Thanks for playing! I do hope you got _some_ enjoyment out of this dated experience. Hopefully it should make a bit more sense where decision to revamp the game from the ground up came from. Although... considering how so-so the reception for the decision to use only FM-styled compositions was, I wonder if they'll listen?
Was there an explanation for why this released? It kinda just appeared outta left-field, and we never got a story for why it was just suddenly released. Did Joseph Waters approve of it? Was this just the last development build before everything on XG went silent??
It got leaked, it was supposed to be released later, in a more completed state but _someone_ got nosey, got a hold of a build (among other more or less unrelated ones), uploaded it onto webarchive and then proceeded to post the link to it on 4chan where it would proceed to spread like wildfire. As for the other questions, Joesph did have a part in New!XG's development before he went radio silent all of a sudden, leaving Euan to basically take his place. To be honest, considering that XG was originally Euan's project I feel like this is still able to be considered a good thing. Additionally, I can't blame Joesph for silently leaving... for all intents and purposes he had been known as "the Sonic XG guy" for many, _many_ years prior, so with the advent of New!XG and XG:Classic, he had an out and he took it; he's free now. As for whether or not this was the final build before things went radio-silent... _kind of._ That would have to be the New Menu / Time Attack build that was worked on around 2017, images of which he posted to the Sonic Retro forums. The only build of that which I have access to has an incomplete version of Final Fall act 1; it was _less complete than the 2007 demo._ In reality, this build was basically me unofficially building off of the last saved pre-widescreen MFA (basically the Clickteam equivalent to source code, for those unaware) dated 2016 (not 2017, as some might mistakenly believe). It was mostly complete, so for all intents and purposes I had plenty to work with, especially with the Sonic spritework "cache" that I had done for "XG Sonic in S3AIR" with the help of someone else prior to starting the project back sometime during late 2020. However, the unmodified version of said MFA could more specifically be considered the final, _most complete_ development build before said development went radio-silent, but not the final one _in general._ Despite it getting leaked, this actually helped me catch and address a few oversights I previously either didn't know about or didn't consider, so if anything this "global playtest" has really helped me out!
@@Raiz136 I see, always felt confused hearing about XG Classic so casually, as if one of the most beloved ""cancelled"" Sonic fangames in history _hadn't_ just been completed and released out of nowhere. Still wanna ask though, where did you get the MFA for everything? Considering XG's rep, I thought most people would know it was in someone else's hands now. Very curious on the history of how XG Classic came to start.
It quite literally came to be as a result of me starting a now defunct discord server centered around Sonic XG research, which over the process of the process of the week of November 22nd, 2020 (the 22nd through to the 28th specifically). The long and short of it? Some mad lad actually managed to get ahold of Joesph and suggested he create a Discord account and join the server, where he answered some burning questions about XG that were just begging to be answered. This was how the bizarre "Metal Sonic gives Tails a first-hand chance to experience what inevitably happens to players when they play Misty Maze act 4 without debug mode in Sonic Megamix" plot point was revealed to us, alongside the final boss of XG being actually Metal Sonic, not Eggman... at least prior to the Super Sonic sequence that followed. While I don't particularly like that plot point, it's all I really have in terms of a proper "ending" to XG as far as XG:Classic is concerned, so I'll take what I can get, even if begrudgingly. In retrospect, it was surprising how easily he just... _shared_ the MFAs with us. The at the time unreleased 2014 demo we had beforehand, but he just dropped the bombshell that was the 2016 MFA and we were just floored. It needed a _a lot_ of work, but I put in the time to at the least fix the more glaring issues like the "god mode" bug, where beating a stage or generally finding a way to restart a frame while Super would cause the invulnerability to remain in effect while the player character was in their base state, alongside the more bizarre oversights like Super States somehow jumping _lower_ than their respective base states while underwater and certain stage hazards lacking hurt detection, among many other things. Anyways, in terms of other things that we found out... it turns out that as of November 2020, Joesph had barely had the time to work on XG. Additionally, if I remember correctly, Joesph had made prior attempts to get XG's development back into gear proper which fizzled out, though I can't be certain if that is what he said, just that something along those lines was revealed. He basically was on his own, since at the time he and Euan had fallen out of contact (although this would later change).
@@Raiz136 Holy shit, can't believe after so long I finally understand the full story behind everything. Joseph really was generous to actually present you guys with the source code for XG itself; can't believe just how simple the interaction truly was. Amazing stuff, and for real, thank you for taking the time to answer all these nagging questions I've had about XG. They've been brewing for a long time lmao I wish you luck on your future endeavors and beyond -and nice reference to debugless Misty Maze act 4 lmao 😭😭-
The fact that this was *supposed* to be finished 5 years ago and yet only now has these old builds showing what it would’ve looked like if it was actually completed 5 years ago only makes my belief that this game had/still has a troubled development history even stronger
Wait wait, so this is the original version while the newer version is still being made?! I…I’m so happy I can finally play this version, it’s a dream come true. :)
I'm actually mindblown to see that this game is actually as old as it is. This game could get away with the way it's develop today, but only as a base. With a couple of overhauls, this game can shape itself to be something better and modern at the same time. Great 2 hour longplay Jaypin
I have been waiting for this game ever since I stumbled upon a YT video of it when I was browsing UA-cam in its early years. It wasn’t as exciting as I thought it would be, but then again this was made in the 2000’s during the rising amount of Sonic fangames and I have no complaints about it at all. More power to those who enjoy(ed) it!
I was still in school when the first demo came out! I remember being super excited for the game for a very long time. It's surreal to see the whole thing after all this time!
At first I thought this game was kinda terrible when I 1st played it last night, but the more I played and better my skills got .. it was actually quite fun! I like it 👍🔥
"Another thing worth noting is that I MIGHT attempt playthroughs with both Tails & Knuckles separately to see if there's any differences." Well, I'm not part of the dev team, but I do know there are some differences for a Knuckles playthrough. Mind you, I'm not sure if there is enough for an entire video, but... Knuckles has a different intro, some unique routes, and extra boss fights involving a certain Fanged Sniper. His version of the initial Furious Finale Act 2 (the one before the revisit to Cosmic Chasm) also has a different theme than Sonic's. Tails on the other hand has relatively few differences for his playthrough, but he does miss out on Furious Finale Act 2 entirely for... reasons. Hope this answers your questions!
Excuse me but... WHAT THE FACK!? THIS GAME JUST RELEASED??? i've been dreaming about playing this game ever since its first demo came out years ago. After some time i accepted that it would never release, and now... here we are.
bro, what version of this game do you have, I downloaded the classic upgrade, my game is lagging, and so on, how did you set up the game that you don't lag without brakes?
i encountered a strange glitch on classic the first boss didnt show up and i was watching your video to see what i did wrong and then i was like oh this is a softlock
I thought this game was dead ive heard rumors that it was still being worked on but im gald it finished and also the music for chaos central it sounds really fimliar?
Sorry, this is awful. Most levels are boring, and some of them are an absolute mess (that time warp level, cool concept but shambolically put together). Bad Enemy placements mean that you’re basically running into hazards that are unavoidable unless you take the level really slowly (which defeats the purpose of a sonic game) Id recommend playing Sonic Triple Trouble instead.
Honestly same the ideas in some of these zones are really cool, like Cosmic Chasm, but they’re very undercooked. And some of the zones are bizarre, why is Cosmic Chasm placed between Palm Paradiso and Hydro Haven? With NO transition between them? The boss idea for the zone would’ve worked better for a penultimate zone, given that it’s in space. And Palm Paradiso is also odd. At first I thought Paradiso was a misspelling but it quite literally means Heaven, yet that idea is never fleshed out to the point that it might as well be a typo. All in all I hope the game gets updated so it can be the best it can be. Because I fear the game peaks at Final Fall.
Thanks for playing!
I do hope you got _some_ enjoyment out of this dated experience.
Hopefully it should make a bit more sense where decision to revamp the game from the ground up came from.
Although... considering how so-so the reception for the decision to use only FM-styled compositions was, I wonder if they'll listen?
Was there an explanation for why this released? It kinda just appeared outta left-field, and we never got a story for why it was just suddenly released. Did Joseph Waters approve of it? Was this just the last development build before everything on XG went silent??
It got leaked, it was supposed to be released later, in a more completed state but _someone_ got nosey, got a hold of a build (among other more or less unrelated ones), uploaded it onto webarchive and then proceeded to post the link to it on 4chan where it would proceed to spread like wildfire.
As for the other questions, Joesph did have a part in New!XG's development before he went radio silent all of a sudden, leaving Euan to basically take his place. To be honest, considering that XG was originally Euan's project I feel like this is still able to be considered a good thing.
Additionally, I can't blame Joesph for silently leaving... for all intents and purposes he had been known as "the Sonic XG guy" for many, _many_ years prior, so with the advent of New!XG and XG:Classic, he had an out and he took it; he's free now.
As for whether or not this was the final build before things went radio-silent... _kind of._ That would have to be the New Menu / Time Attack build that was worked on around 2017, images of which he posted to the Sonic Retro forums. The only build of that which I have access to has an incomplete version of Final Fall act 1; it was _less complete than the 2007 demo._
In reality, this build was basically me unofficially building off of the last saved pre-widescreen MFA (basically the Clickteam equivalent to source code, for those unaware) dated 2016 (not 2017, as some might mistakenly believe). It was mostly complete, so for all intents and purposes I had plenty to work with, especially with the Sonic spritework "cache" that I had done for "XG Sonic in S3AIR" with the help of someone else prior to starting the project back sometime during late 2020.
However, the unmodified version of said MFA could more specifically be considered the final, _most complete_ development build before said development went radio-silent, but not the final one _in general._
Despite it getting leaked, this actually helped me catch and address a few oversights I previously either didn't know about or didn't consider, so if anything this "global playtest" has really helped me out!
@@Raiz136 I see, always felt confused hearing about XG Classic so casually, as if one of the most beloved ""cancelled"" Sonic fangames in history _hadn't_ just been completed and released out of nowhere.
Still wanna ask though, where did you get the MFA for everything? Considering XG's rep, I thought most people would know it was in someone else's hands now. Very curious on the history of how XG Classic came to start.
It quite literally came to be as a result of me starting a now defunct discord server centered around Sonic XG research, which over the process of the process of the week of November 22nd, 2020 (the 22nd through to the 28th specifically).
The long and short of it? Some mad lad actually managed to get ahold of Joesph and suggested he create a Discord account and join the server, where he answered some burning questions about XG that were just begging to be answered.
This was how the bizarre "Metal Sonic gives Tails a first-hand chance to experience what inevitably happens to players when they play Misty Maze act 4 without debug mode in Sonic Megamix" plot point was revealed to us, alongside the final boss of XG being actually Metal Sonic, not Eggman... at least prior to the Super Sonic sequence that followed. While I don't particularly like that plot point, it's all I really have in terms of a proper "ending" to XG as far as XG:Classic is concerned, so I'll take what I can get, even if begrudgingly.
In retrospect, it was surprising how easily he just... _shared_ the MFAs with us. The at the time unreleased 2014 demo we had beforehand, but he just dropped the bombshell that was the 2016 MFA and we were just floored.
It needed a _a lot_ of work, but I put in the time to at the least fix the more glaring issues like the "god mode" bug, where beating a stage or generally finding a way to restart a frame while Super would cause the invulnerability to remain in effect while the player character was in their base state, alongside the more bizarre oversights like Super States somehow jumping _lower_ than their respective base states while underwater and certain stage hazards lacking hurt detection, among many other things.
Anyways, in terms of other things that we found out... it turns out that as of November 2020, Joesph had barely had the time to work on XG. Additionally, if I remember correctly, Joesph had made prior attempts to get XG's development back into gear proper which fizzled out, though I can't be certain if that is what he said, just that something along those lines was revealed.
He basically was on his own, since at the time he and Euan had fallen out of contact (although this would later change).
@@Raiz136 Holy shit, can't believe after so long I finally understand the full story behind everything. Joseph really was generous to actually present you guys with the source code for XG itself; can't believe just how simple the interaction truly was. Amazing stuff, and for real, thank you for taking the time to answer all these nagging questions I've had about XG. They've been brewing for a long time lmao
I wish you luck on your future endeavors and beyond -and nice reference to debugless Misty Maze act 4 lmao 😭😭-
The fact that this was *supposed* to be finished 5 years ago and yet only now has these old builds showing what it would’ve looked like if it was actually completed 5 years ago only makes my belief that this game had/still has a troubled development history even stronger
Oh, believe me.
*It has.*
@@Raiz136 That’s exactly what I thought.
Wait wait, so this is the original version while the newer version is still being made?!
I…I’m so happy I can finally play this version, it’s a dream come true. :)
I'm actually mindblown to see that this game is actually as old as it is. This game could get away with the way it's develop today, but only as a base. With a couple of overhauls, this game can shape itself to be something better and modern at the same time. Great 2 hour longplay Jaypin
I have been waiting for this game ever since I stumbled upon a YT video of it when I was browsing UA-cam in its early years. It wasn’t as exciting as I thought it would be, but then again this was made in the 2000’s during the rising amount of Sonic fangames and I have no complaints about it at all. More power to those who enjoy(ed) it!
I was still in school when the first demo came out! I remember being super excited for the game for a very long time. It's surreal to see the whole thing after all this time!
The last time this had any release was back when I was in the 11th grade. Now I am 31... Can't believe I lived long enough to finally get to play it!
Oh my gosh, I hadn't noticed that there was already a full version now!
In an alternate universe/timeline, this game out for either 32x or saturn, definitely gave me like, mirage saloon vibes.
At first I thought this game was kinda terrible when I 1st played it last night, but the more I played and better my skills got .. it was actually quite fun! I like it 👍🔥
Finally... The moment has arrived...
Sonic XG (EXtended Genesis) is here at last!
Sonic Unleashed had the whole planet break apart, and Sonic fixed it! So, Angel Island breaking up is almost nothing.😃😎 great gameplay!
I can't believe Sonic XG got released before GTA 6
Sonic XG is the most exciting fan game!
Sonic XG 0/100
"Another thing worth noting is that I MIGHT attempt playthroughs with both Tails & Knuckles separately to see if there's any differences."
Well, I'm not part of the dev team, but I do know there are some differences for a Knuckles playthrough. Mind you, I'm not sure if there is enough for an entire video, but...
Knuckles has a different intro, some unique routes, and extra boss fights involving a certain Fanged Sniper. His version of the initial Furious Finale Act 2 (the one before the revisit to Cosmic Chasm) also has a different theme than Sonic's.
Tails on the other hand has relatively few differences for his playthrough, but he does miss out on Furious Finale Act 2 entirely for... reasons.
Hope this answers your questions!
Not to mention that this has been in development since 2002
And srb2 was in development since tgf.
Holy. Shit. I'm still in shock this game was kinda completed. It's older than I am and I've deadass been following it for most of my life. Insane.
Cool video! Finally the full game of Sonic XG is out!
FINALLY FOR FULL RELEASE!!!!
Fun Fact: this game took 20 years to complete (or if I was wrong, idk?)
The game was in development since 2002, so over 20 years. Crazy, right?
@@MissUmbra holy crap thats a lot of time. i havent watched the video yet so im expecting a lot of cool things
I remember this because it had a great remix of the Marvel vs Capcom staff roll theme. Glad to see their efforts paid off in full!
Sonic XG is the most brilliant and fantastic 2D Sonic fan game of all time. 💙🦔💙
We need Sonic games like these on PS5 and other Consoles in the future
1:04:45 this is freedom planete levei reference
Excuse me but... WHAT THE FACK!? THIS GAME JUST RELEASED???
i've been dreaming about playing this game ever since its first demo came out years ago. After some time i accepted that it would never release, and now... here we are.
This could've been Sonic 4 for the Sega 32X easily.
Sonic Triple Trouble 16 Bits: 🗿
The Saga Begins!
Extraordinary walkthrought,Jaypin88
That's my favourite game
I only knew the demo of that game,thanks for share it
Grettings from Argentina👋🏻🇦🇷
It good to know that sonic xg is still alive but I think this game need a lot of improvement and modification
In the game you hear the game saying "GO!" In the data select
You can finally download the game!
That special Stage looks funner than sonic 2 and sonic cd lol the pain
THIS is the game I always hoped Sega would make.
Btw the reason why the "go to cosmic chasm" screen has tails in it is because the bad ending was going to have Tails be drowned by Metal Sonic.
What 😭
Alv Sonic 2 (8 Bits) se queda corto
Я хочу чтобы вышла новая игра про Соника где есть в котором ты играешь сейчас я тебя люблю блоггер❤
XG'S BEEN FINISHED!?
Does any of this matter??
It's Sonic the Hedgehog in 2D,and it is far out man!!!
I liked the part that I desert dash when he gets the 1up monitor it had a good beat tho
The Sequel of Sonic the Hedgehog (16-bit)
What makes no sense is the Emeralds should be Super Emeralds, not Chaos Emeralds.
And Robot Resort was originally a part of Retro Sonic.
1:31:35 Sonic Nexus Sonic xg
This is like if sonic 3 and knuckles was bigger.
Sonic 3 and Knuckles *+*
bro, what version of this game do you have, I downloaded the classic upgrade, my game is lagging, and so on, how did you set up the game that you don't lag without brakes?
NO WAY WHAT THEY ACTUALLY FINISHED IT I REMEMBER THIS FROM YEARS AGO!!!!???!!?
edit: what happened to the final fall music :(
edit 2: never mind :)
You got played.
...Respectfully, of course.
Sonic the Hedgehog II: Sonic eXtended Genesis
Hold up this isn’t the finals falls theme I know
Act2
i encountered a strange glitch on classic the first boss didnt show up and i was watching your video to see what i did wrong and then i was like oh this is a softlock
Why are the cutscenes missing in this game? I'm glad that it's out, but when it's not finished tho...
I think that I was one of the first people to record full letsplay of this game
Doilus stage? Never heard of that before.
Tis a shame they removed the original music for Final Fall. The original was way better, it slapped so hard!
Act 2 has it
THAT IS GIVING CAPCOM REALNESS I LOVE YOU YASSSSSSS👑👑👑👑😊😊💙💙💙💙
Ws with the banger sonic CD songs!!!!
SONIC ROBO BLAST 2?!?!?!!?!?
I dont understand why this game cant let you repeat the special stages after lose?😒😒
Now this is the true sonic 4
It's 5 or even 10 times better Sonic Triple Trouble 16 Bits
I thought this game was dead ive heard rumors that it was still being worked on but im gald it finished and also the music for chaos central it sounds really fimliar?
this is alright but the physics in the remake looks super fun. Can't wait for it to come out in 5 years
The game looks great but I don’t really understand the bonus stage?
이 게임이 완성본이 있었구나.
It pisses me how it calls the super emeralds chaos emeralds.
Sonic XG 500/10 1:50:16
Sonic XG didn't create the whole games someone created not final fall (it change layout ) the music and others not the orgianl
No this game for android?
Cadê
1:49:49 otra vez no 💀
iOS?
I thinked that the game got cancelled bruh
No dndroid sad
Awesome hack!!
It's a whole fan game, not a hack
@@paulo547Oh, yo Paulo.
@@Ninjacat25 Hey man wassup
@@paulo547 Not much. You?
@@Ninjacat25 Mwell, i'm doin' pretty good. I hope it will get better for you tho
Give my Android Games Please ???
😊😊💙💙💙💙💙💙💛💛💵💵💵💵💵💵👑👑
Sorry, this is awful. Most levels are boring, and some of them are an absolute mess (that time warp level, cool concept but shambolically put together). Bad Enemy placements mean that you’re basically running into hazards that are unavoidable unless you take the level really slowly (which defeats the purpose of a sonic game) Id recommend playing Sonic Triple Trouble instead.
Noboda Asked Your Opinion
Honestly same the ideas in some of these zones are really cool, like Cosmic Chasm, but they’re very undercooked.
And some of the zones are bizarre, why is Cosmic Chasm placed between Palm Paradiso and Hydro Haven? With NO transition between them? The boss idea for the zone would’ve worked better for a penultimate zone, given that it’s in space.
And Palm Paradiso is also odd. At first I thought Paradiso was a misspelling but it quite literally means Heaven, yet that idea is never fleshed out to the point that it might as well be a typo.
All in all I hope the game gets updated so it can be the best it can be. Because I fear the game peaks at Final Fall.
xd or xg😄
Ya va, wtf
Waiting so long...for this???🙄😕
Lots of plot holes