How To Move The Trail Elbow In The Golf Swing (Downswing)
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- Golf Tip - How to move the trail elbow in the downswing - 2 simple drills.
Alistair Davies golf Uk Top 25 Golf Coach shares with you how to move the trail elbow to maximise distance and consistency.
This is a key move to get pressure on the ball. The elbow function allows the hands to work seamlessly through impact. This trail elbow move is what we see from the best players on the pga tour. He also shares a great practice drill from Pete Cowen.
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Timeline:
00:00 intro to trail elbow in downswing
00:44 common mistakes with trail elbow
01:19 pete cowen axe drill to help trail elbow
02:49 punch feel trail elbow
03:30 drill 2 for trail elbow move in the golf swing
03:38 pull the trail elbow down
04:10 hitting demos
05:37 end
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Thanks for watching Golf Tip - How to move the trail elbow in the downswing - 2 simple drills. Alistair Davies golf shares with you how to move the trail elbow to maximise distance and consistency.
Ah ah, I finally understood the axe drill! When Pete Cowen explains it I've never managed to understand it. He's one hell of a teacher but I'm not sure that pedagogy is his forte ;-)
The toe down drill is a game changer Alistair. Not only does it promote proper trail arm movement in the downswing, it's also makes keeping your right shoulder under the swing plane and rotating the lower body towards the target easier. I wish I had seen your video 25 years ago. It would have saved me a lot of brain damage! Cheers.
Thanks Peter
These videos are excellent, concise and informative - I'm very glad I've found this channel!
the ax drill changed my game. Thanks Alistair!!
Thanks Michael
One of the better videos I've ever seen! Whenever I get back to the range which seems to be taking me forever to make happen, this position will be my main focus.
The trailing elbow position has been on my mind for months.
Thanks 🙏
BEST DRILL EVER
Thanks
Not played for 5 years... after playing for about 10...I got down to 12 but my consistency was very hit and miss,,,I just couldn’t fix an out to in swing path...I tried everything even lessons didn’t work with different pros...as a left hander but playing right handed. I never really used or thought about my right arm it just came along for the ride as my dominant left arm and wrist did all the work..I thought I was cursed. to hit a draw or even set the ball of right was a distant dream. After stumbling across this vid I instantly realised I’d struck gold... as my right elbow before and at impact was facing down the target line behind me... I could never get into the slot and now I know why.... after a few trips to the range I was shaping from right to left...Amazing....will try again next spring and who knows I may start up again. Like I said...for me BEST DRILL EVER thank you Alistair..........Stephen😇👍
@@topcat2166 thanks stephen, and good luck
Thank You. Great lesson and tip for practice. As always.
Thanks. Al
A big big thank you Alister I’ve finally started to nail the swing after watching and trying your drills .I have only just started to play the the wonderful game this summer and thought it would never happen after watching many people on UA-cam I came across your channel. Tried your drills out played a few games and went from 120 a round to 102 . I find I am hitting the ball more pure and straight all I can say is a big thank you and I hope you keep on posting more video’s that I can take and improve my game . 👍
Thanks Davie, keep at it, you will be soon in the 90s and lower. Al
Mr. Davies, I truly wish to thank you for this video. I've watched it before, but I was concentrating on something else at the time and never realized the importance of this video. I am one whose elbow points away from the target. I thought this was the most powerful position, but I can never get consistency nor distance. I've tried every possible swing style, but only one club would work per style. In this video, I've learned to harness my potential. I've learned the importance of the follow through. I've also used and stretched muscles I've never felt before. Now I am hitting my wedges through my 3 wood quite nicely. So many thanks to you. I've only just modified my swing so consistency remains to be seen, but I have high hopes.
Hi Christopher, great message. Many thanks for posting it. Good luck with your golf! Al
Love that swing mate, looks so fast and powerful
Thanks 🙏
Great explanation Alistair, these drills are so simple and work for all levels of golfers to generate more power off the tee. Cheers
Thanks 🙏
This is everything I'm working on at the moment, superb drills - Great video! Thanks :)
Thanks Christian
Great help to improve the strike quality of my Irons. Helping me to stay through the shot
Thanks Andy
Nice job Alistair, thanks for sharing!
Thanks al
This is very good. Thank you Mr. Davies. The right elbow action is key to getting proper ball compression at impact. The downswing position you show of the butt end of the club being even with the golf ball (face on view) while the shaft is still parallel to the ground is a position that almost every world class player gets into. This position just about guarantees some amount of shaft lean at impact, which is what we all want for consistent, compressed strikes.
Thanks appreciate it al
This is amazing! Thank you so much!!
Thanks Huy. Al
Correct point
Thanks well explained. Simple practise technique thanks.
Thanks Al
Great explanation! Will give this drill a try! Thanks!
Thanks 🙏
Great video, have been working on my right elbow position recently, haven't seen the axe drill before, love it 😀
Thanks, let me know how it goes. Al
I've hit upon your videos and found them to be very informative. You give a great perspective on how to hit shots with drills that I feel better explains the golf swing. I've incorporated them into my practice. Really enjoy your videos and instructions!
Thanks Frederick I appreciate the comments. Al
love the pete cowen axe drill and a good use of it in this drill will definitely do some work on this at the range as this has helped my ball striking no end! thanks keep up the great content alistair 👍
+Wayne Smith Thanks Wayne appreciate the feedback al
This is what I been missing my whole life thank you so much
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Thank you Mr Alistair
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Great explanation.
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Very good instruction.
Thanks,
Ben
Thanks Ben
Man am I glad I found this vid. Have tried so many things to get that back elbow to stop chicken winging on the downswing. Just grabbed a club and took dry swings with toe down drill. Already feels connected. Thanks
+JC R thanks jcr hope it helps
Very clear concept. Thanx
Thanks 🙏
It makes perfect sense,i am going to try the routine today !
+andrew arfon jones Thanks Andrew
I've just discovered your videos and subscribed. Excellent drills, but even better, short and to the point.
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback al
Good stuff. I feel like this is such an important move in the golf swing .
Thanks 🙏
this is exactly what i needed never seen this before
+jerald hawkins thanks Jerald, good luck al
Great first drill Alistair thanks.
+Motty 147 thanks good luck! Al
Great information !!!!!!
Thanks 🙏 Terry
Well presented!
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Excellent!
+Natalie Dean thanks al
Tqvm.. this help me a lot to understand better how to hit correctly. 👍👍
Great. Thanks al
I love the imported sounds within the video!! Hahaha very good video something I’ve struggled with and I wish I’d seen this sooner
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You are quite exceptional A. How you explain Drills and Concepts is Top Shelf
Thanks you, means a lot ! Al
Love this
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Great video! And beautiful pass at the ball, that was smooth
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Another great lesson... thanks
Thanks Mike
Great to the point lesson...I see why you have so many views..and I learn as much from questions you answered....what or who influenced your method ...any names would be greatly appreciated...at 72 I am more into theory and methods than my score..vicious yips have made study of various methods and practice more important than my performance..its great nephews Age 9 I am thinking about. I will follow closely.😎
Great drill
Thanks Nigel
Excellent video
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Great lesson. You make it so easy to understand. The problem is trying to remember it ! 😀👍
Thanks Rich
Very nice tip
Thanks al
most times over the ball , i am dealing with a tensed up body from being on the masonry tools for 30 yrs , however your advice has really helped my shortish swing , thanks mate all the way from dunsborough lakes , west oz .
Thanks, hope all is well in Oz
Great Stuff
+james fitzgerald Thanks James
Very very good!
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Interesting, only last week was trying to get my elbow in correct position but could not understand other videos. This makes it clear and I understand what to do. Will try both drills at range tomorrow and let you know how it went.
Perfect please let me know how it goes. Thanks al
that sound when you it the ball, sweet :)
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Getting more of a pitch trail elbow pre impact is huge and mine always wants to get behind my right hip. Thanks for these drills, I have Cowens video but was doing the axe drill wrong
Thanks Scott, this is my version of the drill so can be done more than one way. Thanks al
Yours seems to make more sense if youre trying to isolate a pitch elbow. Thanks again
WOW Fabulous demo, I tried this out today and I was even par after 8, (a first) but then had to walk in as the four ball in front of me (old rulers) would not wave me through! So I walked in! But playing tomorrow early so i should not have that problem!
Thanks Alan. Good luck
good tip
+Ron Bond thanks 🙏
Very good video
Thanks Scott
This may be the BEST tip I've ever had to get the feeling of hitting from inside. Great tip. Thanks Alistair.
+Howard Burch thanks Howard
You connected the issue to result as I see it, compress the ball, what good ball strikers do, part of the swing, not the only as small commentor's seem to want all to know how swing smart they are - I like drills, thanks
Thanks al
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Nice, I've never seen the ax drill, but I can see how that motion would force your trailing elbow into that bent position at impact.
Thanks Brian. Al
Good video. This elbow move will shallow the down swing? Also, may I know should I move my elbow first then turn my hip for weight shaft for the down swing sequence? Thanks a lot.
Thanks Packy, yes will help shallow the swing and ideally move the hip first. Al
Good tip, Alistair. I'll give this a try. Oh, one thing: a typical pitcher in American baseball doesn't move his arm the way you describe, but every shortstop in our professional, big leagues does. Same game; different position. Our pitchers throw overhand not sidearm. The elbow, does lead, but in a different axis.
By the way, Golf teaching pro, Peter Finch, does the second drill before nearly every shot he hits in Rick Shiels golf vlogs, and Finch, an average sized man, can often whack the ball a long way. Finally, you do a good job & thanks for replying to my comments.
Thanks for the info. Al
Would a good swing thought be the shaft follows the underarm crease in right elbow in downswing.? My difficulty is how bent the right elbow should be at impact....is there a thought for this or does Pete Cowen's drill provides the feel for this? Thx as always for your great instructions
Yes in the lower part of downswing. And yes get the feels from the drill. Thanks Thomas
Good simple to use drill, anything for curing out to in ? cheers P
Hi Philip, I have a few, take a look at this one ua-cam.com/video/7a_fgLX2OWA/v-deo.html
Thanks al
Critical for this drill to work is the proper counterclockwise winding of the right forearm in the backswing.
Excellent lesson, thank you. Question, at what point should a golfer feel the club release past their hands? We all strive to have our hands in front of the ball at contact and not release that lag tension, but at some point, the club head must release past the hands in order to get club head speed keep the ball from slicing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. By the way, that was a beautiful swing you put on that ball!
Hi and thanks!! In an ideal world 4-6 inches or so past the ball. But it has to suit your pattern, so let the ball flight teach you if it needs to be earlier or later. Al
Alistair Davies Golf thank you sir!
Thank you for clearing up something heard this awhile ago but it was alot clearer by you from Rick Mason
Thanks Rick! Al
Two very interesting drills Alastair that I never saw or heard of before. I will give them a go next time I am in the range. Did you ever consider flagging the point in the video where they are (eg, drill one at 1.27 and drill 2 at 3.25) so that people can go there first and then, if they like them, can go back and view the entire video? Now I am off to look at your other videos.
Thanks Michael, hadn’t thought of that. Will give it some thought. Al
I've noticed in doing these drills, that I can achieve much the same feel of the "R elbow power storage and release" by feeling the R elbow tucked hard into the right side (as long as the R side is turning into the ball and not swaying into it). In making a throwing motion "at the ball" the R elbow flies out a little bit but throwing down a line between the toe line and the ball, forces the R elbow into the side until the release to be accurate and thrown with speed (I'm an ex-pitcher). Does that jive with what you are saying?
+DocDLH yes just watch it doesn't get too close that To is forced out during impact too much. Thanks al
Good Video Alisatair. As a Swing thought what do you think of 'keep the R/elbow in front of the Right hip or the Right side Shirt seam, throughout the swing?
Thanks front of right hip sounds good
@@adaviesgolf Thanks Very Much Alistair, I'll continue to work on this and let you know how it goes. Regards James
@@justjames1111 thanks
Alistair, enjoyed the axe drill and tried this today and found good strikes and solid contact but the club was so open I had to really rotate my hips to try to square this up but never quite achieved this. Any suggestions on how to avoid it being so open? Thanks for all your content peter.
maybe pre-closing it (club face) at address?
..supinate, don’t forget to supinate
Love the overdubbed strike sound from the 1990's at 4:18 :-)
Yea that was wierd
It made me laugh
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good stuff ...could you talk a little bit more about the "straight knee for sure" 3:18 ...are you referring to the lead or trail knee ?? Thx !!
Hi think from watching it back if I am getting the right bit I am talking about the trail arm straightening. Thanks
Great video, apparently there’s 121 people that don’t understand how important it is to externally rotate the Rt shoulder and get the Rt elbow into this position
Thanks Scott
If more golfer new this move they would improved the game overnight.!
Thanks Dean!!
Hi. What you are referring to is the vertical dropping of the club that all great players can do. Might I then suggest that you grab the grip of the club with a strong placement of your trail hand ( knuckles under the the grip of the club) and then pre rotate you trail arm with your trail elbow pointing inward towards your hip as you look down at the ball. Now simply swing the club and the vertical drop; (ideal lagging of the club prior to impact) takes place automatically. Cheers.
+Thomas Fraser sorry don’t understand that
That's OK I hope to show betters in a video someday soon as the weather clears
+Thomas Fraser thanks
Alistair Davies Golf I can see why you did not understand me back then. Man were my thoughts all screwed up. I think you will like my updated knowledge and application to my swing better today. Actually you use your Magic Trail Elbow perfectly. Thanks for bearing with me.
Can you clarify that the right arm should slowly release from the top with the elbow leading ... Some say keeping the right angle bent until the club is parallel is a myth ... Great video ...
Thanks. Yes the right arm should only be straight after impact. Al
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Hello, I tried this tonight. It was quite weird the first few practice swings but i understood how the elbow needed to move to ensure the club reached the ball in the correct position. It is important to not pull the elbow down but to let it fall if that makes sense. After approximately 50 practice swings I hit a few balls with a 9 iron. The first few were topped but after a short while I hit some great shots, the ball went high with a little draw. I then tried the second drill for approximately 50 swings without ball then I hit balls. First few not great but then after a short while I got into the correct sequence. I then hit some 5 irons which went very well with a bit of draw. It felt effortless because I did not swing hard trying to thrash the ball. I will persevere with this for a few days then at the weekend I will hit woods (my woods are awful - hooking and slicing with the odd one going straight).
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with it. Al
I'm a long time classic push/hooker (way from the inside). I've been trying to get unstuck for 10 years but every time I get that elbow in front of me, the face is way open. Help?
+Joseph Smith hi Joseph this should help
ua-cam.com/video/Mmdb8o1Cx9k/v-deo.html
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You are probably not turning your lower body through. You would have to do that to square up the club
Check your grip! It seems incorrect!
Robert Spangler my lower body is actually spinning too fast. That’s why the elbow is stuck behind me
Hi Al, do you think its possible to become a tour pro at the age of 30 ? Ive played for many years and my score varies around the 15 - 10 handicap mark. Im obsessed with golf but unfortunately because of work its very hard to get the practise in to take things to that next level. Whats your thoughts being realistic mate ?
+23lnp Hi don’t think age is an issue as long as ability is present. Only issue in age comes when you can’t hit it far enough. But 30 is absolutely fine, average age on Tour is older than that. Thanks
To even consider it, you'd have to be scoring -3 to -6 each and every time you play at your local club.
Would like to see video go to slow-Mom in the downswing 👍
Hi Pam, will do that more in future videos! Al
Coordinate the inside of your right forearm with your right pelvis through the strike
So are we supposed to always point the club head to the ground? Works in theory but not when you go back to a normal grip. Just a band aid.,
Hi Joseph, the idea of any practice swing or drill is to tell your brain what you want it to do and give your body feels. Hopefully either through conscious thought or slowly improving current movement patterns you should see change! Al
So if we did this with a normal setup, the clubface would be 90 degrees open at impact. What then?
Hi Joseph, remember this is a drill. But to get the face square it relies on body, arm, and wrist rotation also. Thanks al
Joe Smith exactly what I thought.
Watch this to hit your driver from the inside every time ua-cam.com/video/5FvUax8dzX4/v-deo.html
Man, that is one perfect recipe for a high push 100 yards right of target. I watched this video several times and my eyes didn't deceive me. At the moment of impact, your watch (back of your left hand) was facing the camera. In other words your left hand is 90 degrees open. The back of the left hand IS THE CLUB FACE and it should be facing the target at the moment of impact and it also should be bent so the wrist is slightly closer to the flag than the back of the left hand. This will deloft the club a bit and if you look at any tour pro, you'll see this position at impact. When "they" talk about trapping the ball, that's the position they are referring to. Also, when the back of the left hand is facing the target, the right wrist is bent backwards. That's another sign of good impact position. However, you're the instructor, not me so if this is the way you want to teach your students, far be it from little old me to rock the boat. One last thing....."FORE RIGHT!"
Please show me a publication where the back of your left hand is the club face. The back of the left wrist is angled at address. Plus this a drill!!!!!!. Drills influence the normal. In twenty years of coaching I have had one player that overdoes this move. So therefore won’t do anymore any harm.
Is there a high pitch ringing or is it just me?
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+Paul Brown Thanks 🙏
Love your video!
However you pointed out that if you were a pitcher; the trail hand would be behind the trail elbow. And you demonstrated this at the shallow end of the swing of the club.
No disrespect intended but I believe this is the part that has confuse me for years as I was attempting that exact move as I tried to release the club with my trail forearm at the bottom of my swing. Then of course my shot connections became terrible and this action brought me down a rabbit hole where I never recovered until now as I felt I needed to think too much about my hands wrist, hips and knees position and actions as well. And as if theses elements in my swing were not enough I also needed to specifically rotate and release my club in perfect timing and tempo at impact while I attempted to have all my body parts in sequence. And not to mention the constant practice and exercises over the years that never actually improved my game Yuck! 😁
Yes I am a PGA victim being slaughtered by countless and meaningless advice by PGA professionals
But not any more and never again because I have discovered the one secret of golf that any player can uses with instant success.
Delusional you say? No at all!
Simply put the magic move of golf is at the top of my backswing I forget about my hands altogether.
My only swing thought from now on to activate what I coined ' The Magic Trail Elbow ' at the start of my downswing. Another words instead of having my trail elbow ahead of my trail hand at the shallow end of my swing as you just demonstrated in this video; I start this action at the top of my downswing allowing my trail elbow to lead my trail hand. This one precise action on my part automatically opens up my lead side; shallows my club and brings my trail elbow in front of my trail hip allowing me to swing my arms as fast as I wish to do for full, complete and automatic finish of my swing.
Forget about your hands and try my 'Magic Trail Elbow' move at the top of your downswing; not at the bottom; for yourself and discover golf's secret move for yourself. Sense the new and powerful feeling of simply swinging your arms in a golf swing by allowing all the other parts of your body to respond to the activation of your magic trail elbow. Then let me know if I am delusional or not. Cheers
P. S. Harvey Penick In his Little Red Book on the magic move in golf; touch on this significantly years ago and I just thought I would bring it back to life today.
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Is this Ben Hogan style?
Yes sort of, certainly elements of it. al
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Next how to move the pinky toe to get more distance
So once you practice these drills you'll be wanting to learn another drill that'll help you square the club face through impact as these drills are going to mess that up pretty good.
+chebrneck some players may produce an open club face with this concept. Watch this to help understand ua-cam.com/video/Mmdb8o1Cx9k/v-deo.html
My right elbow gets trapped behind my extra large belly.
A slow motion swing would be more helpful.
Noted
This does not matter if you continue to rely on the misconception of the golf swing, and everyone does! So, good luck breaking 80!
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