Forever is a Long Time Coming | Transformers: Generation 1 | Season 3 | E11 | Hasbro Pulse
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Forever is a Long Time Coming | Transformers: Generation 1 | Season 3 | E11 | Hasbro Pulse
The Quintessons construct a time machine to try to stop the Autobot Rebellion in the past, intending to change history forever. But when five of the Autobots are trapped in the past, the Autobots in the present are forced to work with the Quintessons to save the universe when their meddling with the past threatens to jeopardize the stability of reality itself. But can they succeed in rescuing their missing friends and returning A-3 (Alpha Trion), the leader of the Autobot Rebellion to his time?
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So, the Aerialbots save Alpha Trion. To whom they would bring a young Optimus Prime, so Alpha could save his life. The same Optimus who one day will conceive their creation possible only through the sacrifice of Alpha Trion himself.......
Talkin' about time paradox.
So that technically makes alpha trion a grandfather
Circle of life, man.
That's an error in that episode. There's no way the Aerialbots could have saved Orion Pax when they themselves were non sentient shuttle transporters💯
Someone here is thinking 4th dimensionally
@@great159 they went back in time check out the war dawn episode lol
Absolutely love how flabbergasted the Aerialbots are about A3 being Alpha Trion like as if they didnt engage in time shenanigans and literally assist in making Optimus like brothers in Primus you have Been Down This Road Before
Not to mention the obvious visual similarities, granted Transformers with similar bodies aren't all that uncommon
That's an error. They were ships back in the day when Optimus was Orion Pax. They couldn't have had a hand in saving Orion Pax's life🤓
@@great159Two possibilities, a change in the timeline or a paradox. If it’s a change in the timeline they would have been made by Prime and Trion in what was then the present, gone back in time during War Dawn, returned to the present and been rewritten to have existed from the time of War Dawn. The writing of the show wouldn’t have to acknowledge the shift because there is never any real discussion on when they were built within the show. To us they were built from shuttles on Cybertron but a time shift would overwrite that for the show.
@@great159The paradox option is similar but the creation of the aerialbots wouldn’t change. They would still be made in the present day, go back in time, change the past which is why Optimus knew they had saved him, and return to the present. Optimus would be the only one other than them to know they had been in the past and saved him because of the paradox. The other autobots there at the time would know they had gone to the past but they would have no knowledge of the aerialbots saving Prime because they themselves hadn’t been created yet.
@@great159 I mean fair but they were still a part of the Time Fuckery so like. My point still stands, its funny to me how surprised they are when they still went back in time once already.
The one episode that demonstrated why Ramhorn is the most badass cassette on either side of the Great War.
Ramhorn is one of my favorite Autobots.
It's always interesting that Omega Supreme was the only Guardian with different colors and a personality
Don't think he was a Guardian. The large transport rocket body would naturally transform into a bigger robot.
I suppose that’s what makes him appear unique
That’s because he was the first..but LATELY others guardians have taken on their own look
@@Leto2ndAtreides omega admitted he was a guardian in secret of omega supreme
he was one of the guardians but he was the most advanced i think
I love Ramhorn..."You're gonna get my help OR ELSE." Strong asf too, knocking down a huge Guardian?!
Should have been used more
I really like how none of the robots from the past Transform or even hint at being able to. It shows great continuity as Transforming wasn't a thing until the initial battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons as established in "Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2" and "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4".
Facts!
The Autobots created the ability to Transform in the second Great War. The ability to fly in robot mode was created by the Decepticons ONLY and used first by their last chance to win.....Megatron. He started the third Great War🤓
@@great159 yes soon as Megatron.was created he killed an autobot leader and took over a city according to war dawn which means he was newly created
Seems like soundwave and shockwave was created around the same time as Megatron. Which is why he had a deep.resoect for them and why he treated them.better than a few others
Just like galvatron, cyclonys and scourge are all brothers since they was created by Unicron
Which explains why cyclonys cared for galvatron and then cyclonys and scourge was always together like they was when they was skywarp and thundercracker you never saw one without the other
When a3 went into the future he saw his descendants transform and he also learned he was inside vector sigma he went back into the past with knowledge of the future
@@chrisedwards3214 Did they reverse engineer the space bridge to travel through time instead of space?
20:10 Yes, Silverbolt, that was Alpha-Trion, and you've just saved the future creator of your own race.
Guess he's the granddad of autobots
Didn't the Aerialbots meet Alpha Trion in War Dawn? Why didn't they recognize him?
it is him as a young Robot
@@thesailormercury2 But that's when the Aerialbots met him in "War Dawn", as a young robot.
@@StarFighters76 this was 2 million years earlier than wardawn
I thought Gerry Conway would've done his homework on that. :-/
One cannot remember the future.
1:16 Oh, _bowl-shaped._ I thought he said _bull-shit_ asteroid. 😅
I'm surprised that the Aerialbots don't recognize Alpha Trion, even though he is just two million years younger than in the incarnation the Aerialbots last saw him in War Dawn (he's from 11 million years ago here, versus the last time the Aerialbots saw him nine million years in the past).
Looked like it was a time anomaly that made A3 look like Alpha Trion.
Alternate universe
@@ixiahj alpha Trion was inside vector sigma in 2006 let's not forget alpha trion.didbt die
He looks younger with only a thin black mustache instead of a white one and white beard. Do robots physically age? Did they have experience with biological creatures that did and decided to adapt the affectation of looking older?
And to say nothing of the fact that he gave his life so that they could be born.
"Exactly" i like how silverbolt response, that why he is the team's leader esp for a team full of eager teammates 😆
"As a warrior Predaking has no equal". Well... I've seen this cartoon plenty of times and know that is not true.
I'd like to change that piece of monologue to something more honest like maybe:
"As a warrior Predaking often get humiliated by Sky Lynx and usually runs back crying to Galvatron".
I love the craziness of every part of it
14:24 these space aliens from a machine world have commonly held opinions about
“sub standard cloth” 🤣
"....unless your name is Sky Lynx, which means he's outclassed."
Uhh... You do know he has no known weakness right?
Comics megatron took him out with one blast
@@chrisedwards3214 And in Transformers Zone he got bisected legnthwise with a single strike.
14:29 Gotta love AKOM. With the incredible amount of animation errors throughout their run if you closely you can see they painted the light green on the front side of the animation cell just above the Quintesson's upper lip. I'm guessing they colored the that section that darker greyish/green originally but painted it the light green on the front instead of redoing the whole set of cels for this scene.
trivia: 10:59 the lady shown here is supposedly the daughter of Flint and Lady Jaye from G.I Joe
In "The Killing Jar" episode, they had a Quintesson disguised as an older Flint, who Marissa takes down.
Btw, Marissa's mom (Lady Jaye) got turned into a little girl, too!
I remember this episode mainly cause of Marissa Faireborn being turned into a baby! I was shocked!
And she is a baby forever
@@thealexprime right. I was like did Marissa get back to normal after those green rings were destroyed.
@@thealexprime no
A3.. the first Autobot that had a mustache.
From the Quintesson’s reaction at 18:36, it looks like he was hoping that the Autobots would shut down the window and leave A3 in the present, undoing the rebellion…as opposed to just being genuinely concerned about the structural integrity of the universe. We’ll never know for sure, though.
We do know for sure that was why he reached the way he did.
Yrs the quints knew who.a3 was
I always thought it was cool that Ramhorn was the only animal cassette that could talk.
Ravage did early on way back in Season 1 (?) IIRC.
SteelJaw spoke in the Japanese series.
They could talk but chose not to
@@chrisedwards3214 source?
Rumble talked all the time…?
Alpha trion is literally the patriarch of all those who wear the autobot symbol
If you check out the return of optimus prime there were four or five ancients who were his predecessors.
@@slickchick5811 a3 led the rebellion against the quints he's wasn't the first matrix bearer
The Predacons are my favorite combine team!!!
Preceptor knew how to spot fake asteroids
@1:13 "that Bull Sh!t asteroid"
Bowl shape
12:50 Alpha Trion flies off the asteroid for no reason
And that scream...ugh.
@@phillipwattsjr.4714 It's so beautiful!
Someone needs to make a shooting star meme with this scene
@@liljatupsu YES
I didn't know who that was and still found it hilarious
Another badly animated episode with an interesting plot.
Here's what gets me....How is it they can all fly and in deep space I may add??? So many plot points from previous seasons now purely reduced to meta. 🤣
Some of the best g1 stories were from season 3
I think I'd rather have a poorly animated but well-plotted episode than a well animated boring episode.
This is why The Transformers will ALWAYS be the best transformers series ever. Unlike all the other TF cartoons The Transformers gives you DETAILED HISTORY and not vague info like Beast Wars, Armada, Prime, ect. We know WHO, cteated them, WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW they were created. Cybertron's past isn't just mentioned, we get to see episodes of it (can't do too much of that with CG TF shows IF any at all😂)We GET number of years as well. YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT THIS SHOW!💯👍
From a story standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised if someone placed this episode before "Big Broadcast of 2006" and "Quintesson's Journal".
12:51--Alpha Trion's embarrassing scream. 😂
Alpha male
Beta female
21:10
Admittedly, these dudes are some incredibly impressive enemies, just like the Constructicons, Trypticon and Stunticons, even if they're not taking orders from Galvatron/Megatron or any of the Decepticons.
The Autobot symbol was supposedly came up by the Quintessons 11 million years ago as a slave brand for consumer goods, so as the Decepticons too for military hardware.
The military hardware machines became decepticons and cane up with the con symbol cause they wanted conquest
4:44 Rodimus Prime! Take notes!
Yeah, Silverbolt's character development has pretty much shown he is a great leader.
@1:13 Spreading outward, like ripples in a pond...from that "bullshit" asteroid right there! - Perceptor tired of Blur's constant shit 😅
AH I CANT UNHEAR IT
Bro you tainted my childhood
Thank you for saving some computer key strokes. I am dying right now give the cast of characters in that scene.
Saturday morning cartoons! Nicee
Back in the day Transformers aired every day
@@kinglord7707 I grew up with beast wars
For me it aired weekdays. Never saw the original series on the weekends.
Is it just me, or is Galvatron more deranged than Megatron?
Megatron was never deranged. Originally, neither was Galvatron until he crashed through Unicron (cracking his head) and landing in liquid plasma energy. Then Galvatron became deranged.
@@amitypredator9385 they was both egomaniacs
galvatron is so deranged he literally blew up a planet with his mental illness.
This was my favorite episode; when the 'Transformers' animation crew members, they first time showed the Marissa Fareborn age regression. They also showed, Alpha Trion/A3, as a middle aged Autobot. It was before he first built/constructed Optimus Prime/Orion Pax, Ariel/Aleta One, and SUPERION. 😳
I wished they would have shown her actually regressing to a baby
Ahem.
Optimus & the Autobots made the Aerialbots in the present day. They did, however, help Alpha Trion create Optimus Prime.
@GlitchanBlack I MEANT, did you see the episode? I've seen every single one of the first generation episodes.
It would have been cool if this episode had of explain who Dion actually was, if it was actually Ultra Magnus.
Hasbro already confirmed that Dion died in G1 cartoon. In Wing universe comic, he survived and became an Autobot Elite Guard. Then he and another Autobot named Magnum got heavily damaged in a battle. Alpha Trion told Optimus only one of them can survive and got rebuilt so we never know who became Ultra Magnus.
@@miyako1909 I say Magnum became Ultra Magnus then.
Flint fille said Dion was just a character created to be killed off
Weird how Superion noticed Alpha Trion @13:34 but then the Aerialbots forget by end of episode? Is Superion a seperate being?
Came to say this, lol.
Autobots: Capable of flying when there is no emergency, but as soon as they might fall down into a pit or plummet to their doom onto a planet surface, incapable of fight.
They can't fly. The only time they can fly is in the pilot episodes. After that, it was established that Autobots can't fly, except the Dinobots. Autobots fly using rocket pack.
Apparently Blur forgot that Omega Supreme is a Guardian Robot..so did the writers.
Omega supreme didn't matter no more in season three he was still around but sky lynx took his place
@@chrisedwards3214 Maybe, but that's just bad writing.
@@amitypredator9385 that's show business. the show was made to sell toys.
How are Autobots able to fly all of a sudden?
They’ve been doing that for a while. But it is the “futuristic 2005” now
it's in space
@@Eternalnight198 ...where Autobots have not bothered to fly in space until now?
From episode to episode the writers forget whether Autobots can fly or not
Rocket and jet packs
The last time autobots could fly was back in the first 3 episodes of season 1 before they became more consistent of driving and not flying, the only exceptions being Megatron and Soundwave who can somehow fly despite their transformations (a gun and a cassette tape player respectively.)
Ravage flew once
@@chrisedwards3214 that too...
Could be the rules are a bit different in space?
There were two other episodes that I saw Autobots flying however I'm not about to go back and rewatch the series to find them. I just thought it was weird they were allowed to fly again so I remembered it happening.
@@desecration171The Autobots fly using rocket packs. The Dinobots have the ability to fly similar to the Decepticons.
Instead of shining some Autobot symbol, shouldn’t A3 have used The Matrix to defeat the Guardians? He would have had it because he hadn’t given it to Orion Pax/Optimus Prime yet.
The history of the Matrix in the cartoon is confusing as heck, but they did establish that he didn’t receive it until Megatron rose up
@@androzani84productions85 we would have gotten more history if season four continued
Furman gave a good origin for the matrix
Scientist or not, Perceptor is like the only Autobot with NO hands lol, he can't fight for slag
He blasted devastator one time but at least he was r cowardly like first aid or useless like wheelie
Perceptor served his purpose
Aerialbots save A3, A3 become Alpha Trion, Alpha Trion creates the Aerialbots.
Full circle.
Actually, no.
Aerialbots save A3, A3 becomes Alpha Trion, Aerialbots are created in the present day by Optimus and the others and given personalities by Alpha Trion & Vector Sigma, Aerialbots went back in time to help make Optimus Prime, Aerialbots survive the movie, and THEN the loop begins.
"3rd season Opening is a long time continuing"
Can't argue with the cheesy fossil fuel statement
WTF. Just like Galvatron said, "Autobots can't fly!"
Some had rocket packs
The dinobots could fly- so can.wheeljack and gears for short distances accordung to their profiles
And he said this right in front Sky Lynx…
I love to see Blurr floating in space and is my first time seeing it It’s so cool
Another episode, where you'll find "female Autobots" !!
some nice continuity in this episode-
-the shock on the faces of the slaves when Rewind transforms. they of course, wouldnt have even conceived of what "transforming" even was at this point.
-no sharkticons in the past. they were a recent addition to the ranks of the Quintessons. they werent seen either in the flashback sequences of FFOD either.
-a nice look at Alpha Trion's past, as he was a part of the 1st Cybertronian war.
- the Dark Guardians became the "Guardian Robots" seen in Wardawn and mentioned in The Secret of Omega Supreme. they couldnt transform here but later the slaves( the Autobots) recycled their bodies after the Quints fled Cybertron and apparently rebuilt them to convert.
I think a3 went to the future seen it learned what happened And went back to the past with knowledge on transformation and their descendants
Alpha trion was inside vector sigma but he sensed his younger self present in cyberetrom so he appeared to.superion
Dont forget his name, omega, maybe he was the last itteration of a long line of guardians, but none were built after him due to whatever reason, hese the last and the best: omega supreme
@@chrisedwards3214 If he did that then that would start a DIFFERENT timeline. It wouldn't be part of the past as we know it in the show.
@@great159alpha trion merged with vector sigma to create the aerialbots in 1986
Twenty years later alpha trion was still inside vector sigma as seen in rebirth
In this episode a3 ends up in the future and sensed everything that happened he studied his descendants he seen them.transform and the aerialbots merge
He went back 11 mil years in the last with knowledge of the future after they drive the quints off Cybertron
According to fuve faces of darkness the autobots invented transformation and won many battles against the cons until the cons learned how to transform. And decepticon technology invented the flight ability
Megatron said vector sigma gave him life and vector sigma arranged for galvatron his later incarnation to steal the plasma energy key to bring Cybertron to a new golden age
Alpha trion and vector sigma joined forces no telling how long alpha trion planned this
This was probably why he merged in the first place without telling Optimus he doesn't have to explain nothing to his children while the autobots thought alpha trion was sacrificing himself to being the aErialbots to life alpha trion had other plans season four if it had continued was gonna explore this more
The quints was gonna revive unicorns head and there was gonna be more appearances of primacron and more cybertronian history and they was gonna find out that Cybertron was once able to transform which was why Unicron ordered starscream and scourge to connect his head to Cybertron
@@daanvos194 My head canon is that sometime either before or After Orion Pax became Optimus Prime the Autobots built their own Guardian Robot stronger and more powerful than the rest. This would be Omega Supreme.
12:54 *casually stands in space*
3:10 I'm ngl its hilarious watching perceptor just sit there in utter shock and then just basically dies. The writers always almost kill him so that the other autobots can't figure out what to do lol
Haha this is exactly why Brawn used to trash talk him so much
The G1 Predacons:
Dive Bomb the Eagle
Rampage the Tiger
Headstrong the Rhino
Tantrum the Buffalo
RazorClaw the Lion and Team Commander
Tysm now I know their names
1:16😄 he said bullshit on this time stamp?.
That's some bowl shaped..
@@davidsavage5630 it sounds like he said bullshit. (Sound like!) Go rent a sense of humour?.
@@retrodealer6495 Uhhhh....saying "that's some bowl shaped" instead of "that's some bullshit" was just a wink and a nudge back at you acknowledging your comment, not correcting you. Because it DID sound like bullshit. Is it that hard to tell when someone is kidding if no emojis or LOLs are used?...lol🤪
I found it's only entertainment to watch as a kid, but when I am aged, it seems this is reflecting the real world events.
I wonder how many people besides me knew A3 was a young Alpha Trion when he was pulled through the time window by the Quintessons as we all saw him as a young bot in the episode 'War Dawn' when the Aerialbots were thrown into the past during the Golden Age of Cybertron and again in this episode and when I first saw A3 right away I knew he was Alpha Trion before Rewind figured it out.
Autobots flying? What?
14:24 I love that these space aliens from a machine world have commonly held opinions about
“sub standard cloth” 🤣
They are interstellar merchants, FWIW. Maybe they sell cloth :-)
@@michaeldownstairs it'd be cloth that spies on you, kidnaps you, and gives you weird space disease
i literally had to pause and check i wasnt the only one who heard that!
So now we just have Autobots flying from one place to another in space? Even Decepticons have needed to be in vehicle mode to fly from one planet to another, and even then only if they have a mode that allows for space travel (eg: Astrotrain, Cuclonus).
they eventually realized how the founding principles of their entire show were really damned awkward LOL
5:09 'GUEST DIRECTED BY MICHAEL BAY'
Alpha Trion's facial hair is the only thing the age and grew long
I don't know why, the ending scenes are weirdly ordered. I think they should be re organised.
Yeah, well, of course it's a long time, it's forever ! Its endless.
I like ramhorn's voice
19:00 So, Alpha Trion had a girlfriend too? Wow folks! everyone is being set-up, and some singles are still stuck between!
After rewatching this, idk how the Arielbots didn't know who A3 was. They literally took Orion Pax to A3 for A3 to turn him into Optimus Prime in season 2. Come on Hasbro.
This episode got me wondering, if the Autobot symbol used to be a slave symbol, what did the Decepticon symbol use to be?
At the beginning of the season, the Primes mentioned that the Decepticons were built for Military purposes, so I'm guessing that the Decepticon insignia was their Military insignia
@@SecretAgentEsoundwave was the headsculpt
@@blueraccoon1088 What does this have to do with what this guy was talking about?
So I guess the Autobots can fly again?
Imagine if the Maximals and Predacons, and maybe the Vox suddenly appeared in 2005 because of the Quintesson's Time Window.
Now that could make for a good branch storyline.though they'd probably had look a bit weird if conceived in that time.Though the green cybertronian lady has black arachnid vibes,she's probably an ansester.
@@c.glazercrush3994 beta was a prime like A3 she would be better known as solus prime
A3 was not the father of the Autobots two leaders were before A3
Alpha Trion was a first generation product of vector sigma
Optimus ND his crew considered him the father of autobots
@@chrisedwards3214 If there was at least 4 order than alpha that doesn't make him the father. 2 plus 2 is 4 not 5
@@babykevinxoxoalpha Trion was shown to lead the rebellion against the quints which started the age of the autobots
Seems like all the other leaders of matrix bearers came after him
@@chrisedwards3214 No look at the return of prime in series one. Get your facts correct.
@@babykevinxoxo Someone was then a half quintason,maybe a quintessa like being or the creature who spoke of the old hate plague.who looks like a vock type.Any main leader before a3 was probably in that gladiator combat. Curious though wonder if theirs story on the fallen.
Would really like to see a series about that period of time. They really need to cover this era of cybertronian history.
With better animation than in this episode.
Imagine if the Decepticons did take part of the episode, I wonder what would it be like if Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge met up with Megatron, Bombshell and Thundercracker with all the Deceptacon’s astonished about the time ripples that brought all three of them from the past.
Ramhorn is just as strong as the Dinobots.
Aint no guardians anymore they forgot omega Supreme was still.alive lol
Johnny 1 robot reach skyies🎉🎉🎉
Why can they fly with out transforming
Alright Marissa’s ok
Cameos from jazz- bumblebee- wheelie- swerve- and springer blink and youll.miss swerve
Excellent choice of bodyguards for Perceptor lol
Wreck gar wasnt weak, we saw ramhorn kick tailpipe and blasters not a slouch either blurr has speed backing him so it's a good choice of bodyguards better than grimlock lol
@@chrisedwards3214
Exactly Wreckgar is weak, never said he was
Hear me out ya'll. There's a theory i want to put out.
•Chrono energy\ transwarp energy
•Time rewind
•Starscream's ghost
•Prime's repairs
Put it all together.
With the chrono energy making everything rewind and repeat, it pulls starscream's spark in, with the other bots flung into space to earth prehistoric times and with chrono energy stoping prime's ship hitting the bomb
10:15 Is that jazz?
20:02 Alpha Trion who build Optimus Prime 9 Million years ago
I didn't know Ramhorn could speak!
So Alpha Trion merges with Vector Sigma to create the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots go back in time to help Orion Pax get rebuilt by Alpha Trion to become Optimus Prime. The Aerialbots through a time loop save A3 so he can become Alpha Trion. Interesting
Where does Vector Sigma come into play?
Unfortunately we never got the full story if season four continued they might have gone in this direction alpha trion seemed like he could read vector sigmas thoughts or whatrver
It's stated the quints built the transformers not Cybertron
They was gonna go and say that Cybertron was once mobile and could transform they was also gonna bring primacron back the creator of Unicron and tornitron
Ramhorn reminds me of Donkey Kong Country's Rambi The Rhino. Inspiration, perhaps? 🙂
20:10 Pacman 😂
10:13 The Autobots in the Race are Bumblebee, Jazz, Swerve, Springer and Wheelie
So at 17:10, Ramhorn, who is a casette size rhino, takes down a guardian, who is supposed to be the size of Omega Supreme. Does noone else find this unrealistic?
Funny how the guardians all look like Omega Supreme.
Good old days of cartoons
I prefer the original geeky voice of the Superion what he have episode The key of vector sigma..
Käännä
5:53 this is just like omega supreme on the recolored right?!
And all this time I never new robots can grow Beard's 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤭🤭🤭
Tell.scourge that
Just as rattrap said "cyberpuberty"
Its interstellar law that when you have tentacles you must flap them around constantly and at all times.
Eh? When did the autobots learn to fly? The opening scene has perceptor and blaster soaring through the sky with their arms outstretched super man style.
there's no gravity in space but possibly limited gravity on the asteroid> not enough to keep A3 from flying off into space
Ramhorn can talk?
Yes
I didn't know that the Autobots could fly
15:55 The die has been cast. Is that referencing Caesar crossing the Rhine?
Ramhorn taking on guardian robots? Come on, man.
The cybertronian race fighting Unicron come on
@@chrisedwards3214 Yeah, but look at what Ramhorn did to them. It would never happen like that.
Did he say BULLSHIT 😂😂😂
12:26 why do people think Rodimus is a bad leader
10:15 I may have grown up with transformers cybertron but why do feel like they're racing on velocitron