X-Men '97 In Spaaaaaace
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- X-Men '97 crosses over the halfway mark of season 1 with episode 6 Lifedeath Part 2. The cosmic side of the Marvel Universe enters the fray with Prof X Lilandra and the Shia'ar empire. Deathbird and Vulcan beckon. This fan favorite Marvel series also dives back into Storm's journey to regain her powers as well as the aftermath of Genosha. There's a lot happened and a lot to discuss. Are the X-Men still going strong? Where is it all going and are you enjoying the ride? We chat episode 6 with spoilers here on Casually Comics!
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What plot do you think they'll pull from next?
Lorna accepting herself then she's mutant royalty
Edit: the yellow is nice
Maybe not this season, but now that the Genosha Genocide is canon, I would love to see them do the "Danger" arc, where the Danger Room becomes sentient and attempts to get revenge on Prof. X for ignoring the fact it had grown a consciousness.
I loved the ending where Danger connects herself with the Wild Sentinel from the genocide, only for Prof. X to stop it by using Danger to give the Wild Sentinel sentence ... and making it face the fact it killed 16 million mutants. Wild Sentinel just ... fucks off while Danger is screaming at it to listen to her, with the Prof. mentioning the poor thing could not even fathom the genocide it brought and needed to go somewhere to think.
It looks like they're teeing up for Claremont's aborted Mutant Wars. Using the Adversary mixed in with some Shadow King, and some Magneto War in there too, unless that's used as a bridge to it. I am so disappoined they didn't do the Warskrulls in this one. They wouldn't because it's nobody's favourite story but mine, but it *is* mine.
I think this season will end with Onslaught.
100% onslaught is comming
Forge dying on the floor of that mine for like 20 minutes while Storm was all like "Got my powers back! Weeeeeeeeeeee!".
I didn't even think of that. That's hilarious!! 😂😄😂😄
Exactly what I was thinking at the time.
Fr
😂😂😂😂😂
I was living for that 😂😂. She had to make him sweat a lil for all the drama he caused
Xavier was highkey feeling himself during that astral plane scene. Dude was rocking that smirk and manifested a damn apple. Smug Xavier is the best Xavier
Xavier took them to school lol
“Hmmm this needs something” *manifests pompous apple to evoke eating from the garden of knowledge* “perfection!”
_"Character eats an apple to prove he's an asshole"_ Cinemasins *Ding*
DEMERITS!!!
@@StormKoriHQ That moment where he throws the apple into Deathbird's mouth...
Can I just say Death Bird was HILARIOUS! Her calling Earth a “Milky Way ghetto” killed me! 😂
Seeing Storm in her classic Giant Sized Original costume makes me think we might get a bunch of X-Men in their other famous costumes, from like the 80's to the 2000's.
Milky way ghetto, seems fair
Yeah, almost every work of space fiction with a inter-galactic community have aliens always dismiss Earth as a "backwater mud ball."
What an episode this was. While not as big of a bombshell as 5. The emotions of Xavier being alive and learning the aftermath of 5 and Storm conquering the adversary, regained her old powers with a familiar costume, and also learning the aftermath still hit well and hard.
I love that OG Storm look. The Mohawk was a little jarring when they introduced it back in the 80s, but I got used to it. Really, they could draw her with a mullet and I'd still like her. She might be my fave after Nightcrawler.
Didn’t realize I want a modernized punk era for her thanks for enlightening me. Reminds me of that tiktok of the girl who’s like “okay yall it’s time for me to go to bed I’m tired from being the dumbest beach in the universe” like her exact hairstyle but on Storm right meow
@@nailinthefashion Lol!
@@nailinthefashionyou mean like the look she's rocking in the comics now? (Google "Storm Fall of X" to see it).
What I wish she had gotten was her 2014 look. It's the perfect marriage of the classic look, the all-white suit and her Mohawk.
I don't mind the mohawk however when they put it with the white outfit it just looked off :/.
@@nailinthefashionher current outfit is want you’re looking for just look up “modern storm design Xmen”
I felt Storm's attitude change toward her being a mutant was manipulations by the Adversary.
I want to say Sinister is ultimate villain of X-men franchise/sacred timeline, but Shadow King is ultimate “Darkseid” of X-men corner of marvel universe, and in my headcannon he directly influences the worst of Sinister, and Adversary, and Annihilation, Utgard-Loki, Chthon, Set, Gorr, Knull, Red Skull, Annihilus. He’s the dark impulse whether directly or indirectly. The war the mutants and psychics of earth wage is against astral plane equivalent to Eternity and *adversary* to Xavier and the Phoenix Force.
Here's hoping we get a video about the Imperial Guard. While everyone recognizes Gladiator as a Superman knockoff, it wasn't until I read the Phoenix Saga comic that I realized the whole group was the Legion of Superheros. I still laugh about Wolverine mugging the Sabertooth looking guy for his clothes.
This show just continues to get better and better.
I splurged and bought a copy of giant size X-Men number one when I worked at Marvel in the early 2000’s.
On the splash page where the new X-Men got their costumes, Professor X informs them that their X-uniforms were made from unstable molecules given to him by Reed Richards.
Unstable molecules adapt to the wearer’s powers and can be an aerosol sprayed onto existing clothing, or woven into a fabric.
Storm’s costume is always keyed to transform when she hits it with her lightning, so she can transform into anything that she wants.
Part of her power is psychokinetic.
She moves the dust molecules to seed the clouds and create rain.
So the lightning interacts with the unstable molecules to rearrange her clothing in a similar fashion
That is a dope explanation for that
This is literally the best explanation of it I’ve seen in decades lmao screenshotted and appreciated
That's an acceptable explanation, but I'm sticking to my headcanon that if you defeat a demon from another plane of existence, you have a badass magical girl transformation and get a new fit.
But what about the hair….? Still can’t wrap my head around that.
@@JuanHernandez-ys6wl She stimulated hair growth with her electrical charge?
She does it in Night of The Sentinels Part 1, so I think Storm’s just canonically a magical girl.
Is there a royal family mutants won’t marry into? The Shi’ar, The Inhumans, Wakanda, The Kree/Skrull Empire…
The Starks, too.
Lmfao assimilation is decimation but also if you think I’m cute we can negosh
@@SturmjaegerThe Williams and Pyms too, technically.
I mean, there are a lot of mutants. Given enough time, it’s bound to happen
As someone who just finished reading the brood saga i loved the Shi'ar section of this episode. I've always been confused as to why the X-Men are somehow cool with the Shi'ar despite the fact that their empire fundamentally stands against their core beliefs so this episodes attempt to show Charles reconciling that was very appreciated.
I agree with some of your points about Storm in Lifedeath the arc in general could have been built out more but I've rewatched her self actualization and transformation over a dozen times since the episodes release and it never fails to move me on a visceral level.
This series in particular feels like they’re speaking to me specifically. Magneto centered, Storm properly represented, Jean/Maddie present but not the center piece of the show, and especially cosmic X-men stuff. Like, I’m LIVING. But then it works for everyone else too and explains some less explored concepts? Slay
Aw man. They got rid of the Mohawk just when I started getting used to it.
I ❤the Mohawk
Same
Hey when I was a stupid kid in the early 80s I thought being a mutant meant you could make your costume out of thin air... I blame Spider-Man and his Amazing friends. Spider-Man had to put his costume on and Iceman and Firestar just poof use powers costumes appear. Storm ain't helping me not think that. LoL.
It's interesting to see Professor X brought back just in time to react to Gambit's death, as I always felt they were kind of the Frodo/Legolas of the X-Men where you get the sense they were friends on paper, but the show (and most X-Media) doesn't really delve into the specifics of their relationship. Cyclops and Jean are his heirs, Jubilee accentuates the student/teacher dynamic. Beast is practically his colleague outside the chain of command, Rogue represents the reason why he does what he does. His interactions with Wolverine are a volatile mix of loyalty, learning from and screaming at each other. His relationship with Storm isn't particularly dramatic, but you do get the sense she's the most uncomplicated representation of his dream/mission statement.
In the comics, Gambit was popped into the book at its most chaotic, and early on in both comic and the show, they dropped hints that he was some kind of double agent or sleeper or something, and at best might cut and run when the going got tough. They couldn't keep that up forever, but they never really delved into why he was there, or how Charles personally felt. It's not like it didn't make any sense, with Sabretooth they established he believes there's no cause like a lost cause, but I do wonder if they'll do a post mortem retrospective of the two interacting.
The Jim Lee Shi'ar suit for Chuck was so well done. I was amazed when I saw it and it didn't end up silly.
Twitter wanting to square up with Deathbird for calling us ghetto will forever be hilarious to me.
What? You mean like the twitter app?
Mutants
In
SPACE!
Hard to believe Pigs in Space is over 40 years old! The reference is always welcome.
Fun fact: I believe they used the whole "Power of electricity allows the user to make clothes" thing with Livewire from Superman The Animated Series, as well. Something about ionized air or the like.
Any fabric is just a chemical formula of carbon, hydrogen & oxygen. Since the air has traces of each of those elements & Ororo can manipulate the weather into any chemical formula she wants, she can make clothes.
Did people for get she could always do this? She did it in the First episode when the Sentinel was going after Jubilee in the Mall.
Great breakdown, Sasha. On a side note, I was super distracted by Xavier's new voice actor - every time he spoke it reminded me of the Invincible cartoon, but I couldn't place the voice! I had to pause and look it up; it's Ross Marquand, who voices the Immortal. Now I can't un-hear it, lol.
I liked this episode and it didn't feel like a "filler" episode. They easily could've done one to draw out tension from the end of episode 5. Xavier's part is a good "what has he been up to?" plus him realizing why he has to return to Earth. And the Storm part is satisfying just to see her get her powers back, even if it felt really abbreviated/accelerated from the source material in the comics.
Loved the visuals in this episode. The space explosion color palette brought me back to the 90s hard.
I don't think a streaming service that drops a whole season at once needs a "Previously On" segment before each episode, but if your show takes a break for 27 years it would be nice to have a little refresher on what was happening.
They need one because it's iconic to the show itself
Uh, what streaming service are you watching it on? Mine makes us wait a week between episodes
@@MisterTwitI think they only did the series drop for Echo.
I like it
I guess the way I reconcile the shift in Storms attitude towards her powers is that she was having a moment where she was about to share or over share an emotion she wasn’t ready to tell anyone or possibly even herself. And perhaps quickly shifted the conversation to something positive to make Jean feel better. Lol but yes I do agree with you Storms feelings about being a mutant did shift.
Usually female heroes wear more revealing and sexy clothes when they turn evil… nice to see Storm buck the trend
I think she was topless with her hair covering her in her first appearance.
@@notavailable2590 Artists loved to draw her naked back in the 70's and 80's, with just some fog or plants in the way.
@@brettwood1351 It was the style at the time.
Nope! You're not alone. I went back to rewatch Maddie and Ororo's conversation to see if I had missed something. The only lie I could see her telling herself was that she was better off leaving the mansion as quickly as she did. PS - Forge and Ororo forged (pun fully intended) their relationship pretty quickly in the comic as well. I'm glad she moved into forgiveness in this adaptation because he told her as opposed to her finding out on her own. That was the reason she left his home when she did in the original story. I dug the power couple that was Storm and Black Panther, but I always shipped Ororo and Forge. Also, the team was told he would have to be saved AND recover under Shiar care. He's been gone a year. Why is he acting like he was gone for sooooooooooooooo long he's going to have to explain himself? They knew the score! This feels like foreshadowing a problem that doesn't need to happen.
I wasn't ready to say goodbye to mohawk Storm!!!
Storm, unpowered, at one point in the comics was able to beat Cyclops in a danger room scenario to lead the XMen! She was able to accept herself without powers and then eventually got them back. I would have liked her to remain unpowered and with her mohawk a little longer.
Yes, I was so hoping for a depowered Storm to take the leadership. Scott and Jean could have them left to take care of Cable.
When Deathbird said "GHETTO", I about cried from laughing EPIC!!!!
I loved the energy and enthusiasm you had to just get straight to the discussion, lol really shows how passionate you are and love your job! 👍🏿😁
Gambit isn't dead! You take that back! 😅
I think the best part was when Gladiator took an attack meant for the Emperess, and hoped the empresses sister in the face. Like "What did you think was gonna happen?" That followed by Xavier ringing the bell as he puts school in session.
Space makes everything better!
I ❤ X-Men 97 for what they are doing, I feel like the show has grown up with me. The 92 X-Men animated series was my Intro to wanting to read the comics as a kid & I super gotten into reading the Morrison era & the 00s Ultimate Universe X-Men comics
They could have cut out the Jubilee part in 4 and just gave Storm and Professor X their own episodes.
The animators clearly LOVE Sailor Moon so of course we going to get another costume transformation and I'm here for it
I’ve been watching your videos for some time now. And I am sooo happy that I get to watsh xmen 97 with you now!! Hugs from Argentina!
So, I took the costume manifesting being the demon's magic being used by Storm to form the costume as you see the feathers malting away. I later saw Beau DeMayo confirm this on Twitter when someone else brought it up
It's really cool that he engages with fans so much on twitter and answers questions like that.
@@CasuallyComics yeah, I don't normally go on Twitter nowadays but I wanted to look up something and I saw his reply right there. I was totally surprised as I thought he wasn't going to engage much
1st - Love the hair
2nd - OMG 😱😱😱 it was so good
2:10
Didn’t know Storm was also a magical girl. Not that I’m complaining.
But man am I gonna miss that Mohawk.
I loved it! Great video.
The ammount of people who couldn't handle the phrase "making love" is insane.
This was a great video, but I have to say I disagree with your take on Storm's storyline. To me, it came across as an exploration of the negative feelings she has towards her powers which is why the dream of being human was so tempting. They didn't explore it previously because she was talking to comfort "Jean", but she had to have some conflict with her powers in order for her to even come up with the dream of being human and not part of the mutant/human conflict. This also is hinted at in the first episode when she responds to Bishop saying that she wants to give people a chance to walk away before leaping into the fight. Showing that she's holding herself to a higher (perhaps unattainable?) standard, which implies a complicated stance on her own powers vs other mutants.
Still this was a great video and I'm hoping that, despite the epic way he went out, Gambit returns in one way or another. *fingers crossed*
my girlfriend who bgig xmen fan is just happy a xmen thing outside the comic remember froge also is trained in magic
"Froge" makes me think of Throg; now I want to see the frog version of Forge.
@@SimonBuchanNzsorry spelling names is hard learning disablie a bitch, but frog forge sounds cute
"NO! THEY WERE DANCING, DRINKING WINE MAKING LOVE" I can't help but laugh at that line
Love the episode, even though as you said it was taking a step backwards, but probably a interlude we needed…The two stories were interwoven nicely, the guests stars Amazing, & Storm getting her powers back Awesome, except IMO her hair growing back & getting her OG costume was a bit much fan service…& Although I didn’t initially catch the differences in her conversation with Jean & how she discussed it with Forge ,yeah I see them now…& if she was just trying to comfort Jean it’s not like she could hide her true feelings from her 🤷🏾♂️ …Anyway I’m ready too strap in for what I anticipate to be a E Ticket Ride ( a old school Disneyland reference) of a finishing 3 episodes…Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
Agreed , DeMayo must be apart of the show !!! A must !!
Sasha, have you ever talked about the Team Titans, the Titans from the future that included a vampire, a megazord and a bdsm evil Nightwing with nipple piercings? I need to watch someone talk about this....
I really think we needed to check in on Storm more without her powers before giving them back. Maybe an episode where she meets Yukio, who has a lot of fun without being a mutant.
Yeah, I’d agree that what Storm said to Forge didn’t quite match up with the conversation with Madelyne, and it felt super rushed her already getting her powers back already, but I loved seeing her original uniform.
Also, it’s been great seeing other characters get the spotlight for a change, but as a huge Wolverine fan, I’m ready for a Wolverine centric episode. Not asking for him to take the spotlight for the whole series, but one episode would be nice lol
Overall though, I’m still loving it! Can’t wait until the next episode!
11:11 Damn, New Sun would be a deep pull.
I don't think there's much chance of X-Men '97 bringing her in and justifying the coverage, but I would love to see a Black Womb Project & Amanda Mueller video. Let the world know about the Summers (possible?) great great evil granny.
"Purple Superman?!" Dang - such disrespect for the Praetor of the Imperial Guard! Also, since the IG are meant to be Legion expys, wouldn't that make him "Purple Superboy?"
The writer retweeted that the Adversary transformed into her costume.
thank you for covering xmen 97´ je l’adore
I much rather have Sinister being behind the Genosha attack then Cassandra Nova. This show is supposed to be a continuation of X-Men: TAS, I'd prefer to see characters from that show get explored more then having new characters getting shoehorned into an old narrative.
While it's awesome Storm is metaphorically reborn, it's a pity we didn't get to see Ororo defeat Cyclops for leadership of the team without her powers.
Swapping Mr. Sinister for Cassandra Nova makes sense since she's so messy, but then why does Vulcan cameo? "Deadly Genesis" was a horrible retcon!
Dope review , kinda wish Storm got her Jim Lee suit back though
When there is a death of a main character in a story (much less multiple main characters) that includes both Bishop AND Cable, I’m okay with bringing them back quickly because you know it’s going to happen anyway.
I have a feeling they blended the demon days owl monster with Advasary with the owl creature.
I loved Xavier's anti imperialism lecture. It's something people don't really talk about any more here in the states since Obama normalized war for democrats. That made it refreshing radical and the sort of lesson about the world that is great to see im X-Men stories. It kind of makes me speculate that Beau may have been fired for being a little radical politically.
My take on resurrection: If a character death hits hard enough for the fandom to beg that it be reversed, then it’s impact will stay the same so long as it is acknowledged that it did happen. Aka, people wishing for Cable to reverse it means the death was so bad (in the best way possible story wise) that they want the best outcome they can get until it is confirmed nothing can be done to undo it. As a Jean Grey fan, who has seen a multitude of Jean’s deaths both good and bad, you get familiar with what makes you feel like a character should stay death or not.
I want Gambit to return so that Rouge can finally admit her feelings for him.
Well gambit is alive in the Spider-Man show with the technically after this show
I agree Storm's feelings regarding being human did feel stretched a bit to me at first, but I chalked it up to the difference between *breifly discussing a hypothetical with a friend in a comforting way* and *wallowing in self-pity after having the state forced upon her,* which is even more understandable when contextualizing "tempting daydream."
As for the differences in the dialog, I didn't pay much attention to it at first and am not bothered by it because, like most shows, showrunners may set the direction, map the season and even be the lead writer of script and dialog, but they don't write, direct or edict every episode. What we're seeing is the "voice" of one of more that may have written part or all of a few episodes, and it gives us insight into how the show will feel in season 3 and hopefully beyond since DeMayo had already worked through Season 2 and part of Season 3 before being fired. In which case, I lkie the pacing and intercutting of this episode more than I like the crammed storytelling of episodes 2 and 3, and the disconnect of 4. To me 1, 5 and 6 have been the best paced so far.
I love all this.
Yeah, I got the feeling of a step being missing towards the moment Storm gets her powers back.
I think I agree with your assessment of Storm's arc in this Lifedeath adaptation. I got where it was going but in the end the emotional beats just didn't fully land with me. The scene of her regaining her powers, though, was glorious.
Little known fact. Stan Lee named Professor Charles Francis Xavier after the silent film star Francis Xavier Bushman .
11:49 There's also some people who belive that the big villain in the end of these season will be Apocalypse, since the Genosha incident fits with his motivation, of manipulating events in order to push humanity and mutants into a war. His apperance would justify Sinister and Cable presence in the series and explain how Gambit could come back to life (in this case Apocalypse could ressuect him as one of his Horsemen).
Specifically to Storm, I feel the idea was how she was trying to convince herself she was better without powers, rationalize her own feelings and even recontextualize why she had said before. TBH I felt that the point was that a lot of what she said before regaining her powers was BS, and not necessarily the Adversary's fault, who just was mining her insecurity. It's like, how easy is for Storm to lie to herself. To me it mostly works, but the issue is that is mostly just self reflection and no interaction beyond Forge, so it comes across as she is oscillating between feelings. Maybe it would have come across clearer if we saw this arc with more characters or situations to bounce of, but with the Adversary and Forge existing solely as foils as her, it was all very much an introspective journey that perhaps didn't go as hard as it could have gone.
Maybe Lifedeath could have been a single episode that truly committed to the journey to the center of the mind, but the themes we got were one of my favorites of the show so far!
I thought the Storm section was fine for what it was, my main thought is that I think it would have been better served if Lifedeath had been its own entire episode instead of being split with two other stories.
I just wish storm had, had her own episode to herself. As important as charles stuff was , I was annoyed every time we cut to him 😅
Loved the Episode. Deathbird was awesome (as she should be), kink-bot Chuck was great, and i LOVED the old school Storm costume. It's still moving through these storylines SUPER fast, but I appreciate them being shown.
CLASS IS IN SESSION
Milky-way ghetto was just a great line read
I think with Sinister being hinted to be the one behind the wild Sentinel, and with Cable in play trying to 'stop him'; i reckon that the serise big bad will be Stryfe.
I’d like Stryfe, Onslaught, the Shadow King, Mystique, and Sinister to all be baddies together vs Rachel, Cable, Quentin and the other telepaths. What a fun season 2 subplot
I thought I was one of the few Cable fans laeft walking this earth. I like seeing that there are others that have their great Cable stories they enjoy.
We know gambit will come back to life because he showed up in the Spider-Man show
Professor X is only necessary in his head.
Can you talk about the return of Flatline and maybe House of Brainiac too?
Storm’s return was definitely a wonderful one for sure but I do agree everything on her end was fast but I did expect that both her and Charles got the message late regarding Genosha. Not to mention as a best way to focus on both of them.
I agree, Storm got her powers back way too fast.
If Vulcan is with the Shi’ar empire and they’re already beefing with the Kree my theory is War of Kings is on the way.
Not sure how it’ll work though cuz the professor is gonna be Emporer
Charles is giving up his life with Lilandra to go back and be with his X-Men and focus on human-mutant coexistence. He won't be emperor and he doesn't get to live happily ever after with the person he loves. Him leaving also conveniently provides Deathbird and Vulcan an opportunity to usurp the throne.
I want more Gladiator and the Imperial Guard.
I really liked Storm's half of the story, personally. I'm glad she'll be heading back to the team; she needs to be with her family and they need her. Ororo can be a tricky character to get right, and overall, the series is doing an amazing job at adapting one of her most pivotal stories. The space opera... I LOVED Deathbird. Let me get that out first. She was pitch-perfect. And the Vulcan cameo was sweet! I wasn't really missing Charles, though. I'd personally have liked more without him, maybe holding him back until the second season. Let the X-Men handle this major crisis without him, deal with the aftermath, be super-competent, and have him come back to "fix" things, only to get reamed out that he didn't call sooner. Maybe that will happen. Charles says he needs to get back, but there's no guarantee he'll be able to return immediately (though I think most of the Shi'Ar council would be happy to shunt him home ASAP).
Storm feeling herself that hard really got me going
I wouldn't mind having Gambit back, since the show already did that for Morph, but then again I'm very bias towards Gambit and I have always wanted some of his background as a Marauder animated. There's not a lot of Gambit outside the comics in general
Deathbird was fantastic. 5/7 would recommend.
Not that I'm a big Cassandra Nova fan, but I admit I was a little disappointed that Mr. Sinister was revealed to be behind the Genosha attack. I mean, it just kind of feels like we've been seeing a lot of him, and while I don't think Mr. Sinister wouldn't be responsible for the Genova Genocide, I do hope they actually explain why he wanted so many mutants dead.
I am tentatively willing to give them the chance to land the story, though, as I already love the fact we actually got the be in the genocide and see it first-hand, as opposed to what E for Extinction did.
Also, I am perfectly fine if they bring Gambit back as a Horseman.
Same reason he wanted Morlocks massacre? 🤷🏿
One thing I noticed is they added Nightcrawler to the intro. So I hope they pull one more thing from E from Extinction, Nightcrawler joining the team because he has no where else to go, like they did with Emma.
I see that JSA peeking out back there.
Someone made a post on fb about how toxic Lilandra was in this series and I was like damn she really was like move in with my whole family and get a lobotomy to forget your foster kids.
I said in a previous video that I thought Magneto's role in things was staged carefully to make him a martyr and that the attack was designed to provoke a backlash against humans from mutants. Those feelings are obviously stronger now with the Sinister reveal and I suspect Magneto was replaced with Joseph similar to how Jean was replaced with Maddie.
I know you know this but it's worth remembering that the eloquent detail of Maddie being swapped FOR Jean is an invention of this show and may be seeding the idea of Sinister swapping some people. It certainly makes things less creepy than the comics where nobody even thinks it's anything other than a coincidence that Maddie resembles Jean but I think once you establish that Sinister can swap people, it becomes a Chekhov's gun that he will swap again until it has some larger effect or meaning.
Regarding Cassandra Nova, I honestly thought she leaned too hard into the David Lynch style directions Morrison can go. Her motivation for the massacre was ultimately that she was a person who wasn't real who didn't think the universe was real and hated Xavier. I am often a critic of people simplifying Morrison (All-Star Superman suffered as an animated movie.) But I think his presentation of Cassandra was as muddled as it was creepy.
Sinister feels like he could have more concrete motives for the massacre than Cassandra did.
Overall, worth noting that not only did Storm get her 70s costume but Nightcrawler joined the credits. Colossus, Kitty Pryde, and Wolverine's brown costume feel inevitable to me going forward.
I feel like the show may actually be taking the long way around to the unaired pilot, Pryde of the X-Men, and towards the Claremont era, which I noted in a previous post we'd skipped in the show's continuity aside from Phoenix Saga.
Oh. And it's probably worth noting the overall Legion of Super-Heroes vibes going on, which may influence things.
Obviously, Gladiator IS purple Superman and the Guard are the Legion of Super-Heroes, essentially. But it's worth remembering that Storm, Nightcrawler, and Colossus were created by Cockrum and pitched to DC during his run on Legion. Colossus was meant to be Ferro Lad's brother!
That itself is ripe for unpacking parallels as Ferro Lad died defeating the Sun Eater whereas Colossus' actual sister at Marvel went to the dark dimension. LSH writer Tom Peyer did an extended riff on this in the 90s by establishing Ferro as essentially a 20th century mutant with a brother aligned with a team heavily inspired by the 70s X-Men.
Incidentally, in today's litigious world, I wonder how long before someone at Warner Bros. wakes up and realizes that they may technically own Colossus, Storm, and Nightcrawler. Cockrum was under work-for-hire when he pitched it and the current stance of big multinationals is that pitches made by WFH freelancers are part of the paid for work product of the for-hire arrangement and they own anything they reject from those people. (It's different with outside pitches but Cockrum's pitches were arguably part of the job they were paying him for.)
Before you say too much time has elapsed, DC did just assert ownership of Jack Kirby's Machine Man at Marvel.
See... WB owned the 2001 movie rights and licensed them to Marvel for an adaptation. As you may know, Kirby went WILDLY off script from either the book or movie and created Machine Man there. WB's position (which is actually consistent with situations like Red Sonja's and typical Marvel licensing agreements) is that they own all the wildly off-script changes made by Kirby, including Machine Man. And they just decided to assert it this year and assign ownership of him to DC.
Point being, if they're going around now shoring up 50 year old stuff they let slide, they probably have a semi-legit claim to yanking Nightcrawler, Storm, and Colossus from Marvel. Let's see if they realize that.
Can I just say that Xavier was absolutely SLAYING in his entrance? They gave him SOOOOO much eyeliner 👀
He had to keep up with Lilandra the eyeliner queen.
Lifedeath felt very fast-paced, more Part 1. I think perhaps they could've A. given the first installment a proper episode, see more trial and error of restoring Storm's powers and make Forge's declaration of his feelings feel less out of nowhere, or B. make the whole arc 5-7 minute installments that span across the season (not unlike Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars). Though, since they probably weren't sure they were getting another season at the time, the latter idea probably wasn't feasible.
My guess is that they could revive Gambit, have his mind warped by Sinister, to integrate that time in the comics when Remy worked for him (it was before I started collecting, so I don't know much about it). I hadn't thought of Bastion being involved, even though he was in that pic with Forge (if obscured); I figured maybe they'd give him a separate arc later, but wiping out Genosha feels like it could easily fit into his plans vis-a-vie Zero Tolerance.
Unrelated note, the pronounced/detailed/colored lips on Xavier and Charles look weird. They've looked weird this whole time.
Mohawk Storm is my fav.
I love the Storm costume. Big fan of the headpieces for her. I was never big on the X-Men space plots. I have a feeling Age of Apocalypse will show up by the end. Bishop was trying to avoid his future and instead created Cable's. It'll be interesting
They did AoA on the original series.
@starri they never finished. There was no real resolution to Cable's story.
Can't believe Charles is into pet play. The thirst is real in thia show and love it. Great episode, Storm plot felt a little rush but like it.
I'm not watching the show but your reactions are entertaining
Personally I love the show, at first I was hesitant because it just felt like a nostalgia grab but when I actually started watching it during the first episode i was so happy cause it felt like such a breathe of fresh air from the MCU.
It feels like all Marvel media nowadays, outside of Spiderman, has to be homogenized in some way to be more like the MCU. Ultimate Alliance 3, Marvels avengers, the comics, the avengers assemble cartoon, etc. so when this hit I was like “wow it takes me back to an era when adaptations of the comics could be different”. And then I saw the stupid doctor strange magic on forge and I got pissed