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And while a Finn I got no Finnish accent for English, it short of got lost in the US while I was there as an exchange student. XD But I wonder if there is something called Ralli-Ranska (Rally-French) because I sure as hell will gain back the dammed accent instantly trying to speak French - language I never studied - even though I do live in France as my husband is French. Don't ask me why he figures it's cute - but yea my tongue literally refuses to get down with the phonetics of this language - and I won't be learning any grammar either, unless someone manages to make me speak the darn alphabet in the words correctly, so that I could actually learn the example sentences... never mind ever getting to the point of being able to read it at all. Trouble being that phonetics are pretty much ignored when the lessons always jump directly into grammar. By now I am really bored to even try to find a suitable class. Bit sad honestly. I did wanted to learn, but the French also tend to be very much the kind to insist on speaking in French never mind if they know English or not, just to demand a foreigner to know their language instead. And they seem to have this strange point of view that only people who went to university will know English - which obviously must be some age old false memory or something. It is easier to run into English speaking French gamers online than to find them in France - so far. The government offices that handle matters about foreign people, equivalent to Kela (I am retired), have people with worse English skills than the man selling pizza from a truck at the street corner. I get along of course because my husband being one of those gamers (like me), happens to speak English and so does his son. Point being that at least I got two to translate, even if they aren't no phonetics or language teachers obviously. Yet that is it - rest of the family members barely do and live on the other side of the country anyways - and then we now also have Covid - soooooo - well now it is not even smart to try to find people who might. Not that I could even get that far from the flat on my own feet to start some short of a wide search while my darling is at work or something, given that I don't have very good feet to walk on. And this rant or complaint or what ever you wish to call it - I don't really hate the French language, but so far having tried to learn the language has just resulted to frustration really. Then again, do I really need to know the rest of them as well - not so sure. Perfectly happy with my small family, even if I cant even manage to speak enough French to call a taxi. Somehow the way I try to say the words just are not very understandable - lol.
I feel like he really really wanted to tell what happened, but his English wasn't good enough to describe it, so he decided to use all means possible to convey the message
As a Finnish guy, I think that us Finns often think too much about pronounciation when talking some foreign language. Then for example in English we become self-aware and embarrassed of our speaking style and many of us just resort to the safe rally-english pronounciation. But the world's full of weird English accents, so don't take too much pressure. The native speakers will be happy when you can speak at least some sort of English (they'll understand thick accents) and spare them the work of trying to learn Finnish
And in Finnish schools, pronounciation is a massive focus. So people in the back of their heads are reminded of "speak correctly or no one understands you" -type of studying.
I could agree to that because "Marcus Grönholm finlandssvensk rallyförare" thus belonging to the same family as English but still manages to speak it in a Finish way :D So to the Finish speaking Fins: Et kyl me ny ollaan sama kansa vaiks te ny huuatte meil V###n H###i...... ;)
In Dutch, the same thing is called "steenkolenengels": (stone) coal english. It comes from dock workers around the year 1900 who were trying to communicate with the English seamen on the coal boats. Nice to see it's a universal thing but with varying background stories. :DDD
In Sweden it's called Swenglish (Svengelska) because Swedish boomers are notorious for having shit English and just randomly throw in Swedish words that the foreign person has 0 chance of understanding ua-cam.com/video/LMi0gcr_ckQ/v-deo.html < a classic example
@@TurtleGamers1 that's quite funny, because with the internet becoming a big thing, many _young_ finnish people speak finglish which is just random words from both languages though they probably just skipped either their finnish or their english classes so they gotta bandaid their speaking with the other language
Don't get intimidated by Tuukkas' comment. Nobody will use that in real life in other cases but as a tongue twister or to scare off any foreign people 🤣 Grammar is logical with many rules. It is very different from others so that's a part of why it is considered a hard one to learn.
Moved to an English speaking country a couple of years ago and when people ask about my accent (in the context that my vocabulary and grammar clashes with my pronunciation :D ) I refer them to this.
Spanish guy living in Finland. I must to say that the english rally is in the same family that the "espanglis" we just read the english like spanish and sounds really close to rally english.
In finnish and Spanish actually the letters are pronounced almost same way, even though the language is not close. But i think both languages are pronounced like the "international phonetic alphabet" standard. When I listen Fernando Alonso speak, I find him saying R letter and other letters the same way than finns
Regarding English, I simply can’t comprehend how people can learn to speak “correct” English; Since I’m Russian, I can understand your pain when it comes to such sounds as “r”(it’s also hard in Russian, just like in Finnish) etc. Personally, I can speak with a very subtle accent for a short time, but after a while, I just get tired of twisting my tongue to nail the sounds and “slip” to my Russian accent.
I feel you (as a Finnish person). And I've also noticed that it varies from day to day how well my tongue will cooperate with me 😂 I don't get to speak English often and if I know that I'm going to, I try to do some "warm up", "tongue gymnastics" before. And I've noticed that it helps a lot actually.
I speak perfect British English as a Swedish speaker, but I do not know of many other Swedish speakers that can speak English without sounding like Complete Retard. It's for me really annoying, to hear my fellow men, who hasn't learned how to speak properly. And Kirill Prokopienko, you don't have to worry about your accent, the Russian accent at least sounds good, the Swedish accent in English sounds horrible. And as it's not Rally English, it's at least understandable. I rather a Finn spoke Swedish as we mostly have the same consonants as each other. But it is all about training, if you want to get good at speaking English, you need to listen to it often, so as to get used to the sounds, and to try to speak it often, and actually put in effort into learning to speak properly, after a while it becomes second nature. I for once can't even do the Swedish accent anymore, well I never could, I'm not stupid, I learned English just so that I wouldn't have to speak Swedish in the first place.
@@livedandletdie I've had my quite good British accent shift back into rally english because I've heard it sounds quirky, sometimes a bit Scottish, and understandable. So probably some tiny sense of national pride, since we're surrounded by condescending cunts, imperialists, Vikings, and Estonians.
Yeah exactly. I may speak perfect English for an hour or two per day, but over time I just get so exhausted that I end up sliding back into the rally territory. Luckily most foreigners have little issue parsing my accent, silly as it may sound to them.
this was very funny to learn about because in Norway we have Solberg English, which is exactly the same thing credited to just one rally driver: Petter Solberg because his Norwegian Rally English was just that legendary. There's apparently just something about rally driving that makes the language centre of your brain short circuit
I often times when im speaking english i just go with rally because when i try to speak with a "normal" english accent (american, british) i start speaking slowly and forgetting words and it feels much more natural with the finnish accent.
You just need to practice speaking and it will become much easier over time. But Rally English is one of the better ones in sense of comedic value. As someone living in Sweden, there's nothing funnier than jokes in Finnlandssvenska. My favourite joke is... Ole och Ivar var ute och gick i skogen, då såg de en arm, då sa Ole till Ivar, är inte det Pekkas arm? Jo det är det svarade Ivar. Sedan fortsatte de in en bit i skogen, och så såg de ett ben, då sa Ole till Ivar, är inte det Pekkas ben, jo det är det svarade Ivar, och så gick de en stund till, då plötsligt såg de ett huvud, då gick Ole fram och plockade upp huvudet och skrek, PEKKA PEKKA DU HAR SKADAT DIG! I love you guys over there in Finland, you're making the world a better place, unlike Swedes.
A Finland-Swede walked into a restaurant and ordered a take-away pizza. When the pizza was ready, the salesman asked: "Would you like your pizza sliced up in six or eight pieces?" "Six pieces of course" answered the Finland-Swede, "Eight would be too much to eat for me"
I did my whole university degree in english. Sometimes we had just one foreigner in our group work and we finnish speakers kinda forgot it when everybody were doing their part in silence. So when we had to ask something quickly we would just throw the question in rally english just to make the studying a bit more fun. We got some wtf -looks from the only foreigner and often had to explain why we suddenly had a strong accent :D
also the more you go into the countryside side of Finland the higher likelihood it is that people there speak rallyenglish when trying english. I've also found that it takes a lot of consistent use of the language to stay sharp (like constantly communicating in video games). If I take a long break from engaging in any english speaking it tends to get sloppier, more stuttery and can lead me to using rally english
@@extended_e hmm apparently if you're a British/ German duel national, that speaks both fluently. Plus, has a German mother with a THICK accent despite 37 years in the country... Reading finnish-english is second nature, its pretty close to how my mother texts, she literally writes how she speaks (she takes better care in formal writing) but when you also add in the typos due to her being in her 70s & also still using a dumb phone... Yep its exactly like that!
The subtitles are absolute gold, I am in tears! Thanks for this one. As a native German speaker, I can totally relate how people just resort to "fuck it, I'll pronounce it just as it is written", they do that a ton here as well. Doesn't sound as good as Rally English, though 😁
@@alibarancelik8903 Watching UA-cam videos involving Americans on Omegle as a European, I can confirm that a large majority of Americans speak like they have porridge in their mouth. No offense to porridge.
And when you try actually try to pronounce things somewhat correctly your tongue feels way too heavy in your mouth. I remember this one time I was playing VRchat and I was telling some people how I couldn't stand when playing because of my tendency to motion sickness so I would prefer sitting. What came out of my mouth was something along the lines of "Ai ushually shit on mai zheir." They laughed their asses off haha
It's because most sounds in Finnish are created from the tip your tongue or in the front of your mouth, but in English the sounds come from the middle of the mouth. Im trying to learn French and the sounds are created from the throat and nose quite a lot, it's fun even if it is hard.
And then I hate when I pronounce something wrong by accident, i try fix it it sounding even worse. I then try say it with rally english but think how repeating it 4th time sounds stupid so the word turns just muttering of some Finnish curses.
Adding to the answer Finnish is a phonetic language IE. you read the letter in the same way always and there are no silent letters. So if a person isn't good at speaking English he will start reading the words as if they were Finnish.
As a Turk I can understand you pretty well because we also read words like Finnish. only difference is we read J like English people and use Y to say J
As a finnish person who speaks english almost daily, I've noticed that after one beer I pronounce as perfect english as a finnish person can. Normally we try to pronounce even the "silent letters".;) Our brains are wired this way.
Never try to change your beautiful "Rally English" accent. Speaking for myself as a US American, love it. I can understand you and you don't have to "Anglicize" your accent. I love accents, and never want "foreigners" to get rid of their accents when speaking English. I admit I'm amazed if a "foreigner" can use a perfect US accent, but I prefer the native accent with English words, i.e. Rally English.
Juu spiik veri guut inklish. There are some Finns who speak fluent English, but rally English still flourishes here. The weird part is that I can write in English with next to no errors, but speaking English to another person can be hard even when you know the language. But jees, iso respekti tästä.
Honestly, your Finnish pronunciation of "rural" is quite alright, not so far off from how some native English speakers might say it, aside from the rolled 'r's.
I can speak English quite well but when I speak to someone who has a limited understanding of the English language my brain just goes into Trucker Swenglish. Spoke to an Estonian who spoke quite broken English and I was trying to tell him to lock the differential because otherwise only one wheel will spin because the power wants to go to the place with the least resistance. "Juu häv tu låck te diff! Odervise te veels vill spin at different rejts!"
The best thing about Finnish is you just pronounce each and every letter as they come at you and when you get to the end you're done. No skipping letters, no rolling any sounds, and if there's two of the same letters next to each other you just go ahead and pronounce both. The worst thing about Finnish is you might as well be speaking fucking hungarian as far as the rest of europe is concerned, nobody cares or understands. Oh and grammar. Mainly grammar.
Oon muuten huomannu nettipeleissä kun on tullu puhuttua englanniks niin suomalaiset kaverit sanoo usein ettei ne saa selvää meikäläisen englannista mutta amerikkalaiset ei ikinä valita ja on jopa kehunu että puhun hyvin. Kerran kyl pyysivät toistamaan kun sanoin ambulääns ois pitäny vaan sanoa paramedik
Maybe I've just got used to it from the Hydraulic Press Channel but I think Rally English is easy to understand and you can hear pretty well what they're saying as Finnish has pretty clear pronunciations compared to some other languages like Danish. In text we Swedes understand it very well and it's very similar but in speech we can't hear what they say. Norwegian is more different but the pronunciations are clear so most Swedes think they understand Norwegian better just because they can hear what they say.
In sourhern slavic countries we do a similar thing where we sometimes pronounce English words phonetically cause thats how you pronounce all south slavic words
as a Hungarian, I can perfectly relate to this. The reason I'm here on this video trying to understand what rally english is, is because of Käärijä (Finland's representative at the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 and winner of the people) and he said that he speaks rally english.
I've tired the worst of both worlds. I've learned Danish, where everything but pronunciation is easy and I'm slowly learning Finnish, where only pronunciation is easy.
To me it seems that all of us who are not native speakers of English can and do easily understand all these local variations on English pronunciation, as it resembles our own language's way of reading/speaking. While usually English natives might find it harder to comprehend what is being said. Food for thought.
Yes my finnish friends speak rally english when gaming together without me, but when I talk to one of them he seemingly speaks english very well. The other one not so much.
I like listening to rally english cause its much more spoken clearly and has good intonation but the pronouncation still has some room for improvement. Marcus was a fun guy to listen to during interviews
Before "rallienglanti" we had "tankeroenglanti". It comes from the story in the 70's where the prime minister Ahti Karjalainen misread the sign in a zoo that said "All animals are dangerous" and wondered what kind of animal is "tankero".
I have tried my hardest to purge the rally from my english, mostly because to me it usually just sounds like it's not even a dialect, just a complete malfunction of how it is supposed to sound.
"Dis karr hass no enginn, kivv mi a karr vit an enginn!" - Legendary finnish rally driver after the group B cars were banned, i believe it was Ari Vatanen, but i can't remember and i can't find the clip. I laughed my ass off when i saw it, though, he was SO GENUINELY PISSED at the new car with way less power! =D
Truth is that most Finnish UA-camrs could speak in a more "normal" english accent, but they prefer the rally english, since it's funny, and the supreme english accent. It doesn't help that the accent taught in schools is a quite strange british inspired one, which I for one would never consider using.
The reason is so weird because us Estonians often get compliments for the lack of accent in our English and we aren't that different language than Finnish.
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And while a Finn I got no Finnish accent for English, it short of got lost in the US while I was there as an exchange student. XD But I wonder if there is something called Ralli-Ranska (Rally-French) because I sure as hell will gain back the dammed accent instantly trying to speak French - language I never studied - even though I do live in France as my husband is French. Don't ask me why he figures it's cute - but yea my tongue literally refuses to get down with the phonetics of this language - and I won't be learning any grammar either, unless someone manages to make me speak the darn alphabet in the words correctly, so that I could actually learn the example sentences... never mind ever getting to the point of being able to read it at all. Trouble being that phonetics are pretty much ignored when the lessons always jump directly into grammar. By now I am really bored to even try to find a suitable class. Bit sad honestly. I did wanted to learn, but the French also tend to be very much the kind to insist on speaking in French never mind if they know English or not, just to demand a foreigner to know their language instead. And they seem to have this strange point of view that only people who went to university will know English - which obviously must be some age old false memory or something. It is easier to run into English speaking French gamers online than to find them in France - so far. The government offices that handle matters about foreign people, equivalent to Kela (I am retired), have people with worse English skills than the man selling pizza from a truck at the street corner. I get along of course because my husband being one of those gamers (like me), happens to speak English and so does his son. Point being that at least I got two to translate, even if they aren't no phonetics or language teachers obviously. Yet that is it - rest of the family members barely do and live on the other side of the country anyways - and then we now also have Covid - soooooo - well now it is not even smart to try to find people who might. Not that I could even get that far from the flat on my own feet to start some short of a wide search while my darling is at work or something, given that I don't have very good feet to walk on. And this rant or complaint or what ever you wish to call it - I don't really hate the French language, but so far having tried to learn the language has just resulted to frustration really. Then again, do I really need to know the rest of them as well - not so sure. Perfectly happy with my small family, even if I cant even manage to speak enough French to call a taxi. Somehow the way I try to say the words just are not very understandable - lol.
@@lyrigageforge3259 That is quite a long comment.
im still laughing because the ending was perfect
Thanks!
Same
It is sad i keep gatting banned in games for some reason because of that country name
Agreed! Cannot stop laughting
I'm still dying at Lauri shouting VAT TE FAK
*visual presentation of how the stone violated timos ass* i died
Glad someone notices the small details! 😂
Marcus Grönholm is legit funny in that Shitty Pescho 307... (I had to Google how to spell Peugeot). Jk
@@martinhubinette2254 Tarkoitatko Pösöä?
As a fellow Timo i can only recoil at the thought.
Did what?
"Ap in thö ääs of Timo" is probably the most epic thing ever said in an interview.
don't forget the gesture that really clarified what was happening.
Timo nevö ääsket fortis
i am happy that he recovered, and the hand gesture, i allways rememeber it
I feel like he really really wanted to tell what happened, but his English wasn't good enough to describe it, so he decided to use all means possible to convey the message
The hydraulic press guy said it perfectly: “In Finnish, if there is a letter in the word, it’s there for a reason; so we say it out loud.”
Koff ball
That ending though
Rally English can cause trouble sometimes
As a Finnish guy, I think that us Finns often think too much about pronounciation when talking some foreign language. Then for example in English we become self-aware and embarrassed of our speaking style and many of us just resort to the safe rally-english pronounciation. But the world's full of weird English accents, so don't take too much pressure. The native speakers will be happy when you can speak at least some sort of English (they'll understand thick accents) and spare them the work of trying to learn Finnish
As an English speaker I can assure we are extremely good at understanding accents do to the gargantuan number of non native speakers. We ain't picky.
And in Finnish schools, pronounciation is a massive focus. So people in the back of their heads are reminded of "speak correctly or no one understands you" -type of studying.
I could agree to that because "Marcus Grönholm finlandssvensk rallyförare" thus belonging to the same family as English but still manages to speak it in a Finish way :D
So to the Finish speaking Fins: Et kyl me ny ollaan sama kansa vaiks te ny huuatte meil V###n H###i...... ;)
i speak rally english to spite natives
I'm an English native speaker and I really like Rally English
In Dutch, the same thing is called "steenkolenengels": (stone) coal english. It comes from dock workers around the year 1900 who were trying to communicate with the English seamen on the coal boats. Nice to see it's a universal thing but with varying background stories. :DDD
IK OOK
In Sweden it's called Swenglish (Svengelska) because Swedish boomers are notorious for having shit English and just randomly throw in Swedish words that the foreign person has 0 chance of understanding
ua-cam.com/video/LMi0gcr_ckQ/v-deo.html < a classic example
kivihiili in finnish
@@TurtleGamers1 that's quite funny, because with the internet becoming a big thing, many _young_ finnish people speak finglish which is just random words from both languages
though they probably just skipped either their finnish or their english classes so they gotta bandaid their speaking with the other language
In Norwegian it's known as Solberg English, fittingly because of the rally driver Petter Solberg.
This dude is too funny, I’ve watched nearly all of his videos and he wants to make me learn Finnish
Good luck. It's a pretty hard language to learn.
Epäjärjestelmällisyydelläänsäkäänköhän
Don't get intimidated by Tuukkas' comment. Nobody will use that in real life in other cases but as a tongue twister or to scare off any foreign people 🤣 Grammar is logical with many rules. It is very different from others so that's a part of why it is considered a hard one to learn.
@@tuke655 epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän
@@Janttura Logical with added endings to words with sometimes little to no logic at all?
Moved to an English speaking country a couple of years ago and when people ask about my accent (in the context that my vocabulary and grammar clashes with my pronunciation :D ) I refer them to this.
Thank you for spreading the awareness of rallienglish!
Spanish guy living in Finland. I must to say that the english rally is in the same family that the "espanglis" we just read the english like spanish and sounds really close to rally english.
But the real question here is that does there exist rally Spanish?
@@mandelin0 I got several spanish colleagues and can confirm, it exists.
In finnish and Spanish actually the letters are pronounced almost same way, even though the language is not close. But i think both languages are pronounced like the "international phonetic alphabet" standard. When I listen Fernando Alonso speak, I find him saying R letter and other letters the same way than finns
@@ruslansalei3259 Yes, the right way.
@@mandelin0 Carlos Sainz may answer that
Regarding English, I simply can’t comprehend how people can learn to speak “correct” English; Since I’m Russian, I can understand your pain when it comes to such sounds as “r”(it’s also hard in Russian, just like in Finnish) etc. Personally, I can speak with a very subtle accent for a short time, but after a while, I just get tired of twisting my tongue to nail the sounds and “slip” to my Russian accent.
I feel you (as a Finnish person). And I've also noticed that it varies from day to day how well my tongue will cooperate with me 😂
I don't get to speak English often and if I know that I'm going to, I try to do some "warm up", "tongue gymnastics" before. And I've noticed that it helps a lot actually.
I speak perfect British English as a Swedish speaker, but I do not know of many other Swedish speakers that can speak English without sounding like Complete Retard. It's for me really annoying, to hear my fellow men, who hasn't learned how to speak properly.
And Kirill Prokopienko, you don't have to worry about your accent, the Russian accent at least sounds good, the Swedish accent in English sounds horrible.
And as it's not Rally English, it's at least understandable. I rather a Finn spoke Swedish as we mostly have the same consonants as each other.
But it is all about training, if you want to get good at speaking English, you need to listen to it often, so as to get used to the sounds, and to try to speak it often, and actually put in effort into learning to speak properly, after a while it becomes second nature. I for once can't even do the Swedish accent anymore, well I never could, I'm not stupid, I learned English just so that I wouldn't have to speak Swedish in the first place.
@@livedandletdie I've had my quite good British accent shift back into rally english because I've heard it sounds quirky, sometimes a bit Scottish, and understandable. So probably some tiny sense of national pride, since we're surrounded by condescending cunts, imperialists, Vikings, and Estonians.
Yea, it was hard learning the english language but i started it when i was very young, i learned it quicker
Yeah exactly. I may speak perfect English for an hour or two per day, but over time I just get so exhausted that I end up sliding back into the rally territory. Luckily most foreigners have little issue parsing my accent, silly as it may sound to them.
The "kolf pool" part completely annihilated my lungs I swear, I'm not even joking it was so hilarious
As a Hungarian I like to think I can nicely replicate the Rally English. It's one of my favourite English accents.
Pritti guud
Tänk juu!
An American, I absolutely LOVE the Finnish accent. I even kinda practice replicating Rally English, hehe
Its like drunken Russian accent^^
As a Finn I can assure you, you don't want to learn rally English😂
@@mazz85- 😆
Tät is veri guud for juu.
ai tink ju du guud bat ju shud lörn finis först sou pronunsieition is bettör
this was very funny to learn about because in Norway we have Solberg English, which is exactly the same thing credited to just one rally driver: Petter Solberg because his Norwegian Rally English was just that legendary. There's apparently just something about rally driving that makes the language centre of your brain short circuit
It's not the fart that kills, it's the smell
@@KIWI_DUDE. ja
Ok i did not expect that ending :D
Suprise!
@@mandelin0 Supplies!
I often times when im speaking english i just go with rally because when i try to speak with a "normal" english accent (american, british) i start speaking slowly and forgetting words and it feels much more natural with the finnish accent.
It doesn't matter how you speak as long as you get the message across. :)
You just need to practice speaking and it will become much easier over time. But Rally English is one of the better ones in sense of comedic value.
As someone living in Sweden, there's nothing funnier than jokes in Finnlandssvenska. My favourite joke is...
Ole och Ivar var ute och gick i skogen, då såg de en arm, då sa Ole till Ivar, är inte det Pekkas arm? Jo det är det svarade Ivar. Sedan fortsatte de in en bit i skogen, och så såg de ett ben, då sa Ole till Ivar, är inte det Pekkas ben, jo det är det svarade Ivar, och så gick de en stund till, då plötsligt såg de ett huvud, då gick Ole fram och plockade upp huvudet och skrek, PEKKA PEKKA DU HAR SKADAT DIG!
I love you guys over there in Finland, you're making the world a better place, unlike Swedes.
@@livedandletdie yea i am trying to practise. Im not that bad at it think and my grammar is pretty good (i think)
A Finland-Swede walked into a restaurant and ordered a take-away pizza. When the pizza was ready, the salesman asked:
"Would you like your pizza sliced up in six or eight pieces?"
"Six pieces of course" answered the Finland-Swede, "Eight would be too much to eat for me"
How many Finland-Swedes do you need to change a lamp?
"One to call their dad for help and one to hold the champagne glasses"
Rally English is actually charming to listen to :)
I did my whole university degree in english. Sometimes we had just one foreigner in our group work and we finnish speakers kinda forgot it when everybody were doing their part in silence. So when we had to ask something quickly we would just throw the question in rally english just to make the studying a bit more fun. We got some wtf -looks from the only foreigner and often had to explain why we suddenly had a strong accent :D
also the more you go into the countryside side of Finland the higher likelihood it is that people there speak rallyenglish when trying english. I've also found that it takes a lot of consistent use of the language to stay sharp (like constantly communicating in video games). If I take a long break from engaging in any english speaking it tends to get sloppier, more stuttery and can lead me to using rally english
Hei thäts veri kuud video! Ai send this to mai amerikan frends pikoos thei asked vai ai spiik inglis laik thät :D
Tänks for sheiring, Ai appriiciait it!
Jour inglish is pörfect, anfojzunetli onli finish peepol can riid it. Inglish wud luuk sou guud, it it wos writen laik tis.
@@extended_e hmm apparently if you're a British/ German duel national, that speaks both fluently. Plus, has a German mother with a THICK accent despite 37 years in the country... Reading finnish-english is second nature, its pretty close to how my mother texts, she literally writes how she speaks (she takes better care in formal writing) but when you also add in the typos due to her being in her 70s & also still using a dumb phone... Yep its exactly like that!
I love how Rally English sounds, I also love Finland as a country
The subtitles are absolute gold, I am in tears!
Thanks for this one. As a native German speaker, I can totally relate how people just resort to "fuck it, I'll pronounce it just as it is written", they do that a ton here as well. Doesn't sound as good as Rally English, though 😁
my favorite part about this is that the percentage of people able to hold a conversation in English in England is not 100%
I'd guess that's the same everywhere due to immigration
@@ilarious5729 Oh my sweet summer child. Have you seen an average "pure blood 'murican" trying to hold a conversation?
@@alibarancelik8903 Watching UA-cam videos involving Americans on Omegle as a European, I can confirm that a large majority of Americans speak like they have porridge in their mouth. No offense to porridge.
Pörfekt rälli inklis mään!! The ending of this video really got me! I was laughing my Nigerian ass off !!!
I am just happy that people know us finnish people from something. 😀
And when you try actually try to pronounce things somewhat correctly your tongue feels way too heavy in your mouth. I remember this one time I was playing VRchat and I was telling some people how I couldn't stand when playing because of my tendency to motion sickness so I would prefer sitting. What came out of my mouth was something along the lines of "Ai ushually shit on mai zheir." They laughed their asses off haha
It's because most sounds in Finnish are created from the tip your tongue or in the front of your mouth, but in English the sounds come from the middle of the mouth. Im trying to learn French and the sounds are created from the throat and nose quite a lot, it's fun even if it is hard.
And then I hate when I pronounce something wrong by accident, i try fix it it sounding even worse. I then try say it with rally english but think how repeating it 4th time sounds stupid so the word turns just muttering of some Finnish curses.
Adding to the answer Finnish is a phonetic language IE. you read the letter in the same way always and there are no silent letters. So if a person isn't good at speaking English he will start reading the words as if they were Finnish.
jees. tis vas veri informative video abut finnis ralli enklis. nau pipol of oter lankuakes kan unterstant us petter. tank juu veri muts.
As a Turk I can understand you pretty well because we also read words like Finnish. only difference is we read J like English people and use Y to say J
As a finnish person who speaks english almost daily, I've noticed that after one beer I pronounce as perfect english as a finnish person can. Normally we try to pronounce even the "silent letters".;) Our brains are wired this way.
I think it "loosens" our mouth enough to make us speak it okay after a beer or two!
@@evetoyoumwah elikkä tekköö tyhymäks. Heleppoo huastella ku ei järki leikkaa.
I always thought the reis vos kuud patte kaar vos pääd
Never try to change your beautiful "Rally English" accent. Speaking for myself as a US American, love it. I can understand you and you don't have to "Anglicize" your accent. I love accents, and never want "foreigners" to get rid of their accents when speaking English. I admit I'm amazed if a "foreigner" can use a perfect US accent, but I prefer the native accent with English words, i.e. Rally English.
Respect to (possibly) Jesse Puljujärvi. He had clearly only just began learning the language, but still went through with it like a boss
Mycket pra video Mumin
I just love your channel! Blessings, Maggie
Thank you!
That was the best ending to any video I have ever seen
Just found this gem now. And that's after moving to Estonia and learning the language. Aitäh ja kiitos! (The ending has me in pieces. :D )
ei helv*. Almost chocked on my snack for that ending X,D
Hope that snack didn't go to waste!
That end made me burst
REPUPLIK OF THE NEGUS.
A king.
I wasn't expecting that to happen in the end :D Actually hilarious
Juu spiik veri guut inklish.
There are some Finns who speak fluent English, but rally English still flourishes here. The weird part is that I can write in English with next to no errors, but speaking English to another person can be hard even when you know the language. But jees, iso respekti tästä.
That's probably because we study perfect grammar in school and instead of learning how to spiik
@@pabolthehoe5121 You have a point there, comrade.
0:47 that kolf pool hit diffrent ( osuu erilaisesti :D)
Honestly, your Finnish pronunciation of "rural" is quite alright, not so far off from how some native English speakers might say it, aside from the rolled 'r's.
I can speak English quite well but when I speak to someone who has a limited understanding of the English language my brain just goes into Trucker Swenglish. Spoke to an Estonian who spoke quite broken English and I was trying to tell him to lock the differential because otherwise only one wheel will spin because the power wants to go to the place with the least resistance. "Juu häv tu låck te diff! Odervise te veels vill spin at different rejts!"
Yes as a finn Rebublic of the n-
(Karhuryhmä in your house)
Karhuryhmä is basically finnish swat
Also known as karhukopla (The Beagle boys, even tough karhu means bear in Finnish)
Oke
The best thing about Finnish is you just pronounce each and every letter as they come at you and when you get to the end you're done. No skipping letters, no rolling any sounds, and if there's two of the same letters next to each other you just go ahead and pronounce both. The worst thing about Finnish is you might as well be speaking fucking hungarian as far as the rest of europe is concerned, nobody cares or understands. Oh and grammar. Mainly grammar.
I'm really curious to know how rally english sounds like to native english speakers
1:20 lol I love that perkele
*visual presentation of how,... made my day. So fun. Thanks for creating and sharing.
Oon muuten huomannu nettipeleissä kun on tullu puhuttua englanniks niin suomalaiset kaverit sanoo usein ettei ne saa selvää meikäläisen englannista mutta amerikkalaiset ei ikinä valita ja on jopa kehunu että puhun hyvin. Kerran kyl pyysivät toistamaan kun sanoin ambulääns ois pitäny vaan sanoa paramedik
Rally English is so cool compared to Swiidish inglisch. Greetings from your frenemies across the sea, or Tornio joki.
Jees tis is veri guud video.
Tänk juu!
Maybe I've just got used to it from the Hydraulic Press Channel but I think Rally English is easy to understand and you can hear pretty well what they're saying as Finnish has pretty clear pronunciations compared to some other languages like Danish. In text we Swedes understand it very well and it's very similar but in speech we can't hear what they say. Norwegian is more different but the pronunciations are clear so most Swedes think they understand Norwegian better just because they can hear what they say.
In sourhern slavic countries we do a similar thing where we sometimes pronounce English words phonetically cause thats how you pronounce all south slavic words
Lauri of HPC is a good example where ALL letters of a word is pronounced. ALL of them.
*veri guut kontent*
Tänks!
as a Hungarian, I can perfectly relate to this. The reason I'm here on this video trying to understand what rally english is, is because of Käärijä (Finland's representative at the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 and winner of the people) and he said that he speaks rally english.
That ending had me 💀
I've tired the worst of both worlds. I've learned Danish, where everything but pronunciation is easy and I'm slowly learning Finnish, where only pronunciation is easy.
Me(a finnish person): interesting...
To me it seems that all of us who are not native speakers of English can and do easily understand all these local variations on English pronunciation, as it resembles our own language's way of reading/speaking. While usually English natives might find it harder to comprehend what is being said.
Food for thought.
It's also true for Norwegian rally driver Petter Solberg.
The ending was hilarious!
... this has made me realise that i can read phonetics naturally now
Stand still and stay silent is an artpiece of a webcomic.
this video only got better and better
Yes my finnish friends speak rally english when gaming together without me, but when I talk to one of them he seemingly speaks english very well. The other one not so much.
"Why can't you just be normal?!" "PERKELE"...😂🤣😅
2:43 Haha I laugh for that man
I like how UK is at 95% like they wouldn't be fully sure about can they
tää tulee vielä saamaa paljo näyttökertoja
hoppas så :D
HAHAHAH eivittu, nyt löyty mun lempi YT-video
"Kolf pool"
Petter Solberg pioneered this 15 years ago. It is a norwegian dialect. Education 4 free
Veri nice video subskribed 👍
Thänks!
Mandelin btw konkrätsuleisöns for 100 subs
@@PaistinPannuPELAA a 100 thanks!
I laughed so much at the swating event at the end.
I like listening to rally english cause its much more spoken clearly and has good intonation but the pronouncation still has some room for improvement. Marcus was a fun guy to listen to during interviews
Before "rallienglanti" we had "tankeroenglanti". It comes from the story in the 70's where the prime minister Ahti Karjalainen misread the sign in a zoo that said "All animals are dangerous" and wondered what kind of animal is "tankero".
As someone from Spain rally English just sounds like English spoken with a Spanish accent lol
Moni ei ehkä tiedä, mutta Rallienglanti on ainut oikea tapa puhua kyseistä kieltä. Onneksi sitä opetetaan Suomen kouluissa.
Never laughed so hard in my entire life
Erittäin hyvä esimerkki mun englannista :D
I cant stop laughing! The subtitles are fucking hilarious XD
I have tried my hardest to purge the rally from my english, mostly because to me it usually just sounds like it's not even a dialect, just a complete malfunction of how it is supposed to sound.
"Dis karr hass no enginn, kivv mi a karr vit an enginn!"
- Legendary finnish rally driver after the group B cars were banned, i believe it was Ari Vatanen, but i can't remember and i can't find the clip. I laughed my ass off when i saw it, though, he was SO GENUINELY PISSED at the new car with way less power! =D
Rally English is Amazingk!
Helvetti mikä enderi!!😂😂
Best example of really english is when someone from my school said "kabage" for cabage
Yes that Makes sense.
Also.
Probably most English speakers would have just as much difficulty in trying to speak Finnish.
"up into ääs of Timo"
god that's hilarious
The ending 😭💀😂
I love how that video is more about you convincing yourself that you don't speak rally English, when in reality you have a quite thick accent.
The accent is intentional.
Both here and on HPC.
Truth is that most Finnish UA-camrs could speak in a more "normal" english accent, but they prefer the rally english, since it's funny, and the supreme english accent. It doesn't help that the accent taught in schools is a quite strange british inspired one, which I for one would never consider using.
kolf paal was very epic
this is why i have tried to learn a english accent for the past 5 years so my rallienglanti doesn't strike XD
The reason is so weird because us Estonians often get compliments for the lack of accent in our English and we aren't that different language than Finnish.
Viron kieli kuulostaa suomalaisista molotukselta
@@jaskajokunen8733 and vice versa
Nonono, dude im estonian and couple of my friends speak accent english with very thick accent or do no speak it at all haha
hahahaha yeah some estonians even speak with a british accent and i love it
veri guud video of showing how finalnd is english yes.
Repesin tossa lopussa iha täysin:D