00:01 📚 "The Antichrist" by Nietzsche is a complex work that goes beyond critiquing Christianity, incorporating various philosophical ideas. 01:00 🧬 Nietzsche identifies "The Antichrist" with Dionysus, representing violent passions, contrasting with Christian values. 03:46 ⚖ Nietzsche's fundamental opposition is Dionysus versus the Crucified, symbolizing Christian morality as anti-nature and anti-life. 08:10 📖 "The Antichrist" is part of Nietzsche's project for the revaluation of all values, challenging Christian values and seeking a new moral philosophy. 16:08 🤔 Nietzsche criticizes modernity for its relativism and lack of a firm moral stance, emphasizing the importance of committing to necessary fictions in values. 20:56 📜 Nietzsche argues against unquestioned moral values and faith, which were prevalent in religious systems, and advocates for a new direction in the age of relativism and cosmopolitanism. 23:03 💪 Nietzsche defines "good" as that which enhances the feeling of power and "bad" as that which proceeds from weakness, emphasizing the importance of power and strength in his moral framework. 27:30 🔄 Nietzsche contrasts the modern person's avoidance of suffering and conflict with the hyperborean's embrace of conflict and the war-like nature of life, highlighting the rejection of contentment and utopianism. 30:12 🧭 Nietzsche shifts from the idea of man as a bridge (in Zarathustra) to man as an end, focusing on enhancing human life in the present rather than striving for a utopian future. 33:24 🔄 Nietzsche challenges the concept of progress, suggesting that evolution doesn't necessarily lead to betterment, and he warns against projecting utopian ideals onto the future. 39:08 📉 Nietzsche introduces the concept of decadence, defining it as the loss of instincts and the preference for values detrimental to growth and power, highlighting its influence on contemporary values. 42:09 🌍 Sociologist John Glubb discusses the stages of empires, including expansion, commercial prosperity, luxury, intellectualism, and arts, followed by decline. 43:04 💰 During the age of affluence, wealth pours in, leading to luxurious living, art patronage, and architectural development. 43:47 🤑 In the age of affluence, the focus shifts from honor and duty to accumulating wealth, leading to a decline in militancy and moral justifications for not engaging in conflict. 44:28 🌐 At "high noon," the empire stops expanding, leading to factionalism, civil unrest, and eventual collapse, often at the hands of a new emerging empire. 45:08 🧠 Intellectualism replaces military readiness, and subsidies replace weapons as nations become less willing to engage in conflict. 46:06 🗺 Nietzsche and Glubb agree on the later stages of society or empire characterized by decline in strength, correlating culture to the loss of instinct. 49:36 🌸 Nietzsche sees higher ideals, morality, art, and education as products of decadence and decline in strength. 52:28 🤝 Pity, a central value in Christianity, is criticized by Nietzsche as it spreads suffering and makes life questionable, ultimately weakening society. 57:14 💪 Nietzsche's higher man is not a cruel sociopath but magnanimous, generous, and compassionate by nature, not driven by resentment. 01:02:53 🧐 Nietzsche condemns pity as a manifestation of weakness, leading to resentment and vindictiveness in society. 01:03:19 🤔 Nietzsche criticizes the separation of rational thought and philosophical education from life, which he sees as a production of corruption and decadence, causing a detachment from instincts. 01:04:57 😢 Nietzsche argues that the separation of the soul and abstract thought from the law of natural selection leads to the emergence of pity, which he considers a form of nihilism and a denial of life. 01:06:21 👎 Nietzsche views Schopenhauer as hostile to life due to his elevation of pity as a virtue, which ultimately negates life and promotes decadence. 01:09:23 🙏 Nietzsche criticizes theologians, such as Kant, for inverting values, making virtue impersonal, and reducing the world to mere appearances, contrasting this with his idea of a more embodied and personal approach to virtue. 01:15:52 🧪 Nietzsche values a scientific approach that includes the body, passions, culture, and perspective, emphasizing the importance of a science that is not detached from the material world. 01:23:07 🐾 Nietzsche advocates for a more modest perspective, placing humanity among the animals and valuing intellectuality as a result of craftiness. He rejects deriving man from the spirit and godhead.
I totally get Nietzsche’s points throughout his work. Antichrist has many of them. But I personally found Antichrist to be tedious and repetitive, and Nietzsche’s style devolving during his final active years. You can only say “Christianity bad” so many times before it gets boring.
Once again, dear teacher, your student here. What an honor! Listening to your podcast and lectures, is an excellent exercise to honing and whetting my humble intelectual faculties.
I just want to say thank you for the very deep and thoughtful replies you’ve left on a handful of videos now. I have read all of them, and am always glad to meet a kindred spirit on the quest of philosophy! Cheers, my friend.
01:23:37 📜 Nietzsche criticizes how modern man has lost free will and willpower, reduced to mere reactions to stimuli. 01:24:17 🧠 Nietzsche sees consciousness and spirit as symptoms of relative imperfection and unnecessary energy consumption. 01:29:43 🙏 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for its imaginary beliefs and its detachment from reality, seeing it as a source of suffering. 01:31:33 💔 Nietzsche views Jesus as someone who denied reality and increased suffering, ultimately representing weakness. 01:44:36 📖 Nietzsche discusses how the Old Testament God is complex, not a mindless psychopath, but often portrayed as provincial and conflicted in ancient times. 01:46:02 🕊 The Old Testament God's portrayal challenges modern Christian views of God as an omnipresent, all-knowing, and morally perfect being. 01:47:00 🔀 Nietzsche highlights the contrast between the Old Testament God and the New Testament God, noting the transformation of God from a national deity to a cosmopolitan, peace-loving figure. 01:49:23 🌟 Nietzsche emphasizes that the Old Testament God's duality of good and evil made God relatable to humanity, as it reflected human qualities and imperfections. 01:51:10 🏛 Nietzsche uses Jesus as an archetype of life denial, opposing the concept of Jesus as a hero, and instead portraying him as a symbol of weakness and decline. 01:58:37 ⚔ Nietzsche criticizes the idea of Jesus as a hero, emphasizing that Jesus' message is about resisting not evil and embracing an inner, non-confrontational spirituality. 02:03:48 📚 Nietzsche interprets Jesus as an imminentist, believing that salvation is within individuals at every moment, rather than a future event. 02:05:25 📜 Nietzsche's reading of Jesus in "The Antichrist" lacks the concept of guilt, punishment, and reward. It emphasizes the absence of aloofness between God and man, promoting an imminent approach to life. 02:07:03 🤔 Nietzsche's interpretation suggests that Jesus may have had a perception of an undivided reality, similar to Alan Watts' "cosmic consciousness," but he attributes Jesus' approach to an instinctual hatred of reality, leading to the rejection of the world and the creation of a different one. 02:09:24 🌍 Nietzsche views pity as nature's failed experiment, an impulse that stops the natural selection process. He suggests that eliminating pity could be a path to reevaluating values and improving our perspective on suffering. 02:17:13 🕊 Nietzsche argues that there has only ever been one true Christian, Jesus, and he died on the cross. He criticizes the later Christians for deviating from Jesus' indifference to the world and becoming obsessed with consciously held beliefs, contrasting it with the instinctual level of Jesus.
The first time that I read "The Anti-Christ", I thought Nietzsche was talking about Satan, Lucifer, the Devil, Beelzebub, etc. The second time that I read "The Anti-Christ", I thought Nietzche was talking about Hitler, Nazi's etc. It was only much later that I realized Nietzsche was talking about the Dionysian, Aristocracy, Nobility, Royalty, upper-class individuals, artists, poets, etc. Nietzsche thought that Christianity was based in pity and was the belief system of the common & lowly (i.e., the sick & the poor, the underclass).
Hitler and the Nazis are not synonymous with Satan Id expect someone who calls themselves “the Nietzschean” to have moved passed these petty moralistic and childish notions
For Nietzsche, the strong person is someone who doesn't act the way that they do out of a feeling of obligation, or vanity. You act the way that you do because you want to. For example(extreme example incoming), someone who has a great capacity for violence and brutality, but is merciful. That is power. And I also personally value this because, the mercy in this scenario is much more authentic and real.
That was an excellent point you made about how we can't be value neutral because that would mean our will to power couldn't find a way to express itself.
02:25:01 📚 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for infecting strong barbarians with its ideas, originating in the Middle East and eventually spreading to Europe. 02:28:17 🌍 Nietzsche laments the loss of European pagan cultures and the influence of Christianity in subjugating and smothering them. 02:35:08 💪 Nietzsche suggests that Christianity arose as a means for the underclass to gain power, harnessing the decadent aspects of Judaism for this purpose. 02:38:47 🤔 Nietzsche emphasizes the importance of skepticism and the challenges it poses to his own ideas and convictions. 02:42:05 🤯 Nietzsche questions whether there is a significant difference between lies and convictions, highlighting the contingent nature of beliefs. 02:44:08 🤔 Nietzsche values the end or goal of a lie and evaluates it based on what it aims to achieve. He distinguishes between lies that serve life enhancement and those that don't. 02:45:17 📜 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for the direction it pushes humanity rather than solely focusing on the fact that it involves lies. He sees the honesty of a lie as a more important factor. 02:45:46 🌟 Nietzsche emphasizes that what matters most is the direction that the will to power doctrine leads humanity, rather than whether it's an objective truth or his own conviction.
Most excellent podcast. If I had a thousand dollars to give I would gladly give it and feel cheap. Your erudition is commendable, your humility extraordinary. I hope to listen to this again, it was that understandable. I feel that I am just now beginning to understand the man and how excellent his views were. I have always seen my own ideas as far more extreme than his, but now I feel closer to him than before. In doing that you have rendered a great service,for which I am grateful. I am certain that many others appreciate your work perhaps more than I do. One of your phrases is memorable, something like 'philosophy should not attach itself to facts; it is speculative. That may be common knowledge, but it was a first for me, revealing and encouraging. I hope your podcasts will allow you to live in such a way that you won't have to do anything else. Thank you so much.
I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian Church the most terrible of all accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worse possible corruption. The Christian Church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul.
But did you not see the futility in emperical truth against the lie, see every value as a Christian regurgitation, see the phoney pulpit preaching against corruption a poisonous reminder of the age old suppression of the beast? Are you not indeed the gray matter, the mixing of Dionysus and his nemesis which seeks to reduce every one thing also to gray matter, pebbles on the beach clashing back and forth accepting the sway of external uncontrollable forces. Will your indignant cry for the Dionysian will to power not continually be resurrected as the justification for the ravages of externalities and the modern overflowing Kylix of addictions? In your rejection of truth you lied to yourself, that you could escape the crucified, but as you said yourself the beast is just a reaction to the crucified, a black hole where complex constructions go to die. If I am so concerned with my aesthetic extraction from the worldly, how am I here? But you must clean your kylix before you can drink the pure water again.
I've thought for some time that Nietzche's personal tragedy was being the son of a Lutheran pastor; he like many, myself included, smothered in the swaddling clouts of the Gospel, struggling to break free to Art. I think of Beckett, Henry Miller, Kerouac among others. That being said, this podcast has brought me closer to clarity as to the nature of all our Tragedies - personal and corporate.
Very interesting this turn to the practical question of a higher man. His attack on relativism might simultaneously be an attack on pragmatism as well. From here we are left with an anti-mimetic non utopian aesthetic. That is an Ideal that is embedded in the material: very Aristotelian. A compassion that elevates rather than a compassion that weakens: pity? "Aristotle, as every one knows, saw in pity a sickly and dangerous state of mind, the remedy for which was an occasional purgative: he regarded tragedy as that purgative. The instinct of life should prompt us to seek some means of with any such pathological and dangerous accumulation of pity as that appearing in Schopenhauer’s case (and also, alack, in that of our whole literary décadence, from St. Petersburg to Paris, from Tolstoi to Wagner), that it may burst and be discharged.... Nothing is more unhealthy, amid all our unhealthy modernism, than Christian pity. To be the doctors here, to be unmerciful here, to wield the knife here-all this is our business, all this is our sort of humanity, by this sign we are philosophers, we Hyperboreans!-" Our ideals circle around an undifferentiated egalitarian Last man: the Christos. The Mass Man with his well regulated "two minutes of hate." The alterity of the will may hold promise but it can't compare to the marriage of instinct and intelligence that the animals have - cows excluded.
2:13:00 if we can change the perspective on pity etc. Those are just added on to us so we can change it. Then how we can even look into ourselves and find ourselves? How to go down to basics of human nature? How do we come down to our mission and our bases in this world? So in this context, can we say, we can change everything about us and actually nothing is true. Even we say we deep down want joy, beauty, power and having a warlike spirit kind of statements are empty and useless, so we are just nothing, we can draw ourselves if we would like to. Then how will we choose to be who we are, what will be the baseline? Unless we just accept a core, an assumption? We have to accept something as core, maybe will to power as Nietzche did, or hatred of life as Jesus did. Aren't both are just perspectives? Ther wont be any diffirences them at the bottom level. It can come down to even to the point, where we just choose. Just a choice without any parameter or baseline. I couldn't solve this.
Excellent episode, too many great points were made here to summarise. Nietzsche was correct, European civilization needs to move beyond Christianity and reinvent itself if it wants to survive and thrive in a post modernity world
@@untimelyreflections I would like to listen to the rest of the series ^^ On a side note on bhudism, a lot of things got switched up during the eating states period. You get Confucius, Buddhism, Taoism, and mohism blending into each other. Confucius pretty much dislikes Taoist but have translated a lot of it (a book has this on Amazon: Taoist texts for 8$) A lot of Taoism bled into Zen Buddhism and Taoism really doesn’t resemble what it was before- so the history is a lot of bleed over and bleeding out of the ideas- Buddhism roughly is a rough translation by Christians to describe Buddhism where they saw it similar in the idea of icons and idols that their churches and cathedrals would have. Brad Warner in ‘don’t be a jerk’ kinda covers this to a degree. Keedo Moore wrote a few books such as hidden zen but I haven’t read it, he has a monestary in Wyoming and kinda does it off of center- instead of focusing on promoting the spread inside a culture he kinda has a different culture. Buddha said there isn’t a right way, such as a boat is good for water but poor on land. Emil Coiran in ANATHEMAS and ADMIRATIONS kinda covers this in his mention of language- ones nation and people are that communicate and share a bridge of language- which has been damaged severely in the last few years with stretching of definitions and so on… think how nihilism became ‘isn’t the culture’ meaning by American traditional religions; however their religion ‘can’t be nihilism’ to other groups… just word games like how some define corporatism but special interest groups- corporatism is roughly used to argue against or in favor of special interest groups.
@13:55, hyperboreans are nordics, as oppose to the southern european type. The greeks called the nordics the name hyperboreans. Nietszche is refering to the "blonde beast". He uses the term hyperborean literally and metaphorically. It is easy to extract a racialist element from Nietszche's writings. It is peppered through out. During Nietszche's time the Nordic type recognized itself, without guilt. It is only in the American age, that nordics were re-invented as descendants of greeks and romans as part of americas revolution/inversion of values. Hence average americans are culturally blinded to parts of Nietszches thought. As time progresses and more tax revenue is used, the more the american lie is more elaborated on. This is the outcome of Germans loosing ww2. At any rate, hyperboreans are the proto german savages the ancient greeks were deadly afraid of. The bible calls them gog and magog. They call themeselves goths. History remembers them as eastern goths (ostro goths), visigogs (western goths) , and a plethora of other names, and destroyed the western roman empire.
@@untimelyreflections You should upload more there! Also what happened to Nietzsche in the end? You looked into his life, was it sifilis? Mental illness?
@@apricus3155 Here is an article I wrote for the r/nietzsche wiki page which includes most of the evidence and what my opinion on Nietzsche's illness is: www.reddit.com/r/Nietzsche/comments/f7ivyn/frequently_asked_question_nietzsches_illness/
I just discovered it a week ago. I am on episode 14 and I am also currently re-listening, from the beginning, while taking notes and looking up references. So many effin dots have been connected. I am slowly starting to be able to actually read and understand Nietzsche. Cannot recommend it enough.
I am impressed that this podcaster has the gut to taking into Nietzsche’s philosophy, which is tantamount to having a duel with a beast! This man is a brilliant thinker! I hope he will eventuality reveal his name!
This is great data to be considered w.Christopher Jon Bjerknes’ discoveries about the revelation religions. We have come some distance. Then again who read Nietszche when he was alive?
Nothing of Nietzsche ever resonated with me. Maybe it's because I don't speak German. We went thru Hegel, Kierkegaard, Nietzche. These guys - whatever their message, I never quite understood why their ideas were so great. Godel, Russell, Frege, Cantor, Turing - these were the guys that blew me away
Does Nietzsche actually think Christianity promotes pity, or is he correcting the modern Christian's confusion of pity and mercy? ... because mercy is the point, not pity. Mercy internally recognizes the merit of strength or whatever quality is appropriate to the circumstance and also implies the deficiency of weakness. The point of mercy isn't to promote weakness, but rather to give the weak person a chance to become strong. A few months ago, i was criticizing Christians for misunderstanding Nietzsche, but now i might be criticizing Nietzsche for misunderstanding Christianity. If he truly mistakes Christian mercy for pity... Not the same.
Why a few? If a myth is obvious, it is useless. If a myth is too far, it is not reached. The few who are so capable. The life is not a choice between Dionysian or Christian, but while young, have a party and when old surrender everything. The few who are so capable.
1:44:05 this wasnt Abraham. This was a story of Lot. His wife was turned to pillar of salt because she looked back when she was told not to. So theres the psychopathic god that isnt forgiving within the same story.
Oh, and Lot then had sex with his daughters after his wife was turned to be a pillar of salt. The old testament is written by disgusting psychopathic people. You can see this continuous behavior in isreal if you know of the crimes of them
The story I was relating wasn't the story of Lot, but the story of Abraham arguing with God over how many innocent people would have to live there for him to show mercy to Sodom & Gomorrah. This happens in a passage just before the story of Lot.
@@dragonfishing I’ve never understood how or why philosophy wasn’t for the masses. Since the beginning of my thoughts I always questioned how or why I was thinking.
What about the miracles, the resurrection of Christ, the acts of the apostles, the continuity of the church, the revelations and prophecies...there is so many theological aspects that he left out...he argues only in term of filosoficaly and ideal perspective, but there s so much more to christianity that he leaves out..Nietzche is a great filozofer but he cant offer a solution to mankind not even close to christianity
@@untimelyreflections well, i understand what you are saying but, we cant know for sure if they are made up or not....i question myself alot, i read alot of good philosophers and teologians, this is a matter of life and death, the universal filosofical question is what is the purpose of life and so far, none of this great filosofers cand give a clear answear so in conclusion, everything is questionable...from Socrates, Plato , Aristotle etc. To kant, heideger, shopenhaur, kierkegaard, kafka, pascal etc. To the theological fathers of the church...we clearly search for an absolute answer, but to say that the purpose of life isnt transcendental and everyting that is life is here in this reality for me it is absurd and not at all embracing this reality, at least christianity offers meaning to life thru virtues, as mercy, sacrifice , and love ... Of course virtues that maybe today are laughable and stupid... Anyway i do listen , subscribed and like your videos...sorry for my bad english. Not englishman.
Lets us not forget.. Jesus came not for the hebrews but he came for the gentiles. Jesus came to convince the gentiles to lose the game of life. And YHWH taught the hebrews to eliminate all their enemies and win the game of life. As we are seeing today. Thus the purpose of all judaism, convince the hebrews to win the game of life no matter the cost. And inspire the gentiles to give their life to their enemies. Insidious.
That so many materialist scientist are nevertheless Platonist where math is concerned, really dtives home home how seductively beautiful math must be to those who are really good at it.
"The weak and botched shall perish! First principle of our charity..." This line has so much meaning is that it's almost profound. I give two interpretations: "The weak and botched shall perish" refers to what he sees as detrimental to mankind both in the political (or mental) sense and the physical sense. The politics of of his Aristocratic Radicalism only sees politics as a tool to achieve a new aristocracy based on Will-to-Power and opposes all ideologies that would hinder it, whether be Nationalism, Egalitarianism, Democracy, Socialism, Anarchism, et al. To him, all these ideas make man sick and weak, but they are useful to level man to where the Lords of the Earth have a base to stand on. The second is rather more direct and eugenic, killing the "weak and botched" in terms of culling the physically and mentally ill from reproducing or reducing them to actual slaves. But he doesn't even preserve himself. He is willing to even sacrifice himself for this to happen. The absolute madman.
00:01 📚 "The Antichrist" by Nietzsche is a complex work that goes beyond critiquing Christianity, incorporating various philosophical ideas.
01:00 🧬 Nietzsche identifies "The Antichrist" with Dionysus, representing violent passions, contrasting with Christian values.
03:46 ⚖ Nietzsche's fundamental opposition is Dionysus versus the Crucified, symbolizing Christian morality as anti-nature and anti-life.
08:10 📖 "The Antichrist" is part of Nietzsche's project for the revaluation of all values, challenging Christian values and seeking a new moral philosophy.
16:08 🤔 Nietzsche criticizes modernity for its relativism and lack of a firm moral stance, emphasizing the importance of committing to necessary fictions in values.
20:56 📜 Nietzsche argues against unquestioned moral values and faith, which were prevalent in religious systems, and advocates for a new direction in the age of relativism and cosmopolitanism.
23:03 💪 Nietzsche defines "good" as that which enhances the feeling of power and "bad" as that which proceeds from weakness, emphasizing the importance of power and strength in his moral framework.
27:30 🔄 Nietzsche contrasts the modern person's avoidance of suffering and conflict with the hyperborean's embrace of conflict and the war-like nature of life, highlighting the rejection of contentment and utopianism.
30:12 🧭 Nietzsche shifts from the idea of man as a bridge (in Zarathustra) to man as an end, focusing on enhancing human life in the present rather than striving for a utopian future.
33:24 🔄 Nietzsche challenges the concept of progress, suggesting that evolution doesn't necessarily lead to betterment, and he warns against projecting utopian ideals onto the future.
39:08 📉 Nietzsche introduces the concept of decadence, defining it as the loss of instincts and the preference for values detrimental to growth and power, highlighting its influence on contemporary values.
42:09 🌍 Sociologist John Glubb discusses the stages of empires, including expansion, commercial prosperity, luxury, intellectualism, and arts, followed by decline.
43:04 💰 During the age of affluence, wealth pours in, leading to luxurious living, art patronage, and architectural development.
43:47 🤑 In the age of affluence, the focus shifts from honor and duty to accumulating wealth, leading to a decline in militancy and moral justifications for not engaging in conflict.
44:28 🌐 At "high noon," the empire stops expanding, leading to factionalism, civil unrest, and eventual collapse, often at the hands of a new emerging empire.
45:08 🧠 Intellectualism replaces military readiness, and subsidies replace weapons as nations become less willing to engage in conflict.
46:06 🗺 Nietzsche and Glubb agree on the later stages of society or empire characterized by decline in strength, correlating culture to the loss of instinct.
49:36 🌸 Nietzsche sees higher ideals, morality, art, and education as products of decadence and decline in strength.
52:28 🤝 Pity, a central value in Christianity, is criticized by Nietzsche as it spreads suffering and makes life questionable, ultimately weakening society.
57:14 💪 Nietzsche's higher man is not a cruel sociopath but magnanimous, generous, and compassionate by nature, not driven by resentment.
01:02:53 🧐 Nietzsche condemns pity as a manifestation of weakness, leading to resentment and vindictiveness in society.
01:03:19 🤔 Nietzsche criticizes the separation of rational thought and philosophical education from life, which he sees as a production of corruption and decadence, causing a detachment from instincts.
01:04:57 😢 Nietzsche argues that the separation of the soul and abstract thought from the law of natural selection leads to the emergence of pity, which he considers a form of nihilism and a denial of life.
01:06:21 👎 Nietzsche views Schopenhauer as hostile to life due to his elevation of pity as a virtue, which ultimately negates life and promotes decadence.
01:09:23 🙏 Nietzsche criticizes theologians, such as Kant, for inverting values, making virtue impersonal, and reducing the world to mere appearances, contrasting this with his idea of a more embodied and personal approach to virtue.
01:15:52 🧪 Nietzsche values a scientific approach that includes the body, passions, culture, and perspective, emphasizing the importance of a science that is not detached from the material world.
01:23:07 🐾 Nietzsche advocates for a more modest perspective, placing humanity among the animals and valuing intellectuality as a result of craftiness. He rejects deriving man from the spirit and godhead.
Thank you
I totally get Nietzsche’s points throughout his work. Antichrist has many of them. But I personally found Antichrist to be tedious and repetitive, and Nietzsche’s style devolving during his final active years. You can only say “Christianity bad” so many times before it gets boring.
Once again, dear teacher, your student here. What an honor! Listening to your podcast and lectures, is an excellent exercise to honing and whetting my humble intelectual faculties.
I just want to say thank you for the very deep and thoughtful replies you’ve left on a handful of videos now. I have read all of them, and am always glad to meet a kindred spirit on the quest of philosophy! Cheers, my friend.
Oh you have to sin after they sin and christ says no you shouldn't have to.
I can't get enough of your lectures.
Thank you.
Nice analysis, this podcast has really helped me to get an entry level understanding of a philosopher whose ideas I had previously found impenetrable.
Power doesn't corrupt but weak individuals action corrupts when given power 🤐 Powerful
01:23:37 📜 Nietzsche criticizes how modern man has lost free will and willpower, reduced to mere reactions to stimuli.
01:24:17 🧠 Nietzsche sees consciousness and spirit as symptoms of relative imperfection and unnecessary energy consumption.
01:29:43 🙏 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for its imaginary beliefs and its detachment from reality, seeing it as a source of suffering.
01:31:33 💔 Nietzsche views Jesus as someone who denied reality and increased suffering, ultimately representing weakness.
01:44:36 📖 Nietzsche discusses how the Old Testament God is complex, not a mindless psychopath, but often portrayed as provincial and conflicted in ancient times.
01:46:02 🕊 The Old Testament God's portrayal challenges modern Christian views of God as an omnipresent, all-knowing, and morally perfect being.
01:47:00 🔀 Nietzsche highlights the contrast between the Old Testament God and the New Testament God, noting the transformation of God from a national deity to a cosmopolitan, peace-loving figure.
01:49:23 🌟 Nietzsche emphasizes that the Old Testament God's duality of good and evil made God relatable to humanity, as it reflected human qualities and imperfections.
01:51:10 🏛 Nietzsche uses Jesus as an archetype of life denial, opposing the concept of Jesus as a hero, and instead portraying him as a symbol of weakness and decline.
01:58:37 ⚔ Nietzsche criticizes the idea of Jesus as a hero, emphasizing that Jesus' message is about resisting not evil and embracing an inner, non-confrontational spirituality.
02:03:48 📚 Nietzsche interprets Jesus as an imminentist, believing that salvation is within individuals at every moment, rather than a future event.
02:05:25 📜 Nietzsche's reading of Jesus in "The Antichrist" lacks the concept of guilt, punishment, and reward. It emphasizes the absence of aloofness between God and man, promoting an imminent approach to life.
02:07:03 🤔 Nietzsche's interpretation suggests that Jesus may have had a perception of an undivided reality, similar to Alan Watts' "cosmic consciousness," but he attributes Jesus' approach to an instinctual hatred of reality, leading to the rejection of the world and the creation of a different one.
02:09:24 🌍 Nietzsche views pity as nature's failed experiment, an impulse that stops the natural selection process. He suggests that eliminating pity could be a path to reevaluating values and improving our perspective on suffering.
02:17:13 🕊 Nietzsche argues that there has only ever been one true Christian, Jesus, and he died on the cross. He criticizes the later Christians for deviating from Jesus' indifference to the world and becoming obsessed with consciously held beliefs, contrasting it with the instinctual level of Jesus.
The first time that I read "The Anti-Christ", I thought Nietzsche was talking about Satan, Lucifer, the Devil, Beelzebub, etc. The second time that I read "The Anti-Christ", I thought Nietzche was talking about Hitler, Nazi's etc. It was only much later that I realized Nietzsche was talking about the Dionysian, Aristocracy, Nobility, Royalty, upper-class individuals, artists, poets, etc. Nietzsche thought that Christianity was based in pity and was the belief system of the common & lowly (i.e., the sick & the poor, the underclass).
Anton LeVey founded "The Church of Satan" in 1966 based on the writings of Ayn Rand and Friedrich Nietzsche.
He was correct
Absolutely.
Is Harrison Ford a Nietzschean?
Hitler and the Nazis are not synonymous with Satan
Id expect someone who calls themselves “the Nietzschean” to have moved passed these petty moralistic and childish notions
Been reading Nietzche for over 25 years.. now I'm reading Cioran.. this is a great channel.. many thanks keep up the great work..
For Nietzsche, the strong person is someone who doesn't act the way that they do out of a feeling of obligation, or vanity. You act the way that you do because you want to. For example(extreme example incoming), someone who has a great capacity for violence and brutality, but is merciful. That is power. And I also personally value this because, the mercy in this scenario is much more authentic and real.
how close is pity to mercy?
Shut up. You're not as smart as you think
That was an excellent point you made about how we can't be value neutral because that would mean our will to power couldn't find a way to express itself.
02:25:01 📚 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for infecting strong barbarians with its ideas, originating in the Middle East and eventually spreading to Europe.
02:28:17 🌍 Nietzsche laments the loss of European pagan cultures and the influence of Christianity in subjugating and smothering them.
02:35:08 💪 Nietzsche suggests that Christianity arose as a means for the underclass to gain power, harnessing the decadent aspects of Judaism for this purpose.
02:38:47 🤔 Nietzsche emphasizes the importance of skepticism and the challenges it poses to his own ideas and convictions.
02:42:05 🤯 Nietzsche questions whether there is a significant difference between lies and convictions, highlighting the contingent nature of beliefs.
02:44:08 🤔 Nietzsche values the end or goal of a lie and evaluates it based on what it aims to achieve. He distinguishes between lies that serve life enhancement and those that don't.
02:45:17 📜 Nietzsche criticizes Christianity for the direction it pushes humanity rather than solely focusing on the fact that it involves lies. He sees the honesty of a lie as a more important factor.
02:45:46 🌟 Nietzsche emphasizes that what matters most is the direction that the will to power doctrine leads humanity, rather than whether it's an objective truth or his own conviction.
Most excellent podcast. If I had a thousand dollars to
give I would gladly give it and feel cheap. Your erudition is commendable, your humility extraordinary. I hope to listen to this again, it was that understandable. I feel that I am just now beginning to understand the man and how excellent his views were. I have always seen my own ideas as far more extreme than his, but now I feel closer to him than before. In doing that you have rendered a great service,for which I am grateful. I am certain that many others appreciate your work perhaps more than I do. One of your phrases is memorable, something like 'philosophy should not attach itself to facts; it is speculative. That may be common knowledge, but it was a first for me, revealing and encouraging. I hope your podcasts will allow you to live in such a way that you won't have to do anything else. Thank you so much.
I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian Church the most terrible of all accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worse possible corruption. The Christian Church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul.
But did you not see the futility in emperical truth against the lie, see every value as a Christian regurgitation, see the phoney pulpit preaching against corruption a poisonous reminder of the age old suppression of the beast? Are you not indeed the gray matter, the mixing of Dionysus and his nemesis which seeks to reduce every one thing also to gray matter, pebbles on the beach clashing back and forth accepting the sway of external uncontrollable forces. Will your indignant cry for the Dionysian will to power not continually be resurrected as the justification for the ravages of externalities and the modern overflowing Kylix of addictions? In your rejection of truth you lied to yourself, that you could escape the crucified, but as you said yourself the beast is just a reaction to the crucified, a black hole where complex constructions go to die. If I am so concerned with my aesthetic extraction from the worldly, how am I here? But you must clean your kylix before you can drink the pure water again.
I've thought for some time that Nietzche's personal tragedy was being the son of a Lutheran pastor; he like many, myself included, smothered in the swaddling clouts of the Gospel, struggling to break free to Art. I think of Beckett, Henry Miller, Kerouac among others. That being said, this podcast has brought me closer to clarity as to the nature of all our Tragedies - personal and corporate.
I love all your lectures. Keep them coming.
Very interesting this turn to the practical question of a higher man. His attack on relativism might simultaneously be an attack on pragmatism as well. From here we are left with an anti-mimetic non utopian aesthetic. That is an Ideal that is embedded in the material: very Aristotelian. A compassion that elevates rather than a compassion that weakens: pity? "Aristotle, as every one knows, saw in pity a sickly and dangerous state of mind, the remedy for which was an occasional purgative: he regarded tragedy as that purgative. The instinct of life should prompt us to seek some means of with any such pathological and dangerous accumulation of pity as that appearing in Schopenhauer’s case (and also, alack, in that of our whole literary décadence, from St. Petersburg to Paris, from Tolstoi to Wagner), that it may burst and be discharged.... Nothing is more unhealthy, amid all our unhealthy modernism, than Christian pity. To be the doctors here, to be unmerciful here, to wield the knife here-all this is our business, all this is our sort of humanity, by this sign we are philosophers, we Hyperboreans!-" Our ideals circle around an undifferentiated egalitarian Last man: the Christos. The Mass Man with his well regulated "two minutes of hate." The alterity of the will may hold promise but it can't compare to the marriage of instinct and intelligence that the animals have - cows excluded.
Good essay! I'll see more of the channel
2:13:00 if we can change the perspective on pity etc. Those are just added on to us so we can change it. Then how we can even look into ourselves and find ourselves? How to go down to basics of human nature? How do we come down to our mission and our bases in this world? So in this context, can we say, we can change everything about us and actually nothing is true. Even we say we deep down want joy, beauty, power and having a warlike spirit kind of statements are empty and useless, so we are just nothing, we can draw ourselves if we would like to. Then how will we choose to be who we are, what will be the baseline? Unless we just accept a core, an assumption? We have to accept something as core, maybe will to power as Nietzche did, or hatred of life as Jesus did. Aren't both are just perspectives? Ther wont be any diffirences them at the bottom level. It can come down to even to the point, where we just choose. Just a choice without any parameter or baseline. I couldn't solve this.
Magnificent, as usual.
Very helpful and interesting. Thank you.
Great job
Excellent episode, too many great points were made here to summarise. Nietzsche was correct, European civilization needs to move beyond Christianity and reinvent itself if it wants to survive and thrive in a post modernity world
Where can I see episode 6 of the podcast?
Is it by another name?
It’s not on youtube, it’s only twenty minutes long, an adaptation of me reading a Medium article
@@untimelyreflections I would like to listen to the rest of the series ^^
On a side note on bhudism, a lot of things got switched up during the eating states period.
You get Confucius, Buddhism, Taoism, and mohism blending into each other.
Confucius pretty much dislikes Taoist but have translated a lot of it (a book has this on Amazon: Taoist texts for 8$)
A lot of Taoism bled into Zen Buddhism and Taoism really doesn’t resemble what it was before- so the history is a lot of bleed over and bleeding out of the ideas- Buddhism roughly is a rough translation by Christians to describe Buddhism where they saw it similar in the idea of icons and idols that their churches and cathedrals would have.
Brad Warner in ‘don’t be a jerk’ kinda covers this to a degree.
Keedo Moore wrote a few books such as hidden zen but I haven’t read it, he has a monestary in Wyoming and kinda does it off of center- instead of focusing on promoting the spread inside a culture he kinda has a different culture. Buddha said there isn’t a right way, such as a boat is good for water but poor on land.
Emil Coiran in ANATHEMAS
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ADMIRATIONS kinda covers this in his mention of language- ones nation and people are that communicate and share a bridge of language- which has been damaged severely in the last few years with stretching of definitions and so on… think how nihilism became ‘isn’t the culture’ meaning by American traditional religions; however their religion ‘can’t be nihilism’ to other groups… just word games like how some define corporatism but special interest groups- corporatism is roughly used to argue against or in favor of special interest groups.
@@untimelyreflections just read the article and found the podcast.
Love it! :)
2:48:30 happy Yule!
Started reading it, but someone spoilt the ending for me. wtf man...
@13:55, hyperboreans are nordics, as oppose to the southern european type. The greeks called the nordics the name hyperboreans. Nietszche is refering to the "blonde beast". He uses the term hyperborean literally and metaphorically. It is easy to extract a racialist element from Nietszche's writings. It is peppered through out. During Nietszche's time the Nordic type recognized itself, without guilt. It is only in the American age, that nordics were re-invented as descendants of greeks and romans as part of americas revolution/inversion of values. Hence average americans are culturally blinded to parts of Nietszches thought. As time progresses and more tax revenue is used, the more the american lie is more elaborated on. This is the outcome of Germans loosing ww2. At any rate, hyperboreans are the proto german savages the ancient greeks were deadly afraid of. The bible calls them gog and magog. They call themeselves goths. History remembers them as eastern goths (ostro goths), visigogs (western goths) , and a plethora of other names, and destroyed the western roman empire.
You have a podcast The Nietzsche Podcast?
That’s the name of the podcast, yes.
@@untimelyreflections You should upload more there! Also what happened to Nietzsche in the end? You looked into his life, was it sifilis? Mental illness?
@@apricus3155 Here is an article I wrote for the r/nietzsche wiki page which includes most of the evidence and what my opinion on Nietzsche's illness is: www.reddit.com/r/Nietzsche/comments/f7ivyn/frequently_asked_question_nietzsches_illness/
I just discovered it a week ago. I am on episode 14 and I am also currently re-listening, from the beginning, while taking notes and looking up references. So many effin dots have been connected. I am slowly starting to be able to actually read and understand Nietzsche. Cannot recommend it enough.
I am impressed that this podcaster has the gut to taking into Nietzsche’s philosophy, which is tantamount to having a duel with a beast!
This man is a brilliant thinker! I hope he will eventuality reveal his name!
good channel.
This is great data to be considered w.Christopher Jon Bjerknes’ discoveries about the revelation religions. We have come some distance. Then again who read Nietszche when he was alive?
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When I was younger I used to enjoy reading Nietzsche. Ten years on I now much prefer Schopenhauer.
Your intake on why Schopenhauer's insights are more valid than Nietzche will be highly appreciated
Nothing of Nietzsche ever resonated with me. Maybe it's because I don't speak German. We went thru Hegel, Kierkegaard, Nietzche. These guys - whatever their message, I never quite understood why their ideas were so great.
Godel, Russell, Frege, Cantor, Turing - these were the guys that blew me away
jaded by life I see
So what did you understand of the others ? Can you message their second names thanx
Does Nietzsche actually think Christianity promotes pity, or is he correcting the modern Christian's confusion of pity and mercy?
... because mercy is the point, not pity. Mercy internally recognizes the merit of strength or whatever quality is appropriate to the circumstance and also implies the deficiency of weakness. The point of mercy isn't to promote weakness, but rather to give the weak person a chance to become strong.
A few months ago, i was criticizing Christians for misunderstanding Nietzsche, but now i might be criticizing Nietzsche for misunderstanding Christianity. If he truly mistakes Christian mercy for pity... Not the same.
Is it true that needs work is satire
Why a few? If a myth is obvious, it is useless. If a myth is too far, it is not reached. The few who are so capable. The life is not a choice between Dionysian or Christian, but while young, have a party and when old surrender everything. The few who are so capable.
1:44:05 this wasnt Abraham. This was a story of Lot. His wife was turned to pillar of salt because she looked back when she was told not to. So theres the psychopathic god that isnt forgiving within the same story.
Oh, and Lot then had sex with his daughters after his wife was turned to be a pillar of salt. The old testament is written by disgusting psychopathic people. You can see this continuous behavior in isreal if you know of the crimes of them
The story I was relating wasn't the story of Lot, but the story of Abraham arguing with God over how many innocent people would have to live there for him to show mercy to Sodom & Gomorrah. This happens in a passage just before the story of Lot.
How only 3,000 subs
Philosophy isn't for the masses, especially nietzche.
@@dragonfishing I’ve never understood how or why philosophy wasn’t for the masses. Since the beginning of my thoughts I always questioned how or why I was thinking.
Funny thing about the Hyperboreans, they are picts and Scots from way back in the day when they painted their skin blue
Fascinating how the Bacchae seems to suggest Jesus and dionysis. And christ is like Socrates in martyrdom
I will reveal a secret of the mystery schools. Death and Rebirth is sybolic of a sacred journey into the astral plane and has no actual death involved
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What about the miracles, the resurrection of Christ, the acts of the apostles, the continuity of the church, the revelations and prophecies...there is so many theological aspects that he left out...he argues only in term of filosoficaly and ideal perspective, but there s so much more to christianity that he leaves out..Nietzche is a great filozofer but he cant offer a solution to mankind not even close to christianity
"What about all of these stories that we made up???"
@@untimelyreflections well, i understand what you are saying but, we cant know for sure if they are made up or not....i question myself alot, i read alot of good philosophers and teologians, this is a matter of life and death, the universal filosofical question is what is the purpose of life and so far, none of this great filosofers cand give a clear answear so in conclusion, everything is questionable...from Socrates, Plato , Aristotle etc. To kant, heideger, shopenhaur, kierkegaard, kafka, pascal etc. To the theological fathers of the church...we clearly search for an absolute answer, but to say that the purpose of life isnt transcendental and everyting that is life is here in this reality for me it is absurd and not at all embracing this reality, at least christianity offers meaning to life thru virtues, as mercy, sacrifice , and love ... Of course virtues that maybe today are laughable and stupid... Anyway i do listen , subscribed and like your videos...sorry for my bad english. Not englishman.
Lets us not forget.. Jesus came not for the hebrews but he came for the gentiles. Jesus came to convince the gentiles to lose the game of life. And YHWH taught the hebrews to eliminate all their enemies and win the game of life. As we are seeing today. Thus the purpose of all judaism, convince the hebrews to win the game of life no matter the cost. And inspire the gentiles to give their life to their enemies. Insidious.
Perhaps what Jesus said is more accurate than what Nietzsche said. It appears Nietzsche only read the "Sermon on the Mount" to form his opinions.
That so many materialist scientist are nevertheless Platonist where math is concerned, really dtives home home how seductively beautiful math must be to those who are really good at it.
"The weak and botched shall perish! First principle of our charity..."
This line has so much meaning is that it's almost profound. I give two interpretations: "The weak and botched shall perish" refers to what he sees as detrimental to mankind both in the political (or mental) sense and the physical sense.
The politics of of his Aristocratic Radicalism only sees politics as a tool to achieve a new aristocracy based on Will-to-Power and opposes all ideologies that would hinder it, whether be Nationalism, Egalitarianism, Democracy, Socialism, Anarchism, et al. To him, all these ideas make man sick and weak, but they are useful to level man to where the Lords of the Earth have a base to stand on.
The second is rather more direct and eugenic, killing the "weak and botched" in terms of culling the physically and mentally ill from reproducing or reducing them to actual slaves. But he doesn't even preserve himself. He is willing to even sacrifice himself for this to happen. The absolute madman.
Nietzsche was very mistaken
Ok lok
So are you.
We shouldn't worry about the anti christ Jesus is coming back
In yr dreams
Obviously Mr. Nietzsche missed the part about Jesus casting every one who did not adhere to Jesus's teachings INTO ETERNAL HELL FIRE and DAMNATION.