THE ROCINANTE: All Features Explained | The Expanse Ships
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2020
- The Expanse has me addicted beltalowda! Nothing I can do now but just sit back and let the Protomolecule take me. For everything ya'll have been through the past few months in lockdown, I give you this comprehensive breakdown of the Rocinante, the iconic ship, from The Expanse. I think this is the most complete breakdown of the ship's features on the entire internet. Please enjoy and add in anything I missed in the comments below.
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Now do a video on the SDF-1 Macross from SDF Macross. Or the Ptolemios from Gundam 00.
British English is the REAL english. It's like watching Japanese anime with the sub. but American is like anime with the Dub.
Nice try, but just not as good.
You re a riot, Mate!
I caught that too, but, as a descendant of English King, Fatass, Psychopath, and all around dickweed Henry the VIII, I agree with your point #2. 😁
The Expanse is a series of science fiction novels (and related novellas and short stories) by James S. A. Corey, the joint pen name of authors Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck.
You can keep your inertia damper, artificial gravity, and warp drive, the Rocinante has it where it counts. It has a coffee maker.
And a bosmang load of guns.
The white fluid drug is the most realistic form of inertia dampener Ive seen in all of Sci-Fi
@@salzstangl That's what the expanse is about, everything in it is in the realm of possible technology.
@@smally8499234 except the proto-molecule part
@@fredmdbud I said possible technology, the proto-molecule is a lifeform.
Stripey Arse I still think of her as a screaming Firehawk
The show changed completely when they first got The Roci. She is like a fifth crew member. She has a personality. She transforms the human crew into their better selves making them heroes from then on. She completes the crew.
I think the thing I like about both The Expanse and the Roci as a main set-piece is that the ship is just the right size for the main cast.
There are no "background" characters on the Roci, everyone knows everyone, no infinite supply of "potentially new cast member".
The ship is just large enough for the crew to have to interact with each other, but also giving them all space to be alone.
And on top of it all, every deck seems to have a purpose, even if that purpose is a mundane thing like the bathroom.
There are no generic meeting rooms or excessively long hallways just to make up space because nobody actually designs buildings like that.
Its an entirely believable spacecraft in an entirely fictional world.
There is a full crew on during the 6th book. It will have to be included during the 5th or 6th season depending on how they handle the relatively non-action packed 5th book.
Its like the Starbug from later seasons of Red Dwarf.
From the books the SHIPS crew should be about 12 people, with about the same number of tactical marines. Because the Roci is actually a boarding ship not an "escape vessel".
It would be nice if the ship decks were shown more oriented vertically to actually use the "Linear Gravity" to function.
@@theidajawho I've not watched the show in a while but I recall the Roci had a ladder running up the spine of the ship that the crew used to climb between floors? The command deck also uses pretty steep stairs to climb between the cockpit and the other seats.
You missed the newly installed rail gun
I dont think he had seen the last season yet
It wont miss you though :D PEW!
@@grayeaglej Depends on who's at the firing controls and how much they don't like your monologue.
Railgun is standard MCRN Corvette equipment. They just don't USE it until Season 2.
@@SumBrennus It's not standard on the corvette. I don't think it's standard on future corvettes either. It's just not practical in a ship that's supposed to get in close quickly.
Holden should be clever enough to make good use of it though.
The Epstein Drive - it didn't self-destruct.
😂
Wouldn't of in the show Epstein have taken a suicide pill.....its the first time a Epstein killed themselves
But a reactor controller in debug mode can be convinced to drop a mag bottle just fine.
Yes, but not until all surveillance is disabled and all the engineers are sleeping at their posts.
Lol
What I like about The Expanse the most is artificial gravity, they got the science of it right. While most sci-fi shows & movies don't even explain their artificial gravity.
Rob Grenzeback Most sci-fi: Woogety boogety boo, this gravity’s right for you!
@@bigredwolf6 I like how The Expanse's artificial gravity is explained, because it's a simple enough principle that makes sense to someone like me who never went past high-school level physics. I've been rewatching the 2004 Battlestar Galactica, and I also like their explanation for it, which is to say, it isn't mentioned at all. There's gravity on ships, it's there, and no one ever mentions it. The scifi in between is where we wind up with the woogety boogety, and I always have to wonder if these explanations are really worth the audience's time.
suitablyRandom Yep that seems like something humans would do. Take gravity for granted. Not even think of how marvelous it is to even be able to do that
They still have sound in space.
"Hey, you wanna see what happens to a human body when he goes from 0 to 99G's in less than a second?"
Anyone with even the slightest interest in physics would hop on bandwagon.
The gun turrets have thrusters on the rear to counter-act the recoil of firing. Its a little detail nobody would notice missing but you find them throughout the series.
I think it looks more like a recoilless system. Meaning it’s kinda like a double ended barrel.
Looks like a modified recoilless-rifle, never noticed until you mentioned it.
"Standard acceleration of 1 G..."
More of a book thing, but most of the time the Roci flew at a rate of about 0.3-0.5 G when just cruising. Naomi, being a Belter and never having lived down a gravity well, isn't accustomed to a full G, so going a slower speed is better for her overall health. The Cant flew at about the same rates since most of the crew were from somewhere in the Belt, where even on dwarf planets like Ceres the spin gravity only gets up to half a G at most at the outermost areas of the tunnels and the docks.
Just a nitpick, the acceleration is the G, not the "speed". Once they've attained their desired velocity, they can cut thrust, and inertia allows for their momentum to be retained without any further G forces needing to be applied. So, a lower acceleration is better for Naomi, but they can go the same speed regardless of acceleration. It just takes them longer to get up to a given velocity at a lower rate of thrust.
@@Celebmacil That defeats the whole purpose of thrust gravity. Like he said in the video, the standard for travel through space in the show is to accelerate at a constant rate for half of the trip, then execute a flip and burn to decelerate the remainder of said trip. Despite the efficiency of the Epstein, it still takes months to get anywhere in Sol, even a year or more depending on orbital positions. Humans in microgravity for that long can have lots of health issues, so it's better for everyone traveling in space to have some manner of gravity. Just ask Astronaut Mark Kelly.
@@Captain_Reaper Sure, I get that and agree. None the less, a lower rate of acceleration creates lower G, not "going slower". It's just not the same thing.
@@Celebmacil again, that's the point. Accelerate at a slower rate, creating a lower gravity environment.
@@Captain_Reaper I'll take "accelerate at a slower rate" as being correct or close enough to, sure. It's certainly a lot more clear and accurate than "going a slower speed" in this context.
Kind of like how it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop, or it doesn't matter how fast you're going, only how long you take to come to a halt. ;)
I really like the way the AI understands Alex's commands even when he is really vague or speaks in a very familiar way.
This. I cant wait for the day I can tell my computer specific complicated things that only humans can understand nowadays. The roci understands the crews intent. Same with millers AI.
The ship also has a high tech garden. In season 3 episode 2 they use the plants to make temporary air filters.
And actually recycle the carbon dioxide into oxygen again.
Everything on the ship gets recycled.
The prevailing opinion on the internets is that they set it up in the machine shop. There is no garden listed in the books.
The Roci also has an exercise/workout room, mainly used by Bobbie during her stay and perhaps Amos, likely somewhere below the crew quarters and/or galley
I think that was just the machine shop with some exercising equipment deployed and the machinery stashed.
I expected more on the coffee machine, it being the most important feature on the ship and all.
Might do a separate video series. Or a separate channel altogether.
And cup holders. If you have coffee then you have cups. If you have cups then you need .... 👍😊
Fukin' TEA! after he broke the machine I mean.
Actually it's a pretty badass coffee machine. I want one like it.
I have been trying to buy the cups but there sold out everywhere.
Actually the Metric system makes a LOT of sense in space. More so since precision or lack there of is instant death. You don't want to do fancy math gimnastic's where life depends on you getting it right first time every time. Simple is best in this case. just divide by 10 and done.
That's why Nasa uses metric system
They losed some space probes because of errors between internal devices using different measuring systems
But measuring your hull length in BigMacs or wingspan of bald ealgles is way iNtUiTiVe
I'm an engineer and have worked in metric most of my career. No question, it is better but there is a severe cultural barrier particularly in the US. That and I've never got the hang of Celsius.
@DerOldHerr
I didn't say I didn't like it and I totally get what you are saying. From an engineering standpoint I use Celsius all the time (Kelvin not so much but I am Mechanical). I just meant that from a practical, experiential standpoint I have never gotten used to it. It just does not sound right to say that comfortable room temperature is 22 degrees instead of 70. Completely cultural bias.
(I never use F when it comes to work)
@@bebakerus wait what ? what is there to not to get about celsius? zero is the freezing point and 100 is the boiling point of water, it cant get any simpler than that ...
There is no such thing as an unarmed starship. Each starship comes with at least one huge weapon that fires out the aft, usually called "The Engine(s)."
"Firin' up the barbecue!"
And then there's the firefly, whose the weapon is the loudspeaker and the shield is it's shuttle, or what it's carrying.
The comm array is probably a pretty effective weapon too, though they only really show the Nauvoo/Behemoth using the extreme example of it.
@@HeadHunterSix it's talked about in the books, using a laser as a weapon, but the problem ships run into is heat buildup. Lasers are more often used to scramble enemy targeting, something Naomi is really good at.
@@Captain_Reaper indeed. I'm reminded of the Man-Kzin Wars novels, where the failed first contact is only saved by an ingenious use of the ship's comm array.
"Why would he want to look out of a window into a dark abyss when he could use Electronic Tools to see space around him in a far superior way"
See. These people gets it. One random fast meteorite to your window and you say goodbye to everything inside the cockpit.
Although at those speeds any large enough rock would just go through the ship (as seen with the PDC rounds and raylguns)
@@simonfrohlich7766 The roci has more shielding in the front made to compat micro meteorites.
And there is a LOT of random junk that could act as that meteorite
@@jamesblakeley4329 Yeah, I'd be more concerned about all those random nuts and bolts that were lost 50 years in our time, although that's probably a much more earth centeric problem than elsewhere.
Like what the say "windows are structural weakness, the geth don't use them"
Im pretty sure those "miny tablets" you talked about are just the twenty fourth century equivalent of smartphones. I don't think they actually came with the ship.
For sure, these devices are seen all over The Epxanse's universe. But being that they are integrated with the ship's systems, I felt they should be included as a feature of the ship.
Generation Films I’m watching this video right now on my tv streamed from my phone. It would be a bit of a stretch to say the phone is a feature of the tv or wireless network.
@@GenerationFilms I agree that they should have been mentioned, just the way in which they was very easy to misunderstand for people who haven't watched the series
if I remember well, there is some common network in the Sol system, and everyone have their own com device which is looks like the smartphones, but just screens. Not part of the system, but can interface with everything... kinda if you know the password way.
@@eLeM21 I don't know about the books, but there are scenes in the series in which devices have limited functions while being offline, so I don't think that they're just screens, although a lot of the computational power could just as well be of site
The Roci can house MORE than just a dozen people, seeing as the standing crew for her class is 30, not including embarked marines
On a full load short term mission maybe;
12 crew members would be on monthly long solitary patrol or scouts missions with 3x8 rotations of 4 - alternating on duty/off duty and sleeping
Full load is 22 afaik. 16 crew and 6 marines
But you could probably do 18 crew
Or 12 crew and 10 marines
In season 4 the Roci is upgraded with a railgun that houses its own energy storage. Other than that I think you got everything!
In season 4 it also received landing gear
Mistake 1: they run at about 1/3 G or a third of Earth Gravity because thats [though a bit heavy for a belter] a good median range for someone who's been living in Micro G a lot or even born out there. If they were running at 1G all the time, Naomi would probably die [see season 4].
Apple had nothing to do with the user interface on that ship...Samsung maybe, but not Apple. Too intuitive
Its not a luxury ship, its a combat ship...combat ships have minimal creature comforts.
Also, look again, thats not the command deck where Amos is pulling staples, thats the machine shop.
That wasn't a Martian...he was a cybernetic hacker/spy, probably from earth.
The docking tube doesn't ferry ships, its not strong enough. They use a remote system override to fire the Razorback's thrusters to keep it even with the Roci. Also, thats the main crew airlock. The tube is part of the assembly, just not used all the time.
Shes double hulled. The exterior is bigger than the internal crew space [as seen when Amos attempts repairs during the battle of Thoth station, and later on they mount the machinery and power systems for a rail gun between the hulls so it doesn't take up any internal space in the crew, and also doesn't hang out of the ship except for the parts that have to to fire the gun.
The manuvering thrusters use water for reaction mass, superheated by feeds from the main reactor.
Someone read the books, too :P
@@simonfrohlich7766 yep, no kidding.
Great job
Amazingly the thrusters are efficient enough for ssto operations for what we've seen on s4. That ought to be a hell of a heat transmission system
@@claxvii177th6 if i remember correctly the book sais they use the main drive to land wich is more logical and beliveable
I didn't have book knowledge when I first watched The Expanse , so it took a few episodes to adjust my thinking about the orientation of the Expanse ships in that they have stacked decks like high rises, unlike most other scifi series. Then gravity and the flip and burn maneuvers clicked and made sense.
Using the metric system: welcome to the rest of the world Ben.
😡😡😡🤬
@@GenerationFilms the downside for the rest of the world is the United States has been on both metric and imperial standard since the early 1990s. So much so that the US can dictate law in Europe for packaging and selling products. In the US we can freely sell anything to anyone because all our products have both systems on them, but Europe must add both to all packaging by law in order to be allowed to sell outside of their own home country.
@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM i have never seen this. When european states trade with eachother theres only kilograms and the like.
@@00784865 check out plumbing supplies - many fixtures in europe are in english units. By the way, US measurement units are actually defined in terms of metric units - so when you use inches and feet you are actually using a variation on metric.
Never tell us Americans that!
Soloman died when the epstien drive didnt kill itself...
Under-fucking-rated.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 high G burn
He shot him self twice in the head before he died from high Gs
@@djsonicc "Most brutal suicide I've ever seen" - said the impartial detective.
What is halo without the UNSC Infinity, a really solid trilogy. Should of said the Pillar of Autumn or Forward Onto Dawn but yeah hindsight is 20/20.
I don't see the Pillar of Autumn ramming a covenant ship tho
@@kerninjathefrog6569 But it did blow up a halo ring.
@@Raeinok yeah but then so could anything with an overloaded nuclear reactor
@@kerninjathefrog6569 A Fusion bomb (invented in 20th century) is an overloading nuclear reactor, just less dramatic
@@kerninjathefrog6569 I've actually questioned that, what kind of yield does it have. From Halo Pedia ~ The surface of each ring is 318 kilometers wide,[61] with a depth of 22.3 kilometers[62][63] to 47 kilometers. Seems kinda crazy that it would destroy it as easily as it did.
"And thus allows the ship to sustain thrust all the way to uranus and beyond if necessary" Nice.
Try reading the books...they help a lot.
The Rocinante was named after Don Quixote's horse and the story was one of Holden's favorites growing up.
She was a torpedo bomber that would fly escort with her sister ships, providing cover for the Donnager, not an escape craft. That's why her hanger was so big. If I recall correctly, the Doni carried 3 corvettes like the Roci. It never says why there is more room for the Cant's shuttle when they pick her up after the Cant goes boom.
When fleeing the battle that killed the Doni, they did a 12 gee burn causing most of the crew to blackout (usually happening around 9 geese for us wella wellas, but I don't know how the belters handled it seeing as most of them spent most of their time at .6 gees).
The Juice was a rough ride. The drugs to counteract the effects of it were even worse.
But you did a damn good job with what you had.
Yeah I remember that jim had said that he haid the worst cramps in human history and that his hole body hurt for hours after the drugs stoped.
Its also the name of a ship from a Rush song. Not sure if the author is a fan though.
@@zkeletonz001 Yes, Neil Peart named the ship in Cygnus X-1 after Don Quixote's horse. He just did it 40 years earlier. And that ship disappeared into a black hole.
@@thomasking5472 Its cool to see it written on the ship.
When they picked up the Canterbury's shuttle pretty sure in both the books and TV show they only had one corvette inside the hanger which Holden and the others took to escape. That is why they had room for the shuttle because the hanger was nowhere near fully loaded.
What’s HALO without the infinity?
Human extinction probably.
bigredwolf6 Considering the UNSC Infinity is a post war ship your statement is factually incorrect, not to mention that the UNSC’s new line of ships also consist of energy shields such as the Autumn class light cruiser and the Strident class frigate. Seeing that the UNSC are now technological equals and with the covenant and seeing how the covenant are in complete disarray humanity are the dominant force and with or without the Infinity would be just fine
Whats Halo without the infinity?
A very compelling story
ONI If the humans didn’t have that absolute beast of a ship, they’d be significantly weaker.
Edit: and without it, the humans probably would’ve gotten owned by cortana and her robot buddies
bigredwolf6 The only reason the covenant were dominating humanity during the war was due to their technological superiority and because of their numbers, it was said that for every one covenant ship you’d need 3 UNSC ships. That’s no longer the case, in fact I’d argue that with the UNSC’s superior ships and numbers they’d dominate with or without the Infinity.
Post war the Sangheli are fucked, they’re no longer creating vessels because the people they relied on to do so are dead or running. They can’t maintain their ships because the huragok they relied on to do so are dead or with humans, they’re recovering from a civil war and their society still consists of clans. They have no central government to control their efforts at rebuilding and they have no doctors, farmers or engineers. They’re in other words completely fucked and just making it by. The only other Sangheli faction capable at making a dent are also now in complete disarray and Atriox is no where to be seen.
Zerebrat Eightyseven also the “Eternity” hasn’t been fully constructed, the parts from Eternity were used to speed up the construction of the Infinity, it was also being built at earth which is now under control of the created. We aren’t seeing it anytime soon.
Rocinante was the name of Don Quixote's old horse, meaning something like, used to be a good horse.
It's actually closer to Rossin = "broken down work horse" and Ante = "before". So "used to be a broken down work horse", the implication being that now it's a knights steed. 😊
Its also a line of a song from Rush.
I believe, by the way, that it's Holden who proposes the name Rocinante. Which fits with his self-identity as a knight errant on a hopeless quest to right all wrongs.
Rocinante: que rocina.-
Verbo neutro intransitivo. Este termino metafórico en la actualidad se encuentra desusado, se refiere en rebuznar, roznar, relinchar o emitir en una voz característico de los caballos, es decir hacer el rocín, propio y característico de este tipo de caballería.
@@batllecat23 So, a neighing steed...
5:52 The Roci's max Delta V is entirely theoretical after she receives upgrades between season 3 and 4. She was already able to kill her crew at max thrust, even more so now.
If you want it faster eject the crew on some capsule and remote-control the ship
I doubt that that refit made her faster/more efficient, quite the opposite actually, as it added a whole lot of weight. And I strongly doubt that those atmospheric thrusters would be anywhere near efficient, especially in vacuum
@@petermuller7687 that wasn't the point, in space the atmo thrusters don't do much for acceleration, only manuvering, so the engine upgrade they got completely offset the gain in mass to the point that @stickman is correct, and the Roci could conceivably obliterate any personnel on board while accelerating in the void.
@@ginganinjav5220 Which engine upgrade? They didn't get one.
@@petermuller7687 It's explicit in the books, but not in the show, that before season 4 they got a massive ship upgrade when the got the railgun, including an engine overhaul powerful enough to pull something like 25 gs if they wanted.
"Let me show you it's features". *Laughs in German*
DARKBRINGER Today I’m gunna show you this attachment I built. I call it the Realistic MAC
Nice!
Rubber band powered rail gun?
Ah, another disciple of jeorg Sparv in the chat! He is my spirit animal. He is all of us, our spirit animals.
DragonSword He’s our spirit slingshot
Correction: Martians and Belters usually cruise at a leisurely 1/3 Gee, including the Rocinante, because their bodies did not develop to cope with higher gravity, and everyone needs special drugs to survive high burn.
Martians burned 1g constantly during the short war to match the UN ships, Martian marines can do 1g burns as they train in 1g.
@Stripey Arse YES, WE ARE!
@@cumguzzler8537 id that doesnt sound like a cruise to me
God I love how when the larger ships slow down they actually turn and use their main thrusters at first. So cool
Thank you for giving us these videos during quaratine
Welcome! 😁 Thanks for watching!
The biggest thing I love about the show is how the protagonists have an awesome situation. They came into their own awesome gunship, lots of money and are regarded as badasses by pretty much the whole system. It’s a premise that so much fan fiction is written about and it’s just fun and awesome. It’s nice to see the main characters not always be the underdogs.
American Ben is in love with the Expanse. lol
😁🤷🏼♂️True.
Each time I say "Remember the Cant" in my head I want to rewatch the entire series
Hey American Ben nice clip choice for the thrust.
Alrighty then.
😁
Well, the Roci now has landing legs to land on planet surfaces and a sweet sweet railgun. Also new paintjob :P
Landing legs should be standard issue actually as (at least in the books) it is a standard feature (as far as I remember)
@@simonfrohlich7766 Well in the books she lands on her keel which honestly doesnt make that much sense.
@@reldies5364 Read the books too and I would assume they land on the keel because the ship would be too high upright and therefor be susceptible to toppeling from winds, earthquakes or other environmental factors as it is basically a highrise without a real foundation
@@simonfrohlich7766 True although we already have rockets that can do that to day, which is probably why they changed it in the TV series.
Also they dont have an after thruster except their epstein drive so maybe they could use other engines better when landing keel sided.
Loving your Expanse content!
(I think you forgot the Roci's gym ;)
Thanks!
Nice video, but quick side note: The ship accelerates at about 0.3g to simulate the gravity on Mars and most space stations instead of 1g.
Yup, this is because its a Mars ship and Martians find 1g hard to deal with without training, gear, and meds.
Poor Holden's feet gotta hurt for months whenever he gets back to earth.
Barry It’s better than half the crew getting squashed all the time.
Valeri Polyakov was on the MIR space station (0g) for 438 days and still could come back to earth.
There are multiple possible reasons to fly slower. Maybe its to safe fuel. Besides that its really comfortable and relaxing to weigh less.
@@salzstangl If you watch any videos on astronauts returning to earth, what they're doing is absolutely not "walking just fine".
Hey love your work thanks for putting in the effort truly an inspiration 😊
Thanks for watching so early!
😁🙏
Had already consumed all the expanse content before you started deep diving it but highly grateful for your take on it in this corona virus homeward bound 420
I love 420. Especially watching The Expanse.
Star Trek without the Enterprise is Deep Space Nine. And Deep Space Nine is amazing.
Color Commentary I disagree. Lol I thought it was an absolute chore to watch. Still better than disco and Picard.
I would argue that the defiant was a big improvement though end especially the later parts are in my opinion the better ones
Simon Fröhlich it was a big improvement but I couldn’t get attached to the characters I think all the bajoran crap is what did it in for me.
Totally agree with you Color Commentary! Sisko didn’t have to consult every member of the crew to make a decision! And he used violence and force when things needed to be done! Best Star Trek Captain!
Brother Ralphius that my friend was the only redeeming thing I got out of DS9.
Once again Ben you out did yourself! An interesting and informative video and you managed to fire up the old hormones wearing that muscle tee! I also love the Expanse and if I could binge watch the entire series in quarantine with anyone, it would have to be you, you sexy beast! Please be safe and keep producing these fine videos!
"Eros the angry space bean" the best line ever
Looks like a Taiidan ship from the game Homeworld.👍
Looks like the Kushan Heavy Cruiser instead
12:39. Amos didn't pull Prax's staples on the command deck. That's his machine shop, somewhere below the med bay but above the cargo bay.
TheDetailsMatter I was checking to see if anyone else noticed that! Well done 👍😂
Came to the comments to address this, because in fact, the details do matter. :)
Which means on the way down there they went past the med bay and decided to do it in the workshop...
I'm trying to decide if I'm more impressed that someone mentioned this, or that so many people commented that they were going to say it... which means they actually checked the comments before posting.
Great job. Very funny and informative. What an amazing ship, and show.
There is no mistakes. Pure awesomenes. I'm glad you like the expanse, i'm looking forward more videos as always xd
That sweet rail gun in season 4. "Take that blue goo."
Not bad :-) The roci is a nice ship that's for sure and she can punch way above her weight, which Holden does quite often. I wouldn't mind spending some time there but usually that means you're SOL and quite desperate...
Another genius video. You are at another level. Thanks for all the work.
Informative and funny, nice work!
when you started talking about the system interfaces and how the tablets and handhelds worked with the ship I had a thought. The Martians built their ships independent of any Earth based contracting agency, they built them from the ground up and were designed by the most brilliant minds in the system.
given that martian tech was singular in its production and purpose, it could be fully integrated and proprietary to only the martian military.
talking about how they are networked from the frame of mind of the present you do get bluetooth and wifi sort of idea. Also keep it in the frame of mind it is a military ship too
American Ben: "I'm relying on you, the internet, to correct my mistakes." What could possibly go wrong?
I'm amazed at the amount of detail they have put into ships' designs. Everything makes sense and it really seems like they took current ships found on earth like carriers, destroyers, frigates, etc. and just put them upright and made less flat.
Nice! Thanks, keep them coming.
You left out everything from the newest season, including fun things like swapping out one of the torpedo launches with a freaking railgun!! Oh and also they refitted it to land on planets.
They didn't swap out a torpedo launcher to install the railgun. The torpedo launchers are located on top of the ship where as the railgun was keel mount between the comms arrays. The show took liberties with how the Roci lands as well. She was always capable of atmo flight and landing, the show had here land vertically were as in the book she actually lands on her belly.
@@L8ugh1ngm8n1 Her landing on her belly just seems silly to me. For one it massivly restricts the design of the internal compartments seeing as they'd have to be using in two orientaitons instead of one plus freefall.
@@TheAkashicTraveller Might seem silly but doesn't really change the fact that that is indeed how she lands in the books.
'The compartment they stood in looked like a storage room laid on it's side. The lockers ran parallel to the ground, rather than vertically, and there was a small hatch on either wall, with what looked like a ladder running across the floor'
That's a description of the inside of the Roci after Basia is taken onboard to leave Illus.
The books also never at any point state that the Roci had been upgraded with the ability to land, Fred Johnson does tell Holden that one of the reasons he was chosen was because the Roci was rated for Atmo they however do talk about the Railgun being an upgrade.
Given that there is a level of intelligent design for the ships in the show it's safe to assume and again hinted at that the ships and interiors still work or have features to mitigate issues caused by belly landing.
@@TheAkashicTraveller I think the problem with landing upright would be balancing the ship as it is basically a high rize without a foundation (does not sound like a good idea) and they could not assume there to allways be some sort of ankerplace at the landing site
I feel like the acceleration of the rosinate would have to be less than 1g normally right ?
Considering that naomi is a belter and thus her body doesn't handle earth like gravity well at all.
Its also possible that in normal flight they are under 0g. They would accelerate to some desired speed and then turn off the engines in order to save fuel. Given they have time to spare,
@@BuriBuster I doubt they would just turn the engines considering how it's stated how fuel efficient the engines of the era are, as well as the constant acceleration able to giving off a stable source of artificial gravity.
Okay, I gotta give this a thumbs up just for the onboard barbecue, though now I have to try to clean rum and coke from my keyboard
Show still rocks. Can’t wait to plow through the books. I love to nerd out on these tech spec vids. Thanks. Appreciate the Pikerd comment especially now.
0:35 Star Trek Picard has left the chat
The Roci ~ also has an AI intel, command centre that the XO-Namoi and Cap' James Holden can access
The Belta impression had me rolling!
I've just started watching The Expanse and I'm already in love with the ROCINANTE :D
to add to this! I found that they use magnetic boots rather than thrust to walk around
You missed: The new Rail-gun, the new planetary landing struts, the new PDC armaments.
The martians, unlike earthers, are trained not to pee on their hands.
Also, I am pretty sure, the guy who was not washing his hands was an earther ... and we know they have problems washing their hands ....
That was awesome!
That was very entertaining, just the right level of sarcasm & pseudo science, luckly I came across the series when they were halfway through the 2nd last episodes so we could binge watch it during lock down here in Australia & only had to wait for the last episodes as they became available to everyone else. I also got interested in watching people making fan based replicas of craft from animated movies & games out of every day items & as I couldn't afford a decent model of the Rocinante I thought as a 1st project I would start with it, what could go wrong, so now I am scouring the UA-cam for clear pictures of said ship & will make it up from there, this video was a good start, cheers.
You kind of missed the railgun in the latest season. Though that is a modded in feature and maybe you were going for standard features.
Those 'mini tablets' where called 'terminals' in the books, basically a futuristic smartphone that seemed to be able to interact with any technology.
Dude that Belter Creole was practically spot on. That deserves a follow
Hey, American Ben- you’ve got me so excited for this show, now! I remember a few months back, I watched an approximately 10 minute preview ad for it, and was really looking forward to it, and then it said that it was only on this one streaming service, so I figured I’d never actually see it. But at this point, f%#k that! I’ll buy a subscription to whatever service it is (I don’t remember for some reason- damned covid!) because everything you’ve been presenting about it just looks so awesome. Thanks for all your videos promoting this- hopefully by Wednesday or Thursday, I will have already watched every episode. I hope you and your loved ones are safe and healthy-
Hey, thanks for your comment. I highly recommend watching this show on Amazon Prime if you have it or can afford it. I know a lot of people tend to use...questionable tactics to watch shows for free...but the creators of The Expanse put so much effort into making this show look and sound good that it's really worth it to watch it on Prime where you can enjoy it at its highest quality. The visuals are just so detailed it's worth the price of admission, especially being that you get plenty else with Prime too. And let me be clear, they don't pay me anything to say that, actually I pay them, a lot lol.
Generation Films Haha- no worries, man - stuff that good, I like to support, so I’ve got no problems paying them for their efforts. And like you said, there’s plenty of other good content as well. Thanks for responding!
You also get those tidbits of info about the scenes and actors I love reading about with prime as well. It's a nice additional thing you can see along with all the shows on prime.
Brian O'Connell oh, really? That’s cool- I haven’t subscribed yet (waiting for my paycheck) but I hadn’t heard that. Groovy! Thanks!
“What is Halo without the UNSC Infinity?” A better game trilogy is what it was before H4 and H5. The Banshees, Longswords, Pelicans, and Covenant Cruisers were iconic to the franchise long before the Infinity.
"What is Halo without the UNSC Infinity?"
Yikes. I would hardly call the Infinity an icon of Halo.
Being able to say "sustaining thrust all the way to Uranus and beyond" without so much as a smirk - you sir, are a consummate professional 👌
I'm really gratified that you realized the communication arrays were that. I saw a video once saying it was stupid the weapons were facing forward given you would usually enter battle engines forward...
The premise isn't true, but still, the PDCs and torpedos can go any direction necessary.
Awesome video, though for things you missed or potentially more things you could add would be the modifications made to it on approach to Eros to look like a helium freighter, the little plant shrine in the galley and garden under the eating table, the modifications made to it in season four to include a forward facing railgun and landing gear capable of unassisted planetary landings. Finally, maybe mention some of its design relationships and tandem operations it shares with the Donnager and Morrigan class ships and how the PDC grid of an entire fleet can be controlled and coordinated from the Flagship's Banisher supercomputer developed in the city of Londres Nova on Mars. Check out the youtube channel SpaceDock he has great videos on all the ships of the Expanse
Imagine if we had a human vs alien movie like avatar except both factions are done well and not dumbed down.
PRAISE_KEK Done well how? Like including splinter groups that sue for peace or have the career warfighters actually display some tactical sense?
@@bigredwolf6 tactics and to have something else to their factions other than venurable yet heroic native and explotive evil corporative.
PRAISE_KEK Congratulations, you’ve just out movied Hollywood. They’d give you an Oscar for best story. Well they would if only they didn’t get so triggered by a cartoon frog.
The Navi would have had to have Space capabilities. Of you have one race able to control the orbit, then you can't win. Look up "Rods from God".
For the TL;DR version, here is a summary: A 10 meter long tungsten rod with a reentry cone is launched from orbit and reenters the atmosphere and delivers as much force as (I think) a 500 ton bomb, or over 10 times the force of a MOAB. They have simple electronics, and once they get to speed, those electronics are redundant anyway. They're cheap, their simple, and you can spam them without ANY nuclear fallout. Navi get together... drop a Rod. Navi problem solved.
@@FoxMagi I know the rods of God or Thor's Hammer. But to be fair the humans do have a large monopoly over space so I doubt anything like spacefaring will do well for the Navi.
Yeah yeah yeah, more of this!!!
Everything about this video is just yes
13:49 that means something very different in Scotland
Haha thanks for reminding me to correct that, British Ben explained my mess up last night. I'm going to post a comment at the top.
😂😂
Check the UA-cam channel Spacedocks. They have great episodes on the ships in the Expanse
Primo American Ben content!
Looked good, this was fun video
More expanse vids
As if you had a choice😂😂. Oh they're coming! 😁😁
Spacedock? ...................... Force Recon
Great video. Thanks!
You missed this detail: Normal ship's lighting scheme is red light, while battle-mode lighting is blue. This is the reverse of modern day wet navy traditions, where a longer and less energetic wavelength is used during combat to minimize the chance an adversary might spot the lights at a distance. Martian ships, however, as you have pointed out, don't have windows.
Mars being "The Red Planet," it just makes sense Martians would consider red light more calming.
Yeah, I tried to give this feature a quick nod at the end of the video with the "power down Alex" and then showing the ship turn from blue to red lighting. I suppose I could have fleshed that out a bit more. Good point.
This would be great if he just pulled back on the "Witty" jokes and comments.
Well said
Totally agree, it was agonizingly cringe inducing.
Really wanted to stretch the video somehow.
He's funny, don't ignore the self deprecation inherent in the jokes and basically try not to be such a killjoy. No sci fi pun intended. But a little self deprecation was.
Why?
11:05 "I'm guessing this could be Apple's handiwork"
How dare you insult the Roci and the MCRN so! The dusters would never let Apple near their tech. They'd have to read to the end of the EULA and agree to it before the guns would work. The system would hang every few seconds whenever Alex tried to scroll through his list of music. Every 6 months there'd be an update nobody asked for that took a day and a half to install and broke backwards compatibility.
@Max Bardus It comes from personal experience, my friend. I've been forced to deal with iTunes in the past when it was the only platform where I could get a favorite show etc. Not an experience I want to repeat.
American Ben is being nice and treating us as equals..... Quarentine must be getting to him. I miss the condescension.
4:57 *Alex in Zero G*
One of the best moments and actors of the series
The communication array uses lasers. Something that comes up in the books a lot is that targeting lasers for torpedos or point guns are revived the same way.
For ship and torpedo controls the set designers used a common piece used in the 3D-industry called a "space mouse". Although I was kinda irritated to see this iconic tool featured in a TV show, it makes PERFECT sense: it's a piece of hardware meant to manipulate virtual 3D objects in any direction / position. Well done, Expanse production team! And thanks for your ship breakdown. Should have watched your video earlier. So it took me nearly a complete re-run of the show until I realized that something is different about the ships layout.
Bravo to the writers generation films you guys are the true heroes
All the jokes had me dying
This is one of the most well thought out ships in sci-fi.
Big thumbs up for all the R&D u did based on just watching the series 👍
Plus one for the beltaloda slang😜
Just a shame he doesn't love the show as much as we do and as the show deserves. A fan of The Expanse would never wait this long to watch Season 4. As others here have pointed out, he doesn't mention anything from Season 4 including things that are extremely relivent to this content.
I love your videos.
sweet video! enjoyed the accent:) I started reading the books after finishing the show, seem very similar, almost just want to watch the show again!
Great vid/content pal, i'm also of the opinion that the expanse is one of, if not the, best sci-fi shows ever! The Roci's a badass ship 👌🏼