I was fortunate to have been watching a CP RAIIL FREIGHT TRAIN going through the spiral tunnel and had a picture of the ENGINE GOING OVER ITS OWN CABOOSE. Moved a couple times and cant find it, but have it somewhere. CABOOSE
Thanks Sorry about the wind. I protected the mike against the wind but you can do just so much. Also, it offered to "correct the shake" and some of captions now dance around. The place in between the tunnels is called YOHO in the CPR timetables and I forgot to add it to the movie. My latest video is about a 16-inch gauge train in a Calgary park MTC G-16 if you're into this. I prefer to show the engineering side of trains, rather than just pretty pictures and that one has some of the mini-train features.
You can still do the run today (summer only) with the Rocky Mountaineer. Look up their site online. The service is superb and Gold Leaf is the best ($$$). We were fortunate that our car with A gallery was at the tail end, but that’s not guaranteed. The company promotes it as : The trip of a lifetime”. All is included, including overnight hotel, except personal expenses. The trip takes 2 days and it’s all done during daylight. Worth every penny. Eastbound, the trip now stops at Banff, back then, it was Calgary. But, the company will transport you to and from Calgary from Banff (about 1.5 hr away). Calgary International airport (YYC) receives most major airlines. There’s also a US Consulate, for those who need it.
You're welcomes. Sorry for the wind and the clunking. nothing I could do. I should have labeled the point just before going uphill, it's YOHO. More details, email me.
the wind did not bother me. I watched another video on the subject and it was from a distance and you really didn't have any idea of what was going where and why. So your video with the little map was very nice.
Massey Jones , the Wind was great , but you need more Trees . I like the Video the way it is just fine , it does not have to be perfect . You caught an exciting part of the trip that I will never get a chance to Travel on . Thanks a Bunch .
@afzx960 You are absolutely right. The rail runs parallel to the Kicking Horse River, so named because a horse kicked geologist James Hector. From Field MP136.6, the rail ascends along a sandy portion (which becomes a raging torrent in the spring) and passes though the Mount Stephen tunnel. About 10 years ago, there were 4 wooden snowsheds (2 before and 2 after this tunnel), replaced circa 2000 by a concrete tunnel, in the worst rockslide part. Refs: CPR Laggan Sub & Cdn Topo map 82N/8
Thanks for looking at my site.Actually, the Yellowhead Highway (Alberta #16), comes out of Edmonton is 4 hours north, so passengers are not too likely to see it from the Spiral Tunnels.The highway below is the Trans-Canada (Alberta #1). from coast-to-coast, actually 8,030 kilometres (4,990 mi) across the country,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Highway_16en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Canada_HighwayThe nearest town to the spiral tunnels (about 7 miles away down a very steep hill hill on the T-C), is Field, BC and, as the train climbs out of field, it overlooks the Yoho Valley, which is traversed by the Trans-Canada. The Bow River (which eventually reaches Calgary an beyond), flows through the valley floor. This is what passengers encounter for awhile.The train then goes briefly trough the Mount Stephen Tunnel (also called the "nose tunnel" and it is on the CPR mainline used 24/7/365, otherwise by mile-long freight (average 150 cars), before (or after the Spirals. The steepness of the climb (or descent) is the very reason why the Spiral Tunnels were constructed, trains struggled to bet uphill, even with a pusher engine and tended to runaway downhill. One must not confuse the Rocky Mountaineer trains.Run by the same company, one train departs Vancouver north to Jasper. While it's mountainous country, it's mostly flat and forested. It uses the CN mainline for most of its journey (except out of Vancouver)The other train goes uses mostly the CPR mainline (built across Canada in 1888) from Vancouver to Banff and it is the most spectacular, with mountain, tunnels and a lot of climb for a good portion, especially in the Rogers Pass area. There is desert along the way and the spiral tunnels, as well as the Stoney Creek Bridge, which is about 300 ft above the valley floor and for which the train slows down to give passengers a good view of the scenery below.Without being commercial here, the company offers a round trip links Banff to Jasper by bus along Highway 93. It's severely uphill for a good portion north but absolutely spectacular with mountains on each side and the Athabasca Glacier (now severely receded because of climate change), in final leg. The area is so wild that Highway 93 is sometimes closed in winter because of snow conditions.
Many thanks to all those who saw the video and a special thanks to those who gave “thumbs up”. It was one of the first videos I put online and the corrections are not mine. Sorry about the flat wheel on our car, I am shooting from the balcony of a double- deck Gold Leaf car and absolutely had to be inside through the tunnels mfj
I guess this post come up today because of people's interest is the spiral tunnels after the early morning fatal derailment on Monday February 4, 2019 near Fields B.C..
Select "Canadian Railway Tunnels" at "Your Railway Pictures" and you'll get a very good topo map which can be enlarged, as well as some views of the Spirals which I submitted. The middle part between the tunnels is YOHO, going up the hill eastbound. Thanks for your kind comments.
Long train for a passenger train? How many cars? Views must be fantastic? Need to do this one time before the bucket list expires. Thanks for posting rest video.
Absolutely a lifetime ride you’ll never forget. For a fairly low $$$; you are treated royally all the way and it includes accomodation at Kamloops (depending in comfort on your train ticket class) and meals on board. It’s a 2-day “daylight only” trip. Hopefully for all, there’s good weather; but sometimes a little rain in some places during the trip. Best time (and the busiest), is July-August. The train now picks up and drops everyone at Banff and those going to Calgary do so by limo, included into the excursion fare. The Gold Leaf is the highest class, and the one with the most privileges. you are assigned a seat in the upper part of the double deck car and free snacks and drinks are frequent. The lower class sits at tree level, but everyone is highly comfortable, with superior service.
It would be interesting to see a large steam locomotive travel that route and get some drone footage of it because of the darn trees blocking the view.
No comments for a year but I'll add one anyway. After passing the Partridge siding slide area someone says "Is that the Yellowhead Highway down there." Was it me or did someone say, "Yes". Sorry folks not the Yellowhead. That's TransCanada 1. Still can't believe people think it's one tunnel when it's called, even if erroneously, spiral tunnelS.
Great vid! I was never sure if there was a siding between the 2 tunnels...but I guess I have my question answered now. I have to ask a question...that snow shed you passed in this beside the river (I guess that's the Kicking Horse River?)...that's below the Spiral Tunnels, right?
I have always regretted, not inserting that siding name into the video. It’s Yoho; listed into the employee timetable. There’s never any meet there, as each tunnel is single-tracked; but it’s a place for freight trains to wait, while one makes it through the tunnels.
You're not offending me. That's what the tunnels have been called since they were first constructed. That's also what Parks Canada calls them. That's what everybody calls them. www.okthepk.ca/dataCprSiding/news/2009/09060903.htm Sorry if you were taken aback. I'll agree with you that they should be called "Helical Tunnels" or "Helix Tunnels". But in 1909, the word "Helix" was not in fashion, except in university laboratories, as in "Helical Coils". "What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet" (Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1594)
The dictionary definitions of "spiral" that I have looked at include this usage: consider, for example, the phrases "spiral staircase," or "spiral binding" (like you can get at Kinkos), all of which are perfectly acceptable.
It's the Rocky Mountaineer. They're based out of Wankhoover, BC and offer fairly pricey scenic tours on a small variety of runs, in British Columbia, and into Alberta. The only thing you'll get for free is a peek at their website. rockymountaineer dot com
I hope I don't offend anyone--the term SPIRAL is a misnomer as by definition a spiral is a curve of continuously varying radius as opposed to a helix which is a curve of constant radius on a grade or varying altitude. I understand the use of the name given the use for spiral staircase and other uses. Just being correct
Roy Reynolds you sound more like you are just being a know it all. In which case you should know Massey Jones is not the one who applied the term spiral to this situation. So why give him a lesson in geometry? I'm sure nobody cares but you. Deal with it.
I did NOT use automatic stabilization, it was done by The UA-cam people, who warned me that the video was not “steady”. It was against my better judgement. Actually, it’s one of my earlier videos. If it was to be published again, I’d do things differently, brought on by experience.
SUPER BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
love the flat spots on your passenger car. would drive me nuts after a couple hours
I was fortunate to have been watching a CP RAIIL FREIGHT TRAIN going through the spiral tunnel and had a picture of the ENGINE GOING OVER ITS OWN CABOOSE. Moved a couple times and cant find it, but have it somewhere. CABOOSE
worked in those tunnels.very dark,very cold and very much fun.it was a good job
Thanks
Sorry about the wind.
I protected the mike against the wind but you can do just so much.
Also, it offered to "correct the shake" and some of captions now dance around.
The place in between the tunnels is called YOHO in the CPR timetables and I forgot to add it to the movie.
My latest video is about a 16-inch gauge train in a Calgary park
MTC G-16 if you're into this.
I prefer to show the engineering side of trains, rather than just pretty pictures and that one has some of the mini-train features.
No apologies needed, great video of a historic spot
That's amazing thanks so much ! Always wanted to see the spiral tunnels ! 🤗🤗🤗
You can still do the run today (summer only) with the Rocky Mountaineer. Look up their site online. The service is superb and Gold Leaf is the best ($$$). We were fortunate that our car with A gallery was at the tail end, but that’s not guaranteed.
The company promotes it as : The trip of a lifetime”. All is included, including overnight hotel, except personal expenses. The trip takes 2 days and it’s all done during daylight. Worth every penny.
Eastbound, the trip now stops at Banff, back then, it was Calgary.
But, the company will transport you to and from Calgary from Banff (about 1.5 hr away). Calgary International airport (YYC) receives most major airlines. There’s also a US Consulate, for those who need it.
Thanks for the ride
You're welcomes.
Sorry for the wind and the clunking. nothing I could do.
I should have labeled the point just before going uphill, it's YOHO.
More details, email me.
the wind did not bother me. I watched another video on the subject and it was from a distance and you really didn't have any idea of what was going where and why. So your video with the little map was very nice.
Massey Jones , the Wind was great , but you need more Trees . I like the Video the way it is just fine , it does not have to be perfect . You caught an exciting part of the trip that I will never get a chance to Travel on . Thanks a Bunch .
@afzx960
You are absolutely right. The rail runs parallel to the Kicking Horse River, so named because a horse kicked geologist James Hector.
From Field MP136.6, the rail ascends along a sandy portion (which becomes a raging torrent in the spring) and passes though the Mount Stephen tunnel. About 10 years ago, there were 4 wooden snowsheds (2 before and 2 after this tunnel), replaced circa 2000 by a concrete tunnel, in the worst rockslide part.
Refs: CPR Laggan Sub & Cdn Topo map 82N/8
Thanks for looking at my site.Actually, the Yellowhead Highway (Alberta #16), comes out of Edmonton is 4 hours north, so passengers are not too likely to see it from the Spiral Tunnels.The highway below is the Trans-Canada (Alberta #1). from coast-to-coast, actually 8,030 kilometres (4,990 mi) across the country,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Highway_16en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Canada_HighwayThe nearest town to the spiral tunnels (about 7 miles away down a very steep hill hill on the T-C), is Field, BC and, as the train climbs out of field, it overlooks the Yoho Valley, which is traversed by the Trans-Canada. The Bow River (which eventually reaches Calgary an beyond), flows through the valley floor. This is what passengers encounter for awhile.The train then goes briefly trough the Mount Stephen Tunnel (also called the "nose tunnel" and it is on the CPR mainline used 24/7/365, otherwise by mile-long freight (average 150 cars), before (or after the Spirals. The steepness of the climb (or descent) is the very reason why the Spiral Tunnels were constructed, trains struggled to bet uphill, even with a pusher engine and tended to runaway downhill. One must not confuse the Rocky Mountaineer trains.Run by the same company, one train departs Vancouver north to Jasper. While it's mountainous country, it's mostly flat and forested. It uses the CN mainline for most of its journey (except out of Vancouver)The other train goes uses mostly the CPR mainline (built across Canada in 1888) from Vancouver to Banff and it is the most spectacular, with mountain, tunnels and a lot of climb for a good portion, especially in the Rogers Pass area. There is desert along the way and the spiral tunnels, as well as the Stoney Creek Bridge, which is about 300 ft above the valley floor and for which the train slows down to give passengers a good view of the scenery below.Without being commercial here, the company offers a round trip links Banff to Jasper by bus along Highway 93. It's severely uphill for a good portion north but absolutely spectacular with mountains on each side and the Athabasca Glacier (now severely receded because of climate change), in final leg. The area is so wild that Highway 93 is sometimes closed in winter because of snow conditions.
Serious flatspot on your car!
Haha yeah damn thing sounds like an old grainer, and I know
I was there in July, 2019..really fascinating to see. Pretty land.
thanks for taking the time
Many thanks to all those who saw the video and a special thanks to those who gave “thumbs up”. It was one of the first videos I put online and the corrections are not mine. Sorry about the flat wheel on our car, I am shooting from the balcony of a double- deck Gold Leaf car and absolutely had to be inside through the tunnels mfj
I guess this post come up today because of people's interest is the spiral tunnels after the early morning fatal derailment on Monday February 4, 2019 near Fields B.C..
Yep, thats why im here.
Me-3
well... cant blame the tunnels or that track. CPRAIL is guilty for failing to be safe.
Great location in the heart of BC.
Riding 150 miles on a flat tire. Awesome. lol
Select "Canadian Railway Tunnels" at "Your Railway Pictures" and you'll get a very good topo map which can be enlarged, as well as some views of the Spirals which I submitted.
The middle part between the tunnels is YOHO, going up the hill eastbound.
Thanks for your kind comments.
Long train for a passenger train? How many cars? Views must be fantastic? Need to do this one time before the bucket list expires. Thanks for posting rest video.
Absolutely a lifetime ride you’ll never forget. For a fairly low $$$; you are treated royally all the way and it includes accomodation at Kamloops (depending in comfort on your train ticket class) and meals on board. It’s a 2-day “daylight only” trip. Hopefully for all, there’s good weather; but sometimes a little rain in some places during the trip. Best time (and the busiest), is July-August. The train now picks up and drops everyone at Banff and those going to Calgary do so by limo, included into the excursion fare. The Gold Leaf is the highest class, and the one with the most privileges. you are assigned a seat in the upper part of the double deck car and free snacks and drinks are frequent. The lower class sits at tree level, but everyone is highly comfortable, with superior service.
Make that a fairly low $$$$
It would be interesting to see a large steam locomotive travel that route and get some drone footage of it because of the darn trees blocking the view.
Very cool!!
Thank you ever so much.
Watched yours.
Great videos.
@@MrMASSEYJONES Thank you!
Anoying flat tyre on that carriage
Actually the (replaceable) steel band around the edge of a train wheel is referred to as a tire.
No comments for a year but I'll add one anyway. After passing the Partridge siding slide area someone says "Is that the Yellowhead Highway down there." Was it me or did someone say, "Yes". Sorry folks not the Yellowhead. That's TransCanada 1.
Still can't believe people think it's one tunnel when it's called, even if erroneously, spiral tunnelS.
F that flat spot on the wheel!
yep
Eternal luck it was summer with that damaged wheel!
Great vid! I was never sure if there was a siding between the 2 tunnels...but I guess I have my question answered now. I have to ask a question...that snow shed you passed in this beside the river (I guess that's the Kicking Horse River?)...that's below the Spiral Tunnels, right?
I have always regretted, not inserting that siding name into the video. It’s Yoho; listed into the employee timetable. There’s never any meet there, as each tunnel is single-tracked; but it’s a place for freight trains to wait, while one makes it through the tunnels.
You're not offending me.
That's what the tunnels have been called since they were first constructed.
That's also what Parks Canada calls them.
That's what everybody calls them.
www.okthepk.ca/dataCprSiding/news/2009/09060903.htm
Sorry if you were taken aback.
I'll agree with you that they should be called "Helical Tunnels" or "Helix Tunnels".
But in 1909, the word "Helix" was not in fashion, except in university laboratories, as in "Helical Coils".
"What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet"
(Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1594)
+MASSEY JONES Roy Reynolds Must be a blast at parties! Like did you know a hammer doesn't even contain any ham? o.O
+8uddyR1ch Mind...blown
The dictionary definitions of "spiral" that I have looked at include this usage: consider, for example, the phrases "spiral staircase," or "spiral binding" (like you can get at Kinkos), all of which are
perfectly acceptable.
What train is this?
It's the Rocky Mountaineer. They're based out of Wankhoover, BC and offer fairly pricey scenic tours on a small variety of runs, in British Columbia, and into Alberta. The only thing you'll get for free is a peek at their website. rockymountaineer dot com
Shop that car for high KIPs.
flat wheel
I hope I don't offend anyone--the term SPIRAL is a misnomer as by definition a spiral is a curve of continuously varying radius as opposed to a helix which is a curve of constant radius on a grade or varying altitude. I understand the use of the name given the use for spiral staircase and other uses. Just being correct
Roy Reynolds you sound more like you are just being a know it all. In which case you should know Massey Jones is not the one who applied the term spiral to this situation. So why give him a lesson in geometry? I'm sure nobody cares but you. Deal with it.
Massey Jones, please don't use UA-cam's automatic "stabilization"! All it does is shaking the embedded captions and making viewers dizzy.
I did NOT use automatic stabilization, it was done by The UA-cam people, who warned me that the video was not “steady”. It was against my better judgement. Actually, it’s one of my earlier videos. If it was to be published again, I’d do things differently, brought on by experience.