Squash: Jahangir Khan v Jansher Khan - Archive Freeview
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Before you make ignorant judgements about the relative skill of these players compared to modern players, consider that the head of the rackets are half the size and the weight roughly double the modern gear. Also the shafts are very flexible, so much harder to control the ball. But the biggest factor is that these players wore such tight shorts that their gonads were crushed in a constrictive vice throughout the game. Every drop shot and lunge is a feat of extreme bravery and total commitment to the game over any future progeny.
Haha!
Well weight only a bit more than today's lightweight rackets and the sweet spot about the same (smaller head is almost one sweet spot). I have one right here to check. But agreed about the shorts...
dalstonjazz its almost double the weight
I play with a 110g racket, and to compare i have a cane racket from the 80s, pretty much top of the line for then, that weighs around 185g. So not quite double but much heavier for sure. That extra weight makes a lot of shots harder to play, particularly the reflex shots, counter-drops and fakes.
I weighed several rackets - the old 500gs I have is heaviest indeed at 220g. But the Black Ion Cannon I play with a lot is 180g strung and gripped (it's supposed to be a 135g racket and feels light) and I also use a Technifibre 125 Carboflex and this is lighter at about 160g all in (and is a 125g frame).
Legends of the game 👑
In the realm of squash, a legend was born,
With a fiery passion and skills to adorn.
Jahangir Khan, a name that would soar,
Through the annals of time, forevermore.
From Karachi's streets to the world's grand stage,
A young boy's dream, a warrior's sage.
With racquet in hand and heart full of fire,
He ignited the court, a force to inspire.
In the shadows of giants, he stood tall,
A glimmering star, destined to enthrall.
With grace and power, he moved like a breeze,
A master of angles, impossible to seize.
From match to match, an unyielding might,
A winning streak, a stunning sight.
Five hundred fifty-five battles won,
A testament to the battles he'd begun.
British and World Opens, he claimed with glee,
The courts his canvas, his skills set free.
An artist of movement, a maestro's touch,
Jahangir Khan, the champion, we clutch.
In youth, he conquered, a trailblazer bold,
A title at seventeen, a story to be told.
He shattered the barriers, broke the mold,
With resilience and grit, a tale of gold.
But beyond the victories, a spirit profound,
A heart of humility, a soul so sound.
He inspired a nation, a legacy, he built,
A hero to many, his name forever gilt.
Jahangir Khan, a beacon of light,
Through challenges faced, with all his might.
Your journey's a lesson, a beacon to see,
In every heart, you'll forever be.
So rise and strive, like Khan of old,
Through struggles untamed, and stories untold.
In the pursuit of greatness, your dreams embrace,
For in you, too, lies a champion's grace.
I'm lucky and old enough to watch both of these great players in action from their very first championship matches
When you talk about Jahangir Khan you have to make comparisons to other sports . . . Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, etc., etc. The dude went on a 500+ winning streak. I'm not sure there's any record in any sport that really comes close to that period of dominance.
This generation of squash players is always going to be the best
Jahangir Khan had amazing regimen to train 10 miles of run is one of them - geoff hunt jonah barrington and jehangir are true legends , peter nicol , jonathan power , lincou are another chapter in this game
I am here because their is a lesson on his squash journey in our English book.. and now I am fan of King Khan ....
Haha same 🤞
That is great to know. Which country do you live in?
Jahangir khan is a legend. No one can be like him ever
i saw jahangir live in germering, germany in the 80s. i bet this dude would still kick ass today.
how do they hit the ball so well using those tv antennas
Jahangir was truly a force to be reconed with. In the late 80 and early 90's he came to the US as world #1 in the softball or international game format. He played Mark Talbott, the #1 player in the US hardball who totally dominated the hardball rankings. I think Jahangir lost to him the first time, but then went 11 consecutive matches in different tournaments against Mark and handily beat him each and every time. Jahangir was untouchable. The game has changed a lot since then. Style of play is certainly different...much more offensive and aggressive, but the level of fitness, in my opinion, has decreased. The length of matches and rallies has decreased, which I believe for today's average spectator, is a good thing. I don't know if today's spectators would enjoy watching the length and style of play seen here.
The game has changed a lot but I am not sure if they were fitter back then. Its like comparing a marathon runner to an 800m runner, who is fitter? The game now is much more dynamic (helped with a lower tin and a different scoring system amongst other things)its more fartlek intensive. Different types of fitness in both eras
Endurance and patience has decreased, just like how our societies have been shaped over time anyways.
David Dunn
Which one is jahangir? And do you think they’re better or worse than the top 1 or 2 players in world today?
@@joemoore1054 You mean the game is much shorter. Serve does not matter, you score on yours and opponents' serve the same way and it is down to 10 points instead of 15. No wonder that fitness is lower. It is not required as much.
@@TheJohnCooper Jahangir is the shorter one. He ruled the world of squash before the younger Jansher (who also belongs to the same area in Pakistan) took over.
To all who are asking why aren't they attacking as modern players: tin heights used to 21 inches not 19 not 17 as now in PSA, racquets were substantially smaller and very hard to generate power with little control, strokes were almost always given as let balls. Games were longer and more physically demanding. I doubt any modern player could compete in fitness to the top level players of that era.
Yeah - pretty sure players now are fitter than ever. Maybe not quite the same type of fitness, but they are fitter than ever. Rest of the points are very valid.
Sorry, the tin height was never 21 inches.
All sports evolve and get better in every aspect. It is pointless to compare these guys to modern players - gear, skills, tactics, fitness etc will always improve through the years.
Gems of the sport from Pakistan, dominated the world for decades..respect from India.
Thank you for your kind words. There was a time when there used to be no one but Pakistanis in the top rankings. Now we are nowhere to be seen in squash. The great Jansher Khan was the last recognized squash player from Pakistan.
30 British Opens won by Pakistanis. I was lucky enough in mid 80's to know Jehangir and his father, brother, cousin and nephew and train with them for a year before moving to the US for college. A humble family and champion.
Jealous indians even here lolz
Man it sucks that there aren’t any top players from Pakistan any more. Both of these showed that there is certainly talent, but needs to developed and matured.
Egyptians are truly ruling the scene.
I hope egyptians continue ruling squash
These two were the best ever, in an era where the standard was unbelievably good... today’s players simply couldn’t touch them. There were others in no order, Dittmar, Martin, Norman, Martin, Robertson, Marshall, Nicol, Power, Parke, Harris, but these two are the best... Jahangir the goat for me but some argue Jansher... just Jahangir for me, but both were unbelievable, as good as any athlete, Maradonna, Pele, Federer, Bolt... these two greatest in squash and up there with any athletes... Dittmar nearly beat both once in a semi and a final which is crazy in itself... genuinely today’s players can’t touch most of not all of those... squash was more popular and better then. Hope it gets into the olympics, the players deserve it.
Great players, but the modern Egyptian generation and the likes of Paul Cole would definitely touch them. Their speed around the court and athleticism is a definite notch up from the Jahangir era.
anybody the power in Jahangir's shots was daunting as if he trying to tear the wall.. just mind blowing control and power
Jahangir was amazing to watch live, he could retrieve almost anything ! I remember trying a graphite racket for the first time, made such a difference I just had to have one ! Dunlop Max ply was consigned to the cupboard ! :o)
My generation was so unlucky that our national tv would hardly show the matches whenever these two titans met..
Jahangir khan the greatest athlete in all sport they say
The game has changed so much with better length but these two are both legends
but that is true for any sports....standards improve greatly with time due to better equipment and training. But that doesnt take anything away from Mohammad Ali, Pele, Maradonna, Bradman. Michael Jordan or any other legends of the past.
Jansher used to slow the game, asked for unnecessary lets for breaks again to disturb the pace of Jahangir. This was typical strategy of Jansher.
He had to. Maybe it was easier with other players but with Jahangir, he could not win playing clean.
@@UmarMunir94 exactly
I think overall reach was far better in old players and the stamina to play long rallies was amazing at that time. Today the real quality is difficult to judge ,lesser players can also upset due to shorter version and more easier game rules.
Can we encourage these shorts and moustaches on the pros now like we do with heart rate monitors?
XD
Is it just me or does Jansher asks for a let several times and the umpire replies "no let" but then they play a let anyway?
yes
Ref is inconsistent. Sometimes saying play let, other times let ball.
the guy who calls no let is not the ref, but the marker. the ref overrules him, and gives the let
Seems like great players never run, just glide and lunge.
It is a big mystery of the last century. That this two guys coming from Pakistan, where, total number of squash courts in the country were less than the number of quotes in University of Oxford, dominated this game for nearly 2 decades.
The legends
Proud Pakistani
4:54 how is that a let??, to many easy lets call in this game....
That's the way it was those days. Nowadays squash is a full contact game compared to 1980's.
You're right, let's were way more generous back then but there was some really bad calls in that match anyway, including the 4:54 one where the guy totally manufactured that let...So glad the rules have changed.
Looks like major interference as he's coming through, let is a fair call there i think
Dave Fair yep thats correct dave i totally agree
Jahangir rolled his eyes.
جہانگیر خان پانچ سال ناقابل شکست رہے تھے ۔۔۔۔کیا یہ معلومات درست ہیں؟؟؟؟
Ji bikul world record
hai
Can we still learn from them, or has squash evolved to a new level?
There is a strong Yes
555 games unbeaten in a row
In this match only one thing we should be noticing and that is ME factor because everything is same for both the players except their own individualities.
He is a legend
Filmed with the new 1990 steadi-cam.
These two players were better than anyone alive today and none of the top players can hit the ball as hard as Jahangir could. The only player that was ever his match for power hitting was John White the Australian who represented Scotland. And while we are at it for all you nay sayers check out Rodney Martin maybe the most skilful player of all time.
yes Rodney probably had the most gifted racquet skills of that generation. He was doing shots of today with those very heavy 200g small face racquet. Jahangir and Dittmar were hardest accurate hitter but Jahangir moved faster and was much fitter. Jansher was very efficient fast mover with incredibly accurate deep shots and front court coverage . Glad to have seen them play in person.
I've heard Hashim Khan (cousin to Jahangir, earlier generation) was pretty good, as well.
im related to these legends!
Those are not tv antennas. I have played squash for a long time. It’s a very tough sport. Plz have respect for this game and try not to be ignorant “ TV ANTENNAS”.
are u stupid .. by TV antenna he meant the rackets were too slim
They make it look so easy lion vs tiger
Great video but terrible reffing. Keeps giving lets to Jansher when there's hardly interference and he's through to play the ball. But that was very common throughout the 90's, especially with Jansher!
Perhaps its the less sophisticated or poorer yesteryears recording equipment or angle making these recording less exciting vs todays' . Have seen both their plays as well as today's players thru past 30 years. My assessment is these 2 would transcend period and would still dominate in today's game but to lesser extend . Both were top 2 for 10 straight years . Sportsmen can't dominate 6-8 years of any sports at world level unless one is indeed rare talent among the world class of the likes of Federer , Nadal . Gaultier , Gawad and Ashour's are also great talents but comparatively they don't even last beyond 6-12 months at no.1 or 2 . Dittmar , R.Martin and C. Robertson would still compete well in today's top 10 . On contrary , I think very few of today would do well if goes back 20 years on those old equipment.
It is more difficult to dominate any sport at the most elite level these days. The physical stress on the body and the sheer number of top level sporting events shorten the careers of professional athletes these days.
Good comment
@@martincollins6632 The physical part was more demanding back then. You could only score on your service. On opponent's serve if you won the rally, you just got your serve back. The game was 9 points or 10 if you went to 8 all. Today's players would have to adjust a lot and be a lot more patient.
@@abidfarooqui4899 lol. I started playing in the 70s as a lad. I remember playing in events where they even still had a second service after a fault.
All of these lets should've been no lets 😂 Jansher was really abusing!
different rules back then
Not tv antenna it is overed cp
I like the intro music.
It's called 'Leavin' and is available in the UA-cam Creator Library :)
grt era
It is simply amazing that mexican Mario Sánchez defeated Jahangir 3-0. Love squash, sad it is that our goverment in México only helps soccer players.
That was not Squash. That was hardball in 1984. Jehangir only participated in hardball due to price money, He never practiced it much nor liked it or considered it legit.
@@abidfarooqui4899 Agreed. Still he managed to beat Talbot & win two world titles before calling it quits.
@@abidfarooqui4899 It is Hardball SQUASH. 😂😂😂
Who'd have thought you could hit the ball that hard wif a lollipop....🍭
How soft are the let calls of the forehand side!
I must say the referees these days are extremely strict. When playing club or even provincial squash the calls are MUCH more relaxed.
So many soft lets! Glad that part of the game has changed.
Very interesting. Why are there so few volleys, drops or boasts? Did the rackets/ball/tin from 1990 make them ineffective? ElShorbagy would have killed so many of those loose shots.
Those old rackets just aren't as forgiving as their modern equivalents when it comes to touch and control, especially on the volley. The smaller head meant the sweet spot was much smaller, and mistiming it on the volley would likely just mean hitting it into the floor. Or if it was a wooden racket, breaking your wrist...
the racquets were quite a but heavier and the tin was a few inches taller..Elshorbagy would have had a heyday with his antics manufacturing lets and such...
You can see how much they have to wind up to hit the ball hard, it didn't race off the racquet with very little swing like it does now days.
elshorbagy or anyother for that matter lasted anyway with these rackets.
Jason Crease give elshorbagy a 220 gm racket with a very small head and lets see how long his wrist lasts (if he tries playing like he does today)
Who won this match?
Simple Pakistan win😂
Jansher 3-0
Was the court smaller back then?
theluggage it does appear that way
Nice I enjoyed bondu koresi sathe
How would these 2 fare against today’s tour pros? Would they be right on top?
John Cooper they not only dominated but also changed a lot how this game was played so i reckon if given they r in their prime, they can keep any present day pro dancing all over the court without getting much points
Notwistanding the equipment, they would get massacred. The modern game is much faster, physical and accurate.
@@trinerd the endurance of the past can’t be compared to days.
@@trinerd the game was much more physically demanding back then. The rallies were lengthy when compared to today. Hence, i hardly think it would be a problem for Jansher or Jahangir to dominate in today's era
Diffrent scoring system, shorter and havier racquets with vibration every time you hit the ball. Even the video quality was not that good to show the ball properly. This TED talk explain very well.ua-cam.com/video/8COaMKbNrX0/v-deo.html
Wow, more lets than an estate agent
This is what I imagine the impression of squash is for most people who have not been exposed to it. A slow, boring, repetitive, long game played by men with mustaches in short tight white shorts using a nearly invisible ball. I understand this was a necessary evolution of the sport mostly due to technology (although I believe they had the technology to make longer looser shorts back then); but I am glad it is a relic of the past and the modern game is much easier to sell to the general public.
I agree with you. I am from Pakistan. We dominated global squash for over 40 years but after Jansher Khan retired the game completely vanished from the country. Despite being so good in the sport, no one in Pakistan knows what is going on in the world of squash.
Slow, boring?? You must be watching a different game to me. This is one of the most exciting games of squash I've seen, and I first watched it back in the day. Just awesome
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Rozys ranna
I remember those tight pants.. lol
Were they playing with a 19 inch tin back then? Seems extremely attritional.
Yes they did.
21" I think
22:24 and 24:01 - "As flat as a pancake"? Guess we'll never know as the video was shot using my iphone
I think your iphone is probably a little more advanced than TV tech in 1990!
Jansher used to look for a lot of cheap lets
مجھے آج تک سمجھ نہیں آئی اس کھیل کی کے یہ کرتے کیا تھے بال کو ریکٹ سے مارتے دیوار میں لگتا واپس آتا پھر مارتے پچپن میں اسکول سے واپس اکے ٹی وی کھولتے کے کاش کسی کرکٹ میچ کی جھلکیاں دیکھنے کو ملیں لیکن اکثر یے کھیل دکھاتے رہتے تھے پی ٹی وی پر ہم نے فلپس کا بلیک اینڈ وائٹ ٹی وی نیا نیا لیا تھا نشریات شروع ہوتی تھی ہم پلک بھی نا جھپکتے تھے کے کچھ مس نا ہوجائے مجبورن جھاں شیر جھانگیر کو بھی دیکھتے رہتے تھے بیچ بیچ میں تالیاں بھی بچتی مگر ہم کو کچھ سمجھ نہیں آتا تھا بس کمینٹر کی کمینٹری سے پتا چلتا تھا کے یہ سیٹ جھانگیر نے جیتا یے جھاں شیر نے اور آخر میں کوئی ایک ہاتھ اوپر کرتا تب اندازہ ہوتا کے اس نے جیتا ہے
The raquers look awful
I've got a Dunlop 500GS 'fibre injected' racket that's still in very good condition - like this one:
i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KysAAOSw8w1X7iNA/s-l300.jpg
I sometimes take it to the squash club and make the best payers use it to try and equalise things but they still win. It's really just one sweet spot.
So boring
These guys wouldn't make it to the top 20 these days....It's a boring game with almost no drop shots or anything away from straights or cross.
These guys would, & did, adjust their game as the rules changed. They both were naturally gifted, super hardworking, dedicated like non other and there’s no logical reason to believe they would not have dominated the game even these days.
I saw Karim G hitting with an old wooden racket. he could not do anything when it came to trying to hit drop shots. It was funny watching him trying to play with the old wood rackets. He just didn't have any touch what so ever. He would get killed if he tried to hit drop shots. The Khans would have smoked everyone in todays era.
nowadays players would smash those players from 90's. But steal it's funny to watch them.
Never fair to compare - have those 2 born in the modern era or transport our era back who knows. On absolute performance from now compared to then yes but unfair comparison to make in my opinion :)
Mike Paul you're right, but what i wanted to say is that the sport in general has grown a lot and that's completly normal, the competition has never been so briliant and the players so talented, not to mention athleticism of players, and we can all be happy because of this. #prayforolympics
Yes I agree Timotej. I especially enjoyed the Best of 3 format seen recently. The intensity of the squash both attack and defence was awesome
lmao Those old rackets just aren't as forgiving as their modern equivalents. if you wanna compare have the players today hit with those rackets. they would not be shooting nicks left and right.
Salty Box Gaming ofcourse you can't compere players, both best in their time with different racquets and stuff, but the athleticism and players in general are much better today then they were back then that's for sure.
In the days before strokes were invented...
Nonsense. I was playing team squash for my club and being a big lummox I was penalised quite often for not clearing the way for my opponent. The game has changed a lot over the years but the top players then would be the top players today. Football has changed. Passing is much better and the players are more sober but Best Greaves Law Charlton Moore etc sould br class today. I m sorry you young people never got to see players like jahangir jansher rodney martin and even further back the great jonah barrington. The tv transmissions were terrible and it was so difficult to see the ball. They also seemed to slow things down. Squash at a high level with the wooden rackets was still quite a spectacle.