Being backed off isn’t always an indicator you’re a skillful AP, it can simply be triggered by indicators that you’re attempting to count cards. If you notice in a few of the videos he’s even backed off while down. (Not that he’s bad) My point is, your count could be way off, but your betting pattern could get you backed off)
Found your channel 2 days ago and binged every card counting video you have. Absolutely adore it! Can't wait for more. Suuuuper thrilling stuff!! Love how easily digestible it is too.
Steven should walk around with little printouts from the Law book about Identification and holding the winnings lol "Sir can I have your ID?" "Oh yeah here you go!" *hands over printout stating how identification is not required for cashouts below 10k or whatever* I would love to hear their reaction at that point lol
@@watersbey25 oh trust me I know that, just thinking of ways to spice up the videos. Unique scenarios to keep the videos entertaining. Another one I was thinking was just if he pretended he didn’t know English lol but he’s just that avid of a gambler. How do you throw out a counter who doesn’t know English?
@@watersbey25 I think they're much more likley to lose their job when they get publicly outed to online to 100s of thousands of people that they violate federal law.
The employees and the casino getting massive fines with possible jail time and it threatening their gaming license would change this. Till then these laws are confetti...
*What's next on my channel:* *2nd August:* Ep 1 of a new 3 part series - different to the card counting vids, but similar-ish. I think you'll like it, but even if you don't more CC content on the way. *16th August:* Ep 2 of the new series *30th August:* Ep 3 of the new series *13th of September:* Hopefully another video, but I haven't filmed it yet and if I don't like it I won't post it. *Hopefully in September depending on the edit time:* Another Card Counting Trip. Want updates? Gonna post previews on Twitter/Insta/Threads @StevenBridges
I’m not a card counter, I don’t have the ability to be a card counter, I’m not interested in being a card counter myself. But my god this content is addictive and fascinating. Honestly one of my favourite UA-camrs ever
The concept of card counting is simple, but to be good at it, it takes a lot of practice. In the casino, it’s fast paced and the pressure can overwhelm those who are new to it.
I’m sure you’ve noticed by now that the police in the United States do not care the learn the law, and they are not required to learn it. I love everything you do, partially because it’s entertaining, but also because it educates these ignorant people of the law and what the bounds of their authority is. Anything we, as a country, can do to help prevent power from corrupting any further than it already has is a win in my book. And I know that’s not the purpose of this channel, but it’s a really nice perk!
Well yeah, no normal person is gonna know every single law in their state or even the US. You're expecting police officers to learn thousands of laws! That's such an unrealistic expectation. There's definitely some police officers who know the laws WAAAY less than even your average citizen, but you're acting like every American police officer is some corrupt pos who doesn't know a single law. XD Aint just the US, even the UK and other European police officers sometimes won't know the laws that well or will just know the bare minimum. Most people in this day and age only know their bare minimum rights since once again, it's unrealistic to know every single law. If you want legal advice, that's what a lawyer is for.
@ it’s not an unrealistic expectation that the people upholding the law actually know what laws they’re upholding. That’s the bare MINIMUM. Police officers should absolutely know the bounds of their authority and know the law better than the average citizen. That’s not a crazy expectation. That’s literally their job. Any single cop shouldn’t know everything there is to know about the law, but they SHOULD know every single thing about the most common laws that they enforce on a daily basis. And most don’t even know that. They know what everybody knows. Murder is illegal and speeding is illegal. But if you tell someone to F off, about half of the cops in the US would arrest you for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace or something. Because they are not trained on the law, they don’t know it. They know it just like any teenager might know it. They just assume that things that are annoying must be illegal. And if someone is counting cards or refusing ID, that’s annoying and must be illegal. Which is wrong and not how the law should be enforced. That’s not me saying that all cops are corrupt. That’s me saying that the average police officer is severely undereducated about the law. If someone is enforcing the law with a gun, they should be expected to know it. Period. If they don’t, that’s a major problem.
@@PtylerBeats I agree with ya up until the 2nd sentence of your 2nd paragraph. Most cops 100% know about the most common laws they're required to enforce. They're literally required to learn all of those before they can become a cop. The thing is though is that cops once more aren't gonna know every single law nor are they gonna know laws they have less experience with. By that, I mean that your average cop is gonna deal with a lot more common laws being broken by people than "card counting." A cop may not know everything on card counting nor even if it's illegal or not so, you could have a bad experience dealing with a cop who thinks it's illegal, but once they figure out it's not then you're good to go. You're expecting cops to be almost super human and once again, know every single law. I know you don't mean that now, but that's what you're making me think. You're expecting a cop to be this perfect human who never makes mistakes or anything when that's impossible. Every single person on this planet makes mistakes including cops. Also, this is only one cop who had a freak out over card counting and gave Steven's friend a hard time out of the 1.2 million of them in the US. You're using one single bad cop to act like half or most of the police force in the US are total idiots who don't understand the law. XD "But if you tell someone to F off, about half of the cops in the US would arrest you for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace or something." I've seen plenty of vids like that on YT and all the time, either the cop just shrugs it off or they stop the person who flipped them off and give the person a hard time all while staying in bounds of the law. They literally can't arrest you or charge you for something like that... I shouldn't have to tell you or anyone how unrealistic and stupid that is lol. Not to mention: Someone is definitely stupid af if they think they can just flip off a cop and the cop won't do a single thing or won't give them a hard time. It's in your rights to be able to do that since it's a form of expression which is protected under the 1st amendment, but that doesn't mean that someone is gonna like you flipping them off and just ignore it... I could flip you off in public and say you're a braindead b**** and you wouldn't like that would ya? It's in my rights to be able to say all that, but you would wanna say something back or even fight me over it, right? Of course, you would! FAFO. So, don't be surprised if you or someone else flips off a cop and they give you a hard time afterwards for it. You did that to yourself.
@ I ain’t reading all that, but your second sentence is simply not true. Most officers THINK they know everything about the most common laws, but you’d be shocked at how often officers don’t understand basic laws like trespassing, assault, or disorderly conduct. But it’s not even their fault. They aren’t properly trained on it, and they aren’t expected to know it.
Love the sneaky way that your 'first back off' guy got your name from you - a simple introduction, greeting, and a handshake. Not sure if that was noticed at the time, but a much more effectve way of getting an ID than straight up asking for it.
@@truechaosmulala3831 usually but steven is very popular and that could be enough for them. Same with any other popular card counters. Technically he could have given a fake name though
I would love to see a video where you actually bring the paperwork of the contract between the casino and the player and show it to the staff, I am really curious what their reaction would be.
@present3348 As commonly known by card counting, you need to be able to deal with backoffs. The orginial idea of the comment was to give an idea to steven to try out once to see how the staff would react, especially with some really demanding/confindent casino staf it would be interested when they are shown the facts/their own player terms. As far as actual legal consequences and sueing the casino, you are right it might not have real consequences, but in the more extreme cases where rights are actually violated (not getting cashed out, fake police, entrapment etc) you could definetly make a real case out of it definetly with video from steven, the question is more, would you actually want to go to court, have a ton of work and stress for minor consequences in perspective of the amount of effort put in. The part about chrasing a party is a bit wierd imo, AP's are not breaking any laws or doing anything illegal, casino's just get very hostile because they are salty about losing money to AP's. btw never harras casino staff, they are just doing their job
You should include the names of the casinos simply because I'd rather lose all my money in a friendly and dignified place than a hostile and scummy one. Love your vids, very insightful for seeing the atmosphere of casinos since counting cards is a trade I'll probably never acquire.
Watch Inside The Edge. It's on UA-cam. They listed a few casinos that are nastier, and are still nasty to this day. Sam's Town in Tunica, MS has a history of overreacting, and sometimes they kick you out without cashing you out, forcing you to go to gaming to fight back and get the casino fined for breaking the law. Treasure Chest Casino in Mississippi is a known sweat joint, and they don't hesitate to report you on the casino database after catching you red handed. They are even known to use police to illegally intimidate you into showing your ID.
Just found your channel a few days ago and have binged your new card counting series. It’s absolutely amazing and very entertaining! I’ve always been interested in counting cards but I think your video has pushed me to truly learn the skill. So thank you for that!! 😎🤝
Cheers dude! I recommend: blackjackapprenticeship.com/?steven (affiliate link - costs you nothing extra but supports me. Remove the ?steven if you’d prefer to not use an affiliate link)
If an officer in the US tells you that card counting is illegal wouldn't confessing to counting be an option? If they arrest you you might make more off of the lawsuits that would follow than you ever could have off of blackjack.
@Annoye you realize that most of the auditors, that literally make a living suing police departments, are WHITE right? You can't win a major lawsuit if you don't press the issue
When the casino says, “it is not our policy….”. I would just respond with, “it is not my policy to give my ID. Since we have different policies, we have to fall back on the law”
I can't believe this happens. As a Vegas native... I'm appalled really. You gave them too much credit as there was only one decent back off, the rest are trash. Security and "police" should NEVER get involved in a back off.
@@ThatLongHairMetalGuy I've heard the stories. I have seen and been part of back offs. Never like any of these bad ones. Maybe downtown they still do that? (I've heard security downtown is volatile) but again. Security should never be involved.
@@present3348 in my entire career, i have not called security for a back off nor has any pit boss I've worked with needed security for a back off. We do not remove card counters from our properties just because they are card counters. Security has nothing to do with gaming. If you work security and surveillance or table games calls you for a card counter then you're in a company causing these problems. Removing people from games because they're stealing, violent, threatening, or mistreating employees.. yes. Security will get involved. That's a security issue. Again, card counters should *NOT* be removed off premises. There is no reason to do so. Downtown is notorious for having overzealous security where situations are escalated (by security) even in situations where it's not their place to do so.
@@ThatLongHairMetalGuy Maybe back when the mobs ran the casinos. There is no way they would jeopardize their money making machine by doing something so stupid nowadays.
I had a local casino of mine refuse to cash out $5,600 at the desk when I wouldn’t show ID. It made absolutely no sense. It was also just the cashier. I wasn’t counting but she immediately went hostile when I said no…
Because it is casino policy and her job depends on it. She thinks what she is doing is 100% right and your the one giving her a hard time. I'm not saying she's actually in the right, but it's definitely the casino's putting these "policies" in place that is the problem.
The thing that I get at the 9:00 back off is also how close he is too you. That's an insane line of aggression. When you can feel the spittle of them talking in your face, and the people who do that WANT you try to back them away from you, because they are the type that if you touch them in anyway they will immediately "defend" themselves despite being the ones ensuring they are inches from you.
This is one of the most addictive channels to watch, a passion of mine narrated by a soothing voice, just love it. Thanks for the recap though I did just binge watch your channel about a week ago :P
Smart idea to make a tier list of this. You make good content. You're helping thousands of people and making casinos lose more money. Fuck em. Keep doing what you do. It's fire.
3:25 "+6 is a very good number" Do casinos count their own cards? I mean, it would make a lot of sense if they could correlate a positive count with players increased bets as "proof" of advantage play. Can't imagine it would be too hard either, one camera, some image recognition software and a little Python code.
If you know hot to count this then it would be few days of coding (including testing). Place camera to have good view of the table and you could like UV, or something invisible to human eyes and you wouldn't even need any image "advanced" image recognition, just some simple QR code and something and then programming it would a day job.
In every documentary where the casino security tells their side of the story I've ever seen, they claim to have at least someone (usually surveillance) doing counts. Probably not the dealer, that would invite legal scrutiny.
I absolutely love your videos Steven! Im a table games/poker dealer at a small casino and i've been using my time dealing blackjack to try and practice counting and its extremely difficult to keep a count while doing everything else. Lots of respect to you and your crew
At smaller casinos it’s easier to be noticed with your play. With your action, they tend to watch diligently. At the larger casinos, we just have to input your name in a database and see all your info and your associates. If you’re playing as a refusal, then we see if you’re moving with the count. Pretty simple and basic, plus we have separate people whose only job is to count cards. Takes a small load off of surveillance. Sure AP do slip through the cracks, but pretty simple to weed them out. Also, our back offs are simple and rarely need security. Since it’s Vegas, all they have to do is ask for ID and once you refuse, they will cash you out and have you leave. No hostility since it’s almost every other day people are being backed off.
Do casinos have access to the NCIC? I applied for a casino surveillance job awhile back and got denied. I think it was because of a prior arrest from ages ago.
@@present3348 Right, but what I'm asking is what do they have access to? I know tribal casino surveillance departments have access to the FBI's most wanted list, amongst other law enforcement databases. I want to know if private casino enterprises can see/access the NCIC. It would show problem codes which correlate to specific type of arrests and what they were for. If they have access to that it would explain why I was denied the job.
@@christophercarlone9945 when I had my background check done, I requested a copy of my report from the specific company doing them. They look at pretty much everything and if there was an arrest, it wouldn’t disqualify you unless it is relative to theft, and other specific things. But for the casino I’m at, they really make sure whoever they hire would be fit and not commit crimes. Licensing is a big issue because I know some got denied from an unpaid traffic ticket.
I have seen gamblers become violent towards staff, sadly. Since they are going to remove you, or at the least prevent you from playing, it is understandable to have another security person to make sure all goes peacefully.
Love your vibe man. Always puts a smile on my face when I see you upload. Not much of a gambler but your videos are so entertaining. Hope you and the team keep up the good work👌
That one where he said "we are going to do things a little bit differently..." If you had $9900, I bet that interaction would have ended up being an F tier and imagine how many people who weren't as up as you were that he has done that to.
On the bonus video, if I was your friend being accosted by the police like that, I’d have said, “Really? So if I’m a card counter, who do you think knows more about the laws surrounding card counting? You or me officer?” 😂 Then I’d just keep asking them to arrest me and clarify the charges because “I’m just genuinely curious.”😂
You'll get out eventually, but never underestimate a police officers lack of knowledge on the law or his willingness to arrest you for what he believes is the law even if he is wrong.
Thanks! The one starting 2nd August is totally different but something I've wanted to do for ages. I thiiiiiink people will like it. But if not, more CC anyway. 😃
All Casino's in B.C Canada now require you to present ID at the door to enter. I don't think its viable for every Casino to do this but that will definitely hinder the ability to enter again after already being backed of especially if you get flagged for being around.
Your videos are so exciting and well done. I hope you have another trip planned. I think you’ll need to look in to more professional disguises though in future!
Every state that offers casino style gaming should watch these videos. The state legislatures write laws and statutes that casinos ignore regularly. These casinos “take a shot” and it comes with no penalty. There needs to be a punishment for this bad behavior on the part of casinos. It needs to be substantial.
Loved this review of back offs. For me there is no reason for any animosity from the casinos, its not like you card counting directly affects their pay. Anyway keep up the good work
Honestly crazy that they are even allowed to tell you to 'backoff' the game. If they're allowed to do that, they should also be required to tell you to back off if you've lost too much. That'll never happen. Also you should've shared the names of the casinos
As the person above replied, I’ll +1 that. I’ve been to a couple of casinos where I have seen them notice someone losing A LOT of money at once and they’ll normally ask them if they want to stop playing or give them some comps to get them away from the table, ultimately they’re a business and they want to make money so they won’t force you to stop spending but they do sometimes care. I’ve also seen them stop drunk people from playing, they’ll literally call security and escort them to cash out their chips and if they’re staying at a Casino/Hotel will escort to their room. As far as card counting or winning too much, all casinos will back you off eventually so naming the casino is pointless when all of them do it.
Can you add the tier list to the end of each of your future videos and rank where it falls on the list? Like a 30 second thing at the end, would be really cool.
@@nicholassmith5130 "you cant make it illegal for a private business to opperate how they want" It's wild you believe that. You think a private business can do whatever they want just because they're private? Insanity. Also it's not true. There are many laws for how a business is allowed to operate. Even in this video it's mentioned that there is one state where it is illegal to kick someone out for being good at the game.
"My job is to enforce the casino policy." -gaming commission officer I'm generally an advocate for being very forgiving of mistakes people make while doing their job, but that guy should legitimately be fired. He is the one thing standing between the casinos and unbelievable amounts of fraud. Such an egregious misappropriation of his role is unforgivable.
Don't give your ID to cops either - they have no authority to see it unless they suspect you of a crime. They do NOT need your ID in order to issue a trespass warning. However, they may still arrest you anyway because there is basically no accountability for them to make illegal arrests that later get dropped.
What do you mean by not knowing the law when the officers asked for your ID at the 9:30 clip? If the officers ID you don't you have to either show them your ID or at least identify yourself (correctly).
As a Louisianan, your experience in Shreveport made me laugh so hard 😅 The culture shock of someone from England I knew would be strong. Shreveport is…well…let’s say…not ideal 😅😅
I’ve managed to snag close to $900k in 3 months and never got backed off once . I can talk to people, look away from the table and still count. I learned how to count cards in the mid 90s because I was really bored one summer with a broken foot. I started to use my ability recently. I’m surprised he got backed off so many times.
Even more scary is that some do know the difference, and choose to violate your rights knowing that most would cave or probably won't go through the trouble to challenge it in any capacity that would bring repercussions.
Hey Steven, have you ever thought about going to play other casino games that are completely luck based when you can feel some heat from the casino? I have a theory that they might not think you're a card counter if they see you playing more than just black jack and instead of assuming you count cards they might just think you're "Getting Lucky" at the table. You talked about meeting another old man card counter who was playing the slots, and I have an idea that maybe he was doing that too. Just cause if you're only at the Black Jack table it might be a dead sign that's all you plan on playing. Might help to start with some roulette or slots, sacrifice $50, then go on and play and see if it takes longer for a back-off to happen
The more time you spend not playing black jack the less money you make per hour. He needs to maximise game time amongst other things. So it is more efficient to just look which Casinos are in a certain are and plan a trip to play at each casion for as long as possible until moving to the next casino. The time you spend playing at a different game, in the hopes to maybe play a bit more blackjack at the casino, can be spent driving already to the next location.
It's a great question. The two other replies hit the nail on the head. Playing other games is expensive. And a lot of the time it's a case of surveillance not even noticing you until you start doing counting behaviour. So the other game probably won't affect their perception as they won't be paying attention until you're playing BJ
@@stevenbridges Gotcha gotcha, makes sense, I guess yeahh security would be tighter at the only game where you can actively beat the casino haha. I feel like Irish does a good job of hiding he's a counter, just acting and playing so aggressively so no one wants to pay attention to you, but can't outright refuse you, hiding in plain sight kinda stuff
@@taliesine.8343 True, guess it doesn't work, but yeahh it was mostly supposed to be a solution for having to drive to another casino, especially since his picture may be given out to other casinos and it'd be hard to count at another one. Ideally instead of lets say 4 hours of cunting then a backoff, hopefully, itd result in 4 hours of counting, 40 minutes of other games, then a few more hours of counting if something like that would work
That’s interesting that they aren’t allowed to not cash you out. That’s what I felt when I couldn’t cash out. But I was waiting for a hand pay instead of holding chips. Felt pretty messed up to not mind when you lose but when you win then you are a dangerous criminal.
Don’t even show ID to police unless they say you’re detained for a crime and will arrest you if you don’t.They give your info to the casino under the guise of a trespass warning notice.
@@stevenbridges The issue with that is that a large percentage of American officers just don't care and will arrest you over it. It's whether getting arrested over your principles is worth it.
Hey Steven First i love your Videos. i have a little quastion. When you count can you put a little window maybe in the Corner where you show the running Count and the true Count. i woud be happy if you can do that
I do that sometimes but in some videos there's not a clear shot of the table the whole time so I can't really do it retroactively. But if you check out the first ep of Season 2 there's a part there where I have the count on the screen 😃
Hello Steven i find your videos interesting and wanted to ask if you would ever make a video in which you show yourself card counting in a casino and commenting on your thoughts via edit, I think it'd be a very interesting and fun video and others might agree, it would add well to a card counting tutorial video that you've made.
Colorado is a little....extra. That last bit doesn't surprise me at all. Haven't tried to count cards there, but they will literally card you every few minutes (quite aggressively sometimes) even if you're just roaming about the floor and wearing one of the over 21 wrist bands that they give out, at least in the casinos I've been in. Hats off to anyone who actually pulls it off!
So many times they've asked for ID for age verification, but it's not like they're going to return everything you've lost if it turns out you're underage
I was known as a Card Counter in one casinos in Hollywood Florida dealers were friendly and they knew I counted. A couple of dealers evened up playing fantasy football with. A pit boss knew I was a Card Counter(heard him mention a couple of times) he never snitched on me. Months later got backed off. But I spoke to pit boss and he said surveillance ended up catching me which was true since I got stopped as soon as I walked through doors
The casino where they mistook him for someone else was good that they apologized for their mistake and even offered to buy him dinner probably at the buffet or the restaurant they have. Also the other one where they were nice about it mostly.
As a dealer whenever someone is drunk on my table and they over tipping I always ask why or even take the tip and bet with them so we both win. No one’s gonna say no to a tip but always make sure they’re playing right and making good decisions
I love this video so much, it really “sticks it” to the casinos in a *you know who you are* attitude, punk asf, I hope this moves along and shows innovative casinos how human relations should be approached
I think being told "We have to back you off because your play is too good" is a badge of honor.
Ikr? That would make my night fr lol! 😆
Being backed off isn’t always an indicator you’re a skillful AP, it can simply be triggered by indicators that you’re attempting to count cards. If you notice in a few of the videos he’s even backed off while down. (Not that he’s bad) My point is, your count could be way off, but your betting pattern could get you backed off)
If anything, this series really proved just how corrupt the gaming commission is
Anyone who has ever watched Boxing already knows this.
You mean...
The companies that were created by members of the mafia are... doing illegal shit?
That's impossible man wtf you talking about.
@@moonbaseryan not only boxing, NBA, football, soccer, hockey, ESPECIALLY Tennis, Handball, you name it, it's corrupt sometimes
Third world organisation.
If money is involved. Some POS will find a way to exploit it. Corruption is everywhere
Found your channel 2 days ago and binged every card counting video you have. Absolutely adore it! Can't wait for more. Suuuuper thrilling stuff!! Love how easily digestible it is too.
Ah thank you! Really appreciate it 😃
That’s me last year. Amazing contents and a wonderful person!
@@stevenbridges literally found it today and been watching all of your videos
exactly the same for me, except I first found the channel 4-5 days ago
Same 😂😂
Steven should walk around with little printouts from the Law book about Identification and holding the winnings lol
"Sir can I have your ID?"
"Oh yeah here you go!" *hands over printout stating how identification is not required for cashouts below 10k or whatever*
I would love to hear their reaction at that point lol
It wouldn't work. Security staff are paid to do "an errand" and don't want to lose their job for failing to remove a card counter.
@@watersbey25 oh trust me I know that, just thinking of ways to spice up the videos. Unique scenarios to keep the videos entertaining. Another one I was thinking was just if he pretended he didn’t know English lol but he’s just that avid of a gambler. How do you throw out a counter who doesn’t know English?
@@watersbey25 I think they're much more likley to lose their job when they get publicly outed to online to 100s of thousands of people that they violate federal law.
The employees and the casino getting massive fines with possible jail time and it threatening their gaming license would change this. Till then these laws are confetti...
*What's next on my channel:*
*2nd August:* Ep 1 of a new 3 part series - different to the card counting vids, but similar-ish. I think you'll like it, but even if you don't more CC content on the way.
*16th August:* Ep 2 of the new series
*30th August:* Ep 3 of the new series
*13th of September:* Hopefully another video, but I haven't filmed it yet and if I don't like it I won't post it.
*Hopefully in September depending on the edit time:* Another Card Counting Trip.
Want updates? Gonna post previews on Twitter/Insta/Threads @StevenBridges
Can't wait for more episodes Steven!!!
Much love from Georgetown Colorado
@@Blackwolffe097 Thanks mate!
Heck yeah man thanks for the lineup. ADD IT TO THE CALENDAR
@@stevenbridgesfantastic content 👍
@@tomderby2812 Thank you mate!
I’m not a card counter, I don’t have the ability to be a card counter, I’m not interested in being a card counter myself. But my god this content is addictive and fascinating. Honestly one of my favourite UA-camrs ever
The concept of card counting is simple, but to be good at it, it takes a lot of practice. In the casino, it’s fast paced and the pressure can overwhelm those who are new to it.
Thank you mate! :D
Wake up, babe...fresh Bridges just dropped. It's divine.
hahaah thanks
Just got off work and the first thing I see is this video and my day is now made
Let’s make Fresh Bridges a thing
Warlock gamer 😴
My couch is a pull out Steven
I’m sure you’ve noticed by now that the police in the United States do not care the learn the law, and they are not required to learn it. I love everything you do, partially because it’s entertaining, but also because it educates these ignorant people of the law and what the bounds of their authority is. Anything we, as a country, can do to help prevent power from corrupting any further than it already has is a win in my book. And I know that’s not the purpose of this channel, but it’s a really nice perk!
Us has bigger problems than their domestic policing. They are policing the world. Waging illegal wars etc
Well yeah, no normal person is gonna know every single law in their state or even the US. You're expecting police officers to learn thousands of laws! That's such an unrealistic expectation. There's definitely some police officers who know the laws WAAAY less than even your average citizen, but you're acting like every American police officer is some corrupt pos who doesn't know a single law. XD
Aint just the US, even the UK and other European police officers sometimes won't know the laws that well or will just know the bare minimum. Most people in this day and age only know their bare minimum rights since once again, it's unrealistic to know every single law. If you want legal advice, that's what a lawyer is for.
@ it’s not an unrealistic expectation that the people upholding the law actually know what laws they’re upholding. That’s the bare MINIMUM. Police officers should absolutely know the bounds of their authority and know the law better than the average citizen. That’s not a crazy expectation. That’s literally their job.
Any single cop shouldn’t know everything there is to know about the law, but they SHOULD know every single thing about the most common laws that they enforce on a daily basis. And most don’t even know that. They know what everybody knows. Murder is illegal and speeding is illegal. But if you tell someone to F off, about half of the cops in the US would arrest you for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace or something. Because they are not trained on the law, they don’t know it. They know it just like any teenager might know it. They just assume that things that are annoying must be illegal. And if someone is counting cards or refusing ID, that’s annoying and must be illegal. Which is wrong and not how the law should be enforced. That’s not me saying that all cops are corrupt. That’s me saying that the average police officer is severely undereducated about the law. If someone is enforcing the law with a gun, they should be expected to know it. Period. If they don’t, that’s a major problem.
@@PtylerBeats I agree with ya up until the 2nd sentence of your 2nd paragraph. Most cops 100% know about the most common laws they're required to enforce. They're literally required to learn all of those before they can become a cop. The thing is though is that cops once more aren't gonna know every single law nor are they gonna know laws they have less experience with. By that, I mean that your average cop is gonna deal with a lot more common laws being broken by people than "card counting." A cop may not know everything on card counting nor even if it's illegal or not so, you could have a bad experience dealing with a cop who thinks it's illegal, but once they figure out it's not then you're good to go. You're expecting cops to be almost super human and once again, know every single law. I know you don't mean that now, but that's what you're making me think. You're expecting a cop to be this perfect human who never makes mistakes or anything when that's impossible. Every single person on this planet makes mistakes including cops. Also, this is only one cop who had a freak out over card counting and gave Steven's friend a hard time out of the 1.2 million of them in the US. You're using one single bad cop to act like half or most of the police force in the US are total idiots who don't understand the law. XD
"But if you tell someone to F off, about half of the cops in the US would arrest you for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace or something." I've seen plenty of vids like that on YT and all the time, either the cop just shrugs it off or they stop the person who flipped them off and give the person a hard time all while staying in bounds of the law. They literally can't arrest you or charge you for something like that... I shouldn't have to tell you or anyone how unrealistic and stupid that is lol. Not to mention: Someone is definitely stupid af if they think they can just flip off a cop and the cop won't do a single thing or won't give them a hard time. It's in your rights to be able to do that since it's a form of expression which is protected under the 1st amendment, but that doesn't mean that someone is gonna like you flipping them off and just ignore it... I could flip you off in public and say you're a braindead b**** and you wouldn't like that would ya? It's in my rights to be able to say all that, but you would wanna say something back or even fight me over it, right? Of course, you would! FAFO. So, don't be surprised if you or someone else flips off a cop and they give you a hard time afterwards for it. You did that to yourself.
@ I ain’t reading all that, but your second sentence is simply not true. Most officers THINK they know everything about the most common laws, but you’d be shocked at how often officers don’t understand basic laws like trespassing, assault, or disorderly conduct. But it’s not even their fault. They aren’t properly trained on it, and they aren’t expected to know it.
Love the sneaky way that your 'first back off' guy got your name from you - a simple introduction, greeting, and a handshake. Not sure if that was noticed at the time, but a much more effectve way of getting an ID than straight up asking for it.
Didn’t he only get his first name? That usually isn’t enough
He got his first name mate lol
@@truechaosmulala3831 usually but steven is very popular and that could be enough for them. Same with any other popular card counters. Technically he could have given a fake name though
I would love to see a video where you actually bring the paperwork of the contract between the casino and the player and show it to the staff, I am really curious what their reaction would be.
Hahaha that’s a great idea
I'll assume the Casino keeps that information private.
@@present3348well said
@present3348 As commonly known by card counting, you need to be able to deal with backoffs. The orginial idea of the comment was to give an idea to steven to try out once to see how the staff would react, especially with some really demanding/confindent casino staf it would be interested when they are shown the facts/their own player terms. As far as actual legal consequences and sueing the casino, you are right it might not have real consequences, but in the more extreme cases where rights are actually violated (not getting cashed out, fake police, entrapment etc) you could definetly make a real case out of it definetly with video from steven, the question is more, would you actually want to go to court, have a ton of work and stress for minor consequences in perspective of the amount of effort put in. The part about chrasing a party is a bit wierd imo, AP's are not breaking any laws or doing anything illegal, casino's just get very hostile because they are salty about losing money to AP's.
btw never harras casino staff, they are just doing their job
@@sanfranciscobay It's not a binding contract if the people involved can't see it.
You should include the names of the casinos simply because I'd rather lose all my money in a friendly and dignified place than a hostile and scummy one. Love your vids, very insightful for seeing the atmosphere of casinos since counting cards is a trade I'll probably never acquire.
Watch Inside The Edge. It's on UA-cam. They listed a few casinos that are nastier, and are still nasty to this day.
Sam's Town in Tunica, MS has a history of overreacting, and sometimes they kick you out without cashing you out, forcing you to go to gaming to fight back and get the casino fined for breaking the law.
Treasure Chest Casino in Mississippi is a known sweat joint, and they don't hesitate to report you on the casino database after catching you red handed. They are even known to use police to illegally intimidate you into showing your ID.
Just found your channel a few days ago and have binged your new card counting series. It’s absolutely amazing and very entertaining! I’ve always been interested in counting cards but I think your video has pushed me to truly learn the skill. So thank you for that!! 😎🤝
Cheers dude! I recommend: blackjackapprenticeship.com/?steven (affiliate link - costs you nothing extra but supports me. Remove the ?steven if you’d prefer to not use an affiliate link)
If an officer in the US tells you that card counting is illegal wouldn't confessing to counting be an option? If they arrest you you might make more off of the lawsuits that would follow than you ever could have off of blackjack.
With police unions existing, it's very hard to win against the police, even if they shoot you in the face
You won't get a huge payout without huge damages, which a wrongful arrest usually doesn't cause
@Annoye lmfao ok chief
@@James-k4t2x We'll add your response to r/whoosh
@Annoye you realize that most of the auditors, that literally make a living suing police departments, are WHITE right? You can't win a major lawsuit if you don't press the issue
When the casino says, “it is not our policy….”. I would just respond with, “it is not my policy to give my ID. Since we have different policies, we have to fall back on the law”
I can't believe this happens. As a Vegas native... I'm appalled really. You gave them too much credit as there was only one decent back off, the rest are trash. Security and "police" should NEVER get involved in a back off.
The libs in Washington are all rude there
@@ThatLongHairMetalGuy I've heard the stories. I have seen and been part of back offs. Never like any of these bad ones. Maybe downtown they still do that? (I've heard security downtown is volatile) but again. Security should never be involved.
@@present3348 in my entire career, i have not called security for a back off nor has any pit boss I've worked with needed security for a back off. We do not remove card counters from our properties just because they are card counters. Security has nothing to do with gaming. If you work security and surveillance or table games calls you for a card counter then you're in a company causing these problems. Removing people from games because they're stealing, violent, threatening, or mistreating employees.. yes. Security will get involved. That's a security issue. Again, card counters should *NOT* be removed off premises. There is no reason to do so. Downtown is notorious for having overzealous security where situations are escalated (by security) even in situations where it's not their place to do so.
@@ThatLongHairMetalGuy Maybe back when the mobs ran the casinos. There is no way they would jeopardize their money making machine by doing something so stupid nowadays.
I had a local casino of mine refuse to cash out $5,600 at the desk when I wouldn’t show ID. It made absolutely no sense. It was also just the cashier. I wasn’t counting but she immediately went hostile when I said no…
So did u just lose your money??
@@mjumper I gave over ID
Because it is casino policy and her job depends on it. She thinks what she is doing is 100% right and your the one giving her a hard time. I'm not saying she's actually in the right, but it's definitely the casino's putting these "policies" in place that is the problem.
The thing that I get at the 9:00 back off is also how close he is too you. That's an insane line of aggression. When you can feel the spittle of them talking in your face, and the people who do that WANT you try to back them away from you, because they are the type that if you touch them in anyway they will immediately "defend" themselves despite being the ones ensuring they are inches from you.
This is one of the most addictive channels to watch, a passion of mine narrated by a soothing voice, just love it. Thanks for the recap though I did just binge watch your channel about a week ago :P
My F tier backoff was when I got followed through the parking lot and threatened to be arrested. Completely unprofessional, intimidating, and awful.
Love these videos!!! Card-counting is such an interesting activity and requires such skill. Never knew how cool it was until seeing these videos
Smart idea to make a tier list of this. You make good content. You're helping thousands of people and making casinos lose more money. Fuck em.
Keep doing what you do. It's fire.
I've gone on a binge since I discovered your channel, keep up the fantastic work.
3:25 "+6 is a very good number"
Do casinos count their own cards? I mean, it would make a lot of sense if they could correlate a positive count with players increased bets as "proof" of advantage play. Can't imagine it would be too hard either, one camera, some image recognition software and a little Python code.
If you know hot to count this then it would be few days of coding (including testing). Place camera to have good view of the table and you could like UV, or something invisible to human eyes and you wouldn't even need any image "advanced" image recognition, just some simple QR code and something and then programming it would a day job.
In every documentary where the casino security tells their side of the story I've ever seen, they claim to have at least someone (usually surveillance) doing counts.
Probably not the dealer, that would invite legal scrutiny.
I absolutely love your videos Steven! Im a table games/poker dealer at a small casino and i've been using my time dealing blackjack to try and practice counting and its extremely difficult to keep a count while doing everything else. Lots of respect to you and your crew
Counting and dealing is a very difficult combo! But if you can manage it your game will be very strong
At smaller casinos it’s easier to be noticed with your play. With your action, they tend to watch diligently. At the larger casinos, we just have to input your name in a database and see all your info and your associates. If you’re playing as a refusal, then we see if you’re moving with the count. Pretty simple and basic, plus we have separate people whose only job is to count cards. Takes a small load off of surveillance. Sure AP do slip through the cracks, but pretty simple to weed them out.
Also, our back offs are simple and rarely need security. Since it’s Vegas, all they have to do is ask for ID and once you refuse, they will cash you out and have you leave. No hostility since it’s almost every other day people are being backed off.
Do casinos have access to the NCIC? I applied for a casino surveillance job awhile back and got denied. I think it was because of a prior arrest from ages ago.
@@present3348 Right, but what I'm asking is what do they have access to? I know tribal casino surveillance departments have access to the FBI's most wanted list, amongst other law enforcement databases.
I want to know if private casino enterprises can see/access the NCIC. It would show problem codes which correlate to specific type of arrests and what they were for. If they have access to that it would explain why I was denied the job.
@@christophercarlone9945 when I had my background check done, I requested a copy of my report from the specific company doing them. They look at pretty much everything and if there was an arrest, it wouldn’t disqualify you unless it is relative to theft, and other specific things. But for the casino I’m at, they really make sure whoever they hire would be fit and not commit crimes. Licensing is a big issue because I know some got denied from an unpaid traffic ticket.
I tell you what this is one of my fave channels I have come across so far, absolutely 10 10 love it
I have seen gamblers become violent towards staff, sadly. Since they are going to remove you, or at the least prevent you from playing, it is understandable to have another security person to make sure all goes peacefully.
Love your vibe man. Always puts a smile on my face when I see you upload.
Not much of a gambler but your videos are so entertaining. Hope you and the team keep up the good work👌
Thanks man! Really glad you enjoy them 😃
I cannot believe you’ve never punched one of these guys in the face. Your patience is amazing
That one where he said "we are going to do things a little bit differently..." If you had $9900, I bet that interaction would have ended up being an F tier and imagine how many people who weren't as up as you were that he has done that to.
Yeah for sure. I’ve heard people have really rough times in Tunica. So I can totally imagine for many counters it went the other way.
On the bonus video, if I was your friend being accosted by the police like that, I’d have said, “Really? So if I’m a card counter, who do you think knows more about the laws surrounding card counting? You or me officer?” 😂 Then I’d just keep asking them to arrest me and clarify the charges because “I’m just genuinely curious.”😂
You'll get out eventually, but never underestimate a police officers lack of knowledge on the law or his willingness to arrest you for what he believes is the law even if he is wrong.
I legit get addicted levels of distracted when I see your videos. Love it!
Haha I appreciate it!
Super excited for the new series coming
Thanks! The one starting 2nd August is totally different but something I've wanted to do for ages. I thiiiiiink people will like it. But if not, more CC anyway. 😃
@@stevenbridges I can't wait, amazing content btw
@@stevenbridgesit’s gonna be great man. One of the most entertaining people I’ve ever seen
Best content around at the moment. More please!
Thanks mate!
Been watching your channel since the first series of Beat The Odds and I have no idea how you don't have millions of subscribers already
I’ve been asking for this video for months, so glad it’s out
Hope ya like it Cliff!
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to see where you go with the channel going forward.
Niiice bro, you're smooth af.played all these off like a gentleman
This guy needs his own show on the telly love
2:00 "I swear I flushed and that smell was from the guy in the stall next to me, I only did number 1, not number 2".
That not how you use “ “
Hell yeah. Been waiting for this! Love the videos.
Thanks mate! Thought it would be a fun one between trips 😃
On the other Hand Its always so chilling when there are nice back offs in your Video, like the positive vibes just make me happy
All Casino's in B.C Canada now require you to present ID at the door to enter. I don't think its viable for every Casino to do this but that will definitely hinder the ability to enter again after already being backed of especially if you get flagged for being around.
Great video man, this is some FreshBridges content
Thank you for your business 👍🏻
Your videos are so exciting and well done. I hope you have another trip planned.
I think you’ll need to look in to more professional disguises though in future!
Every state that offers casino style gaming should watch these videos.
The state legislatures write laws and statutes that casinos ignore regularly. These casinos “take a shot” and it comes with no penalty.
There needs to be a punishment for this bad behavior on the part of casinos. It needs to be substantial.
love your content Stevie B. Keep doing what you're doing.
Loved this review of back offs. For me there is no reason for any animosity from the casinos, its not like you card counting directly affects their pay. Anyway keep up the good work
Honestly crazy that they are even allowed to tell you to 'backoff' the game. If they're allowed to do that, they should also be required to tell you to back off if you've lost too much. That'll never happen. Also you should've shared the names of the casinos
They are required to ask you if you want to stop after a certain amount lost, and are supposed to back you off if you are too drunk.
As the person above replied, I’ll +1 that. I’ve been to a couple of casinos where I have seen them notice someone losing A LOT of money at once and they’ll normally ask them if they want to stop playing or give them some comps to get them away from the table, ultimately they’re a business and they want to make money so they won’t force you to stop spending but they do sometimes care. I’ve also seen them stop drunk people from playing, they’ll literally call security and escort them to cash out their chips and if they’re staying at a Casino/Hotel will escort to their room. As far as card counting or winning too much, all casinos will back you off eventually so naming the casino is pointless when all of them do it.
Great new video! Love the tier list. I’m so glad this showed up first page on my front page today.
Love the videos man. Keep it up!
I appreciate the support!
Just Got back from the gym, best post workout video ❤😅
Haha nice one!
Can you add the tier list to the end of each of your future videos and rank where it falls on the list? Like a 30 second thing at the end, would be really cool.
Backoff should be illegal, Because they will never back off someone losing their LIFE.. They will take advantage of that situation. .
you cant make it illegal for a private business to opperate how they want
@@nicholassmith5130You should be able to, based on anti-discrimination laws.
@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer its not descriminatory, or, you literally just give no reason. You can kick someone out without cause
@@nicholassmith5130 "you cant make it illegal for a private business to opperate how they want" It's wild you believe that. You think a private business can do whatever they want just because they're private? Insanity. Also it's not true. There are many laws for how a business is allowed to operate. Even in this video it's mentioned that there is one state where it is illegal to kick someone out for being good at the game.
@Jotaro-o a private business can just saw you aren't allowed to be there. They don't have to give a reason either
Great video as always steven! I always look forward to your next upload
Thank you! Tried something a little different with this one so wasn’t sure if people would like it. Glad you liked it
@stevenbridges I see! I liked it a lot, I think this kind of card counting content works really well for your channel
For a second, I didn't realize it was your video because the left looked like the ranking videos I watch for retrogames.
"My job is to enforce the casino policy."
-gaming commission officer
I'm generally an advocate for being very forgiving of mistakes people make while doing their job, but that guy should legitimately be fired. He is the one thing standing between the casinos and unbelievable amounts of fraud. Such an egregious misappropriation of his role is unforgivable.
Don't give your ID to cops either - they have no authority to see it unless they suspect you of a crime. They do NOT need your ID in order to issue a trespass warning.
However, they may still arrest you anyway because there is basically no accountability for them to make illegal arrests that later get dropped.
New series coming!? Can’t wait to see what you’ve got up your sleeves.
Bro I freaking love your videos. Thanks so much for making my day!
What do you mean by not knowing the law when the officers asked for your ID at the 9:30 clip? If the officers ID you don't you have to either show them your ID or at least identify yourself (correctly).
Really enjoyed this video :D
Glad you enjoyed it!
You’re amazing Steven. Keep it up
As a Louisianan, your experience in Shreveport made me laugh so hard 😅 The culture shock of someone from England I knew would be strong. Shreveport is…well…let’s say…not ideal 😅😅
4:25 no way that is C tier.. that one is super professional.. just because he wasn't buddying up to you doesn't mean it's a bad back off imo..
Awesome as always again mate.
Is burning like 10 cards face down in the beginning of a shoe not the answer for resolving the card counting problem for the casino’s?
I’ve managed to snag close to $900k in 3 months and never got backed off once . I can talk to people, look away from the table and still count. I learned how to count cards in the mid 90s because I was really bored one summer with a broken foot. I started to use my ability recently. I’m surprised he got backed off so many times.
You were lucky considering that he said his friend who also count cards had bad luck too.
Funny how "he treated my like a human being" is a high bar 😂😂
Great videos I’ve watched them 3 x4 times love the videos
Is there any State that allows Card Counters to play unrestricted?
At 11:30, i agree, he would've turned nasty if u had 9,999usd and refused to give id
12:18 did he not raise the minimum from $10 to $50? I heard 10 to 50 in that order, so confused as to what that was implying….anyone??
8:30 Hey I drive by the Tulalip Casino on I-5 almost daily
bingwatching ur channel, so dope, never stop pls
Thanks mate
Love your videos, Steven!
Thank you!
Casinos don't even know the difference between Law and policy anymore.
Facts
Even more scary is that some do know the difference, and choose to violate your rights knowing that most would cave or probably won't go through the trouble to challenge it in any capacity that would bring repercussions.
Hey Steven, have you ever thought about going to play other casino games that are completely luck based when you can feel some heat from the casino? I have a theory that they might not think you're a card counter if they see you playing more than just black jack and instead of assuming you count cards they might just think you're "Getting Lucky" at the table. You talked about meeting another old man card counter who was playing the slots, and I have an idea that maybe he was doing that too. Just cause if you're only at the Black Jack table it might be a dead sign that's all you plan on playing. Might help to start with some roulette or slots, sacrifice $50, then go on and play and see if it takes longer for a back-off to happen
i dont think u understand how much ev u burn by playing other games
The more time you spend not playing black jack the less money you make per hour.
He needs to maximise game time amongst other things. So it is more efficient to just look which Casinos are in a certain are and plan a trip to play at each casion for as long as possible until moving to the next casino.
The time you spend playing at a different game, in the hopes to maybe play a bit more blackjack at the casino, can be spent driving already to the next location.
It's a great question. The two other replies hit the nail on the head. Playing other games is expensive. And a lot of the time it's a case of surveillance not even noticing you until you start doing counting behaviour. So the other game probably won't affect their perception as they won't be paying attention until you're playing BJ
@@stevenbridges Gotcha gotcha, makes sense, I guess yeahh security would be tighter at the only game where you can actively beat the casino haha. I feel like Irish does a good job of hiding he's a counter, just acting and playing so aggressively so no one wants to pay attention to you, but can't outright refuse you, hiding in plain sight kinda stuff
@@taliesine.8343 True, guess it doesn't work, but yeahh it was mostly supposed to be a solution for having to drive to another casino, especially since his picture may be given out to other casinos and it'd be hard to count at another one. Ideally instead of lets say 4 hours of cunting then a backoff, hopefully, itd result in 4 hours of counting, 40 minutes of other games, then a few more hours of counting if something like that would work
Love your content and can't wait for the next series. Cheers!
I’ve been trying to learn deviations and I’m curious if deviations change going from 6 deck to 8 deck with the same rules other than the total decks
We keep ours the same. For double or single deck there are tweaks
Woah thanks for replying love the content keep it up. I look forward to every upload :)
That’s interesting that they aren’t allowed to not cash you out. That’s what I felt when I couldn’t cash out. But I was waiting for a hand pay instead of holding chips. Felt pretty messed up to not mind when you lose but when you win then you are a dangerous criminal.
Love your content. Love your energy🙂
Don’t even show ID to police unless they say you’re detained for a crime and will arrest you if you don’t.They give your info to the casino under the guise of a trespass warning notice.
Yeah good point
@@stevenbridges The issue with that is that a large percentage of American officers just don't care and will arrest you over it. It's whether getting arrested over your principles is worth it.
Hey Steven
First i love your Videos. i have a little quastion. When you count can you put a little window maybe in the Corner where you show the running Count and the true Count. i woud be happy if you can do that
I do that sometimes but in some videos there's not a clear shot of the table the whole time so I can't really do it retroactively. But if you check out the first ep of Season 2 there's a part there where I have the count on the screen 😃
I love your videos bro! I aspire to be like you someday but for now I am doing fairly well with basic strategy. Keep being awesome!
This was very interesting, thus, outstanding
Hello Steven i find your videos interesting and wanted to ask if you would ever make a video in which you show yourself card counting in a casino and commenting on your thoughts via edit, I think it'd be a very interesting and fun video and others might agree, it would add well to a card counting tutorial video that you've made.
Tulalip is one of my local casinos, glad I saw this
Putting in your entire life savings via cash: Thanks, stranger
Cashing out $1: We need to see your ID, sir
Colorado is a little....extra. That last bit doesn't surprise me at all. Haven't tried to count cards there, but they will literally card you every few minutes (quite aggressively sometimes) even if you're just roaming about the floor and wearing one of the over 21 wrist bands that they give out, at least in the casinos I've been in. Hats off to anyone who actually pulls it off!
So many times they've asked for ID for age verification, but it's not like they're going to return everything you've lost if it turns out you're underage
I was known as a Card Counter in one casinos in Hollywood Florida dealers were friendly and they knew I counted. A couple of dealers evened up playing fantasy football with. A pit boss knew I was a Card Counter(heard him mention a couple of times) he never snitched on me. Months later got backed off. But I spoke to pit boss and he said surveillance ended up catching me which was true since I got stopped as soon as I walked through doors
Pair up with a civil right lawyer and focus on the most criminal casinos and sue them.
The casino where they mistook him for someone else was good that they apologized for their mistake and even offered to buy him dinner probably at the buffet or the restaurant they have. Also the other one where they were nice about it mostly.
YESSSS new Steven vid!
Love your content I had a question how do you determine count if they don’t show you the first burn card
As a dealer whenever someone is drunk on my table and they over tipping I always ask why or even take the tip and bet with them so we both win. No one’s gonna say no to a tip but always make sure they’re playing right and making good decisions
the good decision would be to stop
there is a reason barkeeps cut people off when they have had too much
I love this video so much, it really “sticks it” to the casinos in a *you know who you are* attitude, punk asf, I hope this moves along and shows innovative casinos how human relations should be approached
I'm a little confused. I thought they would have to ID you at the door to make sure you are over 21
14:42 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO -1 +1 is not allowed