Very very helpful video. Thanks for the slow mow that really helps us rank bastards see the "D" form. Excellent time of day and camera angle from up above to see the head of the line through each sequence of events.
I've watched a rediculous amount of "beginner" spey casting videos on UA-cam. This is the only one that actually said that you have to have the shooting heads outside your guides. Thank you so much.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on casting Skagit or Spey I never thought of just practising the d loops like you do in this video I just started using an 11.6 ft 6wt Skagit rod with 300 gr OPST line with 30 gr sink tip and I'm having a hard time casting past the shooting head I can't get the running line out it stops about 10 feet into the running line but now watching your video I'm gonna practice just on the d loop until I feel comfortable letting it fly.Thank you so much I'm going to try first thing tomorrow morning
This had help me alot! Video was well explained and very helpful. Im new to skagit and my first time out was horrible. I wanted to quit. But my cast is improving. Thank you!
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins Getting alot better now!! Thanks so much! I've watched your videos constantly and learning most of my mistakes. Just need to dial it in on not blowing my anchor. Thank you!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hey, another thing you might cover in a video sometime is this... I've learned (the hard way) as a raw beginner that the elevation of your feet in relation to the water surface has a HUGE impact on Skagit / Spey casting. Most videos on the subject (including yours) are shot with the caster standing in the water. Well, most of my learning has been done at city park ponds, where I'm standing on shore with my feet 6 to 12 inches above the water surface. Translation: Blown Anchors. The same would be true for casting from a boat, I would think. Lengthening my leader helps, as does keeping my sweep and forward stroke a little bit "side-arm." Anyway, I think a video on that could help a lot of people, and I haven't seen one on that topic anywhere so far. Thanks again.
I have been searching but not found any decent videos on skagit casting when the bank is high or wading not possible. If the techniques in this video were applied on my local river the bank mentioned would be continually getting caught. The search for the solution to this continues.
Thank you Jedi, 180 is a critical part to complete the full circle on any of the roll cast family exercise. Not really 100 sure when you mention that the loop must be directly behind us, I do understand the concept Jedi, but from a beginner point of view can be tricky if not confused when they place the loop behind and the results are not as show. We as a beginners, it really helps a kind of ''visual reference'' on this part, I start to picture a rail train tracks to have a better reference over my 180 principal, and even like that, my forward cast fail many times during my practices. Personally, I solve the problem by doing a more consistent and firm open or ''around the house'' sweep to rod load all the way to the 1001-1002 timing count, I actually can feel the Dloop head tension ''TAP'' on the rod tip much better over my casting shoulder, thats when I knew is time to go with the forward by following the opposite direction of the Dloop head tension ''TAP''. The TAP is very clear on most of your videos Jedi. Words are not my element, so I hope it helps. Keep them coming please, I love your work!! Best Mag
Hey! Loved the vid, but had two questions. Firstly, i was wondering if you recommend the opst commando setup? Secondly, if I'm looking to cast about 70ft, how much line do you recommend I have outside the guides when I begin my cast? Anyways, keep up the content!
Thanks Daniel. Yes, OPST is good. You will want the Commando head completely outside the guides with about a foot of overhang (running line) you can work up to 2 to 3 feet out the guides as you progress.
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins thanks for responding! One more question though. For distance casts, which single hand casts would you recomended? I have learned the Perry poke, double spey, single spey... and was wondering if I should start practicing another. Thanks again for responding, and have a good night!
imagining that you are facing the river your head points to 12 noon and your feet 18 hours in the launch with skagit at what height of the clock is advisable to stop the cane saldudos from Argentina
Hey! I got an OPST commando skagit for a 10 foot 7WT single hand rod. I tried it out today at my local fly casting ponds and had a hard time. My roll casts are pretty good, but was struggling with this. I see that I might have to be in the water to do this. I was fishing elevated, away from the edge of water. Ill grab my waders seee if it helps being inside.
Yeah Francois, its pretty easy to blow your anchor if you are elevated high above the water but if your roll casts are ok, then it can be done. Just dont overpower the sweep. Go very slow!
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins Thanks!! So it turns out a 12 foot sink tip on my 10 foot single handed rod is not the best choice. I tried a 7.5 last night and it is muchhhh easier to cast. Night and day difference. Still need lot of practice so I'll be watching the vids. Thanks
Ive been trying to roll cast all winter with 2-3" flies and it wasnt too bad but i started pike fishing with 6 inch flues today and have trouble, what lenth of leader do you use your small flies and what would you use for big flies like i use
Low end: TFO Deer Creek 13' 7/8 525 Rio Skagit short, 12' t11 High End: Burkheimer 13' 9" #8 550 to 600 Skagit Max, 12' t11 hold on! these are just off the top of my head so double check with Mark at flyfish Usa for deer creek, or contact Burkhiemer. Both Rods produce linespeed and payload!
Great videos, I think we need to touch the 180 principal, at this video about 6:57 the anchor&Dloop would be a great sample of a good 180. Master the timing to get a true 180 principal was my biggest challenge. Let as know how did you mastered the 180 please. Thank you and keep up the good work.
When a rod states 250-275 grain skagit line is that only talking about the shooting head grain weight? Or is it shooting head grain weight + tip grain weight need to equal between 250-275?
Usually that revers to the weight of the Skagit head alone. However if you combine the weight of the head and sinktip to equal that amount you can use waterborne anchors and airborne with pretty good results
Rod is and anglers roost which are currently not available but may be available again not sure about the real I prefer caged clicker type reels. With mono running line.Shakespeare Beaulite is my favorite choice
Thanks Alan. Video was shot in beautiful downtown Bend Oregon, upstream of the Old Mill district. Be sure to visit the Confluence Fly shop in the old Mill district. Sweet shop with nice fellers working there.
LineSpeedJedi okay. I used to live in Spokane, WA. Tried my luck in the music scene for about three years but it didn't work out. maybe one day I can get back up there. I'm all the way down here in Alabama. I've been working on some short skagit line. I took a 30 feet Maximum Catch floating line and cut it in half. Well, I have been experimenting with it at the local lake with a 9'6" 5 weight single hand fly rod. (I guess I'm saying that I'm too cheap to get the opst commando shooting head but probably will get fed up and break down and purchase it eventually), and it seems to do fairly good. I'm wondering which end I should loop to the running line. Should I try looping the thin tapered end to the running line? I have the thick end to the running line right now but haven't tied the thin end yet. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this? You seem to ha e your stuff together on this skagit line stuff.
Thanks for the video! I am trying to learn this stuff in a part of the country where very few people cast this way. If you have time please look at a few casts on my little video: More Slow Motion Skagit Casting Analysis II - UA-cam. I'm sure I have much to learn!
Rank beginner would be an understatement. But I do have the fire and the desire. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights.
Get after it!!!
Thanks again for putting this/these informative Skagit casting tutorial videos!
My pleasure!
Very very helpful video. Thanks for the slow mow that really helps us rank bastards see the "D" form. Excellent time of day and camera angle from up above to see the head of the line through each sequence of events.
thanks very much!!! sorry for the late response but I do appreciate it!
This is a great vid! Your D loop drill and demonstration were extremely helpful! I Look forward to watching more of your vids!
Awesome, thank you!
I am a struggling but enthusiastic spey caster. Thank you for the drill and instruction. So appreciate it. 😊
Stay after it. you will get it.
Im an advanced caster (grew up steelheading in BC) but I'm always watching tutorials to pick up new insights. This is an excellent tutorial!
Thank you very much! I really appreciate your input!
I've watched a rediculous amount of "beginner" spey casting videos on UA-cam. This is the only one that actually said that you have to have the shooting heads outside your guides. Thank you so much.
You are welcome! Thanks very much for the feedback. This is helpful for my upcoming instructional videos.
I’m 2 years late to the party...but that’s OK bc this advice is timeless. Thank you for keeping it simple and clear.
You are so welcome! Thanks for taking the time to say so!!!! love it!
This old dog is learning too & I re-watch these plenty! Thanks Jedi & merry Christmas!
Great lesson: Concentrates on the critical fundamentals without getting bogged down in small less important details.
Thanks so much for the input. happy you enjoyed it
This is one of the best videos I've seen on casting Skagit or Spey I never thought of just practising the d loops like you do in this video I just started using an 11.6 ft 6wt Skagit rod with 300 gr OPST line with 30 gr sink tip and I'm having a hard time casting past the shooting head I can't get the running line out it stops about 10 feet into the running line but now watching your video I'm gonna practice just on the d loop until I feel comfortable letting it fly.Thank you so much I'm going to try first thing tomorrow morning
Awesome info! I wish this would have been available a year ago when I started to just learn to skagit/spey cast. Thank you.
Thank you Tickfarm!
This is where I practice too Tim. This video makes so much more sense as i have gained experience skagit casting.
Thank you Mike, Maybe I will see you down there some time!
Very helpful great tips the slow Mo also helps alot. Thanks
Thank you, I'm so happy this helped
This had help me alot! Video was well explained and very helpful. Im new to skagit and my first time out was horrible. I wanted to quit. But my cast is improving. Thank you!
Great to hear! These kind of comments are very encouraging! So happy you are making headway. Keep it up. You got this bro!
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins Getting alot better now!! Thanks so much! I've watched your videos constantly and learning most of my mistakes. Just need to dial it in on not blowing my anchor. Thank you!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
A video for me. Yippie
Thanks
Great knowledge here! Thank you for sharing again.
Thank you and thanks for commenting!
Nice instructions!
Thanks Adam. Hope they help you in your casting or helping others!
I'm a troubled caster!!! thanks!
hope this helped!
Nice work, my man. Super helpful. Thank you.
Hey, another thing you might cover in a video sometime is this... I've learned (the hard way) as a raw beginner that the elevation of your feet in relation to the water surface has a HUGE impact on Skagit / Spey casting. Most videos on the subject (including yours) are shot with the caster standing in the water. Well, most of my learning has been done at city park ponds, where I'm standing on shore with my feet 6 to 12 inches above the water surface. Translation: Blown Anchors. The same would be true for casting from a boat, I would think. Lengthening my leader helps, as does keeping my sweep and forward stroke a little bit "side-arm." Anyway, I think a video on that could help a lot of people, and I haven't seen one on that topic anywhere so far. Thanks again.
@@iowaflytyer thanks River Guy! Great input!
Definitely appreciate your videos... I'm pretty rank
LOL! Thanks for the comment my friend!
Awesome video!
Cheers and tight lines Raph
Thanks Ralf! Enjoy your Videos too buddy!
Thank you.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Great ！The Video and the explanation were synchronization very easy to understand ♪
I have been searching but not found any decent videos on skagit casting when the bank is high or wading not possible. If the techniques in this video were applied on my local river the bank mentioned would be continually getting caught. The search for the solution to this continues.
The most important thing is to get your anchor way, way, way out in front. Check out the cack handed casts in this video.
Thank you Jedi, 180 is a critical part to complete the full circle on any of the roll cast family exercise. Not really 100 sure when you mention that the loop must be directly behind us, I do understand the concept Jedi, but from a beginner point of view can be tricky if not confused when they place the loop behind and the results are not as show.
We as a beginners, it really helps a kind of ''visual reference'' on this part, I start to picture a rail train tracks to have a better reference over my 180 principal, and even like that, my forward cast fail many times during my practices.
Personally, I solve the problem by doing a more consistent and firm open or ''around the house'' sweep to rod load all the way to the 1001-1002 timing count, I actually can feel the Dloop head tension ''TAP'' on the rod tip much better over my casting shoulder, thats when I knew is time to go with the forward by following the opposite direction of the Dloop head tension ''TAP''. The TAP is very clear on most of your videos Jedi.
Words are not my element, so I hope it helps. Keep them coming please, I love your work!!
Best
Mag
thank you for the good videos.
Thanks so much for watching
Hey! Loved the vid, but had two questions. Firstly, i was wondering if you recommend the opst commando setup? Secondly, if I'm looking to cast about 70ft, how much line do you recommend I have outside the guides when I begin my cast?
Anyways, keep up the content!
Thanks Daniel. Yes, OPST is good. You will want the Commando head completely outside the guides with about a foot of overhang (running line) you can work up to 2 to 3 feet out the guides as you progress.
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins thanks for responding! One more question though. For distance casts, which single hand casts would you recomended? I have learned the Perry poke, double spey, single spey... and was wondering if I should start practicing another.
Thanks again for responding, and have a good night!
imagining that you are facing the river your head points to 12 noon and your feet 18 hours in the launch with skagit at what height of the clock is advisable to stop the cane saldudos from Argentina
perfect more than clear thank you very much for the predisposition a great abraso their videos have been very useful
in fact I recorded myself practicing and thanks to your videos I could see my mistakes I leave you the link of my video greetings friend at a distance
ua-cam.com/video/xFUyksSXQk8/v-deo.html
Hey! I got an OPST commando skagit for a 10 foot 7WT single hand rod. I tried it out today at my local fly casting ponds and had a hard time. My roll casts are pretty good, but was struggling with this. I see that I might have to be in the water to do this. I was fishing elevated, away from the edge of water. Ill grab my waders seee if it helps being inside.
I dont think I was able to get an appropriate D loop where I was standing away from the water
Yeah Francois, its pretty easy to blow your anchor if you are elevated high above the water but if your roll casts are ok, then it can be done. Just dont overpower the sweep. Go very slow!
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins Thanks!!
So it turns out a 12 foot sink tip on my 10 foot single handed rod is not the best choice. I tried a 7.5 last night and it is muchhhh easier to cast. Night and day difference. Still need lot of practice so I'll be watching the vids. Thanks
I have a 11' maxcast 4wt, V switch rod a 240grain skait scout with 7.5" opst S2 and a metre of 10 mono on the end my casts look horrid
Ive been trying to roll cast all winter with 2-3" flies and it wasnt too bad but i started pike fishing with 6 inch flues today and have trouble, what lenth of leader do you use your small flies and what would you use for big flies like i use
Nice work! What set up do you recommend for long distance: Rod, skagit line and sink tip?
Low end: TFO Deer Creek 13' 7/8 525 Rio Skagit short, 12' t11
High End: Burkheimer 13' 9" #8 550 to 600 Skagit Max, 12' t11 hold on! these are just off the top of my head so double check with Mark at flyfish Usa for deer creek, or contact Burkhiemer. Both Rods produce linespeed and payload!
Great videos, I think we need to touch the 180 principal, at this video about 6:57 the anchor&Dloop would be a great sample of a good 180.
Master the timing to get a true 180 principal was my biggest challenge. Let as know how did you mastered the 180 please. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Line Speed Jedi
No problem, thank you for the note.
When a rod states 250-275 grain skagit line is that only talking about the shooting head grain weight? Or is it shooting head grain weight + tip grain weight need to equal between 250-275?
Usually that revers to the weight of the Skagit head alone. However if you combine the weight of the head and sinktip to equal that amount you can use waterborne anchors and airborne with pretty good results
I like the rod and reel set up you have there! Who's the company??
Rod is and anglers roost which are currently not available but may be available again not sure about the real I prefer caged clicker type reels. With mono running line.Shakespeare Beaulite is my favorite choice
Where are u in this video? God it's beautiful scenery behind u!!! And I'll bet the trout are magnificent there!
Thanks Alan. Video was shot in beautiful downtown Bend Oregon, upstream of the Old Mill district. Be sure to visit the Confluence Fly shop in the old Mill district. Sweet shop with nice fellers working there.
LineSpeedJedi okay. I used to live in Spokane, WA. Tried my luck in the music scene for about three years but it didn't work out. maybe one day I can get back up there. I'm all the way down here in Alabama. I've been working on some short skagit line. I took a 30 feet Maximum Catch floating line and cut it in half. Well, I have been experimenting with it at the local lake with a 9'6" 5 weight single hand fly rod. (I guess I'm saying that I'm too cheap to get the opst commando shooting head but probably will get fed up and break down and purchase it eventually), and it seems to do fairly good. I'm wondering which end I should loop to the running line. Should I try looping the thin tapered end to the running line? I have the thick end to the running line right now but haven't tied the thin end yet. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this? You seem to ha e your stuff together on this skagit line stuff.
Thanks for the video! I am trying to learn this stuff in a part of the country where very few people cast this way. If you have time please look at a few casts on my little video: More Slow Motion Skagit Casting Analysis II - UA-cam. I'm sure I have much to learn!
very well
If this was meant to be a beginner’s casting video, you should have started by explaining what the heck is “blowing out your anchor”.