This Batman Episode Was Fanfiction!
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2024
- Batman Brave And The Bold "Knights Of Tomorrow" tackles a version of the future for the Dark Knight in the form of fanfiction? Bruce Wayne having married Catwoman tries to prepare his son Damian Wayne for a future as Batman. It's an episode with many homages, and some deep cut references. We explore it all here on Casually Comics!
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Alfred writing a fanfic about his surrogate son getting married and starting a family is one of the most adorable and funny things I’ve ever heard
One of the only funnier things is that it's also about him and his wife dying horribly and their son going down the same road as Bruce.
This was one of my favourite episodes. This is how batman should be handled.
Alfred is a fanfic writer confirmed.
He needs to have hobbies since he cannot die from old age.
The best he is
It's a bit psychotic that Alfred's fanfiction includes the death of his master/ward/pseudo adopted son and his wife, leaving their son an orphan just like his father was.
"I have an idea for a Father-Son legacy story... but hmm... how do I make a reluctant son take up his father's legacy as Batman? I know! I'll just copy Bruce's origin! It's so simple, it's genius!"
I really don't think it's that messed up. Could just be the easy solution to writer's block.
Bro plays no favorites, that's better than most fanfic writers
@@danielendlessand many comic writers
“It’s called Kill Your Darlings, my dear, one mustn’t play favorites in the grand art of fanfiction literature.”
The fact Alfred wrote this possible future is both funny and disturbing at the same time.
I like how at the time, this was the first time Damian Wayne was ever used outside of comics, and probably one of the best since, he wasn't a jerk right out the gate... which probably isn't the best representation of him overall. Also, Alfred is a fanfic writer and a shipper, who is voiced by Avatar Roku.
3 things:
1. NICE TO SEE YOU HERE ⚡
2. He was also great in Battle of Supersons Thx to Bat-Cow & Jon, everytime Jon & Bat-Cow appear they make Damien actually likeable
3. Brave & The Bold Alfred was also Voiced by King Bradley in the Spanish Dub
Woh Woh what his voice actor is that of Roku awesome
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 hey do you think Damian likes rock n roll?
So Alfred basically spent his time off writing What If Batman Fanfiction? Basic fanboy.
A frustrated father wondering when he's going to get some damn grandkids already
One has to wonder, if it's because he's a historically accurate butler,
based on indoctrinated military operatives who can't function in society without a schedule or rewriting propaganda narratives,
or it's because the adult authors are themselves so childlike with no beter understanding than the children they write about violence to. Maybe I'll ask Chelsea Manning.
Based on this episode, my head cannon is that The Killing Joke (2016) is Alfred’s fan faction after a few too many glasses of wine one night lol
That's somehow more disturbing than it being canon
It actually might be funnier if Alfred writes fanfiction to make extra money and does commissions, and The Joker found out about this, and create a fake account, and paid in obscene amount of money for a Batman Batgirl slash fic… that seems like the kind of crazy things Joker would do just a mess with people lol
Don't insult Alfred's fanfiction writing skills, man. He wouldn't write Barbara so out of character in his Real Person fanfic AU.
Please the one without the animated parts
Shippy Alfred amuses me. How about that Catwoman, huh Master Wayne? Huh?
Bruce: well she can maybe replace my missing heart piece of the joker
Alfred took the "canon convergence" Ao3 tag and ran with it.
I’m picturing Bruce looking through the library in the manor and finding the fan fic and not recognizing it as something he owns and sits down to skim through it seeing if he knows it seeing his name in it a few times
I remember a few Silver Age stories that Alfred "wrote" in continuity. One involved Bruce marrying Kathy Kane and lawd girl it was a mess
I have Batman 145 (Feb, 1962) with a future Batman II fighting Joker II , in a story written by Alfred
@@Valohir666 I think that was collected in "Batman: From the 30s to the 70s" or some such thing
I can't believe I've never read that one! It has ginger Robin and everything! Looks like a follow up is in order :)
@@CasuallyComics YASSSS
@@Therese504yes, that's where I know it from.
The man with the parrot on his shoulder is El Papagayo, a Mexican bandit Batman fought in the 40's, by the way Papagayo, is Portuguese not Spanish, I am Portuguese, anyway he was retconned into a 19th century Johan Hex foe if you look him up but I recall reading his story in one of those 80 page giants in the '60's, yes, I'm old.
Convinced now Alfred can only ask Bruce to settle down in the most convoluted ways.
8:38 Pretty sure the guy at the funeral is supposed to be Plastic Man. The hair checks out and it will explain why he has the glasses. Plus, he was a regular guest.
I was thinking it might somehow be the Penguin but Plastic Man makes far more sense.
It is more likely to be Oswald Cobblepot, aka The Penguin, who would go semi-legit. He would become friends with Bruce Wayne, despite not knowing he was Batman.
@@strongbladeseems like a huge stretch. Plastic man makes more sense, considering he’s one of the most reoccurring heroes in this continuity. Plus both of his eyes being covered, since we never see Plast’s eyes. Not 100 percent on it being Plast, but I’m pretty confident it ain’t Oswald.
@@TheShockVoxhehe "stretch"
I'm pretty sure that Silvery Batman costume is from that 1990s Batman: Brotherhood of the Bat, an Elseworlds story made to use all the rejected Azrael-as-Batman costume designs. Some were pretty cool, too.
"Alfred, I found your journal. I'm not sure what's more concerning: your story having me die horribly, or that you gave my prospective son the same name as the Devil's child in 'The Omen'."
I love this episode. The ending with Alfred writing it all as a fanfiction was wild to me.
I remember this one Damian Wayne is Composite Character of Himself, Bruce Jr Batman's son from those imaginary stories and Earth Two's Huntress aka Helena Wayne Batman and Catwoman's Daughter.
Damian: I don't like rock n roll but I don't know why
Also, this episode is partially based on Batman #131's story "The Second Batman and Robin Team". That's where "Damian's" attitude and it being a story told by Alfred come from. The differences are the Villains not being the Joker, and Robin being a version of Bruce Wayne Jr. and his mother being Katherine Kane/Wayne instead of Selena since it was written in the Batwoman era of comics, also his parents may not have died I'd have to double check. They likely changed it to Damian since he was more well known at the time as Bruce's biological son so more people would be familiar with the name and Selena for internal consistency as a love interest (and BTBATB's Batwoman's episode I don't think happened yet).
Someone also tossed Batman 145 into the mix, this vid is going to need a follow up. I'm excited lol two episodes for the price of one.
@@CasuallyComics What a deal!
Thank you. I knew I had read a story where Alfred was writing a fanfic marriage of Batman and Batwoman and Dick becoming Batman II.
@@CasuallyComics there were quite a few of these tales, all handily collected in DC's Greatest Imaginary Stories Vol 2 Batman and Robin
I don’t know whether or not this is a hot take but I think this episode (minus the reveal that it was written by Alfred) should have been the final episode of the brave and the bold.
I would have liked it better, then the actual series finale!
Damian's batman suit may have taken some inspiration from the batman one million suit
10:47 The suit honestly looks like a hybrid of Tim’s 90’s costume and One Year Later costume
Never gets old seeing just how much passion went to Brave and the Bold. Its a pure celebration of all of DC, mainly Silver Age but it brings in stuff from all comics and all media at the time. Its so much fun to rewatch and spot all these little references. Thanks so much for giving BnB the spotlight.
It all makes Alfred seem pretty bizarre. Those are real people for him and he didn't even bother to change the names or disguise what he was doing with some of his own creativity like writers usually do when they crib from real life.
I suspect that the mysterious man at the funeral is non other than Alfred Beagle, the goofy golden age Alfred who was entirety a comic relief character.
Damien's batsuit looks kinda like Batman One Million, first appearance in '98
Thank you Sasha, for all that you contribute to us Casually conversing on Comics.....we (I) really appreciate you thoroughness and LOVE of the medium. PEACE dear Sister, and God cover your steps and Family with Favor.
Since you've been talking about various superhero animated series lately - I'm kind of surprised you haven't yet touched on "My Adventures with Superman." Definitely one of the best superhero series in years!
I think Sasha's interest would be so piqued if they do an episode where Lois Lane for some reason begins doing all the crazy Silver Age nonsense that Silver Age Lois did. Marrying monsters and being a marriage obsessed schemer.
The point about the costumed weddings reminded me how Dick was Wally's best man, and Wally's ID was public when he and Linda got married, so Dick had a wig and shades on to make him unrecognizable.
Wally even jokes that only Batman would think to give a secret identity a secret identity.
NGL whenever I saw this I was confused but also one my favorite episodes.
Looking back it the ultimate love letter to what could it be.
Yikes. Alfred's fanfic gives Bruce rather a horrific death. Freud would have a field day.
Took me a while to realize Alfred was voiced by Avatar Roku in this episode. Love the casting choice.
Damian's silver batsuit reminds me a little of the Kingdom Come batsuit.
In my head alfred has always been righting fan fiction to past time
18:05 I feel like that is the perfect excuse to make a video about Robin 3000
3:55 ok now i wanna see the footage of comic stores with wedding cakes
Happy Friday and happy Brave and the Bold video!
Also, maybe that person behind Gordon is Chief O'Hara?
I think Alfred writing Fanfic can explain all the Elseworld's stories.
How? That none of them happened? There alternate earths stories from the comics. Brave and the bold depicted the else world's and silver age stories very well. I know huntress was originally batman and catwomans kid from earth 2 and it wasn't a faithful adaptation of that story but it was a nice story and a great episode.
I think that future Batman in the black and silver costume is slightly based on the future Batman from the DC One Million crossover.
I'm pretty sure Damien's future Batsuit is a reference to Batman One Million
This and Chill of the Night are my favorite episodes.
I think Damian's Batsuit might be a reference to DC One Million, but that could just be the logo more than anything else
That scene in The Return of The Joker where Joker explains what he did to Tim remains one of my favorite animated Batman scenes ever!
12:30 That metallic costume remind me to the futuristic Blue Falcon from the "Scooby Doo! Mask of the Blue Falcon" movie
13:00 its also like the original Golden Age "Batman II" and "Robin II" story where it was revealed at the end it was Alfred writing fan fic (Batman #131, April 1960). Batman II is adult Dick and Robin II is a Bruce jr. They did a couple more stories that include a "Son of the Joker", so that informed this episode as well.
Batman ‘66 had random pirates as Penguin’s henchmen. Part of the overall nautical theme.
I think the top hat baddie in the montage is supposed to be Deadshot, his early look was a top hat wearing guy with a pencil mustache
What other stories is Alfred writing?
probably all the great stories DC doesn’t wanna do
I like to think like to think Alfred is the actual writer of superman’s girlfriend Lois Lane it started as Alfred being petty because Lois made some comment about the food or the house or something when at one point she interviewed Bruce Wayne, so Alfred got out his anger by writing story’s about her having failed marriages next thing you know it’s become a hobby he does every time Bruce is off with the league. Because no one questions Alfred ability as a butler.
Alfred writes about Bruce's "playboy exploits" and sells them to tabloids.
@@alexanderf8451 I just created a whole head canon with Alfred Beagle and Vicki Vale lol
I can't help but think of Neal Gaiman's "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" Where Alfred creates the Joker as an alternative identity to give Batman an arch-enemy and so let Bruce Wayne live out his fantasy.
The future suit gives strong Azrael Batman vibes to me
That future Bat-suit reminds me of something from the 1995 'Brotherhood of the Bat' story.
The Damian Wayne Batman suit, has a few traces of the Knightfall Batman with the extending shoulder mantle, Rob Leifeld garter pouch, and the beefy gauntlets..
Batman 457 changed my world when I bought it from my local comic shop the week it came out
So, Alfred is writing a book about Bruce Wayne passing the mantle of Batman down to his son? And we thought Bruce was who doesn't understand what "secret identity" means.
9:30 Personally i love Joker confirming you can Blow him up, falling into chimneys or even get eaten by Shark...Hes the Friggin' Joker! He'll always return! Face it, he's Gothams Penniwise!😂
Little know fact; Strange like getting punched by Batman and Catwoman. That’s were the strange part of his name came from.
mr toad should team up with killer croc
I was expecting a mention of how, in the (Silver Age I think, could be Golden Age) comics, Alfred would write stories where Dick Grayson grew up to be Batman II (with the II prominently on his chest), while Bruce's son became Robin II.
8:24 Woah Oliver did NOT age well here. Dinah doesn't look a day over 35 and he looks 30 years older than her.
Yeah, hey have you done the Blue Beetle Trilogy episodes?
12:45 I think Azrael's Batman suit was definitely an influence as well
I always enjoy these Brave and the Bold episode retrospectives from you Sasha. I'm still hoping you eventually cover the Doom Patrol episode.
i want alfred writing more fanfics, and not just about batfamily, but others.
and maybe some smuts? lol
Alfred you're not just fired, you're super fired
This story is SUPER similar to Superman/Batman Generations by John Byrne. Especially Vol 1 and 2. Joker Jr fighting a Dick Grayson Batman in the future I think is straight up from thatm
I would love it if you tackled the Superman BatB episode. So many amazing silver age Superman references.
Robin 3000 is an excellent overlooked and underappreciated series.
Sci-Fi writer Bryon Priess (sp?) and P. Craig Russell present an awesome story, as a normally non-comic book writer his writing really leans into Sci-Fi but given a excellent comic book editor the story is a good mashup of both types of writing.
Sasha, way back in the early 1970's, I had a Batman comic book that was a collection of reprinted stories from Batman's past. This episode of B&B is a callback to one of those stories. It was an "imaginary" story that Alfred had written about Master Bruce marrying and retiring, Master Dick and Bruce's son taking on the Batman and Robin mantle to go up against Joker Junior.
Batman Beyond was also called Batman of the Future for LATAM, for Spanish-speaking countries at least. After watching as a kid and later as an adult, I have to say we got an improved version of the opening theme in which in those moments in which words appear on screen; like Apathy, Greed, Honor, etc; we have a movie-trailer-like voice-over that fit too well the tone of the series
that final suit has some feeling of the batman one-million (and one million and one) suit. which is a pretty obscure as a character, but has that shiny 'chest piece going to the shoulders" setup
also, cut that potential. but if italians cared, there would have been noticeable pushback already.
Based on Commissioner Gordon's other appearances in Brave and the Bold, it was Chief O'Hara, who is always by his side like in the 60s show.
Batman brave and the bold is one of the best Batman shows of all time
For damien's suit at 12:37, it reminds me of batman from dc one million, with the silver bat that goes all the way to the shoulders
12:30
that suit looks very Batman One Million inspired
12:45 The suit kind of reminds me of Jean Paul Valley's Batman suit, though I doubt it's referencing that haha
The pirate might be El Papagayo from Batman #56 (1949).
12:30 I think the suit takes inspiration from Batman One Million exactly for the accents
I feel like the armor is close to either Justice Lord Batman or the Batman armor from when they have to face Vandal Savage in the past, it's been awhile but they're both Justice League 2 parters
Thanks for covering this show! Its so great!
16:38 Who's the Ned Kelly knockoff at the right hand side of the panel? Ah, I should have waited - Swagman * groan *
I actually once met someone who had a classmate who wrote elaborate fanfiction about him and his friends. I don't remember what exactly he said his reaction was to it, but he wasn't exactly happy about it.
I could see Alfred writing about himself in his supervillain alter-ego the Outsider also him writting Merry Little Batman.
Wish they kept the episode as an actual Elseworlds story a la certain Ben 10 episodes, without needing the ending of it showing off a fine piece of work by good old Mr. Pennyworth.
Still, you know what some people say: all the fiction read in one universe may actually be reality in an infinite number of others.
Great Episode , & I’m betting Alfred made Damian ‘s sidekick Robin Dick & Babs son, who would surely be named Bruce Jim Grayson hahaha…Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
This reminds me of the comic where Alfred was at Batman’s funeral where he tells how he killed Batman. In that comic he tells how Alfred and his friends where once theater actors and to help Bruce they all dressed as silly villains to so Bruce can fight them and feel as though he is making a different until it goes to far and Bruce dies.
I remember the episode, but the only thing that stuck out was thinking that is a rather random story for Alfred to be jotting down. If they needed a framing device wouldn't Batmite have been a better idea.
even just batmite sitting beyond alfred. could have even put in a "the public's never happy" joke
Damian’s Batman suit has Batman 1,000,000 vibes.
Yay! More brave and the bold content!
13:50 I hadn't thought about it but now I'm disappointed it wasn't Duella.
The pirate with a parrot has gotta be El Papagayo, who was honestly more of a Jonah Hex villain, but did fight batman briefly back in the day and was then brought back in Morrisson's Batman Incorporated where he was a little less of a racial stereotype. But he did die, almost immediately.
The guy in the top hat was the robber baron I believe he was featured in the third volume of the Batman golden age omnibuses.
That's such a deep cut but so cool
Sasha, what's your take on Mime and Marionette from Doomsday Clock? I think they're worthy of their own stories with lots of potential..
A 1, 2, 3 MUSIC MEISTER!~ We got do get an episode on the musical episode, I know for copy right strikes you can't do the songs but just looking over would be great. Thank and have a wonderful day.
I liked this episode. It sums up what I think all adaptations try and do. A different take on many stories. In a way, each run on a comic is some form of fanfiction.
Damian's Red eyes batman suit kinda looks a bit like the batman robot from the original series as well
What really cemented this episode for was the wonderful lines from the elderly Joker. Particularly this one:
Joker: You know, I tried training a lot of apprentices over the years. But it's hard to find someone who can survive the rigors of *_being completely insane_*
14:50 the one one the left is the OG deadshot
Alfred: Master Bruce, when am I gonna get some grand kids?
Batman: Dad we've talked about this......
Alfred: You can be with Selena AND Talia.......
Batman: No more anime for you....
I see ' Fanfiction ' i click haha 😅
I could be totally off on this but my first instinct is to guess that the mystery guest at the funeral is the Penguin, Oswald Cobblepot, of all people.