Here are the chapters (for whatever reason, they don't seem to consistently work on the channel): 00:21 On the Sufferings of the World 33:58 On the Vanity of Existence 46:44 On Suicide 1:00:55 Immortality: a Dialogue 1:12:10 Psychological Observations 2:04:43 On Education 2:23:10 Of Women 2:59:35 On Noise 3:12:14 A Few Parables
My biggest rude awakening, this book has REAL Logical perspective and reasoning. As a black male growing up with my mother, no father. I was quite rebellious. But not because of insubordination. Because it simply felt uncomfortable. This book is definitely needed for me in particular. It answers alot. I simply can't read it only once. This book has to be revised for the rest of my life.
It appears you agree with the misogynistic views of the author. Once again allowing a white man, who had even more disdain for you than he even had for women, to tell you how to think. Take what you can use from this book, but as a black man, don’t be deluded into believing it’s taking about you.
A lot of these lines made me involuntary laugh. There's relief in confronting Suffering without the obligatory "silver lining" arguments people usually reach for.
This book shall be the consolation of my life and the consolation of my death. Thank you schopenhauer for speaking directly to me. You and karl popper have taught me so much.
An exceptional reading, thank you. I read Spinoza, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Spengler, and Wittgenstein for the same reason: for sober minded philosophy, which doesn’t shy away from the bitterness of life, and the difficulty of thinking. Their work is a remedy to the ailments of life.
@@elia8544 An lol kind of guy is not the elaborate type. We have to at least philosophize to draw any conclusions about the value of life-even if it be the inherit meaningless of existence, or the lack of free will. When I say remedy, I don’t mean an opiate.
You either become strong enough to rise to the occasion or die like scum for letting down the culture that gave birth to you. Philosophizing on the "meaninglessness" of existence is a cop out. Calling life itself meaningless is a cop out.
It isn't such human stuff that an exacting High Culture can use to further its Destiny. The common man is the material with which great political leaders work. In earlier centuries, the common man did not attend the Cultural drama. It didn't interest him, and the participants were not yet under the Rationalistic spell, the “counting-mania,” as Nietzsche called it. When democratic conditions proceed to their extreme, the result is that even the leaders are common men, with the jealous and crooked soul of envy of that to which they are not equal, like Roosevelt and his coterie in America. In his cult of “The Common Man,” he was deifying himself, like Caligula. The abolition of quality smothers the exceptional man in his youth and turns him into a cynic.
I'm familiar with Schopenhauer, but I've never read this. I can tell right away that it is an instant favorite. Such a beautiful prose style, and so many bitter yet true insights. I feel like looking all this in the face is necessary on the path to enlightenment (the ways that the Buddha started with "life is suffering"). None looked suffering in the face so completely as this.
I listened to this every Sunday or whenever I'm feeling down, it always makes me feel better. Better because I can entirely relate. Life is essentially bullshit and every where you go poeple lie to you. They lie to themselves and live within a psychosis. Schopenhauer is cathartic even in pessimism. It so refreshing and freeing to hear honesty. Imagine a world where the nature of existence was accepted as suffering. Then no one would have anything better to do than to work towards minimalizing it. Except that's what we all do individually and society likes to pretend that it doesn't only seek pleasure by punishing those who opening do. Poeple like to think we were blessed to exist, that the earth was made for us but I would argue against that and it is easily provable. Step onto your front lawn and absorb how everything tries to eat you immediately. That is the nature of existence.
I do understand what you mean, nature is a pretty brutal game. A game that existence is playing with Itself. But there really is no winner or loser at the end, just existence.. should read a bit of philosophical daoism. Interesting stuff.
@@cloudfloat4179 I agree with you there. If you think of yourself as separate from nature, then yeah like is hard and things try to eat you. But there is also the though that we are the thing eating
Yes, if I understood you correctly. Every individual, that being the lion or the gazelle, has the feeling of being an individual "i", though not as sophisticated as humans self awareness but this "i" is the Self, existence it Self if you will. Of course every one thing or individual is different through different types of DNA, experience, patterns of vibration etc.. but let's say vibration itself of on and off is existence. I hope you understand what I mean... 😆 🤣 😆 🤣
@@cloudfloat4179 This is what puzzles me. I resonated with your second sentence; A game that existence is playing with itself. Everything is made out of the elements. Then they 'decided' to form and differentiate into other forms. Some became sentient others not. The sentient ones thrive on eating, fucking and killing each other and exploiting/manipulating the inanimate for the same purpose. I cannot for the life of me figure why. It seems it's a game made to get rid of boredom. The game absolutely sucks!!!!
Much like Spinoza, whose Ethics seem inaccessible to so many first time readers-later, people often realize that Spinoza’s soft-determinism is actually consoling because of its accuracy.
Here to pay my respects. This audio is what got me into Schopenhauer. The narrator’s voice is like a narcotic, and Schopenhauer’s writing is so immediate that it resonated with me instantly. It’s way more comforting than I ever would have expected. His pessimism, as opposed to striking me as bleak and depressing, struck me as profound, consoling and freeing. Thank you, D.E. Wittkower for bringing Schopenhauer to life for me. And thank you, Philosophy Overdose, for uploading it to UA-cam. (Fitting name, by the way!)
Same for me, although it was surely another video which this a clone of since it was almost 8 years ago. Completely changed my life. I can barely put it into words and this is an experience common among many people, both common and uncommon, that came across this guy. We all felt as if hit by a train. As if God came down and explained to mere mortals in otherworldly clarity the workings of his world. It feels as if it's wrong for a human to understand this much. Unholy, alien, forbidden knowledge. I'm an absolute physicalist, these are just figures of speech. ..Sokrates and Plato, Kant and Shopenhauer, they are the most original funmakers of the universe. The others are just chewing on them. Or try to. I have PudelMan`s:"The world as will and imagination" for 12 years now. Never got beyond page 100, though i made 3 attempts. This book scares me. Really. Too much truth at once, such density, it definitely lessens the common ground you are standing on with "the others". And at such speed, that you have barely the time to adjust your feet. A Bukowskian poem of a Bukowskian fan I found on the internet. Schopenhauer's works are exemplary of the saying "what has been seen cannot be unseen". Utter revelation and disillusionment. Like Adam an Eve biting from the Tree of Knowledge.
Schopenhauer doesnt seem like a pessimist rather an objective observer if the reality he's experiencing. I find his work to be hilarious, deep, insightful, and encouraging. When I'm reading schopenhauer it's like I've met a brother, a kindred spirit that speaks to my soul.
Something else can change your life: Getting the crap beaten out of you by a MMA fighter, minus the injuries. Hands down the most uplifting experience I've ever had in my life.
@@nativeamericancowboy5028 Curious, did the MMA beatdown experience expand or deplete the masculine ego? Or, perhaps, _refine_ it? (I'm assuming it's about ego, but maybe that's not what changed in your case)
@@No_Avail it subdues the ego. It mellows and relaxes the ego. You tend to desire things a lot less. It puts you in a state of mine that everything is fine just the way it is, and no changes are necessary.
This book is only as dark as you allow it to be. Once one understands how to properly see through Schopenhauer's lense of pessimism, you realize that the concepts discussed are an enlightened take on life. Enlightening because these are fundamental and deeply freeing concepts. Coming from a religious background, this blasphemy turns into a renaissance of reality. This may seem pitch black, especially the first three chapters, but as long as you don't contrast your life with the points being made, and allow yourself to look at them objectively, the shade of darkness will lighten. As long as you have the mental fortitude to think about these concepts in regards to life in general, I believe this is fundamentally one of the most enlightening philosophical lenses.
@@ldshasnobrain idk, it would be nice to free oneself from the suffering of life, from the anxiety of existence. In a way the acknowledgment of nihilism, nothing has any meaning or value and the belief in nothing frees you mentally. If we are to die in the end, if all of our efforts, all of our sacrifices, all of our suffering in the present moment are essentially pointless and meaningless. Then as the observer and experiencer of the present moment, why should I shackle myself to a dilution of meaning that will only increase the amount of suffering I experience. Why not affirm life’s meaningless? At least I hope that in practice nihilism can lead to mental or psychological freedom. I would hate for the meaning I gave to life to make life seem so serious that it becomes a misery worse than death. Also, the understanding that nothing matters, that death will eventually come for us, although it is sad, it is a part of life and when I have anxiety or life seems unbearable that thought is comforting and freeing. I’m not sure if I explained it well tbh I am still thinking about this, but it would be nice to be mentally free through nihilism, and then you would be able to strive for something in life without it feeling too serious and causing suffering.
I'm a fan of Schopenhauer. Primarily, his elaboration of Consciousness and perception, Will and representation. This section here reminds me of the Buddha, "life is suffering".
At 1:01, the translator tries to justify replacing the original "Unzerstörbarkeit" (indestructibility) with Unsterblichkeit (immortality) in death because the latter is easier to understand, but 1) the former makes sense because once you're dead you can't be destroyed (indestructible) but the latter doesn't because once you're dead you've died and thus are not immortal 2) immortality would be a nightmare to somebody like S. who adopts the Buddhist view that all life is suffering and 3) in the realm of philosophy, being easily understandable is the same thing as banal/cliché because a revelation is necessarily entirely new, at least to Western culture, although it may already have been known to a small minority of Buddhist/Hindu sages.
After reading these comments I'm convinced 90% of you cherry picked specific chapters and barely made it through them. Look up the definition of pessimism and understand what these writings are describing. Even if you don't agree with something that doesn't mean it's not worth consideration. Chew on the ideas that you disagree with most and figure out why you dislike them.
After reading your comment I'm convinced 90% of your blah blah blah. Oxford does not define the meaning of words, they are defined in their context of being used 99% of the time. Just as you fight their opinions, they fight Arthur's, what is the difference? What is the point? You will either learn or be deluded and so will they. Nothing is new.
This book is only as dark as you allow it to be. This may seem pitch black, especially the first three chapters, but as long as you don't contrast your life with the points being made, and allow yourself to look at them objectively, the shade of darkness will lighten. As long as you have the mental fortitude to think about these concepts in regards to life in general, I believe this is fundamentally one of the most enlightening philosophical lenses.
Thank you for uploading this you are saving me a trip to the library and if you’re motivated please put more Arthur Schopenhauer philosophy on here too.
Solomon Ecclesiastes rang out to me as some of the first nihilism writings. I have sought after knowledge and madness, And with much knowledge comes much suffering
He was actually found of women, good food, wine, going to the theater and opera, and he never had to work a day for his living, because he inherited his rich father at the age of 21, but as he was an honest man, so he wrote the truth about life in general nevertheless.
As Arthur explains, no woman excels in philosophical matters. (Not art, not science) Just think about it and you'll realize that it is indeed true. That said, it is understandable that you may find it difficult to understand reality from a point of view that you are not prepared to understand. Woman in general only follow their emotions, and lack the capacity for extreme objectivity, because it is uncomfortable for their feelings.
Well put and beautifully said , unfortunately we men have fallen so far that are blinded to the consequences of men who lead us into this current mess that we live in.
46:44 the strongest argument against suicide is the claim that a person's life and being are not solely his own property, rather, he "belongs" to society, especially to the persons closest to him, who are attached to him. A person's identity or being may be viewed as a node in the social web in which he is located, and when he commits suicide, he tears a hole in the web in which everyone, specifically around him, abstractly -- universally, are existing. I dont suggest this as a con or pro, this I leave each of us to decide for themselves. However I am adding it to the here suggested argument that man is his own "property" in the widest and metaphorical sense. Anyone who has lost especially a close relative or friend to suicide, will most probably agree with me, that the act creates a ripple in the common and private worlds which persists so to say, forever.
But if the suicide has a level of suffering that is debilitating he/she has a right to end their own life... damn, the societal and/or family good. Believe you me, in reality, people move on fast & the passing is barely a blip. To the suicide's close one's...maybe not...but they are the only ones who know the ending was too end thier pain & not hurt the living
My best friend since ninth grade committed suicide by overdose of heroin. I’m 47 so very long friendship. I disagree with your assessment. He was in a very dark place about to go on a killing spree. Granted he was going to kill the pedophile that raped his niece/my daughter when she was 8 along with the guy who raped his daughter and got off in court. There would have been innocents killed as well. He lived in agonizing pain from the injuries he acquired through life. He was a shadow of himself compared to who he was as a young man. Three people were devastated from his death (including myself) but it was our own selfishness of not wanting to be the last man standing. He sent black tar heroin to our friends in seven states and everyone except me are all deceased. These were friends from school. It’s hard to live with yourself knowing you played a large roll in killing your friends. Many more would be dead had he not taken himself out. Imagine if every school shooter had just killed themselves instead of shooting up a school. Or serial killers offed themselves, how could this be a bad thing. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
Yes! It’s back, I was hung up at around 1:40 hours then your channel got deleted, thanks so much :) Btw, do you have anything of Deleuze by chance? Would be great!
Anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of 19th century sexism, and its foundational absurdity, would benefit from reading Schopenhauer. We men were deluded beyond comprehension, and it’s no wonder that even today in the postmodern world women still struggle for equal rights.
The direct and immediate refutation of pessimism is the continuous desire for life itself ! Few willingly choose death over more life, and this is true even among those whom suffer the most -- the life-long imprisoned, the permanently disabled, the terminally ill, the sick and tired elderly, etc.. The overwhelming majority affirm the value of life, as does the pessimist himself, although unwittingly, so long as he does not immediately commit suicide and continues to live.
@@mikemo2168 Clearly you have an inability to comprehend what you read because I wrote 'few willingly choose death over more life...'. Anyway, people who commit suicide don't hate life as much as they hate themselves.
@@mikemo2168 The real coward is the one who cries 'life is too hard'. Really ? But there you are still alive ! See, that's the proof, you rather cry and feel something, than to die and feel nothing at all. Every breath you take affirms life, and proves that you still give a damn yourself. Why would anyone emotionally invest (aka, give a damn) about someone who might commit suicide ? If you don't love yourself, then don't expect anyone to care about you. If you are not willing to care about yourself, why do you expect others to care what happens to you ? Are you really expecting people to feel sorry for you, when you don't even have the self-care to love yourself ? Life can be hard, yet most people are strong and courageous enough to go on living and find joy in it. A few weak people who don't even have the self-care to love themselves expect others to feel sorry for them. Life requires self-care, self-love, love of life, and the strength and courage to daily face adversity. You can cry all you want, but life will go on, and most people will continue to find real joy and happiness in just being alive. If you kill yourself because you hate life, then life still wins because your hatred was itself part of your life ! You have the chance to love yourself.. are you worth it ? If your answer is 'no', then why should anyone disagree with you ?
Here are the chapters (for whatever reason, they don't seem to consistently work on the channel):
00:21 On the Sufferings of the World
33:58 On the Vanity of Existence
46:44 On Suicide
1:00:55 Immortality: a Dialogue
1:12:10 Psychological Observations
2:04:43 On Education
2:23:10 Of Women
2:59:35 On Noise
3:12:14 A Few Parables
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Dude is top shelf!
@Chlem Elisha haha
Mine too
Ahhh. A perfect bedtime story to drag my consciousness underground after another 12 hour amazon shift.
Amazon shifts are no joke
@@precisi0n86 Phones/music/headphones aren't allowed on the floor :/
I hope you find a better job. Warehouse work suffocates the soul
I should be starting at Amazon soon.
Phew twelve hours, that's a stint, just finished a 8 hour at the recycling plant, yuk
He GETS it.
it's both funny and sad that majority of this still holds true, he did get it.
@@Anon-tt9rzIn the beginning when man became aware,he looked at the stairs,and stumbled over ruins..
My biggest rude awakening, this book has REAL Logical perspective and reasoning. As a black male growing up with my mother, no father. I was quite rebellious. But not because of insubordination. Because it simply felt uncomfortable. This book is definitely needed for me in particular. It answers alot. I simply can't read it only once. This book has to be revised for the rest of my life.
Consider also, he lived in the 1700s.
Makes me think that suffering that boys and men go through is common, and has been common, for a long time.
It appears you agree with the misogynistic views of the author. Once again allowing a white man, who had even more disdain for you than he even had for women, to tell you how to think. Take what you can use from this book, but as a black man, don’t be deluded into believing it’s taking about you.
A lot of these lines made me involuntary laugh. There's relief in confronting Suffering without the obligatory "silver lining" arguments people usually reach for.
Same. It's because it's absurd.
I believe because it's absurd
Yes. It’s actually more fun when you remember there’s ultimately no point to any of this
i love pessimist literature because the honesty is so comforting, its so much sadder to hear someone pretend the world is actually so happy
I love this book. It's not often that one can find bitterness comforting. But Shopie finds a way to pull it off.
What do you find comforting? It honestly sounds like a man desperate to intellectualize his depression and misanthropy
This book shall be the consolation of my life and the consolation of my death. Thank you schopenhauer for speaking directly to me. You and karl popper have taught me so much.
Please don't call him shopie...
@@juanpablomontalvo4715 hope is a disorder that makes us struggle for longer than we need to, and this man gets it.
@@juanpablomontalvo4715 You say that as if depression and misanthropy are somehow undeserving of contemplation and articulation.
An exceptional reading, thank you.
I read Spinoza, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Spengler, and Wittgenstein for the same reason: for sober minded philosophy, which doesn’t shy away from the bitterness of life, and the difficulty of thinking. Their work is a remedy to the ailments of life.
Lol. There's no remedy at all.
@@ConcreteJungleSickness care to elaborate
@@elia8544 An lol kind of guy is not the elaborate type. We have to at least philosophize to draw any conclusions about the value of life-even if it be the inherit meaningless of existence, or the lack of free will. When I say remedy, I don’t mean an opiate.
You either become strong enough to rise to the occasion or die like scum for letting down the culture that gave birth to you. Philosophizing on the "meaninglessness" of existence is a cop out. Calling life itself meaningless is a cop out.
It isn't such human stuff that an exacting High Culture can use to further its Destiny. The common man is the material with which great political leaders work. In earlier centuries, the common man did not attend the Cultural drama. It didn't interest him, and the participants were not yet under the Rationalistic spell, the “counting-mania,” as Nietzsche called it. When democratic conditions proceed to their extreme, the result is that even the leaders are common men, with the jealous and crooked soul of envy of that to which they are not equal, like Roosevelt and his coterie in America. In his cult of “The Common Man,” he was deifying himself, like Caligula. The abolition of quality smothers the exceptional man in his youth and turns him into a cynic.
This reader is amazing. I listen to this one frequently, often as background and he really makes mediocre readers stand out.
That's very true i agree.
I'm familiar with Schopenhauer, but I've never read this. I can tell right away that it is an instant favorite. Such a beautiful prose style, and so many bitter yet true insights. I feel like looking all this in the face is necessary on the path to enlightenment (the ways that the Buddha started with "life is suffering"). None looked suffering in the face so completely as this.
There is no enlightenment. Sorry.
There are many paths to enlightenment. It is a personal journey unique to you.
@@gointomexico But ones that do not suffer do not become enlightened...so is it...
I listened to this every Sunday or whenever I'm feeling down, it always makes me feel better. Better because I can entirely relate. Life is essentially bullshit and every where you go poeple lie to you. They lie to themselves and live within a psychosis. Schopenhauer is cathartic even in pessimism. It so refreshing and freeing to hear honesty.
Imagine a world where the nature of existence was accepted as suffering. Then no one would have anything better to do than to work towards minimalizing it. Except that's what we all do individually and society likes to pretend that it doesn't only seek pleasure by punishing those who opening do.
Poeple like to think we were blessed to exist, that the earth was made for us but I would argue against that and it is easily provable. Step onto your front lawn and absorb how everything tries to eat you immediately. That is the nature of existence.
I do understand what you mean, nature is a pretty brutal game. A game that existence is playing with Itself. But there really is no winner or loser at the end, just existence.. should read a bit of philosophical daoism. Interesting stuff.
@@cloudfloat4179 I agree with you there. If you think of yourself as separate from nature, then yeah like is hard and things try to eat you. But there is also the though that we are the thing eating
Yes, if I understood you correctly. Every individual, that being the lion or the gazelle, has the feeling of being an individual "i", though not as sophisticated as humans self awareness but this "i" is the Self, existence it Self if you will. Of course every one thing or individual is different through different types of DNA, experience, patterns of vibration etc.. but let's say vibration itself of on and off is existence. I hope you understand what I mean...
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I agree with you in general, but I must say... you need a new front lawn
@@cloudfloat4179 This is what puzzles me. I resonated with your second sentence; A game that existence is playing with itself. Everything is made out of the elements. Then they 'decided' to form and differentiate into other forms. Some became sentient others not. The sentient ones thrive on eating, fucking and killing each other and exploiting/manipulating the inanimate for the same purpose. I cannot for the life of me figure why. It seems it's a game made to get rid of boredom. The game absolutely sucks!!!!
Such a perfect reading. I can feel Schopenhauer’s scowl and disgust as he observes his fellow wretched humans.
"In which ever way a man may have failed, he cannot have lost much..."
I don't find him miserable. I find he is comforting. ✨
How tho
I do too.
Its a paradox but he is the most comforting Philosopher
Much like Spinoza, whose Ethics seem inaccessible to so many first time readers-later, people often realize that Spinoza’s soft-determinism is actually consoling because of its accuracy.
So do I! It's a little like black metal music, comforting.
His take on women is refreshing 😂.
This isn't dark. This is liberating.
yeah i thought so too...but just wait...you'll see
@@JoviBootlegs90 see what?
@@JoviBootlegs90I might have passed that phrase.
Here to pay my respects. This audio is what got me into Schopenhauer. The narrator’s voice is like a narcotic, and Schopenhauer’s writing is so immediate that it resonated with me instantly. It’s way more comforting than I ever would have expected. His pessimism, as opposed to striking me as bleak and depressing, struck me as profound, consoling and freeing.
Thank you, D.E. Wittkower for bringing Schopenhauer to life for me. And thank you, Philosophy Overdose, for uploading it to UA-cam. (Fitting name, by the way!)
Same for me, although it was surely another video which this a clone of since it was almost 8 years ago.
Completely changed my life. I can barely put it into words and this is an experience common among many people, both common and uncommon, that came across this guy. We all felt as if hit by a train. As if God came down and explained to mere mortals in otherworldly clarity the workings of his world.
It feels as if it's wrong for a human to understand this much. Unholy, alien, forbidden knowledge.
I'm an absolute physicalist, these are just figures of speech.
..Sokrates and Plato,
Kant and Shopenhauer, they are the most original funmakers of the universe.
The others are just chewing on them.
Or try to.
I have PudelMan`s:"The world as will and imagination" for 12 years now.
Never got beyond page 100, though i made 3 attempts.
This book scares me.
Really.
Too much truth at once, such density, it definitely lessens the common ground you are standing on with "the others".
And at such speed, that you have barely the time to adjust your feet.
A Bukowskian poem of a Bukowskian fan I found on the internet.
Schopenhauer's works are exemplary of the saying "what has been seen cannot be unseen".
Utter revelation and disillusionment. Like Adam an Eve biting from the Tree of Knowledge.
@lemon-yi6yh same for me ❤❤❤
Hi Arthur. I love you and I love this book
This is what I like, an honest writer
Att: Nietzsche
@@abortodedios My username is a quote from his Beyond Good and Evil. I know Nietzsche well, señor.
Schopenhauer doesnt seem like a pessimist rather an objective observer if the reality he's experiencing.
I find his work to be hilarious, deep, insightful, and encouraging.
When I'm reading schopenhauer it's like I've met a brother, a kindred spirit that speaks to my soul.
I always get a good laugh listening to Schopenhauer!
Wittkower is the best reader of Schopenhauer I have ever heard. Absolutely brilliant.
This book has changed my life on a daily basis
Something else can change your life:
Getting the crap beaten out of you by a MMA fighter, minus the injuries.
Hands down the most uplifting experience I've ever had in my life.
@@nativeamericancowboy5028 ok?
True indeed
@@nativeamericancowboy5028 Curious, did the MMA beatdown experience expand or deplete the masculine ego? Or, perhaps, _refine_ it?
(I'm assuming it's about ego, but maybe that's not what changed in your case)
@@No_Avail it subdues the ego. It mellows and relaxes the ego.
You tend to desire things a lot less.
It puts you in a state of mine that everything is fine just the way it is, and no changes are necessary.
My favourite philosopher
I have chosen this for.my research in doctorate
Kashmir?
Is mercy not the ending of suffering?
Good luck.
Perfect, absolutely perfect.
Schopenhauer was like a great saint
The narrator is perfect
At least i know that this guy, being dead, is not trying to grift me or spying on me. Tthank you.
This book is only as dark as you allow it to be.
Once one understands how to properly see through Schopenhauer's lense of pessimism, you realize that the concepts discussed are an enlightened take on life.
Enlightening because these are fundamental and deeply freeing concepts.
Coming from a religious background, this blasphemy turns into a renaissance of reality.
This may seem pitch black, especially the first three chapters, but as long as you don't contrast your life with the points being made, and allow yourself to look at them objectively, the shade of darkness will lighten. As long as you have the mental fortitude to think about these concepts in regards to life in general, I believe this is fundamentally one of the most enlightening philosophical lenses.
Well said
The porcupine parable is justly celebrated, and I always think of it whenever I, unfortunately, find myself in any gathering of the uncouth.
You opened my soul in a most wonderful way with this lecture.
Yes! Take that Nietzsche! Will to Power is nothing other than recognizing the futility of our own existence!
哈哈哈哈。我個人結合了伊比鳩魯和尼采的哲學,儘管我欣然承認叔本華是一位偉大的文學文體家。
So comforting to confront suffering and boredom with a new perspective. To embrace inevitable suffering gladly is optimistic in its own right
You're right
The way he conveys the words, makes me feel blissful
"Life is fucked." - Arthur Schopenhauer
“Life is fucked, but we can make it better” - Albert Camus
“Life is fucked but who cares!". Slasian Z Mankrian
“‘Life’ is fukt because you like it that way & wouldn’t have it any other”
"Life is fucked or life is not fucked.. it'll regret both" Søren kierkegaard
"Life is fucked, but stop being such a little bitch about it" ~Marcus Aurelius
This is so true, reality is so miserable, and for what, we all end up dead anyway.
Yes, but we have to wait a long time until we are dead. So we have to find meaning otherwise what is the alternative?
@@ldshasnobrain idk, it would be nice to free oneself from the suffering of life, from the anxiety of existence. In a way the acknowledgment of nihilism, nothing has any meaning or value and the belief in nothing frees you mentally. If we are to die in the end, if all of our efforts, all of our sacrifices, all of our suffering in the present moment are essentially pointless and meaningless. Then as the observer and experiencer of the present moment, why should I shackle myself to a dilution of meaning that will only increase the amount of suffering I experience. Why not affirm life’s meaningless? At least I hope that in practice nihilism can lead to mental or psychological freedom. I would hate for the meaning I gave to life to make life seem so serious that it becomes a misery worse than death. Also, the understanding that nothing matters, that death will eventually come for us, although it is sad, it is a part of life and when I have anxiety or life seems unbearable that thought is comforting and freeing. I’m not sure if I explained it well tbh I am still thinking about this, but it would be nice to be mentally free through nihilism, and then you would be able to strive for something in life without it feeling too serious and causing suffering.
Row row row your boat…
Play sports. That's the only, true relief from the hardships of life.
@@ldshasnobrain How to find joy in a joyless place, except by realizing you're not there. Look inside, don't take the world seriously.
I'm a fan of Schopenhauer. Primarily, his elaboration of Consciousness and perception, Will and representation. This section here reminds me of the Buddha, "life is suffering".
I love Schopenhauer
he spittin factz fr fr
This really has little to do about pessimism. He is observing life. The part about noise is truly comedy😂😂 love it.
uplifting!
Great reading
All libravox recordings are in the public domain.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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- Soupy Sales
Yet another example of based Schopenhauer
Amazing. Thanks for this😊
At 1:01, the translator tries to justify replacing the original "Unzerstörbarkeit" (indestructibility) with Unsterblichkeit (immortality) in death because the latter is easier to understand, but 1) the former makes sense because once you're dead you can't be destroyed (indestructible) but the latter doesn't because once you're dead you've died and thus are not immortal 2) immortality would be a nightmare to somebody like S. who adopts the Buddhist view that all life is suffering and 3) in the realm of philosophy, being easily understandable is the same thing as banal/cliché because a revelation is necessarily entirely new, at least to Western culture, although it may already have been known to a small minority of Buddhist/Hindu sages.
Excellent comment.Thank you.
What a very heavy way to emphasise core ideas. The way he communicates his ideas are so "painful" it stabs, but you don't bleed.
Great to fall asleep to.
you're not supposed to fall asleep, you're supposed to listen and reflect about pessimism and pain.
You’re supposed to wake up !!
You can reflect and also be comforted to the point of falling asleep, then pick up where you left off.
So true...every bit of it.
After reading these comments I'm convinced 90% of you cherry picked specific chapters and barely made it through them. Look up the definition of pessimism and understand what these writings are describing. Even if you don't agree with something that doesn't mean it's not worth consideration. Chew on the ideas that you disagree with most and figure out why you dislike them.
After reading your comment I'm convinced 90% of your blah blah blah.
Oxford does not define the meaning of words, they are defined in their context of being used 99% of the time.
Just as you fight their opinions, they fight Arthur's, what is the difference? What is the point? You will either learn or be deluded and so will they.
Nothing is new.
This book is only as dark as you allow it to be.
This may seem pitch black, especially the first three chapters, but as long as you don't contrast your life with the points being made, and allow yourself to look at them objectively, the shade of darkness will lighten. As long as you have the mental fortitude to think about these concepts in regards to life in general, I believe this is fundamentally one of the most enlightening philosophical lenses.
btw are u an optimist? just askin cuz im curious and scared to read Schopenhauer
Great read.
I wake up every morning with that exact hair. Life is suffering.
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Kids should read this ever year in school.
The world would be a better place.
“Every man takes the limits of his views to be the world...” Religions survive to provide a common view to unite the visions of humanity.
Well narrated. Thank you.
Thank you for uploading this you are saving me a trip to the library and if you’re motivated please put more Arthur Schopenhauer philosophy on here too.
Oh no I will also be buying a copy for the shelf
100%
The consolation of my life and the consolation of my death.
The cracking of the whip sound is like ppl alarming thier vehicles with honking of a horn all day all night long
Love=recognition of suffering...
38:20 this part hit me so hard. It is so starkly horrifyingly true
Ecclesiastes 1:14
King James Version
14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
Indeed.
Solomon Ecclesiastes rang out to me as some of the first nihilism writings.
I have sought after knowledge and madness, And with much knowledge comes much suffering
This guy is like the source material for a lot of stand up comedy
Like Cioran, pessimism that gives strange pleasure
I wonder if this guy partied down on the weekends after a long week of grinding out pessimism on the paper.🎉 🎉
I think he was virtually a recluse
🧐 I can smell it over the internet too, wild
He was actually found of women, good food, wine, going to the theater and opera, and he never had to work a day for his living, because he inherited his rich father at the age of 21, but as he was an honest man, so he wrote the truth about life in general nevertheless.
@@francisdec1615 I knew it 😆
Why does nobody talk about this stuff daily?
Some do, but it's a minority interest.
itll make enemies, who usually dont like talking
people hold on to their delusions for dear life
It's because propaganda is making people ignorant. Do you think content like this would even have a chance on social media?
@@joeybeannwhat’s your email, we can start a philosophy discussion group
war greed sex drug addiction and and vengeance are all part of human nature. we should teach that to our children.
We do. That’s the problem.
Each time our feelings drives us to pessimist emotions it s time to adjust to more awareness in order to feel better
Pain is inevitable suffering is optional
true
Schopenhauer the man who shreds abominations of existence apart.
Great reader.
The way he SHREDDED women is so random and unprovoked, which makes it hilarious 🤣
Quiet down
😆
Nothing he wrote was random.
Life is the provocation
As Arthur explains, no woman excels in philosophical matters. (Not art, not science)
Just think about it and you'll realize that it is indeed true.
That said, it is understandable that you may find it difficult to understand reality from a point of view that you are not prepared to understand. Woman in general only follow their emotions, and lack the capacity for extreme objectivity, because it is uncomfortable for their feelings.
The Edgar Allan Poe of philosophers.
Well put and beautifully said ,
unfortunately we men have fallen so far that are blinded to the consequences of men who lead us into this current mess that we live in.
Problem is in the 'men' that lead the 'men'. Being the men created by men. Its the snake biting its own tail again and again
One of my favorite listenings
As Lindsay Buckingham said: “There are two kinds of trouble in this world: Living and Dying.”
Boredom is just another form of suffering. - Arthur Schopenhauer
As Madam De Stael put it: “We must choose in life between boredom and suffering.”
Miserable but brilliant man
You are miserable
Thank you!
Nice picture 🤗
Can you imagine if a modern day philosopher came out with the same opinion of women as this bloke?
So what if a modern day philosopher were honest about the nature of women? Yes, that would be refreshing as Schopenhauer's chapter on them.
there’s no such thing as a modern day philosopher
It's mgtow now
They are all over the place in the Twitter manosphere. TellYourSonThis is one of them. Just not mainstream so they don’t attract a lot of hate.
Thats why the modern world sucks, fake and lies
Thanks for sharing
8:30 absolutely, this one for Hegel 😂
Haha yeah
Ahh pure chills
Thank You for your λόγοσ. Indeed.
Wow, this is really well, pessimistic.
I ❤ schlopenhoove
this is lowkey great to fall asleep to
Wow! just WOW!
Well gee, thanks for the pick me up.
You’re new here, I can tell.
Such a happy book 🥰🥰
This is the most German book I’ve ever read!!!
46:44 the strongest argument against suicide is the claim that a person's life and being are not solely his own property, rather, he "belongs" to society, especially to the persons closest to him, who are attached to him. A person's identity or being may be viewed as a node in the social web in which he is located, and when he commits suicide, he tears a hole in the web in which everyone, specifically around him, abstractly -- universally, are existing.
I dont suggest this as a con or pro, this I leave each of us to decide for themselves.
However I am adding it to the here suggested argument that man is his own "property" in the widest and metaphorical sense.
Anyone who has lost especially a close relative or friend to suicide, will most probably agree with me, that the act creates a ripple in the common and private worlds which persists so to say, forever.
I’m virtually invisible to society so it wouldn’t make a shred of difference but I don’t plan on the big out, I like living
@@paulatreides0777 there! I see you! you are not totally invisible! you read, you respond, you are part of my experience of this event.
@@ZaKrakilla we are lucky to have around a wise one that you are, to balance the stupidity of drugged people like me. keep the good job!
But if the suicide has a level of suffering that is debilitating he/she has a right to end their own life... damn, the societal and/or family good. Believe you me, in reality, people move on fast & the passing is barely a blip. To the suicide's close one's...maybe not...but they are the only ones who know the ending was too end thier pain & not hurt the living
My best friend since ninth grade committed suicide by overdose of heroin. I’m 47 so very long friendship. I disagree with your assessment. He was in a very dark place about to go on a killing spree. Granted he was going to kill the pedophile that raped his niece/my daughter when she was 8 along with the guy who raped his daughter and got off in court. There would have been innocents killed as well. He lived in agonizing pain from the injuries he acquired through life. He was a shadow of himself compared to who he was as a young man. Three people were devastated from his death (including myself) but it was our own selfishness of not wanting to be the last man standing. He sent black tar heroin to our friends in seven states and everyone except me are all deceased. These were friends from school. It’s hard to live with yourself knowing you played a large roll in killing your friends. Many more would be dead had he not taken himself out.
Imagine if every school shooter had just killed themselves instead of shooting up a school. Or serial killers offed themselves, how could this be a bad thing. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
Verry good 👍😉✌
Women. Can’t live with em can’t live without em
It turns out that the truly great philosopher was Hank Williams Sr.
I'd rather have never lived than experienced this so called 'love' from a woman.
Do not ask us to accommodate our doctrines to the lessons youve been taught.
Thats what we should realize in 2023.
Yes! It’s back, I was hung up at around 1:40 hours then your channel got deleted, thanks so much :)
Btw, do you have anything of Deleuze by chance? Would be great!
Do you know why it was deleted?
Arthur made me embrace my dark side
Don't do it Anakin
«Good, let the hate flow through you»
I come here again after some months to get a dose of realism.
Anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of 19th century sexism, and its foundational absurdity, would benefit from reading Schopenhauer. We men were deluded beyond comprehension, and it’s no wonder that even today in the postmodern world women still struggle for equal rights.
I cant find Matthias Claudius’ “cursed is the ground…” online anywhere! Anyone know where to find it?
The direct and immediate refutation of pessimism is the continuous desire for life itself ! Few willingly choose death over more life, and this is true even among those whom suffer the most -- the life-long imprisoned, the permanently disabled, the terminally ill, the sick and tired elderly, etc.. The overwhelming majority affirm the value of life, as does the pessimist himself, although unwittingly, so long as he does not immediately commit suicide and continues to live.
The yes to life.
@@mikemo2168 Clearly you have an inability to comprehend what you read because I wrote 'few willingly choose death over more life...'. Anyway, people who commit suicide don't hate life as much as they hate themselves.
@@mikemo2168 The real coward is the one who cries 'life is too hard'. Really ? But there you are still alive ! See, that's the proof, you rather cry and feel something, than to die and feel nothing at all. Every breath you take affirms life, and proves that you still give a damn yourself.
Why would anyone emotionally invest (aka, give a damn) about someone who might commit suicide ? If you don't love yourself, then don't expect anyone to care about you. If you are not willing to care about yourself, why do you expect others to care what happens to you ? Are you really expecting people to feel sorry for you, when you don't even have the self-care to love yourself ?
Life can be hard, yet most people are strong and courageous enough to go on living and find joy in it. A few weak people who don't even have the self-care to love themselves expect others to feel sorry for them. Life requires self-care, self-love, love of life, and the strength and courage to daily face adversity. You can cry all you want, but life will go on, and most people will continue to find real joy and happiness in just being alive. If you kill yourself because you hate life, then life still wins because your hatred was itself part of your life ! You have the chance to love yourself.. are you worth it ? If your answer is 'no', then why should anyone disagree with you ?
@@mikemo2168 No time to read your long-winded rant... unlike you, I actually have a life that I love.
@@mikemo2168 You're still alive ? What are you waiting for ?