2023-2024 Ford Superduty TPMS and Speedometer Correction for 37” Tires with Forscan
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
- Video shows hot to correct a speedometer and TPMS on a new ford super-duty with forscan. The video also shows what modules have to be relearned after changes are made.
**Make changes at your own risk. Video is simply what worked for me.
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thanks for the great video, worked perfect on my 2022 6.7 with 37/13.5/22s went from approx. 7 mph over to being spot on (note to other users no AWD module on this truck)
@johnSeidel-k8q did you only relearn the pcm and tcm modules? I've got a 2023 next gen ranger with a manual transmission. Im sure it doesnt have AWD... it surely has 4x4 though haha. TIA
This video was perfect for my 23 Superduty. Changed to 37s Toyo AT3s, and 2799 is spot on to 75. 80mph is maybe .5 off. Everything in the video was exactly the same as Rocky said it would be. Thank you, Sir!
No Prob.. Thanks for watching
@@RockyRohdehey man just did this on my 24 350 and it has a crash symbol that pops up on the bottom left now
@@RockyRohdejust looked it up and it’s the anti collision assist symbol that comes on to the right of the PRNDM on the digital dash, it doesn’t flash on my screen it just pops up in the little corner every now and then, is this normal?
Thank you so much. Success on a 2023 7.3. For anyone wondering there are no relearn module for the TCM, but everything cleared and worked without that step. Also, on the first re-learn process my truck had to be on first. Again, 7.3 gas. Forscan version v2.3.57
Same with my Zilla
2024 6.7 Platinum - 37" Toyo. Worked like a dream, exactly as described for TPMS and speed, all modules used and no issues. You are a true savior Rocky!
Perfect video for my 2022 F350 Dually 6.7 Powerstroke Lariat. Only difference is I don't have an AWD module to relearn. Can't thank you enough for posting this...Toyo Open Country AT3 35 x 12.5 x 17 @ 2647 to perfect Speedo reading...
Thank you so much for this video. Even the ford dealership couldn’t get my check engine light off after a year but with your help and forscan my tire size is changed without the wrench or engine light. 2022 f250 also doesn’t have the awd module. Thanks again
On a 2024 Lariat F-350 7.3L 4.30 4x4 the TPMS and tire size correction worked as advertised with the exception that it did not show a TCM to relearn. It did have the PCM & AWD relearn. Wrench went away and the speedometer was right on at 2770 with 37x12.50x20 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT's. However it would not clear the DTC, no wrench or alarm but it was there. The largest number I could enter was 2699 with no DTC. It looks like it will be off 2mph at 60 which is fine with new tires. Probably could change rear axle to adjust but did not. Forscan Version 2.3.58 was great at letting me know when it wanted accessories on or off. Thank you for the excellent video.
The gas does not have TCM
This is literally my exact truck (2024 Lariat F350 7.3 4.30 4x4). Good choice! 😅
So, your comment is extremely helpful. I doubt I will go over 35 inch tires though. How do I Know what number to use for that size (as opposed to your 2790 for your 37's)?
@@SliderFury1 The value should be the tire circumference in mm however there is some variability in that because my 36.69" would need a value of 2921 which is over the 2799 value that @rockyrohde said is the max that can be entered with throwing a code. My factory value was 2631. Doing some math between real values my 34.1" factory tire (2631) and the 36.69" (2770) values I would say your 35" which is probably around 34.5 I would guess the value at 2690-2700. None of the math is exact but I think that would be a good starting point. Going towards the lower side might be prudent because the tires have 18/32" of tread and tire wear new to old is about a 2% difference depending on tire diameter..
@@GH-qe9uothis is awesome man, thank you so much!
Followed the steps for my 24’ f450 for the 37”s . Worked no issues . Thanks for the detailed video!
Thanks for the video, TPMS adjusted just fine for me after driving for about a mile!
Thanks for watching!
Great work got it done step by step 23 F250 Super with Carli 2.5 and 37s
I did it on my 2024 f350 and it work thank you for the info
Thanks for watching!
Wow. Great tutorial bud. I have done a few ForScan mods on my trucks but never was able to figure the tire size one out. Thanks for sharing. I am new Sub for sure.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Rocky, thanks so much for posting this video! Just about to try it on my 2023 F-150 EcoBoost 1/2 ton. Might not be exactly the same, but I'd imagine it'll be similar. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
I was curious if this process worked for you. I just got larger tires on my 22 F150 and need to reset the tire size. Thanks!
Really informative! Worked a treat on my 2021 f250. Didn’t have the Awd module though . Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
Did you just relearn the pcm and tcm?
Anyone else missing the Awd module on your 23s. Because I can’t seem to remove the wrench light.
Worked on my 21 tremor.. thank you
Thanks for watching!
This is so valuable. Thank you!
This worked perfect on my truck.I used 2790 for 37 inch Toyo RT’s
Thanks for watching!
Happy Thanksgiving Rocky.I enjoy your videos.Looking forward to seeing your 350 Limited when it arrives.
It just went into production last night. Should be soon.
@@RockyRohde That’s awesome
What year is your truck? @douseahouse
Thanks for the video and sharing this information. Does doing this void any factory warranties? I work for a manufacture that does super single kits with 37"-40" tires and we are looking for a speed calibration solution. We work mainly with F550's. Any idea of this works on 2025 models? Thanks!
A dealer could void warranty over 37” tires if they wanted to.. It’s all a risk you take.. I have yet to know any techs at ford that go into module programming.. They usually enter the vin and it reprograms module back to as built..
Hey ty for help worked great.
I have a forscan ? Due you know the procedure for making time adj on running boards 2024 f450
Rocky this was a well done video. I have a 2023 F550 dually with a super single conversion on it. The a stabilitrac/hill assit deactivaited message comes on. The truck has 40's on it. Have you run into this before? Overland trucks have these tires on it. I have not been able to get anyone of the up fitters to help me with this issue. Side note: It has a Hypertec programmer installed
Dude! Awesome work! Got me sorted!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Rocky. Don’t you actually have to change and rewrite what the specific new tire size is also in addition to rewriting what the new tire circumference is?
Just tire circumference
just purchased a 23 f250 with a 6.7 never have used forscan before will this void warranty ? probably most of the settings that will be messing with will be tpms pressure and tire size, are these married to the vehicle like programer ?or can they be used on multiple vehicle's, I also own an f 150.
Most dealers don’t have access or ability to access specific programming. They generally flash replacement modules by vin. Generally tpms and Speedo correction should not be a warranty issue.. Dealers could void your warranty for oversized tires if they want to..
I am changing pressure and diameter of tires. Thanks. Ever equip a ford that didn't have the b pillar keypad with one? I am wondering how to do that with forescan. I have already installed the keypad, just need the bcm PCM to recognize it.
Very helpful and detailed, however on my 2024 F250 HO6.7 I still received the "check engine" light when completed. I reverted to original and back to normal. Would really love to get my speedometer to be correct for my 37" tires. I see others with 2024 had success, so not sure what my issue would be. Frustrating, and nerve racking. For another day ...
@RockyRohde I ran the sequence again with the 2799 value and no check engine or gear, however I now have a TCM P160A:00-2F error as follows:
Code: P160A - Control Module Vehicle Options Reconfiguration Error
Status (-2F):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC
Module: Transmission Control Module
Freeze Frame #1:
Freeze Frame #2:
-EVENT_TIME: 6353201 s (Thu Nov 07 11:39:50 2024) - Event time
-TOTAL_DISTANCE: 2130 km - Total Distance
-LOAD: 0.00 % - Calculated Load Value
-ECT: 71 °C - Engine coolant temperature
-ECT TCM: 71 °C - Engine coolant temperature (TCM)
-RPM: 0 1/min - Engine Revolutions Per Minute
-RPM TCM: 0 1/min - Engine Revolutions Per Minute
-VSS: 0.0 km/h - Vehicle Speed
-IAT: 40 °C - Intake Air Temperature
-IAT: 40 °C - Intake Air Temperature
-RUNTM: 0 s - Time Since Engine Start
-BARO: 101.0 kPa - Barometric pressure
-VPWR: 12.71 V - Control Module Voltage
-GEAR_CMD: Park - Gear Commanded
-GEAR: P - Gear Commanded
-GEAR_OSC: P - Gear Command by Output State Control
-TFT: 72 °C - Transmission Fluid Temperature
-TFT: 72 °C - Transmission Fluid Temperature
-TR_CORRECTED: error - Transmission Range Sensor Position - Corrected
-TR: error - Transmission range
@ride-n-reel you can try to relearn the TCM module again. Some of the trucks will hold that module code but have no light and speedometer is corrected..
@@RockyRohde Will do. I appreciate the feedback. I know you are not "official support" but do appreciate it!
@@RockyRohde I attempted the relearn 3x, but no change. So I decided to attempt to change the value to 2770 (a value someone else suggested), but same result. Then I put the value back to the original 2631 and viola, no P160A code. Sure which I understood the math to figure this out, but it's not thrilled with any other value yet.
@@RockyRohde I went ahead and dropped back in the 2799. The P160A returned however no lights so I decided to run it. I read in a forum where ZooDad said that this is common and after a few cycles that error should go away. I’ll try to keep you posted next time I hook up the machine. I appreciate you getting me this far, it has definitely got my speedometer dialed in!
I tried programming my truck to your instructions but upon connecting, I don't see a lot of options. I don't even see an option for BCM
Thanks for the video, followed the process and speedo was perfect. However, my pre-collision system deactivated and turned on the light. I set it back to the original tire setting and the system works. Do you know if there is an upper limit for the tire size with the pre-collision system. I know in my TRX will not take the increased tire size without impacting the parking sensors.
Any input would be appreciated. 2024 F450.
450 might be slightly different due to gear ratio. I would try bumping that number down a bit and trying again. Some have had luck adjusting the axle ratio down to get it correct. I have not tried that. If you have the 4.10 axle it is probably maxing the multiplier..
Thanks for the response, I'll give that a try @@RockyRohde
Remember the pcm has gear ratio to be changed as a line item also
It is at your risk lol.. If it was my truck I would try to edit to 3.73 and leave circumference stock..
great video, do you have to do the relearn on all of them or just the pcm? I just picked up a 2018 f150 and I'm about to put 35s on it and I don't want the wrench to pop up when I calibrate the speedometer, sorry may be a stupid question but I just don't wanna mess up my truck. thanks
That truck may just need pcm… Some of the f150 just need to change it in bcm and it’s good to go.. try it..
@@RockyRohde I’m getting my new tires on next week and hopefully when I change it I don’t have the wrench pop up but if I do I’ll do the relearn to see if it goes away
@@RockyRohde my truck factory had 18s and when I put the 20s with 33s the speedometer was 5mph off, I just used forscan for the first time and now my speedometer is dead on. Will have to do it again when I get my 35s mounted. No wrench popped up for me when I did it.
Does this work for the 17-19s? I use the measurement 2791 and i get a check engine light code is p1635
Can you programm a key fob using forscan? If so can you please please make a tutorial? Thank you
I think you can in pats module. I have not done it..
@RockyRohde you think you make a video how to get there? Thanks
@RockyRohde also. What kind of laptop do you use? I was trying to buy a laptop to work on my motorcycle and truck they said the cheaper laptop has this thing s mode and cannot download forscan
I have a 2021 F450 Diesel with 37" tires, how would i go about chaning the tire size without getting a CEL & wrench icon?
Great content. I have 24 F350 3.31 axel and tried all combinations. I can get the wrench to disappear but I am stll stuck with the TCM code followed by the PCM/AWD after driving. Setting back to stock and taking a drive will get rid of the CELL. Can't seem to find the right combination. Anyone have any luck dialing in 37's with a 3.31 axel ratio?
I’m having the exact same issue. I believe with the 331 ratio it’s out of fords range for the tire size and speed calibration, I was able to get mine to program at 2650 tire size. It’s about 3mph off at 80 with a 37inch Toyo
Same boat. Original setting was 2631. Tried 2799 as suggested but got check engine.
Do you happen to know if there is a setting to keep 12 volt power all the time? I'm hopefully going to adjust my psi and tire size to 37s put the exterior lights in stealth mode to save battery camping and do the 12 volt mod so my fridge stays on constant
Does anyone know if this is possible with a 2020 that is D&T? As far as doing the PCM and TCM relearn.
Why can't we go over 2799 on the tire circumference? I have 38s coming and need to go up to like 3040. It will throw a CEL of you enter too large of a figure? 0:02
Will this void warranty ?
What if you can’t see the AWD module? This is a 23 tremor.
Thank you for this - it worked perfectly on my F250! Enjoy some beer on me. Cheers!
Thanks!!
I’m getting a P0610 issue now. Can’t get it to go away. Went back to stock size and no luck. Check engine light is on.
Any resolution to this I have same issue
@@Sbbrophy I restored my factory bcm file and it finally went away.
Do you have any videos where you program a 2017 through 2019 super duty auto fold mirrors, I’m trying to figure out how to do it on my 2019 before I trade it in just to practice? My question is do I have to swap the pins out on 18 and 19 on both sides? I said it all up correctly, but they’re not folding when I close and they’re not opening when I press open? Any help would greatly be appreciated.. nobody on any of the Facebook forms can tell me or state whether it’s both windows that I need to switch the pins on or just the driver side. I know I got all the right numbers. Since I have a 4 button fob, I used the FC instead of F.
Yes, has to be both sides for it to work. I personally did this on my 19 and can verify it needs to be both.
What if the truck is tuned - will doing a PCM relearn overwrite or erase the tune?
I don’t think it will.. BCM is not pcm.. But not 100%.. Send Forscan a email and ask
My speedometer is about 4 mph faster than 2 different GPS units. How can I get this accurate?
DTC not showing up on newest version of forscan for f250 6.7 any ideas?
Were you located? I think I've seen your truck in Fort Worth
I have a 22 tremor with the factory 35s. It has always read 1 to 2mph lower on the speedo vs gps. Do I need to increase MM or lower MM to try and correct?
Increase
Can you show us in forscan where to turn off the thing where the truck beeps at you if you get out while it’s running and shut the door? Most annoying thing ever
It’s in the bcm list.. scroll down and you will see it..
@@RockyRohde ok, thank you! I’m wanting to do this and recalibrate the speedometer on my 2017 f250
Update forscan before running it. The program has got much easier to use.
ForScan says it dosnt currently support MY2024 ... any idea ?
Have to update to most recent version
Rocky, I watch several of your videos. Is this one before the fuel tank upgrade? I noticed the fuel gauge was lower than that video previously.
Thanks!!
This is my 23 platinum. My S&B was in my 22. The new limited will be getting the 35 gallon in bed tank..
@@RockyRohde ahhh….you’re right! I forgot about that!
I assume it’s the same concept though, same modules?
I can’t wait to see what you do with the limited! My platinum is scheduled for build next week, so we’ll see!!
What if Ive got a 2023 next gen ranger variant with a manual transmission, will I only need to relearn the pcm and tcm skipping the AWD? TIA
For 22 Explorer St is it going to be the same procedure ?
What would you input f450 with 35 inch tires
Followed the same process on my 2020 SD all except for AWD you can skip that step
Does anyone know if the 2024 f450 king ranch DRW, has tpms? If not can it be added or turned on in forscan?
Hey do you know how to get past the error code on the 23’s asking for the pcm part number? Or do you have to add that now on these?
Update to most recent version
Does using Forscan void warranty?
Wouldn’t the speedometer adjustment be the same for a 22 model?
It should but I used a hypertech on my 22 so not 100%
Would you have the number for 35/12:50/17? I’m going to try and change the tire size on a 2024 F350 dually.
I used 2660 for 35x12.5-20 Micky Thompson Legend EXP. Mph is spot on.
How can I get in touch with you? Thanks
Thanks!
Thanks!!!!!
I did all the steps and the wrench went away but I still have the p160a code
If the lights are off drive it…
My 2024 Superduty King Ranch dually holds historic P0160A code in PCM. After multiple relearns. Zoodad on Ford Trucks forum states Superdutys will hold P0160A code historic. My truck threw a P0771 code whilst hauling a 5th wheel with less than 1k miles cleared code trans functions as normal. Truck has been to Ford and dealer claims TCM is the issue not the circumference change and wants to replace TCM module. Tried multiple relearns and returned to stock value also. This not my first time using Forscan done it on multiple trucks mine and others without issue. Any other suggestions or tips?
So no answer on the P160A being held historically in the TCM module after a tire circumference change in 2024 trucks?
@glennmurray4034 is the light or wrench on?
@@RockyRohde no, wrench light goes after relearns on PCM, TCM & AWD modules. P160A code is being held historically in the TCM. Relearns multiple times, driven truck and retried. Unsure if the historic code caused the P0771 last week. Ford claims its a TCM issue and I told the tech I changed tire circumference and he seemed ok with it saying it was not the problem?? Seemed to be getting mixed answers on the P0160A code some say it will stay historically and others say it will clear with relearns, my 22 cleared after relearn this new 24 will not clear??
@glennmurray4034 My limited held the code internally but was never a issue.. If it has no lights drive it..
Can you use a Google chromebook with forscan
I think so
i have the ex but i cant get it to work at all
Awesome, thank you for sharing.
And it threw all kinds of wrenches when I tried that was a mess I had to just clear the cachet and go back to the original 2689 in the tire there’s something else that has to work
What number do you use for 35 KO3's
Measure the actual height and google circumference calc…
Will the speed change work on a 2020 6.7?
Do you only work on 24V truck?
2799 for the tire circumference keeps a P160a code active on my truck but no light/wrench. 2023 F350 Dually with 4.10 rear end and 37x12.5x20 Nitto Ridge Grapplers - anybody know what will work for this truck? Tried 2790 and 2699 too - same results. Set it back to stock (2429mm for my truck - stock dually tires are only about 31") and was able to clear the code without it coming back. I didn't try 800 random numbers in between because even IF 2699 would have worked, the speedometer would have still been way off. IF we were to change the axle ratio, would other stuff have to be changed too, or just re-learn everything same as when changing tire circumference? It looks like you can pick any number for the axle ratio, so if it's using it for speed calculation, I can figure out the math, just don't want to throw something else off.
Im having the same issue on a 2024 tremor.
Same issue, 2024 Limited with 37” Nittos. 😢
No light or wrench just drive it.. I have done prob 10-12 2024 trucks and Speedo is off 1 mph at 80..
@@RockyRohde I’m getting check engine light
@ride-n-reel 2799 and make sure to follow process exactly on relearn modules. Make sure you have the latest version of Forscan also..
Any idea if this will work on the 24s? Should, but never know if ford has changed something.
Not on 24’s yet.. still waiting on update
@RockyRohde Great information and instruction. 2 questions. Does the TPMS change work for the 24's? How long is it typically before forscan updates for a new model year to do the tire diameter?
@GH-qe9uo Headed home now to try update.. I will know in about 30 mins. Forscan just updated for Jan 2
New version works on 24
@@RockyRohde Thank you. Didn't really expect an answer with in an hour but certainly appreciate it.
I have a 2022 SD F350 Platinum. Would I do this same process minus the AWD module?
Would also like to know this.
I have a 2020 F350 dually with 37s will this work?
It should
@@RockyRohde Didn't work for my 2023 dually with 4:10's and 37's without keeping an active code. (See my original comment to this video). How does 2799 mm make a truck with 37's have an accurate speedometer anyway when that circumference (2799) is much closer to a 35" tire (a 37" tire would be closer to 2900 +/- depending on mfg)? My original number is 2429 because the dually comes with silly little tires (~31"). Have you tried changing the axle ratio in Forscan to adjust the speedometer? Would this throw other things off?
There’s no awd module when I scan forscan 2024 sd
Gas engine does not have one
will this work for 2017 f350 superduty
Yes it should
Anyone care to share a completely cleared DTIC screenshot?
I could get the wrench to go away but not the DTIC with 2770 or 2720. 2699 was the largest value I could use to not have a DTIC code.
Thanks!