, the ordinances in which this covenant is dispensed are the preaching of the Word, and the administration of the sacraments of baptism and the Lord's Supper:o which, though fewer in number, and administered with more simplicity, and less outward glory, yet, in them, it is held forth in more fullness, evidence, and spiritual efficacy,p to all nations, both Jews and Gentiles;q and is called the new testament.r There are not therefore two covenants of grace, differing in substance, but one and the same, under various dispensations.s
(n) Col 2:17
(o) 1 Cor 1:21; Matt 28:19-20; 1 Cor 11:23-25
(p) Heb 12:22-24; 2 Cor 3:9-11; Jer 31:33-34
(q) Luke 2:32; Acts 10:34; Eph 2:15-19
(r) Luke 22:20
(s) Gal 3:8-9,14,16; Rom 3:21-22,30; Rom 4:3,6-8; Gen 15:6; Ps 32:1-2; Rom 4:16-17,23-24; Heb 4:2; Rom 10:6-10; 1 Cor 10:3-4
Wow!!! What a great explanation! Makes sense all the way!
You must be kidding. that was the most ridiculous answer I could fathom.
A man made answer that didn’t come from scripture
It doesnt make sense bro
the answer is that if they believed in one God (the god of thier prophet ) they would go to heaven , and vice versa .
God is one and saying jesus died for our sins is a made up story .
For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22.
He didn t even answer the question lol
He talked about the people that lived at the time of abraham but the question was about the people who never heard any revelation
Gg christianity
Whats your worldview?
Don't expect to find good answers from WLC, the only thing he is good at is avoiding questions with circular reasoning.
Exactly when you search this topic all you find is abraham and nothing before that
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven.
and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of fairness, justice, goodness, and love.
Romans 2:15
"They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them."
Romans 1:20
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
Acts 4:11-12
"Jesus is
“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
No one can die "before Christ." He is God their Creator "in the beginning."
You have completely misunderstood the question
true
Illiterate
I wonder what the source is of Dr. Craig's assertion.
@ Thank you for your answer.
l didn't really understand this if humans have burth sin and whiteout Christ they cannot be saved what happened to the humans before him
Christ's atonement for sins worked in a retroactive way
This is where Jerry Wall's optimal grace theory comes in, I encourage Christians in the comments to look it up and keep an open mind, I think it fits perfectly with God's character
What about say the indigenous people in the Amazon that (were dated to have lived there for 30,000+ years) lived way before Christianity? Or what say never even heard of Christ? Most people lived and died before Christianity was even around. Do they get sent to hell automatically because they lost the lottery on when/where they were born?
Great question. We have good reason to believe from the gospels that God has set out certain rules for our salvation namely belief in him, the sacraments, and obedience to his commands. But God does not have to follow the rules because he created them, so it's likely that those in the undiscovered Americas for example who never heard the Gospel in pursuing God in their own environments were able to join in his grace when they died. 2 things to note is that if God is pure justice and mercy, we will end up in the right place. And secondly, nobody deserves to go to Heaven. Anyone who does go there, does so through the grace of God.
He only answered part of the question.
What about those that never heard of Christ? Even today?
Example: Some tribe of people that hasn't been found. Know nothing but trees and animals - how to survive.
And I know even they worship something. We all have it in us to want to know "Why?"
As in "Why are we here?"
@Jim
Where does the Bible address this?
Or is this just speculation?
I ask because I've heard preachers say that people that have never heard of Jesus are going to Hell.
Even the remotest tribe that live like ape men. (No, I don't believe in evilution.)
Their reason is the only was to be saved is to believe in Jesus.
If they don't believe they aren't saved.
To me that makes no sense. How can they believe if they've never heard?
I don't think anybody knows for sure.
My belief is that even if you've never heard of Christ or the gospel we've all been embedded by God with a moral code. So there's still a sense of right & wrong in every human.
With that being said I don't believe that people will get an automatic free pass just because they never heard of Jesus.
They will still be judged on how they lived and treated their fellow man & woman.
People that have A) heard the true gospel and flat-out rejected it their whole lives B) accepted it then turned away from it and C) claimed to accept it and didn't live accordingly will be held to a much higher standard than those that never heard.
People that never heard will be judged by what they did know innately through God's moral code.
@@ohyeah11000 Excellent questions! One answer that has given me some insight is that of Natural Revelation and Special Revelation. Natural Revelation is knowing that God exists because His attributes can be seen through nature (Romans 1:20). So perhaps one's honest pursuit to know the Creator could be seen as one's faith in God like many in the OT had their faith placed on the Messiah that was to come. Special Revelation is through the person of Jesus having manifested Himself in the flesh. So those during Christ and after believe in Him who had come and fulfilled God's perfect plan of redemption. One's faith is placed in God's promise to come and the other is placed in that which came. It's difficult to understand but I think that's an interesting thought to consider and possibly even start from, if plausible.
@@inmyhumbleopinion_
BUT can someone that has never heard of Jesus be saved? Which means go to Heaven and not Hell?
The Bible seems to says no.
"There is only one name by which man may be saved."
But they've never heard it.
You indicate proper judgement, but that doesn't mean salvation. Just means harsher and lesser penalties.
@Jim
"Ever heard the old saying ignorance of the law is no excuse? The Lord does not do that to us."
What does this mean:
"There is only one name by which man may be saved."
But they don't know the name. Never heard it.
Seems to me if they've never heard the name they can't be saved.
I'm just trying to understand. I think this is one of those things I'll never know for sure. Not till I go Home.
But thanks for your response.
*_Revelation 13.13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666._*
*_Matthew 11.28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."_*
*_Luke 19.10 for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”_*
_Only Jesus Christ saves. Repent and be saved. Jesus Christ loves you. God bless you, and peace be upon you and your family in the name of Jesus Christ..._
Lol they forgot to disable comments
So what? Do you think some atheists are going to fly in here and soil the video? The poo they will deposit will be wiped away with the rest of the dirt.
I don't want them disabled! Lol
@Atheism Is A Hate Crime God's existence is impossible.
I think all the new videos have comments enabled.
Atheism Is A Hate Crime pplmll
But Abraham, David, Moses did not believe ON JESUS. That's the important distinction. Were they saved by believing God's other promises but not specifically on the atonement of Christ?
I believe the just shall live by His faithfulness (Habakkuk 2.5). I believe in righteousness by faithfulness. God's faithfulness. So, then, God's people are saved because of His commitment to us, His unwavering faithfulness. It is only revealed in our faith.
Nice
How does Craig's answer remotely suffice the question?
Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: In the grave who shall give thee thanks?
Eph 2:12 ... ye were strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world.
How could strangers have had any conscious knowledge outside of the revelation of God given to Abraham's and his descendants?
Do better DrCraig.
Great topic! I've heard different views but WLC does a great job explaining.
He doesn't do a good job of explaining this one. The Old Testament Patriarchs were in Sheol (Hebrew for the afterlife) before Christ. At the second coming of Christ, the dead (including Old Testament Patriarchs) will be resurrected. If the second coming was in 70 AD then the resurrection of the dead took place in 70 AD.
@@70AD-user45 Are you an amillennialist?
His answer does not address the question at all. What of those who died before Christ? Now, today when someone hears of the sacrifice of Christ for them they can choose to believe it or deny it. If they deny it altogether then they are not saved and we know from reading the Bible that to go heaven we do so through Christ and Christ alone- not by deeds or anything else. So, the old testament people had no Christ who had died for their sins because it hadn't happened yet. They did not get to hear of the Gospels of Christ life. They did not get to be told that you can be forgiven completely and that a sinless man came and died for you to have an eternal life with God. This is a big problem with Christianity. I have just started researching this topic myself and I have yet to find any sort of answer that makes any sense whatsoever. Jesus did not say that there was any other way to get to the father. If there were some other form used to judge those who lived prior to Christ then it is very logical to concede that Christ would have addressed that. However, HE DID NOT. At least from what I have read, did he ever mention those who died before him and them going to the father in any other way. The Bible is very clear that the only way to God is through Christ. Any explanation that suggests some other standard was used for those people who lived and died prior to Christ would absolutely contradict what we know that the Bible teaches us. The other problem that Christianity has is addressing the reality that there are those who have lived and died, after Christ came and died, and weren't afforded an opportunity to know Christ. The Bible tells us that the Gospels will be preached to all 4 corners of the Earth. I'm not saying this is an absolute, but given that there are those who died with no knowledge of Christ's sacrifice, it sincerely makes me wonder if there may be another opportunity at salvation/ forgiveness AFTER each individual life here on Earth. Let me say again, I'm not saying this is absolute and I'm not suggesting anybody put their money on black and think that such is the case. But, if you consider this, for example, those who have been murdered who have had their lives cut short than intended and if you consider babies who were aborted like my twin siblings and children who have been killed and didn't have the mind to fully understand what Christ did and be able to make that decision as to whether or not they wanted to accept Him as Lord and Savior it then would not be hard to consider that it's possible that they have an opportunity to receive Christ as Lord and Savior. I do believe that Christ died for our sins and that his overcame all sin on the cross so I do believe he died for EVERYBODY who has ever lived and will ever live. The issue, for me, comes down to explaining how EVERYBODY is afforded an opportunity at forgiveness when so many souls have died without the opportunity to know of Christ and his sacrifice. And, I would also argue, that those who died prior to Christ weren't afforded an opportunity at FAITH in the crucificion and the resurrection which are BOTH equally paramount, in my opinion, to understand so that one can choose to have the faith in those things that have not and yet to be seen.
Think about the fact that, God still sees our hearts regardless of when we were born, he can still see what we would have done with the information. so what exactly happened to them? i don’t know, but god is the ultimate judge, and he is a fair god.
David Platt answer this question very good Biblically. Just check his video on youtube.
What happen to people who never hear the gospel.
Would it be possible to say that since all mankind has a common origin in Adam, those coming from and after Adam would have been informed about God from the beginning of humanity? So,in a sense, all of mankind would have had an awareness/ handed down knowledge of God, but drifted from Him.
So why do Christ came to earth if the already aware of god?
@@ItzRoronoaZoro As was suggested, mankind drifted from/ rejected the knowledge of God over time, so Christ came to re-establish the relationship.
We are so blessed to be born where we can know about Jesus from books, bible, app bible, movies, music, utube. Theres no excuse for US and God knows.
He just made this shit up
Dmboola is a native African pygmy from the region now called the Republic of Congo, the year is 200BC. Dmboola is married according to native culture and tradition and has a family. Occasionally he has lustful thoughts about his neighbors young wife but does not progress those feelings into actions because of tribal taboos and laws, the tribe has their own Gods and Demons
After his death Dmboola is brought up before a Middle Eastern God who tells him he must burn in Hell and be tortured for eternity for breaking a commandment he has never heard of, written by a God he has never heard of and who tells him that he loves him, He is a little confused.
What about everyone else in the world?
What happens to those people who never got the chance to introduce their land or country in the bible, does that mean they’re all went in hell? What about those people who lived in asia, japan, philippines etc?
According to the Bible, the Jews believed in the one True God. But according to Paul ( in Romans Chapter 11 ) because they rejected Christ when He came they were cut off and not saved. Therefore, having faith in the one true God or even believing in God through nature and conscience does not guarantee salvation.
Lmao … that’s slavery … coming from a man that died and went there.it’s not like that up there it’s a lot more peaceful and helpful
So he flooded the whole world
They knew that Christ would come (abraham rejoiced to see My day,and he saw it and was glad) old testament were saved by faith in the messiah coming, new testament are saved by faith the messiah has came . Jn 8/56
What about those before Abraham
The scriptures say the righteous and unrighteous will be resurrected. (Acts 24:15) And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. It is Jehovah God's intent to judge people under his righteous new kingdom after they have been made perfect like Adam. With exception to a few people most will be given a second chance at life without Satan and his demons.
He sounds like he's making it up as he goes along. Does he even believe what he is saying?
What is he making up? - RF Admin
@@drcraigvideos "What is he making up?" - most of what he said. People in the time of Abraham believed in the revelation that was given to them, and the benefits of Christ's atoning blood were applied to them even though they had no knowledge of Jesus. Where is he getting this from? There is no indication in the Old Testament of this concept of going to heaven after death, so no Jews in the time of (the mythical) Abraham believed that everybody was heading for heaven or hell. The idea that they would wake up in heaven to be told they had achieved their eternal reward because they had been washed of their sin by a man who did not exist yet, but would die for them in the future is nonsensical. However, that is what WLC is saying.
The New Testament does not address this conundrum either. If it did, then WLC would have quoted it, although other apologists have attempted to pull a verse or two out of Paul's epistles and twist it to answer the question, the argument is made out of his head. To be fair, at least WLC does not claim to be a modern day Prophet like fraudsters such as Kenneth Copeland etc, but he still likes to speak with an assumed authority on such matters. Although it might be said that his knowledge of Christian theology allows him to do so, he is just voicing an opinion. By not claiming that what he says is biblical also means he avoids having to prove that the bible is an inerrant source of God's word as well, which can't be done.
I still maintain that he sounds as if he was making much of what he said up as he went along, although he suggests he has answered the point before, so may be repeating something he previously said. It sounds like a politician's answer, rather than a deeply held philosophical belief. In other words, it provides an articulate and authoritative answer to the question, without really addressing it properly. Another example of WLC doing this can also be found on UA-cam when he answers the question about the morality of the Israelites killing all of the Canaanite children as commaned by God in the OT. He actually said that "THIS WAS KINDEST THING THAT THEY COULD DO FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE GONE STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN, WHICH WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY HAD GROWN UP IN A PAGAN SOCIETY". Apart from being one of the most disgusting excuses for child murder that I had ever heard, I also thought that anybody that knows him should never let William Lane-Craig babysit their children!!!
@@93Current //People in the time of Abraham believed in the revelation that was given to them, and the benefits of Christ's atoning blood were applied to them even though they had no knowledge of Jesus. Where is he getting this from?//
Certainly, some were saved with no knowledge of Jesus. See for example Romans 4:9 and Hebrews 11.
//There is no indication in the Old Testament of this concept of going to heaven after death, so no Jews in the time of (the mythical) Abraham believed that everybody was heading for heaven or hell.//
First, why think that Abraham was "mythical"? Second, the ancient Jews did believe in a resurrection of the dead to life and immortality. So, even if they didn't believe in "going to heaven" (an erroneous view of the end times) or "going to hell" (a doctrine not explicated in those times), this does nothing to undermine the claim that the benefits of Christ's atonement could be applied to them because of their faith.
//By not claiming that what he says is biblical also means he avoids having to prove that the bible is an inerrant source of God's word as well, which can't be done.//
Why think that his position is predicated on biblical inerrancy? Did he ever make that claim?
//Apart from being one of the most disgusting excuses for child murder that I had ever heard, I also thought that anybody that knows him should never let William Lane-Craig babysit their children!!!//
Incredulity isn't an argument. - RF Admin
@@drcraigvideos How is it that you keep missing the point? It is not about whether you agree with anything that I say, as I don't necessarily expect you particularly would. However, you just have a disingenuous knee-jerk misunderstanding of everything I say. Very odd.
Anyway, briefly;
1. The point I made was that WLC just sounded as if he was making it up as he went along with a lot of puffed up guff about the blood of Jesus being retrospectively applied to the people in the time of Abraham etc. Yes, Paul says that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness, but is that what WLC is saying here? No, it isn't.
2. I think Abraham is mythical because that is the consensus of historical scholars. If you had said that this was not a particularly relevant point, then I would have had to agree with you that this was a separate argument as we were talking generally about the faithful who lived well before Jesus. Oddly, you just asked why he was mythical.
3. The Jews had a vague notion about the resurrection of the dead at the end of time, but as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten." The story of Job also makes no sense if we introduce the concept of the afterlife. Satan would have just said to God, "Of course he's remaining faithful. He's worried about what will happen to him in eternity." But he doesn't. The focus is just on what happens to him in this life. To say this does nothing to undermine the benefits of Christ's retrospective atonement doesn't really seem to make sense, or Satan would have surely said so.
4. I don't think WLC's position is based on biblical inerrancy. I made it clear that it wasn't, as I said his position seemed based on an assumed authority that made it sound to me as if he was making up his rhetoric as he went along.
5. "Incredulity isn't an argument." I never said that it was. I mentioned this statement from WLC about the genocide of the Canaanite children as another example of how he will answer some questions as if he is making it up as he goes along. I was incredulous at such an appalling argument justifying the slaughter of children from an acclaimed apologist who I would have expected would have thought about his position on many of these questions. Again, you seemed to totally miss the point.
@@93Current //Yes, Paul says that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness, but is that what WLC is saying here? No, it isn't.//
No, not in this two minute clip. But he does say it here: www.reasonablefaith.org/podcasts/defenders-podcast-series-2/s2-doctrine-of-salvation/doctrine-of-salvation-part-11. This is why we respond to video comments. Short videos introduce topics, but we often have to point people in the direction of additional resources because they ask questions or raise objections, as you've done here.
//I think Abraham is mythical because that is the consensus of historical scholars.//
Do you have a survey which supports this claim?
//The Jews had a vague notion about the resurrection of the dead at the end of time, but as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten."//
Of course, this passage is entirely compatible with a belief in the resurrection of the dead.
//The story of Job also makes no sense if we introduce the concept of the afterlife. Satan would have just said to God, "Of course he's remaining faithful. He's worried about what will happen to him in eternity." But he doesn't. The focus is just on what happens to him in this life. To say this does nothing to undermine the benefits of Christ's retrospective atonement doesn't really seem to make sense, or Satan would have surely said so.//
This misses the point of the story, which was God's faithfulness to Job and Job's faithfulness to God. Satan is the enemy of God and purposed to turn Job away from God. Had Job in fact turned away from God, he would have shown himself unfaithful and not been called "steadfast" in the Epistle of James. Who else does James mention? Abraham and his faith being counted to him as righteousness.
//I don't think WLC's position is based on biblical inerrancy. I made it clear that it wasn't, as I said his position seemed based on an assumed authority that made it sound to me as if he was making up his rhetoric as he went along.//
So, your argument is that he didn't mention biblical inerrancy in a two minute clip because he's avoiding the task of defending biblical inerrancy and wants the latitude to just make stuff up as he goes? If that's the case, then you simply aren't familiar enough with his work, particularly his Defenders theology class, where he both defends biblical inerrancy and supplies biblical support for his positions.
//I was incredulous at such an appalling argument justifying the slaughter of children from an acclaimed apologist who I would have expected would have thought about his position on many of these questions.//
So do you have an actual rebuttal to his point or no? - RF Admin
﴿اقتَرَبَ لِلنّاسِ حِسابُهُم وَهُم في غَفلَةٍ مُعرِضونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ١]
[The time of] their account has approached for the people, while they are in heedlessness turning away.
- Saheeh International
﴿ما يَأتيهِم مِن ذِكرٍ مِن رَبِّهِم مُحدَثٍ إِلَّا استَمَعوهُ وَهُم يَلعَبونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢]
No mention [i.e., revelation] comes to them anew from their Lord except that they listen to it while they are at play
- Saheeh International
﴿لاهِيَةً قُلوبُهُم وَأَسَرُّوا النَّجوَى الَّذينَ ظَلَموا هَل هذا إِلّا بَشَرٌ مِثلُكُم أَفَتَأتونَ السِّحرَ وَأَنتُم تُبصِرونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣]
With their hearts distracted. And those who do wrong conceal their private conversation, [saying], "Is this [Prophet] except a human being like you? So would you approach magic while you are aware [of it]?"
- Saheeh International
﴿قالَ رَبّي يَعلَمُ القَولَ فِي السَّماءِ وَالأَرضِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٤]
He [the Prophet (ﷺ)] said, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
- Saheeh International
﴿قالَ رَبّي يَعلَمُ القَولَ فِي السَّماءِ وَالأَرضِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٤]
He [the Prophet (ﷺ)] said, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
- Saheeh International
﴿بَل قالوا أَضغاثُ أَحلامٍ بَلِ افتَراهُ بَل هُوَ شاعِرٌ فَليَأتِنا بِآيَةٍ كَما أُرسِلَ الأَوَّلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٥]
But they say, "[The revelation is but] a mixture of false dreams; rather, he has invented it; rather, he is a poet. So let him bring us a sign just as the previous [messengers] were sent [with miracles]."
- Saheeh International
﴿ما آمَنَت قَبلَهُم مِن قَريَةٍ أَهلَكناها أَفَهُم يُؤمِنونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٦]
Not a [single] city which We destroyed believed before them, so will they believe?
- Saheeh International
﴿وَما أَرسَلنا قَبلَكَ إِلّا رِجالًا نوحي إِلَيهِم فَاسأَلوا أَهلَ الذِّكرِ إِن كُنتُم لا تَعلَمونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٧]
And We sent not before you, [O Muḥammad], except men to whom We revealed [the message], so ask the people of the message [i.e., former scriptures] if you do not know.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَما جَعَلناهُم جَسَدًا لا يَأكُلونَ الطَّعامَ وَما كانوا خالِدينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٨]
And We did not make them [i.e., the prophets] forms not eating food, nor were they immortal [on earth].
- Saheeh International
﴿ثُمَّ صَدَقناهُمُ الوَعدَ فَأَنجَيناهُم وَمَن نَشاءُ وَأَهلَكنَا المُسرِفينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٩]
Then We fulfilled for them the promise, and We saved them and whom We willed and destroyed the transgressors.
- Saheeh International
﴿لَقَد أَنزَلنا إِلَيكُم كِتابًا فيهِ ذِكرُكُم أَفَلا تَعقِلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ١٠]
We have certainly sent down to you a Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] in which is your mention. Then will you not reason?
- Saheeh International
﴿وَما أَرسَلنا مِن قَبلِكَ مِن رَسولٍ إِلّا نوحي إِلَيهِ أَنَّهُ لا إِلهَ إِلّا أَنا فَاعبُدونِ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٥]
And We sent not before you any messenger except We revealed to him that, "There is no deity except Me, so worship Me."
- Saheeh International
﴿وَقالُوا اتَّخَذَ الرَّحمنُ وَلَدًا سُبحانَهُ بَل عِبادٌ مُكرَمونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٦]
And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, they are [but] honored servants.
- Saheeh International
﴿لا يَسبِقونَهُ بِالقَولِ وَهُم بِأَمرِهِ يَعمَلونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٧]
They cannot precede Him in word, and they act by His command.
- Saheeh International
﴿يَعلَمُ ما بَينَ أَيديهِم وَما خَلفَهُم وَلا يَشفَعونَ إِلّا لِمَنِ ارتَضى وَهُم مِن خَشيَتِهِ مُشفِقونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٨]
He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they cannot intercede except on behalf of one whom He approves. And they, from fear of Him, are apprehensive.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَمَن يَقُل مِنهُم إِنّي إِلهٌ مِن دونِهِ فَذلِكَ نَجزيهِ جَهَنَّمَ كَذلِكَ نَجزِي الظّالِمينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٩]
And whoever of them should say, "Indeed, I am a god besides Him" - that one We would recompense with Hell. Thus do We recompense the wrongdoers.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَمَن يَقُل مِنهُم إِنّي إِلهٌ مِن دونِهِ فَذلِكَ نَجزيهِ جَهَنَّمَ كَذلِكَ نَجزِي الظّالِمينَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٢٩]
And whoever of them should say, "Indeed, I am a god besides Him" - that one We would recompense with Hell. Thus do We recompense the wrongdoers.
- Saheeh International
﴿أَوَلَم يَرَ الَّذينَ كَفَروا أَنَّ السَّماواتِ وَالأَرضَ كانَتا رَتقًا فَفَتَقناهُما وَجَعَلنا مِنَ الماءِ كُلَّ شَيءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلا يُؤمِنونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٠]
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?
- Saheeh International
﴿وَجَعَلنا فِي الأَرضِ رَواسِيَ أَن تَميدَ بِهِم وَجَعَلنا فيها فِجاجًا سُبُلًا لَعَلَّهُم يَهتَدونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣١]
And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَجَعَلنَا السَّماءَ سَقفًا مَحفوظًا وَهُم عَن آياتِها مُعرِضونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٢]
And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَهُوَ الَّذي خَلَقَ اللَّيلَ وَالنَّهارَ وَالشَّمسَ وَالقَمَرَ كُلٌّ في فَلَكٍ يَسبَحونَ﴾ [الأنبياء: ٣٣]
And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming.
- Saheeh International
Don't u have a black rock to worship and a podofile profit to follow. I am an ex muslim whom Jesus saved. Save urself before it's too late friend
So I guess King Tut, Virgil, Julius Casaer, Socrates, Alexander the Great, Cleopatra, Buddha and others of the pagan world could be in Heaven?
Caesare,Socrates and Alexander are for sure 🫡
God shows Himself through natural revelation and by creating a conscience (a conscience helps convict people of sin and helps guide them to follow God's law). so, those people could be saved even if they haven't heard the Gospel. anyways, it is only ultimately the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that allows for entrance into heaven.
and remember, God is just and fair. no one is getting unfairly judged in the afterlife. God is the ultimate standard of fairness, justice, goodness, and love.
Romans 2:15
"They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them."
Romans 1:20
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
Acts 4:11-12
"Jesus is
“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”"
What about cave men or people, who couldn’t understand the concept of god
No such thing as cave man.
@@sunher3434 Because of Last Thursdayism??
So there is a tribe of people that never heard of Jesus but they committed unspeakable crimes. Don’t worry that rich uncle is here to save them
What if I don't have a rich uncle Dr. Craig?
Just joking, I still like and understand your analogy. :) :) :)
(P.S. I really don't have any rich uncles nor rich relatives for that matter, but I'm thankful for your analogies.)
Where’s the proof they had credit before Christ. People can throw a cross on and make up anything and there’s always some lost person that’s gonna take it at face value.
This does not make sense to me
Ok but what about Pagans who lived before jesus BUT were still good people.
There is no good people
nature itself...
That doesn’t make sense because god destroyed the world because of sin. And was upset with ppl that didn’t believe in Moses word. So idk about that. That would just mean they were all exempt just to prove to us to believe in Christ?
These guys are just professional question dodgers
So … how would you answer that question?
You’d have to repeat the question, cuz I don’t know which one this comment is connected to. Sorry, just an old man - lol
So what you're saying is that as long as you're a good person you can get to Heaven. Sweet!
Everyone has the same power of Jesus the lie is that Jesus was the only one when we are all fully capable … we are all children of the same being … let’s use our brain
He never answered the question. The question was not about people who had heard "God's revelations" it was about people who had not. The common false belief is that they are all going to burn in hell. The Bible says otherwise. These people will be resurrected on earth and given a chance to learn about God and Jesus to once again live on earth but this time forever. He know this but does not want to admit it because it goes against what he preaches.
Stupid analogy. Uncles don't exist thousands of years after you're born.
The lamest answer ever
That didnt make sense at all.. oh my god
Please, don't use God's name in vain.
I thought I was just dumb for a min 😭 thanks for this comment lmao
@@amaripayne_24 relax... take a deep breath.. this is 2021.... how do u define using God's name in vain?
What is "free will?"
Think hard.
Free will is the ability to make a choice. The actions that follow are already predetermined due to the moral foundation on which the choice is made. No action is unique and the choice on which it is founded will play itself out through said choice. That’s why God says in Matthew 12:30
“He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” Also, in John 8:44
When he says:
44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
In conclusion, because you have CHOSEN to follow Satan YOU WILL lie because those are the actions that follow the choice you’ve made. :)
@@mathewlanier8352
"Free will is the ability to make a choice."
That's all you really needed to say.
Another question: Do you have "free will?"
OR
"Do we have "free will?""
We either have it or we don't. One or the other. Just like "You're either for me or against me."
OR
You can't be a little pregnant. You either are or you're not. No middle ground.
FYI I do not follow Satan. I am a young earth creationists and do not believe in evilution.
So if you have a question about my faith I hope that answers it.
I just have a handful of thing I ponder and once in a while try to find answers. Free will is a tough one. Really need to think about what it truly is and what it truly means.
What would one have to be to have "free will?"
* I don't say "100% free will" because it really cannot be less than that to have. If you have 50% (or any number less than 100) free will you have none.
One "good work" can void any amount of faith, if you decide to depend on that instead of Jesus. Just another example of "one or the other."
But if someone has faith they know good works don't save. "Good works" are the result of salvation, not a requirement.
Looking foreword to your answers. Hope you can help me understand.
@@ohyeah11000 I personally believe we have free will. But I do see what you're saying, are we free or pre determined? Be like a programmer programming a robot to flip burgers, which would be it's predetermined function. But let's say this burger flipping robot decided one day it would make french fries, then it would be breaking it's predetermined function and therefore have free will. Same is like people, I believe we have a predetermined function for what we're meant for, my belief is it's God. But you see, sin, or evil is the thing that makes it so we break pre determined functions because that stuff is not intended for God's kingdom etc. Hopefully this helped, im always down for friendly conversation.😊
Show me your freewill and ill show you your ignorance. (Martin Luther) instead study the nature of man and the nature of God
@@mathewlanier8352
When I think of the words "free" and "will" I think "at no cost" (free) and "what you would do or have done" (will).
Seems to me "freewill" would (or should) mean "Do what you want and it will cost you nothing."
But we cannot do that because we have a "sin nature." We often want to do the wrong things knowing they're wrong because of this sin nature.
If we didn't have a sin nature we could do anything we ant because we wouldn't want to do anything wrong (sinful).
Doesn't mean we wouldn't make mistakes. Just means we wouldn't curse when we do. (Just an example.)
I don't understand how we can have "freewill" when we ae bound by the shackles of sin.
Even bigger question here:
I'm a sinner because I inherited a sin nature from Adam.
Is it MY fault I inherited this sin nature from Adam?
I it your fault you inherited a sin nature from Adam?
Is it anybody's fault they are sinners?
If it is not our fault we are sinners, why are we judged for our sins? How can we be?
It's not our fault.
This is something I have grappled with for years. Hope someone can explain it to where I can understand it.
riiiiiiiiiiiight
Ie. They were Muslim
Is God obligated to save all ?
Is God not omnibenevolent if He refuses to save all men ?
I think not...
@Soli Deogloria An omnibenevolent god is obviously obligated to save all. For a god who saves all is more benevolent than one who saves few.
BS!!!
Man religion is such a wild thing humans do
First, your soul will leave your body, and this is very painful for those who do not believe in God. Secondly, you will know that Allah's is the true God, and that Islam is the true religion. Heaven is real and hell is real. Read carefully about Islam and you will know goodness from evil.
www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/popular-writings/christianity-other-faiths/concept-of-god-in-islam-and-christianity. - RF Admin
What a bunch of baloney
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