My unique StarLink mobile install- Watch before you buy!
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- In this video I discuss a few options on how to mount a StarLink Satellite dish on my Jeep and ultimately the option that I chose.
I briefly interview Brandon Walsh, the owner of Star-Mount Systems, a company that has developed several mounts and modifications for the StarLink series of satellite dishes that allow for several different mounting options on your vehicles.
The video includes a demonstration of what is involved in removing the rear of the dish and installing it in one of the Star-Mount System panels.
This video is not sponsored by Star Mount Systems and I purchased the mount myself.
If you decide to do this modification on your own dish, please know that it will void your warranty.
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This modification is also a great advantage when I participate in my Ham Radio Parks On The Air POTA activity. DE. WW9I
Just called these guys and Brandon answered. What a guy. I'm not purchasing one of his units but asked him for a dimension. It was on the tip of his tongue and wouldn't let me donate a beer for his trouble! Peeps like this are rare! Thank you Brandon!
Brandon is a real genuine standup guy. Outstanding race care driver too! Thanks for the kind words.
Let's go Brandon!
My husband and I just watch your video, very interesting and congratulations on your new space, we are the parents of Sherry Ann Konrad and grandparents of Mikaela
I like the hood mount. I would likely mod a hood scoop and make it look aerodynamic. Great video!
Cool Starlink install with the StarMount. Now it's time to use Gaia with Carplay and clean up that mess on your dashboard.
What he called a big magnet is actually a ferrite ring that keeps radio frequencies from traveling up the wire. You actually do need that specially with the different radio frequencies coming from an automobile
I caught that in the description when Brandon was removing it. As a amateur radio operator I am plenty familiar with ferrite rings since we use them all the time. In this application I am guessing that it was intended to prevent RF noise when the motors are engaged, but since we removed the motors and potentially the source of the RF interference, the core is no longer needed.
Same here in WA6 land. I saw that. It never hurts to have lots of ferrite filters. That is a RF PC board connecting to the car power supply.
Any knows the website of this?
star-mountsystems.com/
Very nice setup you have there Stan and it’s great the company in San Diego can convert the dish in such a great looking way.
What a Great Set up. I was unaware you could make phone calls through it. That is a game changer for me because in Australia some of the places i often go there is Zero phone service for many hours. I have put of buying a sat phone, to date I can make calls through my HF radio, but of course I have to have signal to a base to be able to do so. I may now seriously look into doing this & a 12 volt system would also be the go! Cheers!
It's called VOIP, or voice over IP that runs over any usable internet connection..
Think: skype with the phone gateway subscription.
Even if all the cool kids have moved away from skype, ICQ… IRC… telnet… telex… and pneumatic…godI feel old…
What an informative video u made, thank u for introducing us to the modifier, he's doing some important work in the field of communication, now i know where to go, thank u guys.
LOVE your dish setup!! Good to know how to dismantle and convert! Thanks for sharing!
It works really well mounted flat. I have a quick release bracket and 12v router that I’ll be adding soon. Video update coming soon.
Came from the starlink group on Facebook. This is amazing!!
Thank you Hannah! Keep watching for an update when I install the quick release bracket and 12v router!
Nice work there!
They really should offer a DC power supply for the RV option.
My next video will be of a DIY DC power supply and router option that you can build from off the shelf parts. Make sure to follow and hit that bell to get notified when I publish the video! (I have a family emergency that is delaying things a bit but I should have it up i a couple of weeks)
@@jeepNtreetop sweet set up - thanks..looking forward to the 12v version
There is cool and then there is seriously cool. This is just beyond cool.
Thank you for the compliment!
Just ordered and installed this kit ..I would say skill level required is moderate… if you are handy it’s a straight forward install , main thing take your time be careful you don’t slip with the Dremel their website gives step by step instruction and of corse this video..
Makes me wonder why they made these things so bulky in the first place. They totally could have saved materials by making it this flat to begin with! Cool video! I think I might have to do this for my Jeep camper too!
This was a very easy mod. Star-Mount system makes a couple other variations of this mount now since this video was made.
Brilliant video Bubbs, well done !
Thanks, feel free to ask any questions. New 12v router posting soon…
Very interesting system. I'm interested in seeing the 12V router video when that comes out as I don't like having to run the inverter for my dish
I’m working on that now. Should be up in shortly.
Would love to see this too
@@DerrickLytlephoto all the parts are in so I’ll be making the video shortly after the holiday. Thanks for watching!
My same issue-running the inverter drains my batteries!
Thank you for this, I was planning on going a more expensive setup but this is just a capable and at a better price.
Yes the StarMount system is very cost effective and if you look through their site they have a quick release bracket as well, which allows you to remove the dish with just two thumb screws in the event you need to move it to an unobstructed area when parked under some trees or something. I have that mount and will be doing a video on it soon.
LOVE this idea. great video. NOT so sure about the conversion though. "This is just a big magnet...so buy my kit?" Uh, nah. If you had an audio monitor connected, I'd be Super curious to discover what radio channels you get on that thing now. Keep us posted!
Nice setup. Getting me thinking of what I can do on my set up. Tks.
Nice video, thank you! ... My experience is that the Starlink proprietary STX connectors might not be as waterproof as many hope. In my case, about 3 weeks after I flat mounted my Dishy in the Starmount flat mount low profile, my system stopped working after a night with heavy rain. I then replaced the STX connectors with a waterproof RJ-45 coupler, which brought the system back to life. Thus my suggestion would be to consider a mount with a truely waterproof connector/coupler from a very beginning. Starmount's "all in one" model for example seemingly has such a connector.
So you cut the Starlink connector off and exited the Star-Mount with a pigtail?
In my case I filled the two little holes at the top of the Starlink connector with dielectric grease and then ran a piece of heat shrink over the top. So far it has been working well, going on almost a year.
@@jeepNtreetop At the moment my situation is still improvised as I have not found a waterproof RJ-45 coupler that can be easily diretcly mounted to the low profile Starmount. So at the moment I have the white dishy internal ethernet cable exit the Starmount through the hole and temporarily sealed the hole with the cable inside it. Yes, STX connectors were cut off and RJ-5 connectors crimped on, now inside a waterproof Rj-45 coupler. Can send a photo if of interest ...
This is just beyond coolest thing right here!
well done to you and Brandon - well done
looks very professional as all products of us
Great rig!! And awesome! Set up!
Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions.
Well done man!! That is one sweet setup.
Thanks. I’d heard of that guy doing that but never seen one or seen them in action. Cool!
This is a great video! If I ever need something like this, I know who I’m gonna go to. That guy is very meticulous. I like how it works. Thanks for doing this video.
Thanks for the comment. Brandon is a great innovator. He has a new all in on mount coming out soon that I will be doing a video on shortly.
That's a workable solution but where I take my 4X4 RV the dish would be broken off the mounting brackets after 250 miles of rocky dirt roads. I chose to get the click-in bracket (Amazon) on the end of the 3ft pole I mounted permanently on my RV ladder. Need internet, slide the dish out of the outside storage cabinet, click into the end of the pole and plug into the permanently mounted SL cable.
Since SL requires nearly 100% line of sight I ordered another extra long SL cable if my rig doesn't have line of sight I throw it on the ground and set the dish 75ft away from the rig in clear line of sight.
Better than moving the rig depending where I'm camping.
Tim, that is certainly a workable solution that you describe. I have another quick release bracket in the works and will be mounting it in the back on my Jeep. This way if I need to place the dish away from the Jeep, I just need to pop it out and place it where it has a clear view of the sky.
Very clean and versatile!
Thank you Johan..
Nice kit.
Think I'd have a more semi permanent mounting system for security reasons.
Bolted down to the hood or roof possibly.
Someone could make quick work of having a free Starlink panel quite easily with the suction mounts....however I do like the install look.
Thank you. 12v router and quick release bracket coming soon!
Once reported stolen its a brick...prob is thieves are idiots and would not know any better so your point remains valid.
Don't you lose signal when the dish is permanently flat? The purpose of the motors is to aim the dish DIRECTLY at the nearest satellite, right?? Seems like this way, you're always IN BETWEEN the sats... Or am I wrong??
Thank you for your video, it is exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks for the comment. Stay tuned for my next video of the quick release bracket and 12v router!
Great idea it really works thanks Brandon looks very professional
This guy has know idea what he is doing. The part where here broke what he called a magnet and it wasn't needed. That was a ferrite chock which is used to filter out noise and rf interference.
First, learn how to spell before you criticize others. Apparently you have no clue, that ferrite is to shield noise while the motors are in motion and since we removed the motors, the ferrite is then therefore no longer needed. We have thousands of units in the field with these ferrites removed.
All you need now is one of those 12v converters and connect GPIO.
Wow , we're looking at getting Starlink for our caravan in Australia and came across your video saying look at this before you buy etc. Very impressive and well put together video. Can I ask if one is able to buy this "kit" from someone like Brandon so one can modify a dishie or how does one proceed to get the parts here in Oz. Thanks for taking time to put this info out there
Yes. Contact Brandon at star-mountsystems.com/ his phone number is on the website. He can ship you everything that you need. Tell him Stan sent you 😄
LOVE LOVE LOVE x100000 your system!!
This is absolutely genius!!!
Hello, great video. Thank you! Could you tell me what kind of pipe system you have installed in the Cokpit. The one on which you have attached cell phone, monitor and iPad holders. Would be super nice. Thanks in advance and good luck.
The bar is made by Vector Off Road, it’s nicknamed the “vector bar” and all the mounts that attach to it are made by 67 designs. Both companies make all their products in the USA. 🇺🇸. There are other cheaper knockoff copies out there now.
Thank you very much! Very interesting and useful video. 👍
How about a bigger dish for better reception? I would personally use a silicone or liquid rubber sealant all around the edge to ensure a tight closure. Should do a continuous ping, throughput and latency test while driving. By the way, Huawei has satellite phone call on their latest model.
Off-road racers are the MacGyver’s of the desert 🏜️
Thankfully so, without these guys we would not have such innovative products.
Hello,
I think you need a connector protector that provides ip66 protection. Because moisture and dust will affect the socket connections.
Thanks for the comment, and I do agree with you. I need to figure out a way to shield that area a bit more- I do agree.
Brilliant!
Thank you! It’s been working great for over a year now with zero issues.
Hi JeepNtreetop, can you tell us what is the speed test when you are driving and when you are stop maybe make a video so we can see or send it here for me. Looking to get it on my semi. :D
Excellent video. Liked and subscribed.
From this video it looks like the base and half shell was POPPED off of the front. At 6 minutes the part in your hand does not look cut. How did you do that? What did the mod cost you when all is said and done?
Hello?
You ABSOLUTELY need that ferrite magnet FYI.
+Jared Denman my thinking is that the ferrite is for RF noise when the motors are running but since I have them unplugged, it is no longer needed. Do you have any more technical thoughts?
@@jeepNtreetop while it will block your RF noise for the motor, it blocks more than just that. The most important properties of ferrites include high magnetic permeability and high electrical resistance. High permeability to magnetic fields is particularly desirable in devices such as antennas. High resistance to electricity is desirable in the cores of transformers to reduce eddy currents.
@@thenerdshow it seems to be working well, if I begin to have issues, I will look into replacing that toroidal. Thanks for the info.
The dish is loose in the setup with the plastic "tub". It would be good to have something to fixate the dish inside the "tub". Otherwise, vibrations will kill it i guess
The dish is press fit in the enclosure and is a very tight fit. The lid holds it down as and makes it water and airtight. So far there has not been an issue with the hundreds of units out in the field, including the one that is mounted to the designer’s Baja 500 race car. If his unit can survive the torture of Baja race, I figure it can withstand anything I’ll ever put mine through.
This is awesome, thank you!
Use a hairdryer (cold setting obviously!) to clear plastic fluff?
Great Video, lot of info, thanks!
Two questions:
1. Does Starlink dishes need to face the satellites all the time? With the dish fixed on the hood, it won't be able to move to face the satellites.
2. I heard that Starlink RV version is portable but not mobile. Will it work while driving down the road?
The dish works perfectly fine pointing straight up at the sky. The Starlink dish uses a phased array system to “point” at the satellites.
And I subscribe to the RV service and it works while I am driving down the road. The dish itself has a gps receiver internally so it is programmed to turn off at above 80mph which is not an issue for most RVs
@@jeepNtreetop Thank so much for clarifying these facts. This is why we need first hand experience other than Those fine prints.
Thank you very much , Awesome info and very helpful !! ~peace~
great found👍🌻
Holly shit man, thanks for this, you helped me so much with this!
Glad to help! Feel free to reach out with any more questions. Stay tuned for my next video of my DIY 12v router that you can make yourself with off the shelf readily available (Amazon) parts!
@@jeepNtreetop I appreciate it. Subscribed!
I'm very impressed with your "man vehicle" setup... it's a like a dream come true. Maybe someday I will stand up to my wife and do something like that? 🤣
PS: I do have a "man cave" at home, but the girls have encroached, little by little upon it... so maybe a mobile "man space" will prevent that? One can only hope. 😁
thanks, this is awesome
Nice job! Have you switched to the DIY 12v system? How is it working and would you recommend going that route? Any thought on when that video might be ready? Thanks
Yes! And a new quick release bracket too…Video coming soon
27:20 INSET 👍
What a great setup! Will you run a speed test and let us know what your up/down speeds are?
Sure will! Standby for an update shortly.
I'm surprised SpaceX hasn't decided there's a valid market for flat panel mounting Starlink units. it would save them a lot of money on production for same units at same price, just with framed panel.
They do have a flat mount dish, that's authorized for in-motion, it's just expensive
Did you get that jab? Lots of heavy breathing after that light work of setting up the dish. I’ve noticed lots of heavy breathing in videos lately even when not doing a anything that stressful. Just concerned not bitching about it at all. My jee looks a lot like your set up but thinking about getting the patriot Camper x3. I’m tired of climbing all over my Jeep on vacation every time I wanna use my Jeep to go get something . Starlink dish set up is cool!
Boa tarde
Qual link eu posso acessar para comprar? Gostaria de comprar esse suporte da antena pois aqui no Brasil é um valor muito Alto
Genius.
Thanks for the kind words!
Yeah, not sure why anyone would have thought these wouldn't work while moving. The satellites they are connected to are moving 17,000 miles an hour. Out little 70 mph isn't even going to be noticed.
No issues while in-motion however the dish has a gps in it and supposedly will disconnect if it senses that you are moving faster than 70mph (according to the literature). I rarely drive that fast in my Jeep but I’ve gone 75 at times and it still did not disconnect so maybe that’s not a hard number. So far I have zero issues with it and it works great!
Great video
You should probably keep the "...it's just a big magnet" as it reduces the electromagnetic interference it is actually called a ferrite core: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_core.
So we have a rear view mirror camera, gps, cell phone, ham radio, a tablet, and another cell phone or tablet below it. I don't think you have enough devices in there.
The second tablet below the first was placed there, as mentioned in the video, I believe 3 times for “ demonstration purposes only” to show the audience that the dish works while “in-motion”. I do not watch Netflix while driving. The top tablet runs my Gaia GPS maps while I’m off road, which is cool thing about the Starlink Flat mount in motion setup because I always have up to date real-time maps- no need to download them ahead of time!
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing. How does this product solve for the need of the dish tilting? I didnt get a clear answer on that from the video.
The dish is a phased array and doesn’t actually NEED to be tilted but they say you may see a 10% reduction in speed. In a vast majority of cases that is negligible.
Great video. How do you deal with “alignment” with the satellite while in motion? My Starlink dish is mounted on my back deck and has to be perfectly positioned for a full signal. I don’t understand how it works mobile!
The dish uses a Phased array so it just needs to be pointed straight up with a clear view of the sky with zero obstructions. It doesn’t have to be “pointed” at the satellites.
@@jeepNtreetop so this dish is different than the one I use with my home Star Link? I don’t see any other choice’s on their website.
This is the standard dish. I just modified it my removing the motors and installed it into the Star-mount systems flat mount kit to flat mount it. BUT I subscribe to the “RV” service that allows me to use it while in motion.
seem like a pretty bing opertuniny missed by star link not offering a version like this would save alot of waited pastic being cut up and tossed away
FABULOUs, thanks a ton
Awesome!
Thanks 🛰👍
That mount looks pretty water tight, the original dish has ventilation holes, are you concerned with the lack of ventilation within the housing?
With the dish on the hood like that have you ever been concerned about heat damage to the dish? Would the roof have been an alternative for this type of installation?
No concern for heat because of all the air flow around the dish. The roof was not an option for me because it is completely covered with solar panels, otherwise it would be the best location. However I do have a new quick disconnect mount that I will be installing on my rear cargo rack that I will show you guys in my next video along with my diy 12v router.
If that twisted white cable running from the connector is coaxial i would be worried about its performance, having been so twisted. Coaxial cable has dimensions that must be maintained to properly conduct, contain, and protect radio frequencies (the carrier frequency)...I'm not even half way through the vid yet so...let's see how well it tests out. 🤔 Well @ 16:45 We get a gander at the innards of that white sheath and its not coaxial, but still so much twist...🤨 untwisting it was a great idea, let's see the test 😕
It tested out ok and works great! What had happened was that prior to this video I had the dish plugged in and sitting upside down in the back of my Jeep overnight so apparently it was rotating the motors trying to find a signal. So the base was just twisting causing the cable to twist….
@@jeepNtreetop oops 😬 😅 😳 Glad its working, no damage done👍! I thought it came from factory like that while watching the vid.
Is this the standard Starlink Dish, or the RV model? Quite a difference in the price of equipment and monthly service.
This is the standard dish ($599 version) with RV service that allows in-motion use and service from multiple locations as I travel.
Good afternoon,
I wanted to know if you accept orders from Brazil?
I prefer to do it with you because everything indicates that they are better than the services I found in Brazil.
Thank you Rafael Silva
Contact Brandon at star-mountsystems.com/
this is cool!
What about the heat from the jeep motor?
That will hurt the electronics, don't you think?
No issues at all, the suction cups that are used to mount the dish elevated it about an 1-1/2” so there is plenty of airflow. I haven’t had a problem in over a year of 24-7 use.
That's good. Have you had any problems with Starlink firmware upgrades that try to limit mobile units like yours? I have had the issue with the dish repointing itself into trees. I might modify the dish to only have it point up.
@@jimmoss9584 No issues at all. I travel all around the country and so far have not had any problems
Have you still been using it while driving? Have you had a warning from Starlink to stop this?
With my “RV” service I have had no issues as of yet. Still using it while in motion. 👍
17:30 not a magnet (not magnetic), ferrite bead filters out EMI or noise
Hi there. Thanks for the vid): Does inmotion not kick the service off after a certain speed...sorry if you did mention anything on this....maybe i missed it.
The new rule is apparently above 80mph.
@@jeepNtreetop ah i see ty:) didnt know that
Thanks for the video. Drove down to San Diego to have Brandon cut up & install the Starlink dishy Mac Flat Face. How’d you route the wires? Did you do a permanent install or configurable to remove wire/cable in case you need to move the dish to get a clear view of the sky? Trying to figure out wiring onto the roof without having to buy another cable on my overlanding truck rig.
Thanks Alex, Brandon is a cool dude, isn’t he? in the video I simply routed the cable through the door seal (in the Jeep it’s real easy). I did however find and bought bulkhead connectors that pass the shield through the cable and will be showing those in my next video. I’ll have to cut the cable to install them. But for now I’m just running the cable through the door. Brandon sells a quick release mount that I have so my dish will be mounted semipermanently in that mount on the back of my rig with a short cable going into the Jeep and 12v router.
Then if needed, I can snap the dish off the mount, add an extension cable, and place it in an unobtrusive location.
Thanks for the video. QQ: What is the rail mounting system inside of your Jeep?
Are you referring to the bar on the dash? That is made by Vector Offroad, commonly known as the “Vector bar”. All the bars and mounts are made by 67 design.
So here we are in early 2024. I have been told i cannot use my SL “in motion”. What is the Dealio on that issue?
Where did you get the backpack for the starlink? Good video 👍
It’s sold on the Starlink website.
Upadate on the starlink? Any issues since you installed flat mount?TIA
None whatsoever. It has been working great. In-motion as well.
What about mounting it INSIDE the jeep roof since the roof is fiberglass?
I should work through fiberglass, but in my case I have my entire roof covered in solar panels so that wouldn’t work for me.
New to Starlink so not really understanding this concept, how can this work if the dish needs a rotary motor to move the dish to find the satellites ? Does it not need to find its degree angle to fix its self to the satellite ?
No it does not. The dish is a phased array and electronically “points” at the satellites. The dish just needs to be pointed straight up at an unobstructed sky.
@@jeepNtreetop so question then , if I was to purchase the flat mount , how would it be able to melt the snow off if it’s in another case ?
@@jeepNtreetop was thinking I’d like to mount the dish flat mount on top of my iceshack / camper but not sure about the snow accumulation it would get if the heater is no longer functional being in a second case
Contact Brandon Walsh at Star-Mount Systems, he is the owner of the flat mount conversions.
can you please share how do you provide power to the starlink modem and antenna? Or recommend me something simple for my Honda Pilot 2016 … just need to power the starlink and charge 4 different phones at the same time
So does this turn an RV starlink into a mobile starlink? or R U starting with the SAtarlink Mobile system?
YES! It essentially does. I have RV service and with this modification I can flat mount the dish on my Jeep and have in-motion use (up to 80mph) with no issues. I’ve been running it like this for 6 months now as a thousand others are doing with no problems at all.
Why is the choke not needed?
The choke is there to cut down on electrical noise from the motors but since the motors are removed, the choke is no longer necessary.
Does it make speed slower if it can’t orientate to the correct sky location?
I haven’t noticed anything considerable. If anything, maybe 5-10% I’m still getting 90-100Mbs down consistently.
Hi nice setup! What wheels do you use? Currently searching for my Pajero 3rd gen.
I’m using the method MR701 wheels.
Here is a link:
www.tirerack.com/wheels/method-mr701-black-painted
@@jeepNtreetop Thank you so much!
Would not that RF coke that is removed. Is it there to stop Radio Frequency Interference?
Don, That choke I’m assuming is there to stop RF noise from the motors when they are running and since I unplugged them it is no longer needed. 73 WW9I ( I will start activating POTA soon, see you on the air!)
@@jeepNtreetop Keep your ears open for VA7BIX and the K0KLB on POTA 73
I knew this was way out of my wheel house when dude plugged starlink into a power strip in his vehicle.... Good watch though😂
Update: I'm also watching this at 1am and feeling like I'm watching hardcore porn and trying to figure out how I can get my wife to be on board with this... 😂😂😂
What Backpack are you using at the beginning of this video to store the Starlink prior to your modification?
That is the Starlink backpack that is found on their website.
I made my lines but didnt cut. Too me, it appears that my lines are too high. What is the approx distance on the short edge to the line?