I HOPE Comic Book Prices CRASH To Zero
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I'm noticing less and less key books for sale on ebay which leads me to believe people are in a hold mode, not willing right now to adjust their self inflated values
but key comics are popping up like crazy on major auction sites, go figure,....
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I couldn't agree more! keep the hobby alive. fuck the fakers and market manipulators
fuck scalpers
Let's go!!!! I finally got a Batman 171 last week, and it was CHEAP! I'm with you.
The great equalizer is loss. If loss reinforces your love for the medium, then you are a collector. If loss makes you fearful, then you are an investor. I have zero emotional connection to my retirement investments. I love my comic books (too much even).
The down period is great for me. Made me focus on runs/fillers and not getting the best price on just keys
@@VolkswagenGameri mean id hope so 😭😭
If prices go down and you care - you’re not collector ?! If your house goes to zero are you not a true homeowner if you care ?!
Correct. And if you bought a can of corn last week and it costs 10 cents more this week and you didn't eat it already, you're a dirty food speculator.
Omg it’s been ridiculous! I’ve been collecting Batman for 18 years now and I’d give anything to go back and start buying the 100’s and 200’s of Batman. Prices are so inflated now.
I’m a collector. Always have been.
I’m on the same boat. I hope these keys drop another 50% so I can obtain them. I can care less if my current books drop in value since I’m not selling them anyway.
"you could care less"...(?) That doesn't make any sense
@@christophertomasello1227relax Einstein
As a collector since the late 80s. I'm a collector but I also had a limit on my wallet and just slowly built my collection through comicbook stores, garage sales, church bazaars, random meetings, etc...
Being a collector at a comfortable price can be a slow process but every acquisition is almost sacred and has its own story which "adds" value for each of my comic books.
I got sidetracked as well, about a year ago I just went back to basics and started buying what I loved and enjoyed again!!
I'm proud of you Sticky Goose. You're seeing the light.
The concept of "investor" with Comics, Baseball cards, tcg etc is ridiculous for 98% of these items.
As a collector going on 49 years, you spoke to my soul. You are now my favorite comic UA-cam. And I listen and subscribe to many.
I disagree about the ability to be a hybrid. I buy things I don’t collect because it’s a good deal and I hope to flip to buy something I do love.
I've done that, but not very often. Sometimes I wind up with duplicates, which is when I sell....
I think many of us do this and there is a strange taboo threshold that some people see as too much selling. But if you only do it a little it’s accepted by “true” collectors. It certainly is more polarizing and convenient to categorize a collector/investor and judge them based on that category.
@@dansxmencomicswhy would anyone care about what someone that calls themself a true collector thinks lol “hey i’m a true collector and it looks like you sold too many comic books this week, In taking your collector badge away”
Mr Goose “I’m going to sell my comics”…. Mrs Goose “FINALLY”
Its just crazy how many youtube comic book videos are about speculating and ‘keys you should be buying now” lol. A lot of my favorite comics are and always have been pretty worthless. It would be refreshing to see people posting about comics they like and why, instead of how much $$ they might be worth
I've always had the perspective of having the hobby pay for itself since I was trading comics in the schoolyard. Fakes are fakes, and just like speculators they've always been part of this. They usually bottom out, but the collectors can persist because they have the long-term desire to own issues.
The comic book market right now is like any economy. There is inflation, inflation on prices, inflation on demand. The more interest there is on books, prices will increase. When prices increase people's attention is direct to it. They think ok, here is something I can invest in. Now , like you said. We now have people in the game who have no business being in the game, driving up prices because they have the capital to do so. The great thing about these guys are the are not patient. The will dump their book the moment it's no making money and that will free up inventory. We just need to be careful not to buy to quickly and create new price thresholds
For me, collecting is all about passion!
Recently retired and downsizing!
Finding it difficult to unload my collection! I have had to practically give them away! My goal is to replace my comics with omnibuses!
The market isnt crashing, it's going through a re-adjustment as people's expectations come back to reality. The problem with ever-escalating prices is fewer and fewer people are willing to shell out the money. For example The first appearance of Tiger-Shark was a book i wanted (Sub-Mariner #5 i think) , but the movie hype made it's price go up past what I wanted to pay. Now it's back down to the price it was before the hype train started, only now I no longer care about buying it. It would have to be way cheaper now for me to even consider it.
Were you looking for raw or slabbed? I feel like the CGC debacle will take a long time to stabilize but wonder if raws will have faster stabilization. It is definitely interesting to watch.
so the market crashed.
Yeah and while raw comics can adjust quickly with ups and downs, slabbed books are bogged down with categories, grading scandals, older vs newer slab style, etc. i feel like any permanent resolutions for slabs in the future will be very, very sluggish. Was just looking for opinions.
its like musical chairs on those price increases when the last person left standing gets it,....
I really hope it does so I can buy some of the books that became too expensive
100% I want to be able to afford things I actually enjoy and not have to spend an insane amount of $
Honestly... I kind of hope so too. So I can afford some of the ones I want. I never purchased a comic to make money.
The cheaper I can get the books I need is good for me!
Exactly, I do feel bad that people are losing their shirts on inflated books they purchased, but thems the breaks. Just like the stock market there is rise and fall, I am a collector foremost but what drives me is the ability to resell what I dont want to purchase what I do. It is a great time to buy collections right now, BUT bottom line when I am buying collections I make it a priority to over pay a little to acquire contacts in the industry. Networking is the way to secure future investment.
I feel you man.
I can honestly say i don't care about value or market price, i love comics, especially Marvel. I buy them, i read them, i frame them. Just like the ones behind you.They're brilliant.
They won't go down to zero, but expect the price of these speculator driven so-called "keys" to go down at least 80%-90%.
Pricing is based on simple economics. The greater the supply, without an equivalent demand, the more likely pricing will be suppressed or decrease. Right now, for a vast majority of books (particularly for modern, copper and bronze age books but also impacting certain silver age books too), there are too many copies available for sale. For a true investor, comic census or scarcity is a critical factor. Buying lower census books (that have inherent popularity) and then holding them is one way to mitigate this pricing risk (not guaranteed though).
Same. Get these pumpers and scalpers and influencers tf out of here.
Anyone who thinks comics are an investment doesn't know anything about either.
Well said
All serious collectors ALWAYS have one eye on the value of their collections. You CAN be both at the same time. There's no contradiction between a passion for a hobby and a desire to see your collection increase in value. None.
there definitely is lol, especially with comics and things of the sort
Agreed. And I've watched this hobby since 1969.
I'd love prices to massively reduce so I could afford to fill a few gaps. What my own collection is worth doesn't really matter because I'll never sell them. But I only want them to read them, which means no slabs!
Thanks for sharing this, truly excellent content!
You should have listed a top 10 ways of decreasing and declining the comic book prices lower. What would cause the comic book prices to crash to zero? When the stock market shorts out or people just not purchasing comic books for months or the dollar is not worth a dollar anymore
I agree that I want to buy books that I love for the best price possible…but I also don’t want to buy a book for $1500 and have it eventually worth $0. I’m happy that the market is correcting and even over correcting on some books. BUT, when I sell my collection in 25 years or so, I would like it to still be valuable to leave money to my kids. (They are not into comics)
The market and hobby always has ebbs and flows, collect long enough with a passion for what you love to do and the prices WILL come down. Books from the Silver age and Golden age however are always growing further in rarity with every passing year. Higher grade books within these eras however have and always will fluctuate much less due to their scarcity. The plus side is we're in a very volatile time right now and if our economy tanks and gets ugly, you'll see many people who got into something only as a possible investment to likely be the first ones dumping for a fraction of what they put in if things get difficult.
I'm stressed about the price of Spawn books. I can't in good conscience, spend on average $30 a book. I have most of the major keys, so run fillers should be $6 to $12 not $30! It would cost me $6K just on run fillers. My current consecutive run is from 240 to current. I still need about 162 books to complete the run. Impossibly expensive considering the books from 201 to 239 are $60 or more each.
I just spent a weekend trying to get a Spwan #1 for under $50 at fanexpo.
I laughed In a dealer's face when I found his copy of Spwan #1 for $100.00
I looked around and found spawn#1 at a different dealers booth in a short box for $15.00
I ended up buying spawn 1,2, 4 & 9 for like $40bucks.
Not sure where you buy your books.. but Spawn is not worth that much bro. It's a huge waste of money to collect the entire run.
@@Ken-g1x4t most of the local stores don’t have them. I do claim sales, eBay and conventions.
I’m a collector investing in making my man cave look bad ass!! If they go down then cool my man cave looks sick AF!! If they go up then my man cave still looks SICK AF !
I love the taboo subjects. I think many people have a mindset in both categories. We want the books but we also want to protect our money.
That's what a collector is exactly.
@@TT-fq7plnot even bro 😭😭😭
@@charless.m In every area of collecting, serious collectors build collections that other people will one day value. That IS the whole point. Otherwise you can just read reprints to get the stories and art.
I sold my last Black Lotus a while back and hoping to turn the cast into an X-men 1, funny enough. Trying to finish my childhood goal of X-men 1-300.
Yes I got a first appearance of Howard the Duck at Very Fine.
Prices will keep dropping for another 3-5yrs easily.. folks will have to hold for at least 10-20yrs til the next wave hits...
They'll never crash to zero.
As long as people are bidding and buying Zero won't happen but the adjustment will continue.
Eventually you change as you age. I never intended to sell books until I realized I can't take them with me😢 so sell it or give them away but i don't think keeping them in a closet is better. I started a small youtube channel to funnel some resurgence to my love of the hobby. Then the comicbook boom happened and I had to start selling even as I can't stop buying. So being a hybrid is real
I’m still new so I got tones to read and enjoy. Could care less about investment. Reading Batman Year One for the first time rn. Having a good ol time
Those were some amazing comics the guy was zipping past. The Prehero books were so awesome and he had no idea what he was looking at. He probably never even heard of Jack Kirby.
i feel the same with cars, cars that i was paying 1500 for 15-20 years ago now sell for 10k-20k all because the internet has made them the thing to have to fit in. Now i can't afford something that i admire
crashing may be a stringent term, but prices are down,...im glad maybe i can afford to buy a few that i couldnt last year,...
Welcome to the club. Been here since I was 8 years old and my grandma bought me Sonic #62 by Archie comics.
I buy the book I like, it just so happens that they are valuable and cost a lot. If I don’t like a book I don’t care how valuable it is. I don’t waste my money on books I don’t like doesn’t matter how great a deal it might be.
I paid cover price on pretty much of my Collection..IF i were to ever sell big buck$ would come quickly. Even if a comicbook commands a high after market value you still have to find someone willing to buy it at the price you are asking for it. It would physically hurt to part with most of it, the memories, the time, the effort, priceless 💔.
I’m not sure how to feel about this video.. as a collector I’m loving that it’s a buyers market for the last year and a half but it’s scary that true fans and collectors are rooting for the comic market to crash. This is the reason it’s a dying hobby cuz there is nothing to promote to the kids.. why would anyone want to get into a hobby where the collectors want their own books to be worth 0 😂 you should tell the truth tho Sticky, you created a business based on comics so let’s talk tax breaks 🤣 you clearing money one way or another
I'm a swiftie and I wanted Dazzler first appearance 🤗 Am I am collector or investor 🤔
youre gay
My favorite comic channel hands down. I’m a collector.. I don’t see much cash flow in selling comics unless you’re a well known seller or UA-camr. Majority of the time I see people losing money or breaking even.
Im hungry. I want the nachos prices to crash
Haha you want it to crash. You’re hilarious
I'm a true collector I collect what I love and like no matter if it's a key issue or not I'm like you I hope the comics sell crashes because most of the comics that I want in my collection cost way too much
Yup agree I want to collect books for cheap
I’m a collector but i always buy smart (below FMV) to make sure my books are more likely to be worth what I paid for in the future.
. Fire breathing dragon thing?. Omg !!!!
If there is a big comic crash then I can finally get my grail book tmnt#1 , but then again that also means that everyone will lose on the big key books.
I think people can be both ways. I was buying the newer books to grade and sell off so I could buy silver and golden age books. I speculated this new book boom craze would die eventually. The publishers are pumping out too much "in your face" politically correct garbage which drove the real collectors off. I suspect one day those meme, in your face, comics nobody wanted may be the books people look for one day, but not for me.
Mr. Goose: I take your point, but there are more collectors than investors and retailers selling comics online. Your wish could be realized tomorrow if collectors would be willing to sell their comics for much lower prices.
It’s only worth what you’re willing to pay!
Here's the secret, you will find the comic book you really want, for a lower price than you ever expected. Simply take your time, you don't need it right this minute, keep it on your list and you will find it like I have, 1-2 years later, at a comic book show, comic book shop, online seller, even at a flea market. Speculators will come and go, all thinking they all know how to get rich off comic books, and eventually find they can't sustain the speculation and buying, and end up selling everything they have for cheap. Be a collector, not a speculator.
I'm a really eccentric collector.
At the end of the day, you do what you enjoy. Hopefully within your means!
I’m a raw Batman comic collector
this was a great video stickygoose
Good take on what happens when fans age out and die, the Elvis collectibles issue. What if there are few younger fans who want to pay the full cost, investors will be upset, fans will scoop up great books.
What does Sticky G have to say on the high end investors on comics in the $100,000 to $3,000,000 range? Plenty of these "Investors" are anonymous people who dump their money into comics of this calibre but at the end of the day it's just another gamble but with higher stakes.
i had a small account with diamond back in the early 90s for a few years. had a few steady customers at a local flea market but got out of it, when it started looking more like a 2nd job than a hobby or whatever,. plus, there was a REAL market dump in the early 90s when people realized there weren't enough readers to support a production run of a million copies of x-men #1, (or you pick the title. many were over produced). fast forward 30 years, some of these books are worth some money. since there were never read, copies of spidey 361 in a 9.6, 9.8 are worth some money, so i started doing shows back in 2018 or 2019 or so. and the silver age i had, was worth grading, as well. i have bought a few books along the way, but only silver age. (my grandson is going to have a pretty cool collection). if prices go down, it would suck, but it has happened before and, as economist would put it, they would become sunk costs.
Thankfully that will never happen.
Sticky! You only Collect Comics for the Profit! Its all you go on about!
It won't. I've followed the market since 1969. Anybody else?
I'm just worried about Boomer generation being the death of comics, Classic Cars, guitars and even land, houses and well anything touched by a Boomer.
Only due to population 3:1 ratio.
I feel like your a bit bitter for loosing money, hell I’d be bitter too. Actually I’m in th same boat. Iv over paid for most of my slabs
I'm sure I'll get a lot of static for this but I'm just being honest I'm in it for a long-term investment I like buying Comics to hold on to for the Long Haul kind of like a stock market I'm not a day trader I am a long-term investment guy I don't read my Comics I just hold on to them just being honest I can see the other side of the coin most definite but I enjoy the rush of trying to find something of value and hope that it appreciates overtime
I need the number of those clowns with the ST I need a fing fang lol 😂😂😂😂
I have my retirement locked up in comics. My wife is going to leave me.
I’m like Nero playing the fiddle while watching the current comic book market “adjustment”. I can sympathize with people loosing value on their investments, but I’m gearing up for the books I’m going to pick up in the wake of this activity.
If you're looking to invest, you'd be better off buying Dogecoin than putting your money in comics. The rise in value is a happy side effect of collecting cool shit. Every day I walk into my office and see my top 15 books hanging on the wall, and every day they make me smile because I'm so happy to have them. If I ever look at one of my wall books and don't feel pride in owning that book, its gotta go. If I flip through my slab box and don't say "hell yeah" to a book when I see it, then it should probably go. P&L doesn't matter with collecting, its the joy in owning a high grade TMNT #1, or an early Spider-man, or whatever floats your boat. Yeah, I have books that would be a loss if I sold, but I just look at that as an opportunity to upgrade my copy without breaking the bank. Let those prices drop....
Grading hasnt helped to keep prices where they should be either. If someone is willing to pay more for a graded copy versus a raw book in the same grade is crazy.
I consider myself a reader even before being a collector!
I PC Peyton Manning football cards. I am new to comics,but they are very similar when it comes to value fluctuating. I have been watching Silver Surfer cgc slabbed books. Most are down 1-3k over the last 2 years. I always buy at lows or a consistent level. When i see drastic swings in price,i stay away. If something goes up 50%+ in a manner of weeks.....Run 😅
Any advice to sell raws? Trying to get rid of most of my collection
Proto-type Doctor Doom? Damn man….
just like all those condominiums built everywhere and bloody expensive,i hope them all price crash too
Can’t wait to see these overpriced books at heroescon
Thankfully my taste in comic is usually in the Dollar bin 😅
#troll
You bought those books at the highest point and were tickled like a school girl getting a letter from her crush…..you bought very high but you made money on your cgc 3.0 gxm 1 then when prices corrected less than 2 years after you purchase books sell them and complain? If you look at prices on true key books yes the price during the boom is down but they are still up by at least 20% or more since pre boom so🤷♂️ if you paid high prices at the boom hold the books unless you are desperate I assure you the majority of real key grail books will rise maybe not as fast as 2021 spikes but a gradual increase. If you buy at the highest of highs low grade books and sell as the price corrects in 2 years ….you can’t cry about it. I’ve collected comics since 1991 as an 11 year old I saw the crash of 96 yet nothing went to zero and marvel was bankrupt…the hobby will always flourish its not going away and if you spent big during 2021 be patient and don’t sweat it because the data is readily available that true big key books have always increased in value and 2021 was a once in a lifetime pandemic and caused a bunch of guys that paid for example4000 for a book 4 months earlier was like 1500. I’m not knocking this guy but look back at his videos he jumped on a bandwagon and paid outrageous prices and then sold super fast….people that have been in the hobby for a substantial amount of time knew 2021 wasn’t going to last and once again that comes from knowledge of data etc. It’s a hobby I like high grade grails cgc 8.0 and above and yeah at peak covid prices they went nuts but I enjoy my collection and they still are going up so just enjoy the hobby and do and collect what you like 🤷♂️ I spend my money on what I want and I’m going to continue to do so.
Aren't you scared when the boomers die that their collections will flood the market and the future generations not wanting them, therefore they become worthless?
I am 25, turning 26. I can name 3 people around my age group that collect comics and nowhere near how much I do. I do spend my money within the hobby to keep the hobby funded without spending my 9-5 job money or my investment (IRA, S&P 500, Gold etc).
I think spending money within reason for any hobby is good and helps your mental state.
@@Blacksheepcomics absolutely not super heroes will always exist and followed generation to generation. Comic cons are booming and we all yearn for childhood things, memories and sometimes even losing a parent you go for nostalgia. I think if you look at the history of comic books the hobby it’s withstood the seduction of the innocence debacle and backlash, the early 90s super crash in which marvel went bankrupt, the COVID pandemic showed that when the economy is good and people have extra income comic books and sports cards will thrive… People find out about my collection and ask questions it triggers their inner child and how cool it is to buy something that triggers a memory of a special time in life and voilà they are hooked. With video games ,movies,animation etc comic books will always have an audience…..unlike other hobbies superheroes never age ,never retire and live on forever in some form of media. I love the expression on peoples faces when they see the first appearance of an A list superhero 🤷♂️
You’re paying too much!
You are dipping closely into a No True Scotsman fallacy. He's a different kinda of collector. So what. It doesn't make him fake. He's just not the same kind of collector that you are. And guess what? That's okay. You do you.
Love sandman one of my favorites
Lmao that means your down big buying high buying hype h sad strange little world my thing is collecting or investor doesn’t matter same difference you have to collect to sell have to sell to collect you make no sense just be happy for people so you just waist your money then my account is open to deposits..
Rudy from Alpha Investments is the worst.
You going to be at heroescon?
Huh This video was posted in 1994? This has happened before and it will happen again. Also Stickygoose why do you post in front of alot of Slabs?
No need trying to define people like you do. Relax.