@@Marss13z I have to admit, I haven't read the books so I'm only seeing this through the lens of the show. But I tip the hat to your greater depth of knowledge.
honestly, every ship needs a Naomi, and an Amos, but every warship needs an Alex and a Holden to pair with those two boss engineers, the brains and the brawn. Perfect balance, with phenomenal temporary shipmates (I think Prax was my personal favorite - but only because of the dynamic he had with Amos. Those two were the PERFECT balance, seriously)
I think you forgot to mention the key piece at the end when Ashford secretly recorded and sent the audio from his convo w/ Marco which, it is intimated, will be what helps Earth prepare for the upcoming attack.
Thanks. When I watched it all again, then I noticed that part but then forgot it. However, having read all the books, I have to ask you to wait and see about assumptions.
That recording will be like a message in a bottle received too late like 5mn before the attack , it could tie in with how events unfold in book but who knows what and where they decide to go with this .
@@richardhn6481 I have not read the books, so i dont really know what happens, but its easy to assume. The meteor will hit. Billions will die instantly. Gao will have to leave office, people will demand Avasarala's return, maybe not the people, but she will be back into leadership in one way or another. I cannot know the extent of the damage, but since the meteor is ramping up speed and on a direct collision path to earth, it actually might leave earth uninhabitable for a long time. Humans will be on the brink of extinction and they will be forced to go and settle in one of the new discovered planets. Then shit hits the fan. The Marco faction will have the military superiority at the gates, Medina station will be either destroyed or forced up to flee so everyone will be at the OPA mercy when they try to go trough the rings. Thats my prediction.
I think his recording will ultimately prove to all other OPA that Marco can't be trusted and must be eliminated. The OPA will then rise as a unified faction even though they are rare compared to Inners.
FF was excellent. Had future potential but you know fox..... most shows should hope for 1 great season. Expanse as a grounded sci-fi universe is and continues to be everything I’ve found pretty much any other show lacking. I recommend to anyone I think would appreciate it.
It is NOT ON TV ANYMORE! AND, don't assume you can watch Prime Video on the equipment you watch Netflix on. Only if your AV equipment is less than 5yrs old. The Blu-ray player I use to get Wi-Fi to my living room TV, and watch Netflix on, is a Samsung 3D Blu-ray player, has only played a disk 3 times maybe, WON'T EVEN OFFER THE PRIME VIDEO APP for the Smart Hub. It is not even available in the Samsung Apps. Too bad Amazon got their greedy mitts on "The Expanse", I was looking forward to watching the rest of the series. I will not be watching it on a phone or laptop screen, that is stupid unless you're travelling, and I don't plan on buying new equipment, just to get their stupid App. I already have an Amazon Prime membership, I am rethinking that too.
I love the look that Amos gives Murtry right after he punches him (for the last time), then the confused look that Murtry gives him is priceless like: " Oh crap, I thought I was the monster".
I find the whole Mars issue a bit ironic. Mars seems to be going through the same crisis as Earth did (stagnant, no longer useful, with all the good people leaving to make a new life elsewhere).
Great recap. One of the best shows on tv, hands down. Scientifically, it is probably the most accurate depiction of its genre that we have ever seen. Is Ashford REALLY dead?? He looked dead. Hoping for a Starlord rescue.
Naah. He's dead. Not clear why they brought a guy who'd lost his mind in season 3, back, gave him guns and spaceships and no supervision. What could go wrong? And why did they turn Drummer into a petulant, "I QUIT" loser?
@@Marss13z I have to completely disagree with you, honestly. The whole point of the Abbadon's Gate arc in the show was about different perspectives, and how people can try to do the right things in different ways. Ashford was wrong to try and destroy the Ring, but he was doing it for the right reasons, and I was really happy to see the shoe follow through on that in Season 4 by making him a flawed, human hero, who makes mistakes but is just trying to do the right thing.
@@Marss13z Thats because you are focusing from the POV of the protagonists. The scientist told him that the laser would destroy the thing. The guy who see ghosts and the ones helping him (Drummer included) told him that shutting the reactors would do the trick, but cant do both at the same time. 100% of the times i would go with the scientist and mutiny against an incompetent captain who basically follows a "prophet" to avoid catastrophe. The martian general thought the same. He was loyal, trustworthy and willing to do his part in the peace, until he saw insanity. He could have left Drummer to die to assume command of the ship. He did not wanted to command it. He was forced to do so. Drummer realized he never intended to do any harm and was following a sound plan. He realized he was wrong, so wont doubt Drummer again. He was probably the only one trustworthy to command Medina outside Drummer.
Alientcp if he didn’t want the command he shouldn’t have kept cutting off the captains leg in front of the crew, this was addressed and is presented as his sole motivation. There no reason for the story to tell lies about itself.
@@epiccollision He was the second in command. The prime responsible for the crew's safety is from the captain. Though the second in command has to respond to the captain, he is also in charge for the safety of the crew. even if that is going against its captain if there is enough evidence the captain is no capable of doing it. Trusting in ghosts is enough evidence to support that the captain is no fit to command. Its his job.
This show gets even more fun to watch if you are familiar with the Orion's Arm universe and the concepts within it, because you can apply several of them to the expanse seemlessly. Here's a few: The Builders were a transapient race that had (at the very least) reached the 4th toposophic level, possibly the 5th, the "bubble space" is a basement universe that acts as a wormhole nexus, the Station in the middle is a moon brain, the protomolecule is a self replicating/adapting nano swarm, the thing that killed the Builders is a blight that is of a higher toposophic level than they were, meaning it is EXTREMELY fucking dangerous.
I've read all the books, which are tremendous themselves, and I love the way the major themes are maintained in the TV series but with very, very clever changes in some details, including characters. (Need I doubt anything about "The Expanse" by this time?) I regard each book and season as so very respectful of the fans and what we have come to enjoy so much about them. There are surprises and some plot twists but nothing like the cheap set-ups and then switches I've seen in Star Wars and the last season of Game of Thrones. Such is the value of good writing to maintain a coherence in story arcs. People--those who haven't yet read the books, this season has been a fantastic way of being fine itself but being even more, as it very cleverly, entertainingly sets up the next season. Hold on to your cockpit seats, the juice is coming! (And it will be yet another transition to something even bigger and wilder.)
The only thing i really cant buy is Bobby, she is a little chubby and she went to the dark side a bit to easily. Dont get me wrong, i like the actress, she does a really good job. But if you are the n1 soldier of mars, you have to be on top physical condition, be the nicest person in the room and prefer to starve to death than become a mercenary. The actress is perfect for the role, the character is wrong. The character should be a washed up veteran soldier who is still trying to be a good martian, but she is in the brink of losing faith in it (the blaming of his partner on the attack on mars moon and learning that the military lied about using protomolecule beings against mars itself did the trick). That explains why she is not in top shape and willing to switch sides that easily, while still kicking ass and being foul mouthed. I really really, really like her job in the show, But i cant buy her character background. The character grows on you because she is great. But man, its a very tough sale. I felt every actor fitted the role to perfection as they were introduced. Sold inmmediately. After 2 seasons, she still doesnt click. I already accepted it, its a done deal, But that character is wrong.
personally, I enjoyed the show's adaptation more than the book Cibola Burn and, despite not being as spectacular as some may have been expecting, I think it's a great setup for future events
I feel like S01-03 were better than books, 'cause of all the visuals. S04 was lacking in this regard. Saving Barbapiccola was more dramatic in the book. Naomi land adventures developed into nothing...
@@epiccollision I agree. Personally, I wasn't expecting any major events to develop from that. I just saw it as a good opportunity to make the universe more "real" by illustrating that experience.
Season 4 was nearly perfect, except for Bobby’s storyline on Mars, she could have just learned of the OPA stealing tech, and left to join Avasarala without all that mind numbing heist stuff. But so looking forward to season 5. Bobby SVU needs to stop, she’s a badass marine.
@ I did, ive seen dozens of movies about the invisible man in the sky its comon and back in the day when i was a kid the only movies on TV on Christmas time where about the 10 commandments and an invisible man in the sky that loves us but has money issues.. Sarcasm aside i do try to live by the 10 commandments as every self loving human being should ;)
I assumed sentient Miller was the same as the Julie on Eros. I assumed all those voices on Eros were as Miller put it were "infecting" the protomolecule as it was infecting them. And so to me, sentient Miller was indeed Miller breaking that barrier to reach out to Holden like Miller reached out to Julie back on Eros.
I was under the impression that the explosion on the planet was due to some kind of failure in a power source or something, then to prevent it from happening again it prevented fusion from... working. Since an overall theme was that the technology on the planet was pretty broken down over a few billion years. I did like how they showed that even the crazy advance tech of the proto aliens still decays to the forces of the universe. Great recap though, I also really liked how this season was a bit slower. Felt like it was setting up for crazy things to come.
For a Sci-Fi series, this show is pretty amazing. The writing, the cast, the Roci “family”, the different groups of people (Earthers, Martians, & Belters), the special effects, the suspense. All of it is SO well done. Sad to see two major characters die (Miller & Ashford) who were two good men. The mysteries surrounding the protomolecule & the new planets keep you wanting to keep watching to see how it all comes together. One of my favorite sci-fi shows now, along with the Star Treks, Firefly, Killjoys, & Dark Matter!
Looking forward to season 5 for sure. Season 4 was really underwhelming but I just finished binge watching the whole series so the pace of season 4 was really jarring to me. Still liked it, wish I could love it like the previous seasons though. Am I alone in thinking that? I wonder what the long time fans think of season 4.
I’m a long time fan, and I personally really enjoyed season four. The shows been non stop action since episode one, and while that’s good and made for a really driven story, I feel like this is a natural time in the plot to take a breath and recuperate, set some new conventions surrounding the rings and earth politics and other such stuff. It’s probably more jarring after binge watching the rest of the seasons beforehand, but I feel like we needed the time for some place setting and getting used to the new way the shows going to work now since a lot has changed, and can move on to more intense seasons without feeling left behind.
Nah your not alone I've first 3 seasons on BlueRay but this season Nah, that screen resizing was annoying the pacing was also off (seemed to play like Prometheus, like really play like that) and not sure how Amos was dragged back to room of the final battle (given he'd have had to get him across that jump gap and how badly he was shot up.) Also with Mars (the population are a collective so why did they suddenly become something weirdly fragmented and why not re-purpose the ships for themselves re those very important parts that were stolen but none noticed really.) Still better than anything else out there though. As for SyFi without them this would not even be a thing and they certainly set the expectation levels way high, maybe next season will be less other and a lot more solid and jarring. And when they shot the satellite to test the rail gun I was like uh why shoot that when you don't know what will happen could trigger something as it looks like it's there for a reason.
It's weird hearing people complain about season #4...totally enjoyed it. In fact, it was the very first two episodes that turned me off... looked low budget...gave the show a second try and I'm glad I did. Great UA-cam audiobook...The Churn (?) all about Amos.
i really loved it till the 3rd reason, but smh the season 4 just seems like a mess. it doesnt revolve around a good storyline atleast for me, thiings are happening without any logic unline other seasons.
It's unfortunate he got caught up in sexual harassment charges. Probably the end of his acting career. It's too bad. I've heard that IF there's a season #6 he won't be cast...
Murtry's actions are ALWAYS over-reactions and thus only justified by his "might makes right" (meaning ambush them before they know you are coming) mentality. Amos has him dead-to-rights as a sadist and a bully.
@Reee Monro the only reason that the territory is hostile is that Murtry is there to claim what is "legally" his. Much like George Armstrong Custer in Montana.
Amos recognized Murtry for what he is mainly because they are the same. The only difference is Amos recognized his own moral lacking and so adopts someone he perceives as "good" to be his moral compass, first Naiomi, then later Holden. If Holden asked Amos to do something completely amoral he would with as little hesitation as he does anything else, simply relying on Holden being "good" because he would not be able to really tell the difference himself. Amos sums up that aspect of his character in one of his earliest conversations with Holden. "If you're asking if I am going to rip your helmet off and throw you into space I can't really give you a reason why I should, or shouldn't, except Naiomi wouldn't like it."
Hey, you have to give SyFy some credit. The show wouldn’t even exist if they hadn’t taken a gamble and greenlit season 1. I saw a great video explaining why they cancelled the show and honestly it made sense. The show was very expensive to produce (SyFy’s accountants called it “The Expense”) and live-viewership when the show aired on SyFy was lower than would be expected for such an expensive flagship show. Add to that the fact that SyFy weren’t seeing any profits from the showing airing on streaming services, like Netflix, which I’m guessing is how a significant portion of viewers watched the show, and you begin to see why it kind of made sense that they cancelled the show in end.
also, please don't give Besos a hero status. Yes, he saved the series, however easy to do when you are the richest person alive, made possible by not paying your workers enough. You can be a SF geek & lover without being a corporate sellout at the same time.
Loved the season!!! A awesome space opera with in-depth characters and beautiful complex socio-political environment. Hope they bring Miller back...a household favorite
I thought Holden learned that attacking the proto-molecule was exactly what not to do. It’s one of the first things he does after completing the circuit. 🤦♂️
3:40 I will always find it weird how long everything takes to travel. In the books it mentions that going from Earth to Mars takes two weeks, Ceres to Saturn a few months, Ceres to the Ring over four months and the aforementioned a year and a half to Ilus. This is weird as using basic math you can show that it takes a third to a fifth of the time mentioned. At one third G getting to Mars is about three or four days, to Saturn around three weeks, to the Ring Gate about a month and to Ilus anywhere from two to four months.
Thanks for excellent recap. I’ve read the books and forgot where they left off in the show. I subscribed to your channel and was totally bummed to see that Altered Carbon was cancelled. Nooooo Are you sure? I’ll have to watch your video.
It seems like the SyFy channel keeps the bad shows and cancels the shows that are actually GOOD, the shows that geeks actually love! I loved Dark Matter😐
I will say, I don't think the journey to Illus took a year. When Avasarala gets a message from Holden, it says that there is a six hour delay. That would mean 6 billion kilometres, which means a few weeks to travel the three billion km to the ring, maybe a day to get out, and a few weeks to get to Illus. So I'm guessing seven or eight weeks.
Earth should just annex Mars at this point and make the terraforming into a pet project while focusing on extra solar colonization. Hell, even Venus could probably be terraformed at this point too.
Cara Gee was hardly in Season 4 which was a bit of a disappointment , especially after her character, Drummer , practically stole the show in Season 3.
The biggest failing of the show between the book was Murty. There were a lot more that happened that turned his character. The belters ambushed him and killed several of his team before he really turned bad.
Love the show. I liked season 4. Looking forward to season 5. I hope the COVID stuff doesn't impact the schedule too much. I wish they would make more episodes per season. I binge watch each season with in a few days. Goes WAY to fast due to the small number of shows each year.
So the Roci is a much smaller ship and has far more thrust capabilities outside of their fusion drive and the Barb is very heavy. The gravity from the planet was too great for the barb to get away from as all their large engines are shutdown due to the proto alien tech. So the Roci tried to tow them out of their decaying orbit so they wouldnt plummet into the planet, crash and burn. At the end of the season the proto tech was disabled and both the ships main drives came back online and thus could fly away safely. They could have just transported the people over, but the Barb was full of delicious precious metals that they simply couldn't afford to lose.
I think in the first episode they mention it's been 8 months since the rings were open. Also I remember someone says it takes 2 weeks I think to get from the ring station to Ilus. So definitely not 2 years
It takes 18 months to get from Medina to Ilus (I'm not 100% on that one, might actually be 18 months from Earth, but that's pretty clear in the books - they say it will take 18 months for any support to get to them).
No, futuremartian is right. Someone mentioned that it's 2 weeks from Medina Station to Ilus. The books have said that it's a full year's journey from earth to the ring.
Scott Manley discusses speed in one of his videos. Ceres to Saturn is about 2 weeks when they're on the opposite side of the sun. I believe the approx time is 4-6 weeks to get to the ring if you're accelerating & decelerating at 0.3g. ua-cam.com/video/SIaGXcEnC74/v-deo.html
3 days ago I finished season 3 and watched your summary video yesterday...here I am a day later having finished season 4. Genuinely, I read in the news this morning the Perseverance is landing on Mars in 2 days and NASA is steaming it live and I thought to myself “Man what’s the point, Mars’ inhabitants are giving up terraforming as the ring gate is open and giving them options. I’m mixing up life and television. The 3rd lockdown has got to me here in the uk, I need to work again! Enjoyed this one as well though bud, you funny fucker!
I do wish they kept baja and the cop from book 1 in the season. It built well on the previous books and made it feel like this book brought closure of sorts.
I hope we get to see Baltimore and Erich's thing. I seriously can't wait for season 5, only finished the book yesterday and will be starting Babylon's ashes next. Damn the books are so fuckin good!
I've been doing a reread recently after rewatching the whole show, and it's starting to strike me how the show and the books have drifted apart in a way that they may not easily be able to straighten out. Specifically concerning the character Drummer in the show. This character is essentially made up for the part of the show that exists now. Yes there is a character called Drummer in the books, but up to the point where the show is, she is pretty much just Fred Johnson's security chief in the books, which means that basically only one of her scenes in the show so far really has anything to do with book-Drummer. Drummer of the show is a sort of composite of Drummer in the books together with Pa and Bull (with Naomi picking up the "being in conflict with Pa" part of Bull's role). The absence of Bull is a pretty clean translation from book to show, but I don't really see how the absence of Pa is going to work out the same way. Pa is a major character in book 6, but I don't see how they're going to just introduce her "from whole cloth" in season 5 when so much of Pa's history was already absorbed into Drummer's character. Is Drummer just going to fully absorb Pa instead? I don't quite see how to make that work smoothly, either. But maybe I'm missing something that the show writers are seeing.
season 4 might have been slow for Alex but .... there is no beating his piloting skills, especially when working with Holden strategizing in copilot. Alex's position is hands down the one I would want by a long shot - to be the pilot of the ROCINANTE? Are you kidding? Not poor Alex. Boss Alex.
I love this show! thanks amazon for taking over the torch! season 4 is well made! love the characters 😃. best show of the moment! just wonder if there will be an answer in the future about what the spirals are and why "something" happened to a moon? 🤷🏼♂️
So Jake, have they mentioned when they will be putting Session 4 & 5 out on DVD?? I don’t have access to Amazon, saw the fist couple of sessions on UA-cam and loved it. Just recently found they were out on DVD and got them but only 1 - 3.
I enjoyed Season 4 very much. I didn't like some of the subplots added for bling value, like the subplot about Bobbie Draper delving into the underworld on Mars. Would have been better if she had accepted a job from Avasarala to investigate tech and ships going missing from Mars or something like that. I sorta knew they would find a way to write her into the storyline given her popularity, but that was unsatisfying to see. At least Drummer wasn't killed off and we will see her in Season 5.
To be fair, that subplot is the subject of a novella that is set at that time, so it is canon, but yeah, in the main line books Bobbie is just absent in this part of the story.
Huh. It's interesting to hear this season described as "low key" relative to the others. I just finished it and I came out thinking things were getting much crazier this season with all the stuff on Terra
When you explain Miller's fate, i realized, anchient aliens or at least some of them didnt die, just how proto molecule absorbed miller's mind it may have this aliens minds too, perhaps its actually them who want to learn what happened their people or even use humanity to get their revenge.
If you look at the actual big picture, the Belter's actions were wholly justified no matter how unfortunate. They were entirely correct that the intent of the ship coming there was to evict them and steal their wealth and to do so without the slightest regard for their well being and likely without a care if many or most got murdered. The Miller Ai didn't 'take the form of Miller'. In order to communicate with Holden, it induced Holden's brain to perceive Miller talking to him. The Ai, any AI in general, has no real 'form', it's a program running on a machine. I think what was supposed to have happened is the entity, whatever got created by the protomolecule and which then kept creating these Miller subprograms, slipped up somehow, maybe had a programming glitch, maybe a bit got flipped by a gamma ray, who knows, so anyway, the Miller AI managed to get past the constraints if normally worked within, like a sandboxed program slipped out of its sandbox. Since the entity used Miller's brain as a template, there was enough of him/his personality in it that it had a mind of its own so to speak and that is what determined its actions in opposition to the entity's 'desires', its programmed goals. Or at least that's my nest guess so far.
dude im binging this show after not watching a single episode until now and this fucking season 4 was so confusing and dull.. but watching your video fucking cleared so much confusion and how the fuck Marco became importantly character lol
Might be a bit of apologetics, but I assume since they’ve been in space for hundreds of years they’ve come up with ways to exercise in 0g, as well as they have some sort of artificial low gravity it seems.
Great review Jake. I have to say though that I wasn't as impressed with season 4 as I thought I would be. Of course I am the only person who feels that way apparently so maybe I need to watch it again. But thanks for the review, Ill look for your season 5 review when it is time.
At 6:37 You mention that it's confirmed the belters are the ones responsible for attacking the RCE shuttle, but that's only half true - when the shuttle was still in decent it was attacked by the swarm first (as can be seen with multiple small punctures and impacts throughout the cabin) and the damage isn't consistent with detonating a landing pad (which is on the ground, far below the shuttle). Yes, it's possible that the shuttle was hit with shrapnel from the explosion but if that were the case then there is no reason the show needs to have the swarm at all - the swarm isn't integral to any other part of the plot. I mean why show us - the viewers - the swarm at all if it isn't (at least partially) responsible for bring down the RCE crew when it doesn't feature anywhere else to connect the plot?
As person who knows what will happen in Babylon's Ashes. I really like The Expanse Season 4 and story line of Klaes Ashford's was awesome nad nostalgic. I am not English native speaker I am Polish this TV show was so awesome that I started read book of this universum in english (two years ago there was no Polish edition). And I have question about one scene in this season episode Saeculum when ''Miller robot was crashed''and Elvi Okoye touch the hole. This scene in this TV SHOW is the same like in book? I am not native english speaker Enligsh and i don't understand everything in books
Murtry gets properly screwed over in this season, i completely empathised with him throughout (i may or may not be a touch sociopathic), how else was he supposed to deal with the initial terrorist attack and subsequent knowledge that they planned on killing them all, i mean, the mans got a point. Finally point, great acting on the part of Burn Gorman, standout of the season for me.
Honestly I liked that Murtry kinda acted as pretty much anybody would ofc with less random psychopatic killing. And can somebody explain to me why Mars is working with OPA? I mean the corrupt officials want money... But they are the enemy and I would expect Mars fully focusing on colonizing new planets not giving tech to terrorists that will plunder their colonization efforts through raiding.
This is my favorite channel for The Expanse, however, you sound sober in this video and I enjoy Drunk Jake much more, as in "THE EXPANSE Season 3 EXPLAINED!". 🤣🤣🤣
I loved Season 4 as well as Book 4 + Gods of Risk. for me, the only thing that could have made the greatness of Season 4 sweeter, would have been the inclusion of the personal comedy (i won't spoil the specifics) between Holden and Elvi Okoye; and Basia. I really enjoyed his point-of-view chapters., and the pairing of TV show Lucia and Book Basia could spin off their own tv series about ex-OPA tech-and-science savvy Belters setting up self-rule in the lawless frontier..... But fan-fiction aside season 4 is great, and based on the threads they pulled this season, next season is gonna be massive!!
I hope Drummer gets to be the instrument of Ashford's revenge.
I really hope they stick to the book for that resolution. I'd love to see how they handle the special effects. Oh wait- budget constraints...
@@Marss13z I have to admit, I haven't read the books so I'm only seeing this through the lens of the show. But I tip the hat to your greater depth of knowledge.
im hoping they give her a vacation on a warm planet and she goes swimming in a bikini. i'll settle for a one-piece as long it's a thong.
Me too, i was upset when he died but he went out like a badass.
@@Marss13z Amazon and budget constraints are terms that don't go too well together.
My ex did a lot of things that messed me up, but she introduced me to the expanse, and that's one thing I'm thankful for.
Hope you’re doing better now my dude!
Same here bro same here 😪
Amos busted me up so many times. Every ship needs an Amos
honestly, every ship needs a Naomi, and an Amos, but every warship needs an Alex and a Holden to pair with those two boss engineers, the brains and the brawn. Perfect balance, with phenomenal temporary shipmates (I think Prax was my personal favorite - but only because of the dynamic he had with Amos. Those two were the PERFECT balance, seriously)
I think you forgot to mention the key piece at the end when Ashford secretly recorded and sent the audio from his convo w/ Marco which, it is intimated, will be what helps Earth prepare for the upcoming attack.
Thanks. When I watched it all again, then I noticed that part but then forgot it. However, having read all the books, I have to ask you to wait and see about assumptions.
That recording will be like a message in a bottle received too late like 5mn before the attack , it could tie in with how events unfold in book but who knows what and where they decide to go with this .
Hopefully they wont be able to prepare too much as I really want to the apocalyptic ramifications of several asteroid impacts. >:D
@@richardhn6481 I have not read the books, so i dont really know what happens, but its easy to assume.
The meteor will hit. Billions will die instantly. Gao will have to leave office, people will demand Avasarala's return, maybe not the people, but she will be back into leadership in one way or another. I cannot know the extent of the damage, but since the meteor is ramping up speed and on a direct collision path to earth, it actually might leave earth uninhabitable for a long time. Humans will be on the brink of extinction and they will be forced to go and settle in one of the new discovered planets. Then shit hits the fan. The Marco faction will have the military superiority at the gates, Medina station will be either destroyed or forced up to flee so everyone will be at the OPA mercy when they try to go trough the rings.
Thats my prediction.
I think his recording will ultimately prove to all other OPA that Marco can't be trusted and must be eliminated. The OPA will then rise as a unified faction even though they are rare compared to Inners.
Excellent show ..riveting...but sad for Ashford...liked his character.
Not just the best sci-fi show on TV currently. The best sci-fi show on TV ever.
Even better than Firefly, and I loved Firefly.
I still like BSG better and ST as a body of work as well, but the Expanse is great. Better than Firefly? Probably, since it only went 13 episodes.
FF was excellent. Had future potential but you know fox..... most shows should hope for 1 great season. Expanse as a grounded sci-fi universe is and continues to be everything I’ve found pretty much any other show lacking. I recommend to anyone I think would appreciate it.
Babylon 5 dealt with the science just as well.
easy there Scott.
It is NOT ON TV ANYMORE! AND, don't assume you can watch Prime Video on the equipment you watch Netflix on. Only if your AV equipment is less than 5yrs old. The Blu-ray player I use to get Wi-Fi to my living room TV, and watch Netflix on, is a Samsung 3D Blu-ray player, has only played a disk 3 times maybe, WON'T EVEN OFFER THE PRIME VIDEO APP for the Smart Hub. It is not even available in the Samsung Apps. Too bad Amazon got their greedy mitts on "The Expanse", I was looking forward to watching the rest of the series. I will not be watching it on a phone or laptop screen, that is stupid unless you're travelling, and I don't plan on buying new equipment, just to get their stupid App. I already have an Amazon Prime membership, I am rethinking that too.
I love the look that Amos gives Murtry right after he punches him (for the last time), then the confused look that Murtry gives him is priceless like: " Oh crap, I thought I was the monster".
I find the whole Mars issue a bit ironic. Mars seems to be going through the same crisis as Earth did (stagnant, no longer useful, with all the good people leaving to make a new life elsewhere).
Great recap. One of the best shows on tv, hands down. Scientifically, it is probably the most accurate depiction of its genre that we have ever seen.
Is Ashford REALLY dead?? He looked dead. Hoping for a Starlord rescue.
Naah. He's dead. Not clear why they brought a guy who'd lost his mind in season 3, back, gave him guns and spaceships and no supervision. What could go wrong? And why did they turn Drummer into a petulant, "I QUIT" loser?
@@Marss13z I have to completely disagree with you, honestly. The whole point of the Abbadon's Gate arc in the show was about different perspectives, and how people can try to do the right things in different ways. Ashford was wrong to try and destroy the Ring, but he was doing it for the right reasons, and I was really happy to see the shoe follow through on that in Season 4 by making him a flawed, human hero, who makes mistakes but is just trying to do the right thing.
@@Marss13z Thats because you are focusing from the POV of the protagonists. The scientist told him that the laser would destroy the thing. The guy who see ghosts and the ones helping him (Drummer included) told him that shutting the reactors would do the trick, but cant do both at the same time. 100% of the times i would go with the scientist and mutiny against an incompetent captain who basically follows a "prophet" to avoid catastrophe. The martian general thought the same.
He was loyal, trustworthy and willing to do his part in the peace, until he saw insanity. He could have left Drummer to die to assume command of the ship. He did not wanted to command it. He was forced to do so. Drummer realized he never intended to do any harm and was following a sound plan. He realized he was wrong, so wont doubt Drummer again. He was probably the only one trustworthy to command Medina outside Drummer.
Alientcp if he didn’t want the command he shouldn’t have kept cutting off the captains leg in front of the crew, this was addressed and is presented as his sole motivation. There no reason for the story to tell lies about itself.
@@epiccollision He was the second in command. The prime responsible for the crew's safety is from the captain. Though the second in command has to respond to the captain, he is also in charge for the safety of the crew. even if that is going against its captain if there is enough evidence the captain is no capable of doing it. Trusting in ghosts is enough evidence to support that the captain is no fit to command.
Its his job.
This show gets even more fun to watch if you are familiar with the Orion's Arm universe and the concepts within it, because you can apply several of them to the expanse seemlessly.
Here's a few: The Builders were a transapient race that had (at the very least) reached the 4th toposophic level, possibly the 5th, the "bubble space" is a basement universe that acts as a wormhole nexus, the Station in the middle is a moon brain, the protomolecule is a self replicating/adapting nano swarm, the thing that killed the Builders is a blight that is of a higher toposophic level than they were, meaning it is EXTREMELY fucking dangerous.
I've read all the books, which are tremendous themselves, and I love the way the major themes are maintained in the TV series but with very, very clever changes in some details, including characters. (Need I doubt anything about "The Expanse" by this time?) I regard each book and season as so very respectful of the fans and what we have come to enjoy so much about them. There are surprises and some plot twists but nothing like the cheap set-ups and then switches I've seen in Star Wars and the last season of Game of Thrones. Such is the value of good writing to maintain a coherence in story arcs. People--those who haven't yet read the books, this season has been a fantastic way of being fine itself but being even more, as it very cleverly, entertainingly sets up the next season. Hold on to your cockpit seats, the juice is coming! (And it will be yet another transition to something even bigger and wilder.)
*The Expanse - Brilliant:* Cast, Acting, Writers, Directing, Choreography, Musical Score, Editing, Sci-Fi Series, Story, Script, Science, Visual effects, Prop Masters, .... etc. *Powerful! 💪 Inspiring! Beltalowda!*
The only thing i really cant buy is Bobby, she is a little chubby and she went to the dark side a bit to easily. Dont get me wrong, i like the actress, she does a really good job. But if you are the n1 soldier of mars, you have to be on top physical condition, be the nicest person in the room and prefer to starve to death than become a mercenary.
The actress is perfect for the role, the character is wrong. The character should be a washed up veteran soldier who is still trying to be a good martian, but she is in the brink of losing faith in it (the blaming of his partner on the attack on mars moon and learning that the military lied about using protomolecule beings against mars itself did the trick). That explains why she is not in top shape and willing to switch sides that easily, while still kicking ass and being foul mouthed. I really really, really like her job in the show, But i cant buy her character background. The character grows on you because she is great. But man, its a very tough sale.
I felt every actor fitted the role to perfection as they were introduced. Sold inmmediately. After 2 seasons, she still doesnt click. I already accepted it, its a done deal, But that character is wrong.
personally, I enjoyed the show's adaptation more than the book Cibola Burn and, despite not being as spectacular as some may have been expecting, I think it's a great setup for future events
I feel like S01-03 were better than books, 'cause of all the visuals. S04 was lacking in this regard. Saving Barbapiccola was more dramatic in the book. Naomi land adventures developed into nothing...
@@fcuk_x the Naomi subplot was not needed for sure.
Peter Wuwei we needed to know the consequences for Her entering the well.
@@epiccollision I agree. Personally, I wasn't expecting any major events to develop from that. I just saw it as a good opportunity to make the universe more "real" by illustrating that experience.
GREAT recap! I'm on my 1st rewatch, and loving it. Anyone complaining because there isn't wall to wall space action can go swim in slug water.
Season 4 was nearly perfect, except for Bobby’s storyline on Mars, she could have just learned of the OPA stealing tech, and left to join Avasarala without all that mind numbing heist stuff. But so looking forward to season 5. Bobby SVU needs to stop, she’s a badass marine.
I think The Expanse is the best video production that humanity ever made like EVER!
@ I did, ive seen dozens of movies about the invisible man in the sky its comon and back in the day when i was a kid the only movies on TV on Christmas time where about the 10 commandments and an invisible man in the sky that loves us but has money issues.. Sarcasm aside i do try to live by the 10 commandments as every self loving human being should ;)
I assumed sentient Miller was the same as the Julie on Eros. I assumed all those voices on Eros were as Miller put it were "infecting" the protomolecule as it was infecting them. And so to me, sentient Miller was indeed Miller breaking that barrier to reach out to Holden like Miller reached out to Julie back on Eros.
I was under the impression that the explosion on the planet was due to some kind of failure in a power source or something, then to prevent it from happening again it prevented fusion from... working. Since an overall theme was that the technology on the planet was pretty broken down over a few billion years. I did like how they showed that even the crazy advance tech of the proto aliens still decays to the forces of the universe. Great recap though, I also really liked how this season was a bit slower. Felt like it was setting up for crazy things to come.
For a Sci-Fi series, this show is pretty amazing. The writing, the cast, the Roci “family”, the different groups of people (Earthers, Martians, & Belters), the special effects, the suspense. All of it is SO well done. Sad to see two major characters die (Miller & Ashford) who were two good men. The mysteries surrounding the protomolecule & the new planets keep you wanting to keep watching to see how it all comes together. One of my favorite sci-fi shows now, along with the Star Treks, Firefly, Killjoys, & Dark Matter!
Another great review. Thanks! Here's hoping Amazon gives us The Expanse in its entirety.
Looking forward to season 5 for sure. Season 4 was really underwhelming but I just finished binge watching the whole series so the pace of season 4 was really jarring to me. Still liked it, wish I could love it like the previous seasons though. Am I alone in thinking that? I wonder what the long time fans think of season 4.
I’m a long time fan, and I personally really enjoyed season four. The shows been non stop action since episode one, and while that’s good and made for a really driven story, I feel like this is a natural time in the plot to take a breath and recuperate, set some new conventions surrounding the rings and earth politics and other such stuff. It’s probably more jarring after binge watching the rest of the seasons beforehand, but I feel like we needed the time for some place setting and getting used to the new way the shows going to work now since a lot has changed, and can move on to more intense seasons without feeling left behind.
Nah your not alone I've first 3 seasons on BlueRay but this season Nah, that screen resizing was annoying the pacing was also off (seemed to play like Prometheus, like really play like that) and not sure how Amos was dragged back to room of the final battle (given he'd have had to get him across that jump gap and how badly he was shot up.) Also with Mars (the population are a collective so why did they suddenly become something weirdly fragmented and why not re-purpose the ships for themselves re those very important parts that were stolen but none noticed really.) Still better than anything else out there though. As for SyFi without them this would not even be a thing and they certainly set the expectation levels way high, maybe next season will be less other and a lot more solid and jarring. And when they shot the satellite to test the rail gun I was like uh why shoot that when you don't know what will happen could trigger something as it looks like it's there for a reason.
It's weird hearing people complain about season #4...totally enjoyed it. In fact, it was the very first two episodes that turned me off... looked low budget...gave the show a second try and I'm glad I did. Great UA-cam audiobook...The Churn (?) all about Amos.
i really loved it till the 3rd reason, but smh the season 4 just seems like a mess. it doesnt revolve around a good storyline atleast for me, thiings are happening without any logic unline other seasons.
Best series on TV! I always thought Star Trek was a bit sanctimonious, and Star Wars is kind of a cartoon. The Expanse is true science fiction.
I wish they would've dove more into the builders and who they were before they came across the proto molecules
Alex/Cas' arc was saving the show.
It's unfortunate he got caught up in sexual harassment charges. Probably the end of his acting career. It's too bad. I've heard that IF there's a season #6 he won't be cast...
@@sharongillesp there is 6th and final season coming. Cas will not be in it.
Murtry's actions are ALWAYS over-reactions and thus only justified by his "might makes right" (meaning ambush them before they know you are coming) mentality. Amos has him dead-to-rights as a sadist and a bully.
I love Amos so much. No bullshit with that guy.
@Reee Monro the only reason that the territory is hostile is that Murtry is there to claim what is "legally" his. Much like George Armstrong Custer in Montana.
Amos recognized Murtry for what he is mainly because they are the same. The only difference is Amos recognized his own moral lacking and so adopts someone he perceives as "good" to be his moral compass, first Naiomi, then later Holden. If Holden asked Amos to do something completely amoral he would with as little hesitation as he does anything else, simply relying on Holden being "good" because he would not be able to really tell the difference himself.
Amos sums up that aspect of his character in one of his earliest conversations with Holden. "If you're asking if I am going to rip your helmet off and throw you into space I can't really give you a reason why I should, or shouldn't, except Naiomi wouldn't like it."
I'm starting Season 5 right now and can't wait to see what they do. I hope Amazon did a good job.
Hey, you have to give SyFy some credit. The show wouldn’t even exist if they hadn’t taken a gamble and greenlit season 1. I saw a great video explaining why they cancelled the show and honestly it made sense. The show was very expensive to produce (SyFy’s accountants called it “The Expense”) and live-viewership when the show aired on SyFy was lower than would be expected for such an expensive flagship show.
Add to that the fact that SyFy weren’t seeing any profits from the showing airing on streaming services, like Netflix, which I’m guessing is how a significant portion of viewers watched the show, and you begin to see why it kind of made sense that they cancelled the show in end.
Yeah but it's fun to make fun of them :p
also, please don't give Besos a hero status. Yes, he saved the series, however easy to do when you are the richest person alive, made possible by not paying your workers enough. You can be a SF geek & lover without being a corporate sellout at the same time.
Man that look on Amos' face gets me everytime. He looks straight out of the Shining, all he needs is an axe
Yeah... and like Jack Nicholson an killer smile!
Such a great show and among the the best, well worth a re watch before season 5 drops.
Great analysis. Cannot wait for season 5!
Loved the season!!! A awesome space opera with in-depth characters and beautiful complex socio-political environment. Hope they bring Miller back...a household favorite
I thought Holden learned that attacking the proto-molecule was exactly what not to do. It’s one of the first things he does after completing the circuit. 🤦♂️
3:40 I will always find it weird how long everything takes to travel. In the books it mentions that going from Earth to Mars takes two weeks, Ceres to Saturn a few months, Ceres to the Ring over four months and the aforementioned a year and a half to Ilus. This is weird as using basic math you can show that it takes a third to a fifth of the time mentioned. At one third G getting to Mars is about three or four days, to Saturn around three weeks, to the Ring Gate about a month and to Ilus anywhere from two to four months.
Thanks for excellent recap. I’ve read the books and forgot where they left off in the show. I subscribed to your channel and was totally bummed to see that Altered Carbon was cancelled. Nooooo Are you sure? I’ll have to watch your video.
It was at the time of making said video yes :(
Jake thanks for the synopsis. The only correction, I think is it was a power plant that failed not a bomb.
Why didnt the protomolecule multiply and overwhelm Holdens ship like it has done everywhere else its been?
I've wondered the same thing.
I'm glad Amazon picked it up, it would have been aa big let down after losing dark mater from syfy
It seems like the SyFy channel keeps the bad shows and cancels the shows that are actually GOOD, the shows that geeks actually love! I loved Dark Matter😐
Agreed with you both, Dark Matter was amazing. Wish it could have stuck around.
I will say, I don't think the journey to Illus took a year. When Avasarala gets a message from Holden, it says that there is a six hour delay. That would mean 6 billion kilometres, which means a few weeks to travel the three billion km to the ring, maybe a day to get out, and a few weeks to get to Illus. So I'm guessing seven or eight weeks.
Cool dude. All I was saying in the books, it takes a lot longer :)
Earth should just annex Mars at this point and make the terraforming into a pet project while focusing on extra solar colonization. Hell, even Venus could probably be terraformed at this point too.
Cara Gee was hardly in Season 4 which was a bit of a disappointment , especially after her character, Drummer , practically stole the show in Season 3.
She's pregnant. I believe she probably delivered the baby already so there will be more of her in season 5
Since Drummer wasn't in book 4, anything we got was a plus.
@@steriopticon2687 What about book 5 ? I need more Drummer
The biggest failing of the show between the book was Murty. There were a lot more that happened that turned his character. The belters ambushed him and killed several of his team before he really turned bad.
Yeah in the show they followed the classic trope of creating a character that's evil for the sake of being evil. A character set up to hate.
@@JakesPlace Thanks for the breakdown. This show deserves the attention.
Love the show. I liked season 4. Looking forward to season 5. I hope the COVID stuff doesn't impact the schedule too much. I wish they would make more episodes per season. I binge watch each season with in a few days. Goes WAY to fast due to the small number of shows each year.
This series is so good and this season was still so good
I didnt get the part where The Rocinante kept towing or pulling the Barb. Can anyone tell me what that was for? Thanks!
So the Roci is a much smaller ship and has far more thrust capabilities outside of their fusion drive and the Barb is very heavy. The gravity from the planet was too great for the barb to get away from as all their large engines are shutdown due to the proto alien tech. So the Roci tried to tow them out of their decaying orbit so they wouldnt plummet into the planet, crash and burn. At the end of the season the proto tech was disabled and both the ships main drives came back online and thus could fly away safely. They could have just transported the people over, but the Barb was full of delicious precious metals that they simply couldn't afford to lose.
@@JakesPlace Ah I understand now! Thank you sir
I think in the first episode they mention it's been 8 months since the rings were open. Also I remember someone says it takes 2 weeks I think to get from the ring station to Ilus. So definitely not 2 years
It takes 18 months to get from Medina to Ilus (I'm not 100% on that one, might actually be 18 months from Earth, but that's pretty clear in the books - they say it will take 18 months for any support to get to them).
No, futuremartian is right. Someone mentioned that it's 2 weeks from Medina Station to Ilus. The books have said that it's a full year's journey from earth to the ring.
Scott Manley discusses speed in one of his videos. Ceres to Saturn is about 2 weeks when they're on the opposite side of the sun. I believe the approx time is 4-6 weeks to get to the ring if you're accelerating & decelerating at 0.3g.
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3 days ago I finished season 3 and watched your summary video yesterday...here I am a day later having finished season 4.
Genuinely, I read in the news this morning the Perseverance is landing on Mars in 2 days and NASA is steaming it live and I thought to myself “Man what’s the point, Mars’ inhabitants are giving up terraforming as the ring gate is open and giving them options. I’m mixing up life and television.
The 3rd lockdown has got to me here in the uk, I need to work again!
Enjoyed this one as well though bud, you funny fucker!
nicely done mate! I agree the EXPANSE is total dope
Murtry's actor was also fantastic is Game of Thrones, just a really good "bad guy".
Hey man, always enjoy your videos. Thanks for the upload :)
Thanks for watching friend.
I do wish they kept baja and the cop from book 1 in the season. It built well on the previous books and made it feel like this book brought closure of sorts.
I hope we get to see Baltimore and Erich's thing. I seriously can't wait for season 5, only finished the book yesterday and will be starting Babylon's ashes next. Damn the books are so fuckin good!
I want to see his little thingy. 🤧
@@karandev9316 I thought you meant Amos for a minute and was like "wtf?"
You missed something; right before Marco spaces ashford he secretly presses the record button on his space suit and basically gets a full confession
I've been doing a reread recently after rewatching the whole show, and it's starting to strike me how the show and the books have drifted apart in a way that they may not easily be able to straighten out. Specifically concerning the character Drummer in the show. This character is essentially made up for the part of the show that exists now. Yes there is a character called Drummer in the books, but up to the point where the show is, she is pretty much just Fred Johnson's security chief in the books, which means that basically only one of her scenes in the show so far really has anything to do with book-Drummer.
Drummer of the show is a sort of composite of Drummer in the books together with Pa and Bull (with Naomi picking up the "being in conflict with Pa" part of Bull's role). The absence of Bull is a pretty clean translation from book to show, but I don't really see how the absence of Pa is going to work out the same way. Pa is a major character in book 6, but I don't see how they're going to just introduce her "from whole cloth" in season 5 when so much of Pa's history was already absorbed into Drummer's character. Is Drummer just going to fully absorb Pa instead? I don't quite see how to make that work smoothly, either. But maybe I'm missing something that the show writers are seeing.
i feel like elvie passing through that orange alien stuff is important and should be mentioned
poor Alex always stays on the ship while the others get more screentime on ground
season 4 might have been slow for Alex but .... there is no beating his piloting skills, especially when working with Holden strategizing in copilot. Alex's position is hands down the one I would want by a long shot - to be the pilot of the ROCINANTE? Are you kidding? Not poor Alex. Boss Alex.
Poor Alex 😆
Great review, Thank you!
Amos Fed That Guy A Well Needed Beat Down
I love this show! thanks amazon for taking over the torch! season 4 is well made! love the characters 😃. best show of the moment! just wonder if there will be an answer in the future about what the spirals are and why "something" happened to a moon? 🤷🏼♂️
S04 could've been better.
So Jake, have they mentioned when they will be putting Session 4 & 5 out on DVD?? I don’t have access to Amazon, saw the fist couple of sessions on UA-cam and loved it. Just recently found they were out on DVD and got them but only 1 - 3.
My first thought after finishing the series was wondering what your thoughts on it would be
Great stuff Jake!
Cheers home slice!
I agree. Book four is the deep breathe before the plunge.
I’m what I like to call Expanse-sexual: meaning I would gladly do Dummer, Bobby, Amos, or practically any other character in the show
I dig this.
Drummer is hot af
Been in self isolation a while, have you?:)
hey you, Jake. I like you. Keep this stuff up, hope you get more subs buddy. Keep it funny 💯
I enjoyed Season 4 very much. I didn't like some of the subplots added for bling value, like the subplot about Bobbie Draper delving into the underworld on Mars. Would have been better if she had accepted a job from Avasarala to investigate tech and ships going missing from Mars or something like that. I sorta knew they would find a way to write her into the storyline given her popularity, but that was unsatisfying to see. At least Drummer wasn't killed off and we will see her in Season 5.
To be fair, that subplot is the subject of a novella that is set at that time, so it is canon, but yeah, in the main line books Bobbie is just absent in this part of the story.
Huh. It's interesting to hear this season described as "low key" relative to the others. I just finished it and I came out thinking things were getting much crazier this season with all the stuff on Terra
I love your work here. good job.
Yo you are awesome. Deserve much more subscribers!
Cheers dude.
When you explain Miller's fate, i realized, anchient aliens or at least some of them didnt die, just how proto molecule absorbed miller's mind it may have this aliens minds too, perhaps its actually them who want to learn what happened their people or even use humanity to get their revenge.
For me, it was new caprica all over again....
If you look at the actual big picture, the Belter's actions were wholly justified no matter how unfortunate. They were entirely correct that the intent of the ship coming there was to evict them and steal their wealth and to do so without the slightest regard for their well being and likely without a care if many or most got murdered.
The Miller Ai didn't 'take the form of Miller'. In order to communicate with Holden, it induced Holden's brain to perceive Miller talking to him. The Ai, any AI in general, has no real 'form', it's a program running on a machine. I think what was supposed to have happened is the entity, whatever got created by the protomolecule and which then kept creating these Miller subprograms, slipped up somehow, maybe had a programming glitch, maybe a bit got flipped by a gamma ray, who knows, so anyway, the Miller AI managed to get past the constraints if normally worked within, like a sandboxed program slipped out of its sandbox. Since the entity used Miller's brain as a template, there was enough of him/his personality in it that it had a mind of its own so to speak and that is what determined its actions in opposition to the entity's 'desires', its programmed goals. Or at least that's my nest guess so far.
dude im binging this show after not watching a single episode until now and this fucking season 4 was so confusing and dull..
but watching your video fucking cleared so much confusion and how the fuck Marco became importantly character lol
Right on dog. Glad I can help :)
Amos spends 95% of his time and weightlessness. How is he built like that? Come to think of it, they are all pretty buff.
Might be a bit of apologetics, but I assume since they’ve been in space for hundreds of years they’ve come up with ways to exercise in 0g, as well as they have some sort of artificial low gravity it seems.
Great review Jake. I have to say though that I wasn't as impressed with season 4 as I thought I would be. Of course I am the only person who feels that way apparently so maybe I need to watch it again. But thanks for the review, Ill look for your season 5 review when it is time.
You're not the only one. A two episode plot, strung out over ten. Felt a bit thin to be honest, and nowhere near as grand as the previous seasons.
Not enough Cara Gee for me .
@@ianrobson9601 There will never be enough Cara Gee. We just have to accept that and move on.
@@ianrobson9601 More Drummer pls
My guess is that Miller finds his way back. If not in Millers head maybe in Elfie's head?
Can you jump in to read book 5 and forward, or is there too many changes from the TV show?
At 6:37 You mention that it's confirmed the belters are the ones responsible for attacking the RCE shuttle, but that's only half true - when the shuttle was still in decent it was attacked by the swarm first (as can be seen with multiple small punctures and impacts throughout the cabin) and the damage isn't consistent with detonating a landing pad (which is on the ground, far below the shuttle). Yes, it's possible that the shuttle was hit with shrapnel from the explosion but if that were the case then there is no reason the show needs to have the swarm at all - the swarm isn't integral to any other part of the plot. I mean why show us - the viewers - the swarm at all if it isn't (at least partially) responsible for bring down the RCE crew when it doesn't feature anywhere else to connect the plot?
Okay so we gonna see one for next season?
Great recap!
I'm giving up on streaming if this show doesn't make it all the way through.
As person who knows what will happen in Babylon's Ashes. I really like The Expanse Season 4 and story line of Klaes Ashford's was awesome nad nostalgic. I am not English native speaker I am Polish this TV show was so awesome that I started read book of this universum in english (two years ago there was no Polish edition). And I have question about one scene in this season episode Saeculum when ''Miller robot was crashed''and Elvi Okoye touch the hole. This scene in this TV SHOW is the same like in book? I am not native english speaker Enligsh and i don't understand everything in books
It's a year and a half from Tycho, isn't it? Medina Station is in the hub space.
"ghost Miller isn't accurate as a term"
literally 30 seconds later: "So ghost Miller....."
No, that was not "literally 30 seconds later."
@@spaaaaace8952 You're right. I think it was more like 2.3 seconds. Time was never my strong suit.
Murtry gets properly screwed over in this season, i completely empathised with him throughout (i may or may not be a touch sociopathic), how else was he supposed to deal with the initial terrorist attack and subsequent knowledge that they planned on killing them all, i mean, the mans got a point.
Finally point, great acting on the part of Burn Gorman, standout of the season for me.
Great recap 👏👏👏👏👏
Great Synopsis !!
Honestly I liked that Murtry kinda acted as pretty much anybody would ofc with less random psychopatic killing. And can somebody explain to me why Mars is working with OPA? I mean the corrupt officials want money... But they are the enemy and I would expect Mars fully focusing on colonizing new planets not giving tech to terrorists that will plunder their colonization efforts through raiding.
This is my favorite channel for The Expanse, however, you sound sober in this video and I enjoy Drunk Jake much more, as in "THE EXPANSE Season 3 EXPLAINED!". 🤣🤣🤣
Very nice recap!
Why did Drummer quit being the head of Medina station? I did not understand that in the show.
Excellent review.
0:01 nightmares with that
I'm in the process of reading the books. In the second book now.
I loved Season 4 as well as Book 4 + Gods of Risk. for me, the only thing that could have made the greatness of Season 4 sweeter, would have been the inclusion of the personal comedy (i won't spoil the specifics) between Holden and Elvi Okoye; and Basia. I really enjoyed his point-of-view chapters., and the pairing of TV show Lucia and Book Basia could spin off their own tv series about ex-OPA tech-and-science savvy Belters setting up self-rule in the lawless frontier.....
But fan-fiction aside season 4 is great, and based on the threads they pulled this season, next season is gonna be massive!!
That would have been nice, but I can see why they didn't have time to include it. Wait 'til book 8 for more Elvi. :)
I smell...the Laconian Empire...
Season 5: The Nemesis Games begin.
You forgot to mention that Marco SPOILER
was a decoy for the splinter Martian faction who will be known as Laconians.
Can't wait for show version of Laconia, really curious what their ships will look like, especially the infamous Heart Of The Tempest
PLEASE leave the spoilers out of this! I have read up to the last book, but others haven't. Leave it up to season / book 4.
I desperately want to know more about the bomb that looked like Sauron.
Do not insult SYFY channel. We wouldn't have The Expanse without it. Just because the economics didn't work for them is no reason to ridicule them!
:D
Great recap. Could "Amos-curious" be considered a sexual orientation?
It must be!
according to my wife, yes.
“Bohbie da baybe” lol