Earlier today we were talking about this exact thing. A co-worker related that she was in a grocery store recently and she was in the chicken dept. There was a man there also looking. He was checking all the packaging and could not find one cheap enough that he could afford. She approached him, offered to pay for some chicken for him and he declined saying he would work it out somehow. He left without getting any chicken. When she had gotten up to the cash register, the man was there paying for the things that he did have. A couple that was ahead of him apparently had witnessed the conversation, bagged up 3 bags of grocery paid for them and deposited these three bags into this mans grocery cart and stated that nobody should go hungry in the this country. That is absolute goodness! Often i will do this too, though not quite as generous at the couple did. One gentleman, after i paid for his groceries, stated that he was 80 years old and no one had ever done anything like that for him before. I am an atheist but first I am a person, that sometimes get a moment to help out another person, regardless of their belief system, or politics. Not to make me feel good but to make the person feel good.
For every example like that, you have hundreds if not thousands of people that will do everything in their power to hurt others, whether it's for greed, power trips, deluded ideologies or plain psychopathy. In my opinion, the only thing that keeps people in check is fear of punishment by the law. I often think about how when some big disaster happens, like it was case with hurricane Katrina, you immediately have lootings, crime, rape and such. Not to mention horrible atrocities commited in every war in history. When they think they can get away with it, people will do all kinds of horrible deeds. If you look at the history of humankind, it's a long, unbroken chain of wars, power struggle and infliction of suffering on your fellow human beings. There's flashes of cooperation here and there, but for the most part, people always subjugated those that were "not their tribe". There was always some group of people hellbent of reducing rights of other group of people. Just look at the world today, when we were supposed to leave barbaric mentality of dark ages behind long ago. Untold millions suffering from the hands of their fellow human beings. Let's not even start with what we are doing to the animals and nature. There's always exceptions to this, there are always genuinely good and noble people, good Samaritans, so to say. But on the whole, humanity is a cancer on the face of the Earth. We really are mustache-twirling villains who are evil for the sake of being evil.
That's kind of you! I'm semi-retired and been working part time at a local grocery store since 2016( bagging groceries, organizing carts, janitorial, etc). Gives me something to do (don't need extra cash). Food insecurity is real (grown worse since the pandemic). Witnessing middle class people (many of whom I've known for years) struggling to afford groceries, which wasn't common prior to pandemic, is sad. Witnessing people struggle feeding their children is especially heart breaking (often have to go into the restroom because I get emotional). Don't know what the answer is! but humankind (politics and beliefs aside) can do better than this, imo.
@@kevinmichael9482 So you have seen this first hand. I would be in that restroom also because i also would get emotional. Hopefully we can all do a part and make things better for others, for humankind (as you say!) and get beyond our petty beliefs and politics and reach out a hand. Have you (not just you)ever seen someone, say, fall and you went to help them up but first asked them their beliefs? Hopefully not. Kevinmichael have a good holiday season.
@@drazen1972cro I understand what you are saying, but why cant we do what is necessary on our own little corners. Yes there is many humans suffering from what other humans are doing to them, but that does not give us a pass.
@@stephanieguile9072 Humans are indeed suffering all over the place. Much of that suffering is _built into the systems of the world, and we need to focus on that too._ But that doesn't mean we shouldn't also do what we can to ameliorate the suffering right in front of us.
Thank you so much, Seth! I've been struggling with this for a long time, but I have hope in how humanity can cooperate to make this a more equal and emphatic world.
Seth, I loved this! So true. I thought you were talking about another study just done. Researchers call, you flip a coin, if you get heads, you win a good gift card to a major store, like Wamart, Tails you lose. They weren't shocked to find, people were honest. It broke even, as coin tosses always do. Even totally 'secret' , half the people said , "no, I got Tails, thankyou!" Most of business distrust came from the same man who coined 'manager'! A corporate tycoon who sort of started the whole belief that workers are untrustworthy! And it became standardized. From the beginning of industry. 👍💙💖🥰✌
A simply beautiful (one-man) conversation. Seth you have a precious mind, and a warm "heart." I so much appreciate "the who that you are" and that you take the time and effort to share yourself with all of us. THANK YOU!! You make a difference for me, and I am sure countless others ....
"In this hurting world, being a billionaire is immoral." - Seth Andrews, Dec. 2022 This needs to be understood for what it literally means. The lack of compassion, empathy, altruism of those in this camp is evident.
@@DRayL_ Iirc, we allow a handful of people on this planet to own more wealth than half of the rest. Money = power coupons, mind you. Meaning that amount of wealth is _also_ political power, and it's not accountable to anyone.
@@grmpEqweer The vast wealth of those top people....in reality, is worthless. When it is horded and never used, it in effect has no value at all. It just speaks to the greed and arrogance of the person who hoards it.
Good is so common that it's invisible... But I did have an experience the other that really hit me... I'm been extremely ill and literally have only left my home maybe a handful of times in the last 3 years... Well I finally got out and actually had some free time... And I had my good friend with we... And we were having a grand old time... Now I'm an extremely loud person to begin with... And I was really enjoying the sunshine and laughing my head off and having a genuinely good time... Twice already that day I had been complimented on my laughter... And right before I headed home I was still whopping it up and a woman walk by and my laughter made her smile... And then she said something that literally struck me... She said "it's so nice to hear someone laughing... You never hear that anymore..." It broke my heart and returned just a bit of my faith in humanity... True heros require neither honor or praise... Nor do they seek it... Their only wish... Is to offer a Glimmer of hope... During trying times... To those that find themselves lost in the Darkness...
There’s an organization promoting this type of philosophy called Freedom or something and a Australian named Jeremy Griffith? Not sure of those names but they are close
Seth, you are an inherently good people. Really. Listening to you, no matter the subject, always improves my day. Happy Holidays to you and your family, my good man. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas season!
It has been shown that our primate relatives have empathy and practice cooperation in countless ways. We are born to collaborate, communicate, and empathize...with a sizable but minor balance of selfishness and greed. Our species could not have done as well as it has without some basic recognizance of the humanity of others.
What is so telling to me about that study with the people turning in the wallets is two-fold: Well, it does give me hope for the future of humanity, that the overwhelming majority of people turned the wallet in, but it also shows that the selfish minority who kept the wallets are generally the type of people who desire to game the system, climb their way to positions of influence and structures of power, so they can steal everything that isn’t nailed down. That is the entire problem right there, where the majority of people don’t care about power and ruling over others, their apathy and ignorance allows the greedy minority to exploit them for personal gain, and hide behind a phony “morality” to justify their greed and bigotry.
I dunno. It would be super interesting to get the demographics of those who would keep the wallet or money. How many were desperate, how many were greedy?
The good people far outnumber the bad. It's easy to imagine a world where the opposite is true. The problem is many of the bad don't know it or worse, think they're good.
I think people are both capable of immense goodwill and immense cruelty. What they choose though is base on how their circumstances shape them, how tribalistic they end up being, and their immediate emotional state (see "basic attribution error").
We have to be. The very concept of being good is our own. My personal disappointment with humanity has nothing to do with morality. I despair over humanity's unwillingness to embrace scientific reality in the face of its own demise.
I like to say that we are going to become extinct. we are going to be staring death straight in the face and we will become extinct because we will be too busy arguing over who is going pay to save us ( as if money would matter at that point) ( it also just seems to fit into how ridiculous society is today that is reflected in this ridiculous statement )
@@o0o-jd-o0o95 "we are going to become extinct." That's inevitable. I just don't want to be around to see it coming. I wish people were arguing over who is going to pay to save us. I worry that those with all the money don't think the bill has to be paid.
Even though I know your entire philosophy rests on the fact that people ARE inherently good, this time, although I agree with the outrage on every level, I couldn’t tell where you were going with this one. But after listening to you for so long I should have known. When we brought our two godchildren back to the US to live with us from Haiti both at 10 years old we were gently but clearly open with them about our opinions of religion and fundamentalism of all kinds. I’m an artist and my partner is a journalist. I did not spend many years working in a remote part of Haiti as a missionary ( yikes!) but as an artist teaching women in our village to make and sell their artisan work. My experience led me deeply into my Haitian friends daily lives as well as the country’s history, culture and religious practices which were primarily Vodou, and Catholicism forced on enslaved Africans by the French. No one offended and outraged me as much as the flood of evangelicals, mostly from the southern US , ripping through the country’s vital traditions with such condescension, misogyny and fear mongering. I’ve seen them infiltrating all over the world. My godkids were too young to remember much of either religion but at age 15 a woman they were working for in town befriended and then began taking them to “youth group” meetings at her evangelical church. She’d slip them bibles and “teen novels” that slyly referred them back to scripture. My partner and I visited their boss at some point to confront some of things we thought the church were telling the girls. We live in Massachusetts in a place where many of our friends and family the girls are closest to are gay or Jewish or Buddhists or practicing spiritual paths of their own. Their boss, white, blonde, cheery, openly if apologetically admitted all of those friends and family as well as he and I were going to hell if they didn’t repent of their ways and take JC as their personal savior. We asked in no uncertain terms for her to NOT TO involve our kids in her church. ESPECIALLY as they were big on original sin, preached that the Bible was inerrant and that there is one and only skinny path to gods love. What we didn’t say but felt was that as an almost all white congregation our brown children were exotic prizes, examples of their generous “diversity.” The girls were okay with that interference of ours but about a year later church things started showing up again at our home and one of the girls has taken a full blown fall into the cult. This bright, sparkling, compassionate, deep thinking child ( now 20) from a chaotic early life and clearly in need of no surprises has given up theater, dancing, singing, laughing. She reads only the Bible, is revolted by anything sexual or even sensual and secretly is terrified we are all going to hell. She chose a university far away because it had the word Christian in its name, left because she found it not Christian enough and has applied to another very fundamentalist Christian school openly proud of itself for not obeying anti- discrimination laws. We told her though we’d help her with living expenses we couldn’t morally give money to such a school. She expected us to say that and is working to earn it herself. I love this child so much it hurts. And I can’t bear that someone with a soul so fine has bought into and is convinced she is born sinful and unworthy of the love God is dangling in front of her. She trusts me enough to let me challenge some of her “beliefs” which has led me down paths I’d thought I’d never go including reading the Bible and finding people like Bart Ehrman, Drew The Genetically Modified Atheist and above all you, whose frustration, knife-like humor ( oh! The Christmas story!!) and such articulate intelligence, keeps me sane. So this whole long story just to say: DON’T Stop. Please.
I think people are neither bad nor good. I think people react to their circumstance. People who have had stable lives and good luck are more likely to be stable in more circumstances than those who have been abused and unlucky but given the right conditions anyone can be capable of extreme behaviour be it good or bad.
What didn’t seem to get traction last month was news that Ron Desantis, whilst working as a JAG lawyer at Gitmo used his position as a human right lawyer to determine what ill treatment the inmates complained about most to make sure they received more of that treatment
@@kellydalstok8900 I badly explained that. He was a human rights lawyer sent into gitmo to talk to prisoners about what they thought were an abuse of their human rights. He collected information about what the detainees found the most unbearable and then had the guards do more of that. That’s pretty fucking excremental. At least excrement contains gut bacteria that was useful to the organism’s digestion.
People are inherently people. We contain multitudes. The person capable of stunning generosity and kindness in one instance is just as capable of selfishness and hatred in another.
Not long ago I started to ask myself this question who is more evil adults or children? And I honestly could be very wrong but I started to lean towards children. ( children being anyone under 20yo. )The reason was I was watching an episode of FBI files and this poor lady's 8 year old daughter was kidnapped. And I guess she was waiting for the guy to call about a ransom or something. This poor lady is devastated. The phone rings and she picks it up and she thinks she's talking to her daughter. it turned out it was just some teenage girl pranking the mother about the whole situation. How evil can you be that you would prank call some lady ,who's 8 year old daughter was kidnapped, just as a joke? ( I also understand that there's a chance that this young person does not have the experience to know what it might feel like to have a daughter kidnapped )
Kids often do absolutely horrible things. They have poor impulse control because their brains are not developed. Looking back on some of the amazingly bad things i did and horrible decisions i made as a kid and i'm surprised that i am still alive and didn't kill anyone.
@@cullenarthur8879 you're right, that's a good point. I guess that's part of the reason why penalizing kids is a slippery slope. And This is why I am still hesitant to say that they're more evil than adults but wow they can do some evil stuff whether they know better or not. Maybe my issue lies in the fact that I'm not so shocked at what adults do anymore but when a kid does something like that it's still pretty shocking to me especially making a prank phone call to this poor lady whose daughter was kidnapped and was essentially killed
People are inherently selfish, good or bad depends on your point of view. Some people just think they need more stuff than others and they "deserve" more.
Being selfish helps to keep you and yours alive . . .in certain circumstances and to a certain degree. There is a point beyond which you are no longer trying to keep yours and yourself safe. What it is beyond that point, I cannot say with any certainty but I assume it starts with GR and ends with EED!
I would hazard a guess that those who voted for MTG and Boobert were voting for the R next to the candidates name. I wonder how a chia pet would have fared in their stead?
Nowadays that's like asking was Australapithicus inherently good? Gigantopithicus? Neanderthals? We're animals that evolved our way into sentience, still driven to survive above all else as animals do. I'd say Humanity is a answer to the question, what happens if a carbon based life form gets itself a limbic system and with it higher thinking and consciousness. I'd say it comes with disastrous results as our capacity for Altruism and Cruelty is visible but throughout history our Cruelty is what wins out 80-90% of the time.
Unfortunately I only think people are inherently good if their basic needs are met. Which isn't how the world works and not how most of the population lives. Otherwise survival takes priority, of self, or of bloodline. AND EVEN THEN, there's a limit, if your needs are met TOO MUCH then people begin to forget others. And beyond that, a lot of people are only good when it benefits them, and often times it doesn't. I firmly believe that if people were inherently good, then the world wouldn't be as painful as it is.
I love this question, my take on it is . NO, people are not inherently good, they aren’t inherently bad either. However, in a philosophical framing, id say humans lean more so towards inherently bad. Why? From religion, to social contracts and laws , these ideas, doctrine, and concepts were all created to keep one thing in check, our nature. And to encourage behaviors that are beneficial to self and others, as well as reduce or prevent those behaviors we deem unpleasant. Behaviors some often call “animalistic, uncivilized, etc”. You can also say one of the biggest societal burdens we all face is being a“ good person”, and all modern societies have the same core ideas of what that is. Growing up, we all have to learn how to keep our nature in check. The nature that drives greed, anger, etc. we learn to suppress our opportunistic desires, think through our displeasures,and see our own image in others, an in effort to grow empathy and compassion. Or so we try are hardest to do so. Our nature gone uncheck fosters people who cant live amongst the societal ideas of good weve created. Now of course, this only matters if your definitions and ideas around whats good and bad align with that of todays societies of course. Which Id like think most of not all of us agree on. Ps: of course our “nature” has it benefits. But weve come long distance away from those days. But I also believe hunter gather types had similar social ideas and concepts of what was accepted or not.
In an inclusively opposing and conflicting (positive/negative), creative/destructive universe....made from the ongoing interactions and reactions of unstable (positive and negative) energy and materials....It unfortunately guarantees that all things within it will naturally fluctuate between those opposing extremes....with equally positive ane negative outcomes! Therefore we are not initially good or bad ...but in fact are innately both.
I think it would be way better if the news was filled with constant scientific breakthroughs and new discoveries in space, but that isn't going to happen as long as bigotry, religion, and dangerous stupidity hinder us
Fear and chaos sells. Mainstream news is exactly the way it is by design. There are breakthroughs and good news everyday. But that's not for the mainstream mode.
Space is fine! I want to hear more positive scientific breakthroughs and discoveries regarding Mother Earth, e.g., plastic in Oceans, overpopulation, fighting poverty and hunger, etc..
Being selfish helps to keep you and yours alive . . .in certain circumstances and to a certain degree. There is a point beyond which you are no longer trying to keep yours and yourself safe. What it is beyond that point, I cannot say with any certainty but I assume it starts with GR and ends with EED!
I think people are a mixture of good and bad. Left to themselves they do what they have to do to survive like any other animal species. Christians label those survival techniques as 'sin'.
No. We need to be taught right from wrong and it doesn't always sink in. We aren't born immoral either but a blank slate. A determinant depends on what is written on that slate by one's environment.
Are people inherently good? The question is poorly conceived. Empathy is a part of the human psyche. Any sane person feels it. Malice is not an inherently human trait. Its presence is a sign of imbalance - a deviation from true sanity. Selfishness is inherent in us as well, so you could ask if empathy or selfishness has dominance. That's a more relevant question. And I don't know the answer to that. I suspect that it's affected by circumstance. Different people prioritize differently. But trying to empirically determine that is not easy - maybe not even possible. Why not? Because almost half the world really is not sane after all. So don't worry about how much good there is in the world. Worry about how to increase the amount of sanity in the world.
Like all primates, we have an innate sense of Justice/fairness, we are innately tribal too. Those attributes make us both empathetic and loving to some while feeling justified to be cruel to others. Struggling for resources to survive while watching others wallow in excess does nothing to enhance a harmonious society. Lots of us are giving but we aren’t making much of a dent in the problem of others feelings of unfair neglect, lack of basic human dignity with enough opportunity to lift themselves up. I listened to this as I was reading the local news headlines. Those who have a comfortable life, like me, know many in our community are hurting. They don’t just need us to hand them money or things. They need to find a pathway to self respect and personal dignity as well. Those who are stealing from others feel justified because they feel cheated in life and can’t respect themselves or others who have when they have not. What is the solution? IMO it would mean our society completely revamp our penal system so that those who come out of it can feel they have the skills to truly be a valued member of our society instead of being shunned and left with no opportunity but to return to a criminal life to survive. Our society is suffering from a severe deficit of mental healthcare and a continued stigma about it. Will we humans ever have a perfectly harmonious society? No. We will always be subject to our primate ancestors’ nature.
Haven't had the chance to listen yet but I'll chime in: Are ppl inherently good?-- NO! Have you not met any humans? When left on their own they create vicious gods, torment each other and kill everything in their path. Glad I'm a lizard shape-shifter from the planet claire🤣
I believe so for the most part but I have found that people that don’t have empathy for others are typical Republicans. The rest of us care about others so therefore I think the majority are very good and most Republican regular people are still really good people as well. There’s a small group that are truly just bad jail types plus this country has created thousands of broken service people and it’s to bad they don’t try to fix them before turning loose.
Instead of angst, let's use science. In 2013 Professor Ropke of Charite University in Berlin and his research team found via magnetic resonance imaging that pathological narcissists have less gray matter in their left anterior insula. In 2017 a study performed on prisoners by the University of Wisconsin-Madidon researchers found that the prisoners diagnosed as psychopaths have "reduced connections between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex...and the amygdala". Further from the med wisc edu/news website: "The study, published in the most recent Journal of Neuroscience, builds on earlier work by Newman and Koenigs that showed that psychopaths' decision-making mirrors that of patients with known damage to their ventromedial prefrontal cortex...This bolsters evidence that problems in that part of the brain are connected to the disorder." "The decision-making study showed indirectly what this study shows directly - that there is a specific brain abnormality associated with criminal psychopathy," Koenigs adds." For further information also see a 2022 study mentioning a significant difference in another part of psychopaths' brains, titled "Larger striatal volume is associated with increased adult psychopathy" by Olivia Choy, Adrian Raine and Robert Schug, 6 March 2022, Journal of Psychiatric Research. This unfortunately does NOT explain how and why cult mentalities spread through a population like a virus and appear to arrogate its victims' emotional minds while disabling their abilities to think critically and logically.
Yes, I do 💯 believe all humans, like all animals of and from the Earth are inherently good. It's the curse of our alleged intelligence that allows people to grow into bad/evil people based on our inability to accept differences. Okay, it's a bit deeper than that, but you get the general idea for where I'm going with that, yes?
Before Constantine, Gnostic thought prevailed. Gnostic Cosmology says the Old Testament God was a result of errant emanations of Sophia creating Ialdaboath (Yahweh) who designed us with only a part of the true God (spark of life) in us, but only because he could not completely deprive us of the God above God. So, according to Gnostic thought, we are inherently good. Does that work for you folks? Read the Nag Hammadi Gnostic Gospels. Fascinating stuff, but real? Don't know, will have to ask Plato.
We are all descended from Noah, who was a just man and perfect in his generations. And he found grace in the Lord's eyes, which explains why Noah was saved from the flood. Therefore we also, having inherited our genes from Noah, must also be perfect (Gen.6).
There was no flood as described in the bible. Which Lord did he find grace with? What does ‘perfect in his generations’ mean, and why do you believe in fairy tales?
There is no original sin! We are not innately bad, but the opposite - we are innately good. But we have an Ego that causes us to see ourselves as separate, lacking and at odds with life and others, at odds with (Unconditional) Love - so we behave badly. But we are not bad! We are mistaken, we just misunderstand life. Ego misperceives life! Ego is also the challenge we have been given that must be dethroned for us to find our way back home to (Unconditional) Love. Ego is also behind all of our lessons and growth, and therefore, serves our evolution. Everyone has an Ego, and it is not of (Unconditional) Love! Ego is also not evil, although it is behind all acts we would consider evil. Ego is not a thing or an entity, it is just programming to care number one. This programming causes us to be selfish, self-centered, fearful, suspicious, defensive and aggressive. Ego is a false sense of self, not something real or true. A false sense of self is nothing tangible, nothing that cannot be fairly easily overlooked - if its lack of realness is pointed out. Ego is programming that causes us to see life, ourselves and others through a particular lens - one tainted by fear, judgment, limitation, smallness and a sense of lack. Ego creates a sense of being attacked or threatened by others and by life. Ego is always fearful, therefore, divorced from (Unconditional) Love. This fear is an illusion, an imagination of something fearful in the future - not based on a actual threat in the here and now. When we are identified with this very primitive part of ourselves, we believe in the reality of Ego and try to protect ourselves in any way we can - usually by trying to attain more wealth, comfort, power, security, control, success, popularity and admiration - all things that make Ego safer, at least temporarily.
I (TruthRevealer) challenge Seth Andrews to prove his statement “is demonstratively wrong, but have been long refuted.” To prove this Seth has to tell me how morals came into existence. This is link to the Christian quote Seth made 5 minutes and 38 seconds into this video.
Are people inherently good? No, people are predators, animals who exploit the environment & consume other animals it’s not possible for us to be inherently good as long as we’re doing that but we can be locally good & that’s what will enable us to do better in the future
On average people are neither good or bad to begin with. They become good or bad through upbringing and environmental factors. There are of course exceptions.
Hate me all you want...but I would have answer to the following: prove that the Southern Judahs not the northern Israelites are the chosen people? Archeology disproves the repopulation by Assyria lines in the tanakh, as the people's of the hills were not dislocated, but are the Samaritans (and thus the southern notion that they are outsiders that converted and corrupted but Southern spurious propaganda). They claim the prophets and writings are but added corruptions as the more "modern" jews claim the gospels are further corruption. Yes they may have added lines to the Torah claiming further their mountain is the more holy site, but both share in the distinction otherwise as their mountain being the blessed mountain. (omg we are arguing over mountain peaks). So, could someone please prove to me, or at least give me good argument, as to which are the actual chosen people of God? [And please don't just refer back to the writings and prophets material, as they would make same argument you do against Christians.] Thank you
Are People Inherently Good? Surely they are neither, actions are decided by one's needs, culture, aspirations, physical security and genetic makeup etc. When taking any of these into consideration an individual is just about capable of anything, just like any other animal!
Even if they still act nice, I feel it’s still just an act. When you vote for people to harm others and then say that it’s not your fault, you are not nice.
You aren't necessarily wrong but you are basing your response on circumstances. The question is based on inherent traits not learned traits ... we humans are not born as anything but an empty shell that is moulded over our lifetime based on circumstances. We are animals of the Earth. No animal on this planet is evil inherently. I do however believe our so-called intelligence is a curse that allows us to become evil. Otherwise, we'd be content and generally good no differently than any other animal
Good and bad. Some people are jerks and enjoy being jerks. If most people have their needs met (if they are well fed, clothed and sheltered, then they will be more altruistic. If they are lacking these things, it becomes a lot more dog eat dog).
Earlier today we were talking about this exact thing. A co-worker related that she was in a grocery store recently and she was in the chicken dept. There was a man there also looking. He was checking all the packaging and could not find one cheap enough that he could afford. She approached him, offered to pay for some chicken for him and he declined saying he would work it out somehow. He left without getting any chicken. When she had gotten up to the cash register, the man was there paying for the things that he did have. A couple that was ahead of him apparently had witnessed the conversation, bagged up 3 bags of grocery paid for them and deposited these three bags into this mans grocery cart and stated that nobody should go hungry in the this country. That is absolute goodness! Often i will do this too, though not quite as generous at the couple did. One gentleman, after i paid for his groceries, stated that he was 80 years old and no one had ever done anything like that for him before. I am an atheist but first I am a person, that sometimes get a moment to help out another person, regardless of their belief system, or politics. Not to make me feel good but to make the person feel good.
For every example like that, you have hundreds if not thousands of people that will do everything in their power to hurt others, whether it's for greed, power trips, deluded ideologies or plain psychopathy. In my opinion, the only thing that keeps people in check is fear of punishment by the law. I often think about how when some big disaster happens, like it was case with hurricane Katrina, you immediately have lootings, crime, rape and such. Not to mention horrible atrocities commited in every war in history. When they think they can get away with it, people will do all kinds of horrible deeds. If you look at the history of humankind, it's a long, unbroken chain of wars, power struggle and infliction of suffering on your fellow human beings. There's flashes of cooperation here and there, but for the most part, people always subjugated those that were "not their tribe". There was always some group of people hellbent of reducing rights of other group of people. Just look at the world today, when we were supposed to leave barbaric mentality of dark ages behind long ago. Untold millions suffering from the hands of their fellow human beings. Let's not even start with what we are doing to the animals and nature.
There's always exceptions to this, there are always genuinely good and noble people, good Samaritans, so to say. But on the whole, humanity is a cancer on the face of the Earth. We really are mustache-twirling villains who are evil for the sake of being evil.
That's kind of you!
I'm semi-retired and been working part time at a local grocery store since 2016( bagging groceries, organizing carts, janitorial, etc). Gives me something to do (don't need extra cash). Food insecurity is real (grown worse since the pandemic).
Witnessing middle class people (many of whom I've known for years) struggling to afford groceries, which wasn't common prior to pandemic, is sad.
Witnessing people struggle feeding their children is especially heart breaking (often have to go into the restroom because I get emotional).
Don't know what the answer is! but humankind (politics and beliefs aside) can do better than this, imo.
@@kevinmichael9482 So you have seen this first hand. I would be in that restroom also because i also would get emotional. Hopefully we can all do a part and make things better for others, for humankind (as you say!) and get beyond our petty beliefs and politics and reach out a hand. Have you (not just you)ever seen someone, say, fall and you went to help them up but first asked them their beliefs? Hopefully not. Kevinmichael have a good holiday season.
@@drazen1972cro I understand what you are saying, but why cant we do what is necessary on our own little corners. Yes there is many humans suffering from what other humans are doing to them, but that does not give us a pass.
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Humans are indeed suffering all over the place. Much of that suffering is _built into the systems of the world, and we need to focus on that too._
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't also do what we can to ameliorate the suffering right in front of us.
Thank you so much, Seth! I've been struggling with this for a long time, but I have hope in how humanity can cooperate to make this a more equal and emphatic world.
Thank you Seth for always bringing a unique perspective to today's issues.
Seth, I loved this! So true. I thought you were talking about another study just done. Researchers call, you flip a coin, if you get heads, you win a good gift card to a major store, like Wamart, Tails you lose. They weren't shocked to find, people were honest. It broke even, as coin tosses always do. Even totally 'secret' , half the people said , "no, I got Tails, thankyou!" Most of business distrust came from the same man who coined 'manager'! A corporate tycoon who sort of started the whole belief that workers are untrustworthy! And it became standardized. From the beginning of industry. 👍💙💖🥰✌
Psychopaths tend to believe that everyone else is just as treacherous as them.
A simply beautiful (one-man) conversation. Seth you have a precious mind, and a warm "heart." I so much appreciate "the who that you are" and that you take the time and effort to share yourself with all of us. THANK YOU!! You make a difference for me, and I am sure countless others ....
"In this hurting world, being a billionaire is immoral." - Seth Andrews, Dec. 2022
This needs to be understood for what it literally means. The lack of compassion, empathy, altruism of those in this camp is evident.
Are you saying we should have more compassion for billionaires?
@@grmpEqweer I may not have worded it well. Billionaires should have much more compassion, empathy, and altruism.
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...But if they had those qualities, _they would not be able to become billionaires._
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Iirc, we allow a handful of people on this planet to own more wealth than half of the rest. Money = power coupons, mind you.
Meaning that amount of wealth is _also_ political power, and it's not accountable to anyone.
@@grmpEqweer The vast wealth of those top people....in reality, is worthless. When it is horded and never used, it in effect has no value at all. It just speaks to the greed and arrogance of the person who hoards it.
I'm always extra cynical at this time of year but your videos help a lot. 😊
If I ran the world, no Xmas. Birthdays are nice though, just not Jesus'.
Good is so common that it's invisible...
But I did have an experience the other that really hit me... I'm been extremely ill and literally have only left my home maybe a handful of times in the last 3 years... Well I finally got out and actually had some free time... And I had my good friend with we... And we were having a grand old time... Now I'm an extremely loud person to begin with... And I was really enjoying the sunshine and laughing my head off and having a genuinely good time... Twice already that day I had been complimented on my laughter... And right before I headed home I was still whopping it up and a woman walk by and my laughter made her smile... And then she said something that literally struck me... She said "it's so nice to hear someone laughing... You never hear that anymore..." It broke my heart and returned just a bit of my faith in humanity...
True heros require neither honor or praise...
Nor do they seek it...
Their only wish...
Is to offer a Glimmer of hope...
During trying times...
To those that find themselves lost in the Darkness...
I’ve thought this for years now. We are hard wired with morality! We know instinctively we must get along to get along!
There’s an organization promoting this type of philosophy called Freedom or something and a Australian named Jeremy Griffith? Not sure of those names but they are close
Seth, you are an inherently good people. Really. Listening to you, no matter the subject, always improves my day.
Happy Holidays to you and your family, my good man. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas season!
Thank you Seth.....from another secular humanist. Great, true, and helpful message.
It has been shown that our primate relatives have empathy and practice cooperation in countless ways. We are born to collaborate, communicate, and empathize...with a sizable but minor balance of selfishness and greed. Our species could not have done as well as it has without some basic recognizance of the humanity of others.
I keep saying, if our species didn't mostly co-operate, we'd have ended up hyena chow.
We're not naturally anywhere near as competitive as this.
Thank you for pointing out how common it is for people to love and help each other. It so common that it isn’t news. It’s nice to hear that said.
Amen to everything you said, Seth!
Saying that Bobo has the IQ of a crouton is insulting to croutons.
What is so telling to me about that study with the people turning in the wallets is two-fold:
Well, it does give me hope for the future of humanity, that the overwhelming majority of people turned the wallet in, but it also shows that the selfish minority who kept the wallets are generally the type of people who desire to game the system, climb their way to positions of influence and structures of power, so they can steal everything that isn’t nailed down.
That is the entire problem right there, where the majority of people don’t care about power and ruling over others, their apathy and ignorance allows the greedy minority to exploit them for personal gain, and hide behind a phony “morality” to justify their greed and bigotry.
I dunno. It would be super interesting to get the demographics of those who would keep the wallet or money.
How many were desperate, how many were greedy?
The good people far outnumber the bad. It's easy to imagine a world where the opposite is true.
The problem is many of the bad don't know it or worse, think they're good.
I think people are both capable of immense goodwill and immense cruelty. What they choose though is base on how their circumstances shape them, how tribalistic they end up being, and their immediate emotional state (see "basic attribution error").
Thank you for this one Seth. I think this was a good reminder to everyone, me definitely included.
We have to be. The very concept of being good is our own.
My personal disappointment with humanity has nothing to do with morality. I despair over humanity's unwillingness to embrace scientific reality in the face of its own demise.
I like to say that we are going to become extinct. we are going to be staring death straight in the face and we will become extinct because we will be too busy arguing over who is going pay to save us ( as if money would matter at that point) ( it also just seems to fit into how ridiculous society is today that is reflected in this ridiculous statement )
@@o0o-jd-o0o95 "we are going to become extinct."
That's inevitable. I just don't want to be around to see it coming.
I wish people were arguing over who is going to pay to save us. I worry that those with all the money don't think the bill has to be paid.
Seth, thank you for calming my fears. You're gold. Keep on shining brother.
Even though I know your entire philosophy rests on the fact that people ARE inherently good, this time, although I agree with the outrage on every level, I couldn’t tell where you were going with this one. But after listening to you for so long I should have known.
When we brought our two godchildren back to the US to live with us from Haiti both at 10 years old we were gently but clearly open with them about our opinions of religion and fundamentalism of all kinds.
I’m an artist and my partner is a journalist. I did not spend many years working in a remote part of Haiti as a missionary ( yikes!) but as an artist teaching women in our village to make and sell their artisan work. My experience led me deeply into my Haitian friends daily lives as well as the country’s history, culture and religious practices which were primarily Vodou, and Catholicism forced on enslaved Africans by the French.
No one offended and outraged me as much as the flood of evangelicals, mostly from the southern US , ripping through the country’s vital traditions with such condescension, misogyny and fear mongering. I’ve seen them infiltrating all over the world.
My godkids were too young to remember much of either religion but at age 15 a woman they were working for in town befriended and then began taking them to “youth group” meetings at her evangelical church. She’d slip them bibles and “teen novels” that slyly referred them back to scripture.
My partner and I visited their boss at some point to confront some of things we thought the church were telling the girls.
We live in Massachusetts in a place where many of our friends and family the girls are closest to are gay or Jewish or Buddhists or practicing spiritual paths of their own.
Their boss, white, blonde, cheery, openly if apologetically admitted all of those friends and family as well as he and I were going to hell if they didn’t repent of their ways and take JC as their personal savior.
We asked in no uncertain terms for her to NOT TO involve our kids in her church.
ESPECIALLY as they were big on original sin, preached that the Bible was inerrant and that there is one and only skinny path to gods love.
What we didn’t say but felt was that as an almost all white congregation our brown children were exotic prizes, examples of their generous “diversity.”
The girls were okay with that interference of ours but about a year later church things started showing up again at our home and one of the girls has taken a full blown fall into the cult.
This bright, sparkling, compassionate, deep thinking child ( now 20) from a chaotic early life and clearly in need of no surprises has given up theater, dancing, singing, laughing. She reads only the Bible, is revolted by anything sexual or even sensual and secretly is terrified we are all going to hell.
She chose a university far away because it had the word Christian in its name, left because she found it not Christian enough and has applied to another very fundamentalist Christian school openly proud of itself for not obeying anti- discrimination laws.
We told her though we’d help her with living expenses we couldn’t morally give money to such a school. She expected us to say that and is working to earn it herself.
I love this child so much it hurts. And I can’t bear that someone with a soul so fine has bought into and is convinced she is born sinful and unworthy of the love God is dangling in front of her.
She trusts me enough to let me challenge some of her “beliefs” which has led me down paths I’d thought I’d never go including reading the Bible and finding people like Bart Ehrman, Drew The Genetically Modified Atheist and above all you, whose frustration, knife-like humor ( oh! The Christmas story!!) and such articulate intelligence, keeps me sane.
So this whole long story just to say:
DON’T Stop. Please.
This gives me hope. Thank you, Seth!
Thank you so very much, Seth!
Beautiful!
Happy Hogswatch to you and yours, Mr. Andrews.
We wish you a merry solstice 🪐, we wish you a merry solstice 🌏, we wish you a merry solstice 🏖⛄️, and a happy new year 🥂🌟. Thanks for all you do Seth!
Happy SolstiHannuKwanzaMas😋
Enjoyed listening to this session Mr. Andrews. Unsure about good or badness but fear appears universal.
"she has the IQ of a crouton" I don't put stock into IQ but that is a *great* insult that needs to be used more XD
I have used it now, a couple of times...with great results!!! THANKS, Seth!!😄
Toasted?
I don't believe that people copy those who are good. I believe they copy those who they view as socially successful.
I think people are neither bad nor good. I think people react to their circumstance. People who have had stable lives and good luck are more likely to be stable in more circumstances than those who have been abused and unlucky but given the right conditions anyone can be capable of extreme behaviour be it good or bad.
What didn’t seem to get traction last month was news that Ron Desantis, whilst working as a JAG lawyer at Gitmo used his position as a human right lawyer to determine what ill treatment the inmates complained about most to make sure they received more of that treatment
So, what happened that made him the piece of excrement he is today?
@@kellydalstok8900 I badly explained that. He was a human rights lawyer sent into gitmo to talk to prisoners about what they thought were an abuse of their human rights. He collected information about what the detainees found the most unbearable and then had the guards do more of that. That’s pretty fucking excremental. At least excrement contains gut bacteria that was useful to the organism’s digestion.
Depends on what side of the in-group/out-group bias one finds themselves on. "Good" is a subjective, changing, and moving target in the first place.
Simply: Thank you!
People are inherently people. We contain multitudes. The person capable of stunning generosity and kindness in one instance is just as capable of selfishness and hatred in another.
Not long ago I started to ask myself this question who is more evil adults or children? And I honestly could be very wrong but I started to lean towards children. ( children being anyone under 20yo. )The reason was I was watching an episode of FBI files and this poor lady's 8 year old daughter was kidnapped. And I guess she was waiting for the guy to call about a ransom or something. This poor lady is devastated. The phone rings and she picks it up and she thinks she's talking to her daughter. it turned out it was just some teenage girl pranking the mother about the whole situation. How evil can you be that you would prank call some lady ,who's 8 year old daughter was kidnapped, just as a joke? ( I also understand that there's a chance that this young person does not have the experience to know what it might feel like to have a daughter kidnapped )
Kids often do absolutely horrible things. They have poor impulse control because their brains are not developed. Looking back on some of the amazingly bad things i did and horrible decisions i made as a kid and i'm surprised that i am still alive and didn't kill anyone.
@@cullenarthur8879 you're right, that's a good point. I guess that's part of the reason why penalizing kids is a slippery slope. And This is why I am still hesitant to say that they're more evil than adults but wow they can do some evil stuff whether they know better or not. Maybe my issue lies in the fact that I'm not so shocked at what adults do anymore but when a kid does something like that it's still pretty shocking to me especially making a prank phone call to this poor lady whose daughter was kidnapped and was essentially killed
People are inherently selfish, good or bad depends on your point of view. Some people just think they need more stuff than others and they "deserve" more.
Exactly, people are inherently greedy and narcissistic
Being selfish helps to keep you and yours alive . . .in certain circumstances and to a certain degree. There is a point beyond which you are no longer trying to keep yours and yourself safe. What it is beyond that point, I cannot say with any certainty but I assume it starts with GR and ends with EED!
No. There continues to be horrific tragedies which are caused by those who claim to be religious or believe in a god.
No they are religious. Religious people can't only do good things.
Our basic nature is good, stories get in the way.
I would hazard a guess that those who voted for MTG and Boobert were voting for the R next to the candidates name. I wonder how a chia pet would have fared in their stead?
I always miss the bass-line in the introductory clip.
Nowadays that's like asking was Australapithicus inherently good? Gigantopithicus? Neanderthals?
We're animals that evolved our way into sentience, still driven to survive above all else as animals do.
I'd say Humanity is a answer to the question, what happens if a carbon based life form gets itself a limbic system and with it higher thinking and consciousness. I'd say it comes with disastrous results as our capacity for Altruism and Cruelty is visible but throughout history our Cruelty is what wins out 80-90% of the time.
Unfortunately I only think people are inherently good if their basic needs are met. Which isn't how the world works and not how most of the population lives. Otherwise survival takes priority, of self, or of bloodline. AND EVEN THEN, there's a limit, if your needs are met TOO MUCH then people begin to forget others. And beyond that, a lot of people are only good when it benefits them, and often times it doesn't. I firmly believe that if people were inherently good, then the world wouldn't be as painful as it is.
I believe generally, yes.
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I love this question, my take on it is . NO, people are not inherently good, they aren’t inherently bad either. However, in a philosophical framing, id say humans lean more so towards inherently bad. Why? From religion, to social contracts and laws , these ideas, doctrine, and concepts were all created to keep one thing in check, our nature. And to encourage behaviors that are beneficial to self and others, as well as reduce or prevent those behaviors we deem unpleasant. Behaviors some often call “animalistic, uncivilized, etc”.
You can also say one of the biggest societal burdens we all face is being a“ good person”, and all modern societies have the same core ideas of what that is.
Growing up, we all have to learn how to keep our nature in check. The nature that drives greed, anger, etc. we learn to suppress our opportunistic desires, think through our displeasures,and see our own image in others, an in effort to grow empathy and compassion. Or so we try are hardest to do so. Our nature gone uncheck fosters people who cant live amongst the societal ideas of good weve created.
Now of course, this only matters if your definitions and ideas around whats good and bad align with that of todays societies of course. Which Id like think most of not all of us agree on.
Ps: of course our “nature” has it benefits. But weve come long distance away from those days. But I also believe hunter gather types had similar social ideas and concepts of what was accepted or not.
I believe people are inherently good, it's just some have really bad ideas.
In an inclusively opposing and conflicting (positive/negative), creative/destructive universe....made from the ongoing interactions and reactions of unstable (positive and negative) energy and materials....It unfortunately guarantees that all things within it will naturally fluctuate between those opposing extremes....with equally positive ane negative outcomes!
Therefore we are not initially good or bad ...but in fact are innately both.
I think it would be way better if the news was filled with constant scientific breakthroughs and new discoveries in space, but that isn't going to happen as long as bigotry, religion, and dangerous stupidity hinder us
Fear and chaos sells. Mainstream news is exactly the way it is by design.
There are breakthroughs and good news everyday.
But that's not for the mainstream mode.
Space is fine! I want to hear more positive scientific breakthroughs and discoveries regarding Mother Earth, e.g., plastic in Oceans, overpopulation, fighting poverty and hunger, etc..
That's Margaine Tater Green Bean.
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After I have seen war, my answer would be: I don't know and probably I don't think so.
But then again that's just me.
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Just like in the song by Don Henley.....They all know that crap is king, they love dirty laundry.
Being selfish helps to keep you and yours alive . . .in certain circumstances and to a certain degree. There is a point beyond which you are no longer trying to keep yours and yourself safe. What it is beyond that point, I cannot say with any certainty but I assume it starts with GR and ends with EED!
I think people are a mixture of good and bad. Left to themselves they do what they have to do to survive like any other animal species. Christians label those survival techniques as 'sin'.
I think people are good to a certain extent but you can't trust everyone either.
Seth has a great voice. He should do an audio Bible like Charlton Heston did! Lol just kidding!!!
No. We need to be taught right from wrong and it doesn't always sink in. We aren't born immoral either but a blank slate. A determinant depends on what is written on that slate by one's environment.
This is the question I'm wrestling with the most right now. I'm struggling with cynicism.
Same. I'm basically a Humanist with no faith in humanity.
I’m a nihilist
Are people inherently good? The question is poorly conceived. Empathy is a part of the human psyche. Any sane person feels it. Malice is not an inherently human trait. Its presence is a sign of imbalance - a deviation from true sanity.
Selfishness is inherent in us as well, so you could ask if empathy or selfishness has dominance. That's a more relevant question. And I don't know the answer to that. I suspect that it's affected by circumstance. Different people prioritize differently. But trying to empirically determine that is not easy - maybe not even possible. Why not? Because almost half the world really is not sane after all. So don't worry about how much good there is in the world. Worry about how to increase the amount of sanity in the world.
Like all primates, we have an innate sense of Justice/fairness, we are innately tribal too. Those attributes make us both empathetic and loving to some while feeling justified to be cruel to others. Struggling for resources to survive while watching others wallow in excess does nothing to enhance a harmonious society. Lots of us are giving but we aren’t making much of a dent in the problem of others feelings of unfair neglect, lack of basic human dignity with enough opportunity to lift themselves up. I listened to this as I was reading the local news headlines. Those who have a comfortable life, like me, know many in our community are hurting. They don’t just need us to hand them money or things. They need to find a pathway to self respect and personal dignity as well. Those who are stealing from others feel justified because they feel cheated in life and can’t respect themselves or others who have when they have not. What is the solution? IMO it would mean our society completely revamp our penal system so that those who come out of it can feel they have the skills to truly be a valued member of our society instead of being shunned and left with no opportunity but to return to a criminal life to survive. Our society is suffering from a severe deficit of mental healthcare and a continued stigma about it. Will we humans ever have a perfectly harmonious society? No. We will always be subject to our primate ancestors’ nature.
People are inherently people. That's all I know for sure.
I have enough money to know I do not have enough money.
Haven't had the chance to listen yet but I'll chime in:
Are ppl inherently good?-- NO! Have you not met any humans? When left on their own they create vicious gods, torment each other and kill everything in their path. Glad I'm a lizard shape-shifter from the planet claire🤣
I believe so for the most part but I have found that people that don’t have empathy for others are typical Republicans. The rest of us care about others so therefore I think the majority are very good and most Republican regular people are still really good people as well. There’s a small group that are truly just bad jail types plus this country has created thousands of broken service people and it’s to bad they don’t try to fix them before turning loose.
If people were inherently good, there's no need for laws.
Instead of angst, let's use science. In 2013 Professor Ropke of Charite University in Berlin and his research team found via magnetic resonance imaging that pathological narcissists have less gray matter in their left anterior insula.
In 2017 a study performed on prisoners by the University of Wisconsin-Madidon researchers found that the prisoners diagnosed as psychopaths have "reduced connections between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex...and the amygdala". Further from the med wisc edu/news website: "The study, published in the most recent Journal of Neuroscience, builds on earlier work by Newman and Koenigs that showed that psychopaths' decision-making mirrors that of patients with known damage to their ventromedial prefrontal cortex...This bolsters evidence that problems in that part of the brain are connected to the disorder." "The decision-making study showed indirectly what this study shows directly - that there is a specific brain abnormality associated with criminal psychopathy," Koenigs adds."
For further information also see a 2022 study mentioning a significant difference in another part of psychopaths' brains, titled "Larger striatal volume is associated with increased adult psychopathy" by Olivia Choy, Adrian Raine and Robert Schug, 6 March 2022, Journal of Psychiatric Research.
This unfortunately does NOT explain how and why cult mentalities spread through a population like a virus and appear to arrogate its victims' emotional minds while disabling their abilities to think critically and logically.
Of course not.
Unless we have a seriously low bar in what counts as "good".
Yes, I do 💯 believe all humans, like all animals of and from the Earth are inherently good. It's the curse of our alleged intelligence that allows people to grow into bad/evil people based on our inability to accept differences. Okay, it's a bit deeper than that, but you get the general idea for where I'm going with that, yes?
People are inherently good AND evil. Which potential they enact is at least partly dependent on environment.
Who's cutting all those onions?
Wait - they couldn't shoot the dogs so they ate them?!?
Before Constantine, Gnostic thought prevailed. Gnostic Cosmology says the Old Testament God was a result of errant emanations of Sophia creating Ialdaboath (Yahweh) who designed us with only a part of the true God (spark of life) in us, but only because he could not completely deprive us of the God above God.
So, according to Gnostic thought, we are inherently good. Does that work for you folks? Read the Nag Hammadi Gnostic Gospels. Fascinating stuff, but real? Don't know, will have to ask Plato.
We are all descended from Noah, who was a just man and perfect in his generations.
And he found grace in the Lord's eyes, which explains why Noah was saved from the flood.
Therefore we also, having inherited our genes from Noah, must also be perfect (Gen.6).
There was no flood as described in the bible. Which Lord did he find grace with?
What does ‘perfect in his generations’ mean, and why do you believe in fairy tales?
There is no original sin!
We are not innately bad, but the opposite - we are innately good.
But we have an Ego that causes us to see ourselves as separate, lacking and at odds with life and others, at odds with (Unconditional) Love - so we behave badly.
But we are not bad!
We are mistaken, we just misunderstand life.
Ego misperceives life!
Ego is also the challenge we have been given that must be dethroned for us to find our way back home to (Unconditional) Love.
Ego is also behind all of our lessons and growth, and therefore, serves our evolution.
Everyone has an Ego, and it is not of (Unconditional) Love!
Ego is also not evil, although it is behind all acts we would consider evil.
Ego is not a thing or an entity, it is just programming to care number one.
This programming causes us to be selfish, self-centered, fearful, suspicious, defensive and aggressive.
Ego is a false sense of self, not something real or true.
A false sense of self is nothing tangible, nothing that cannot be fairly easily overlooked - if its lack of realness is pointed out.
Ego is programming that causes us to see life, ourselves and others through a particular lens - one tainted by fear, judgment, limitation, smallness and a sense of lack.
Ego creates a sense of being attacked or threatened by others and by life.
Ego is always fearful, therefore, divorced from (Unconditional) Love.
This fear is an illusion, an imagination of something fearful in the future - not based on a actual threat in the here and now.
When we are identified with this very primitive part of ourselves, we believe in the reality of Ego and try to protect ourselves in any way we can - usually by trying to attain more wealth, comfort, power, security, control, success, popularity and admiration - all things that make Ego safer, at least temporarily.
I (TruthRevealer) challenge Seth Andrews to prove his statement “is demonstratively wrong, but have been long refuted.” To prove this Seth has to tell me how morals came into existence. This is link to the Christian quote Seth made 5 minutes and 38 seconds into this video.
Are people inherently good? No, people are predators, animals who exploit the environment & consume other animals
it’s not possible for us to be inherently good as long as we’re doing that
but we can be locally good & that’s what will enable us to do better in the future
Are people inherently good? Yes but most people have different ideas about what is good.
On average people are neither good or bad to begin with. They become good or bad through upbringing and environmental factors. There are of course exceptions.
Hate me all you want...but I would have answer to the following: prove that the Southern Judahs not the northern Israelites are the chosen people? Archeology disproves the repopulation by Assyria lines in the tanakh, as the people's of the hills were not dislocated, but are the Samaritans (and thus the southern notion that they are outsiders that converted and corrupted but Southern spurious propaganda). They claim the prophets and writings are but added corruptions as the more "modern" jews claim the gospels are further corruption. Yes they may have added lines to the Torah claiming further their mountain is the more holy site, but both share in the distinction otherwise as their mountain being the blessed mountain. (omg we are arguing over mountain peaks). So, could someone please prove to me, or at least give me good argument, as to which are the actual chosen people of God? [And please don't just refer back to the writings and prophets material, as they would make same argument you do against Christians.] Thank you
You can tell Seth never worked retail XD.
Are People Inherently Good? Surely they are neither, actions are decided by one's needs, culture, aspirations, physical security and genetic makeup etc. When taking any of these into consideration an individual is just about capable of anything, just like any other animal!
Late to the video, but I would say no. People are inherently people.
I think people are inherently selfish.
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Agreed. Billionaire immoral.
No.
Good don't do because God is watching it's because they're watching.
..I think most believers are inherently bad
Even if they still act nice, I feel it’s still just an act. When you vote for people to harm others and then say that it’s not your fault, you are not nice.
Republicans…. proof of entropy in a closed system.
Humanity is a curse
well... if i find a poor persons wallet id be a dick if i took anything, but back to an erlier point. Elon Musks wallet?
Love you Seth but I hate the intro stuff.
Lol. No.
stop being so partisan, stop hating on DeSantis you sound angry lol
Yes. The ones that are "evil " are either psycopaths , sociopaths or experienced trauma and neglect as children .
You aren't necessarily wrong but you are basing your response on circumstances. The question is based on inherent traits not learned traits ... we humans are not born as anything but an empty shell that is moulded over our lifetime based on circumstances. We are animals of the Earth. No animal on this planet is evil inherently. I do however believe our so-called intelligence is a curse that allows us to become evil. Otherwise, we'd be content and generally good no differently than any other animal
Good and bad. Some people are jerks and enjoy being jerks. If most people have their needs met (if they are well fed, clothed and sheltered, then they will be more altruistic. If they are lacking these things, it becomes a lot more dog eat dog).
most are, some are not. Unfortunately those who are sociopaths screw things up for the rest of us.
yes unless they believe in god.