Film Student Watches THE WIRE s5ep2 for the FIRST TIME 'Unconfirmed Reports' Reaction!

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  • @brazyfilmo3121
    @brazyfilmo3121 5 місяців тому +16

    I like Avon and Marlo interaction so much. When Marlo ask 100 large huh? Avon instead of negotiating it or repeating himself he ignores it with a friendly question “ how you been tho” also notice when Marlo walks in the room it’s full but when Avon walks in everyone gets up and leave. Also notice how Marlo mentioned Avon name when talking to Sergei. Shows you who’s the real king and who everyone has respect for. Little detail like that is what makes this show the greatest.

    • @chidiumeh
      @chidiumeh 5 місяців тому +8

      It's also a great touch for the prison guard to direct Marlo to booth number 2. Avon is number 1. It's all in the writing.

    • @SA-so9qs
      @SA-so9qs 5 місяців тому +1

      @@chidiumeh This is the only show that has multiple little easter eggs in almost every scene. This writing needs to be studied if it hasn't already. Im sure it has been

  • @elaineandjohn9599
    @elaineandjohn9599 5 місяців тому +15

    Love how they gave the girl in the opening a story arc in three scenes over several seasons.

    • @HugeLangston
      @HugeLangston 5 місяців тому +2

      All the pieces matter

    • @jerryalexander8803
      @jerryalexander8803 5 місяців тому

      She a pawn that tuned into a queen

    • @childrenoftheabzu
      @childrenoftheabzu 2 місяці тому

      Who/what are you talking about?

    • @jerryalexander8803
      @jerryalexander8803 2 місяці тому

      @@childrenoftheabzu he literally said who he was talking about, the girl in the opening scene

    • @childrenoftheabzu
      @childrenoftheabzu 2 місяці тому

      @@jerryalexander8803 yeah I was confused and thought he was talking about something in the opening credits. He means the the girl turning tricks at the NA meeting. You could have just said that. That girl as a indicator does not mean anything.

  • @Naya_3193
    @Naya_3193 5 місяців тому +8

    About Avon knowing if Bodie got killed: even if word came around about Bodie, I don't think Avon even knows him. His day to day man was Stringer, and even tho Bodie ranked up in the organization to the point he was reporting to Stringer day to day, the street level dealings are usually supervised by the lieutenants and are not the big picture stuff that Avon dealt with. Every soldier out in the street might as well have no face
    That's why Bodie complained to McNulty that even tho' he was straight trough the end, nobody gave a single fuck about him, if he went to jail or got killed even. That parallels McNulty's obsession and passion with his detective work, even tho' nobody is going to acknowledge his job well done, theres no medal and applause, no prizes no nothing. The soldiers are like "them little bitches on the chessboards" (pawns, in Bodie's words). "This game is rigged man". Said by Bodie last season, and by McNulty this episode.

    • @Naya_3193
      @Naya_3193 5 місяців тому

      And in regards of the last scene, not to play devil's advocate (you haven't seen nothing still, you just wait) but this last development of Jimmy's character is a combination of the aforementioned lack of recognition and being jerked around, Carcetti's promises were the last straw.

    • @tobisoprano6939
      @tobisoprano6939 4 дні тому

      There was one scene where Bodie came to car and shook hands with Avon. It was really just a couple of seconds and Ive noticed that like on my 6th view on the wire lol. Immediatly after Sydnor Greggs and McNulty choosed to leave

  • @Ravnemanden
    @Ravnemanden 4 місяці тому +1

    It's like in the earlier episode when D'Angelo is teaching the youngings chess explaing how a pawn can become a queen, but "The king stay the king".
    Even when Avon is locked up and has his empire usurped by Marlo everyone treat Avon and his family like royalty, later when Marlo has taken complete control of "The Game" people on the street don't recognize his face. The king stay the king.

  • @rafaelpalacios4657
    @rafaelpalacios4657 5 місяців тому +7

    The regression of Mcnulty is one of the things that always pisses me off too. BUT, its realistic. He definitely blames himself for Bodies death. Its also showing us the paralles between him and Bubbles. Bubs also blames himself, but hes doing anyhting he can to not use. Love the reactions broo

    • @Kaspisify
      @Kaspisify 5 місяців тому

      Also, to add to that, he is a high functioning alcoholic again. The delusions of grandeur and the erratic decision making is very realistic tbh.

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +3

      People kind of forget, because we technically root for him all this time, that McNulty really isn't a good person nor has he ever been one . He can be a better person, but that requires a level of inner change that goes beyond the skin deep.
      And good call on that comparison to Bubbles, they're both addicts who do need to face their own addiction. The even sadder thing is that Bubbles, Sherrod's tragic death notwithstanding, has always been by and large harmless and even affectionate to everyone around him, whereas McNulty is destructive towards everything and everyone.

    • @Kaspisify
      @Kaspisify 5 місяців тому +2

      @@thegrimner "You set fire to everything you touch McNulty, then you walk away while it burns"

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому

      @@Kaspisify "hey Jimmy, you know something? You're no good for people, man . I mean... Everybody around you... Christ."

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Kaspisify "you know something Jimmy, you no good for people man. Everyone around you, just... "

  • @alexutopia
    @alexutopia 5 місяців тому +5

    The news angel is a meta way for the show to talk about itself, for example "The Dickensian Aspect" mentioned here and later is something media used to say about the first season of the wire. I think it's important enough to warrant a lot of time actually, because it is the last piece of the puzzle. What's happening to the Sun has happened to all legacy media, which in turn explains the world we live in now..

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +5

      Precisely. That newsroom meeting is filled with meta commentary. The need for a lot of context, the search for simple solutions to complicated problems, all of this could be applied to how HBO sidelined the show for so long. It's the difference between seeing a tragedy and going that's sad and seeing a tragedy and going this happened because of these things that are wrong.
      It's also setting out a parallel between the papers and other institutions in their pursuit of a bottom line.

  • @Arsolon618
    @Arsolon618 5 місяців тому +5

    Love watching you getting to know Scott Templeton.

  • @roxanewebster9003
    @roxanewebster9003 5 місяців тому +7

    If bubs doesn't face his demons, he'll get high again.

  • @justjuli3t
    @justjuli3t 5 місяців тому +1

    Love your reaction to seeing Avon again I had the same reaction first time I saw this ep😂

  • @Kaspisify
    @Kaspisify 5 місяців тому +2

    It's been about 15 months since Bubs accidentally killed Sherrod. I think Walon has come at Bubs in a variety of ways about talking about it. I think now, more than a year later, he's pushing a little bit because he doesn't want Bubbles to keep things inside too much, and he's probably tried a thousand and one ways already to talk to him about it. Nothing wrong with a little bit of pushing now and then. He spoke his mind, and he pushed him a little but not too much.

  • @hardybryan
    @hardybryan 5 місяців тому +3

    Edmondson is a common name here. It is a school, but it's also a major avenue through West Baltimore and there is a neighborhood in the city named Edmondson Village.

  • @Bellamy_Koby
    @Bellamy_Koby 5 місяців тому +4

    Different sponsors have different approaches; it's been a decent amount of time since the last season.
    From my experience in NA; a more "shit or get off the pot" sort of approach is old school as far as sponsorship goes.
    I think he was 100% correct in bringing up how Bubbles spends his time, wandering and so on; that's too much time unsupervised in spaces full with triggers.
    On the Sherrod front? That's debatable.

    • @elaineandjohn9599
      @elaineandjohn9599 5 місяців тому +1

      It has been 15 months too.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому

      He's right in the "what" and the "why," but he's wrong on the "how." You're right that the approach is old school - "the thing about the old days... "

  • @ApesAgainstTheMachine
    @ApesAgainstTheMachine 5 місяців тому

    the ending of this episodes bunk acted like an NPC character in GTA when you bump into them

  • @ingsve
    @ingsve 5 місяців тому

    Remember that David Simon was a reporter for the Baltimore Sun who was following the homicide squad for a year so the newspaper angle is a natural part for them to highlight just as the police and drug game. Write what you know.

  • @Bellamy_Koby
    @Bellamy_Koby 5 місяців тому +10

    You and another reactor recently at the end of season 4 talked about getting super McNulty next season; that's an understatement.
    A real be careful what you wish for moment.

  • @thegrimner
    @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +1

    The girl is called Genevieve Hudson Price, and she's the daughter of Richard Price, one of the show's writers.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому +1

      Not sure how I'd feel about my father writing some of those lines for me...

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MarcillaSmith indeed, let's just hope it was someone else.

  • @makani9004
    @makani9004 5 місяців тому

    I've always loved that scene where they're discussing how to handle writing that story. You can basically see how The Wire's writers talking about the puffy shows that cover the issues they've been trying to examine so fully. Scott kissing ass and saying the right things to the right people.

  • @joeyjr4006
    @joeyjr4006 5 місяців тому

    One of the greatest series ever made I wish they'd bring it back😊😊😊

  • @lordvader199
    @lordvader199 5 місяців тому +1

    Avon would not know Bodie. Bodie was a pawn; a pawn for Marlo at the time of his murder.

    • @brazyfilmo3121
      @brazyfilmo3121 5 місяців тому +3

      Even if he did he wouldn’t care Avon know the game is the game. Maybe someone like weebey he would take to heart but not someone like bodie a pawn. Speaking of weebey he probably the one who took it to heart if anything which is one of the reasons he let bunny take his son in. Weebey a killer but he’s not stupid. String dead,Avon locked up, bodie just got popped. No one really in the organization to look out for namond.

  • @JMC296
    @JMC296 5 місяців тому

    1. I shared your concern RE: the newsroom storyline initially too. We spent years watching the stories of the main characters, its time to wrap them up, and now we have to spend time with characters we’ve never seen before, and we know are only going to get 10 episodes worth of development. No way that was ever gonna hit the same.
    2. Unlike the season 2 focus on the docks, which gave us all time TV characters in Frank, Nick, and Ziggy and showed just how deep and wideThe Game goes, the newsroom is pretty far removed from The Game. Simon, a former newsman, had some axes to grind which is demonstrated by unsavory characters in the newsroom being named after real life people.
    3. I’ll say more on the serial killer element as that plot line develops, but what I’ll say for now is while some people still regard it as the weakest part of the series, I think time has been kind to it and made it more palatable.

  • @Grushdevah
    @Grushdevah 5 місяців тому

    This is the first time I noticed the train horn in the last scene. It's drunk Jimmy at the tracks with Bunk, except they're not at the tracks this time.

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 5 місяців тому

    Elie, What's so good about this show that's different than others.
    Is no day is the same, just as it is in Real life. Good Days and Bad Ones.
    And that is what you witnessed in Bubbs the ups and downs of being a Addict.
    But he's getting better and his family may help with that.

  • @pestmo
    @pestmo 5 місяців тому +2

    Hold up Elie, let McNulty cook

  • @HighLordBlazeReborn
    @HighLordBlazeReborn 5 місяців тому

    Ayyyy you kept your eye on Deedee! Those little plot threads, man...

  • @FH-hu5vn
    @FH-hu5vn 5 місяців тому +1

    How could Burrell be so ungrateful to Clay ”Selfless” Davis? 😢

  • @biged263835
    @biged263835 5 місяців тому +2

    Nah, I don’t think Scott would make up a story. He’s reputable

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 5 місяців тому

    No, if you don't know about rehab in order to stay clean you have to let go
    Of what burdens you. It part of the 12 Step program, the things and people
    In your past can haunt you and cause Relapse. As his sponsor his job is to
    Encourage him to face the hard things, the easy things may get you clean
    It's the hard things to face that will keep you clean.

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 5 місяців тому

    Avon didn't interact with the workers like that, that was Stringer's Job.
    Avon was removed from the Street, the Second, the lieutenants Job is to
    Deal with the everyday worker

  • @dudermcdudeface3674
    @dudermcdudeface3674 5 місяців тому

    This season is still head and shoulders above other shows, but somebody made the decision to make it more plot driven than the other seasons and force characters to do things that strain credibility. Still a lot of epic material though.

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 5 місяців тому

    AVON, Runs the Jail. He Got the Visit, He controlling the C.O.s movements, he cleared the visitation room with no problem. AVON is AVON.🤨

  • @MarcillaSmith
    @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому

    Elie, your instincts are right on Bubz. I was a peer support specialist, and an aggressive approach is not the way to go, as you put it.
    Furthermore, your analogy of "scars" is more right than maybe you even know. Substance use disorder used to be (still is, oftentimes) spoken of within the framework of the "disease" model. This can sound like the root cause is something like a viral infection, which we know it isn't.
    The newer approach is "trauma-informed" - and it's clear that Bubz has experienced trauma! When viewed through this lens, it may be easier to see that approaching someone as though "tough love" is going to help someone "snap out of it" is a bit like shoving someone who walks with a limp to get them to "straighten up."
    In short, Walon comes off to me as needing Bubz to recover better because _he_ needs him to, rather than taking more of an interest into what Bubbles thinks it's behind his decisions. He would do better to try some active listening and motivational interviewing in the real world.

    • @KaBeeM
      @KaBeeM 5 місяців тому +1

      He's been his sponsor for a couple years and the Sherrod situation is over a year old now too. Also Walon is not a specialist or trained in any way. He's just a guy trying to help another guy. I'd bet in those 15 months since Sherrod died he has tried a lot of more subtle things. It just hurts him seeing Bubs being stuck and he wants to do something about it. Might not be the professional way, but it isn't wrong either.

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 5 місяців тому +1

      Aside from what the other comment said, I think this also highlights the shortcomings of things like the 12 step program where recovery is seen as items on a linear progression list, instead of accounting for everyone's rhythm.
      That said, whether or not Walon's approach is the best, Bubbles clearly needs *something*. He's on stasis, going through the motions and deflecting every opportunity for introspection. Going back to season 1, getting clean was the easier thing, but now comes life, and Bubs is faltering on that front, and a bit of frustration even if misguided, is understandable.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому +2

      Oh yes, he needs something, and Walon's frustration is _definitely_ understandable. I've seen licensed social workers with years of experience who disagree with the decisions a client is making, and take it as a personal affront. I've probably done that myself - we're only human, all of us.
      So my point was not that this makes him a bad guy or even a bad sponsor, but rather Elie's comment was about his actions in that particular scene.

    • @wjohnson1110
      @wjohnson1110 3 місяці тому +1

      It's the Gen X approach, we built different 😂😅😂

  • @iliaponomarev1624
    @iliaponomarev1624 5 місяців тому +1

    This is kinda where the show jumped the shark. I don't buy Bunk not stopping Jimmy here.

  • @Kleen6288
    @Kleen6288 5 місяців тому

    I feel like there was nothing else to do with McNulty’s character other than give him a darker tone, and that’s another complaint viewers had with this season was the change of Jimmy’s character

  • @bimmerman2003
    @bimmerman2003 5 місяців тому

    Carcetti realized that Baltimore was broke and he could not do what he wanted to do as mayor. When he left the money on the table for the schools and the homeless murders he had the hot ammunition to hurt the Governor, take the seat, and help Baltimore from the state house with all of the money he needed.

  • @alexutopia
    @alexutopia 5 місяців тому

    Bubbles has been at this for 15 months, I know Walon comes across a little harsh here, but I assume those two had a lot of long and hard conversations in the last year. This is something they probably talked about many times and maybe Bubs needs a little kick in the butt at this point. I'm sure he was more comforting a year ago 😅

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому

      Walon is taking it personal. He is re-active when he should be the one who is pro-active. Elie is right.

  • @TB-iq7gx
    @TB-iq7gx 5 місяців тому +1

    The newsroom is pretty Meta. Talking about "sure we can pound on the school system (s4) but we have to do the drugs and lack of parenting (s1) and the economic situation (s2) and lack of real solutions (s3) first" But yeah - the have to win prizes - to be relevant for advertisment-buys and not losing to buzz-feed and co. Frustrating stuff.
    Bubbles and his friend (sorry - I am not as good with names as you are - man you know everyone by name - how?) are working on his sobriety for 15 month. I would say he is too pushy, but on the other hand, he does that for years and lived that life - so he pretty much sees the writing on the wall.

  • @elaineandjohn9599
    @elaineandjohn9599 5 місяців тому

    That last scene is were many had trouble with McNulty going nuts

  • @joey_dangerously
    @joey_dangerously 5 місяців тому +1

    Season 5 is worth it for Scott alone. He's my most hated of all 5 seasons. Even more than Namon's mom...

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому

      Scott is the true king of Balmer.

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 5 місяців тому

    All the dude next to Carcetti is there for is to remind him he's running for governor. This guy is getting under my skin. And I guess Norman knows his
    Place now, and says nothing. The Norman we've watched would have spoke up by now.

  • @songar06
    @songar06 5 місяців тому

    What’s happening with Fargo?

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому +1

      The dealership may be involved with the smuggling, but we're not getting a sense that it goes past that.

  • @spyro257
    @spyro257 4 місяці тому

    Marlo makes over 1M$/month in profit alone, so he can throw money around like it's nothing...

  • @childrenoftheabzu
    @childrenoftheabzu 2 місяці тому

    Boris, why is it always Boris?

  • @manzell
    @manzell 5 місяців тому

    Don't Slutshame McNulty!

  • @Arsolon618
    @Arsolon618 5 місяців тому +1

    Jimmy's drinking is worse than ever before.

  • @johnm.2633
    @johnm.2633 5 місяців тому +2

    Everyone always thinks Avon is cool in this scene. I think he cuts a pretty pathetic figure -- a parody of himself and maybe going a little crazy. Still think the scene is cool, but Avon is king of a patch of dirt, trying to pretend that's not sad.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 місяців тому

      Yes, that last part could apply to more than a few characters in this series!
      Speaking of characters, what about Frank Sobotka? I-- I'm not hearing his name in here anywhere!

    • @drmnc1
      @drmnc1 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, given that Marlo eventually sells the connect for $10million, it puts things into perspective Avon was haggling for chump change. He acted tough, but it's also a pretty big fall from grace. All his Westside camaraderie, you know that Marlo really couldn't care less about any of that

    • @monadreher2428
      @monadreher2428 5 місяців тому +2

      Really? How though? Without Avon, Marlo doesn't accomplish what he wants to do. That meeting with Sergei would never have happened. The King stay the King. It also shows that he's still big on family by having Marlo send Brianna some money. Idk how he looks uncool or "lesser" than he did previously but to each their own.

    • @channelZER01
      @channelZER01 5 місяців тому

      Oh your very very wrong. It's proof that the king stay the king. You see marlo sold the connect to the co op for 10 million..... who runs rhe co op ? Slim charles who was Avons BOY. Now no stringer, no marlo, no prop joe. Avon will be running them corners from Jessup until he come home. Inside he has weebay and bird and all the underlings he got booked with

    • @channelZER01
      @channelZER01 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@monadreher2428the 100k was symbolic, once Marlo sold the connect to The co op for 10 million if practically secured Avons return to the top. Because who is technically leading the co op now that joe is gone..Slim charles , who I feel would easily hand over the reigns to Avon.

  • @BigSam683
    @BigSam683 5 місяців тому

    no one should be watching the wire in the pink buffy hoody