Dan Orlovsky SHOCKED By Stephen A. Smith’s Ridiculous Lamar Jackson Take
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All of these commentators on these shows are ridiculous. They flip every week on players. I don't understand why people take any of them seriously.
I think Lamar Jackson is such a hot topic that they have to find a way to work him into these segments. It's similar to how the Dallas Cowboys get a segment on every show every day. They draw in too many viewers NOT to talk about them, whether you are praising them or dissing them. There are just as many Cowboy haters as lovers. Lamar is very similar. For every fan that loves Lamar there are just as many people engaged because in conversation about him because they hate him. I guarantee if Lamar wins MVP3 and Mahomes wins SB 4.... Lamar will be talked about more on the sports shows next week than Mahomes. Guarantee it!
@@nonya6022 I agree with a lot of your take accept Lamar having as many haters… I think he has a lot but not equivalent
The answer is simple: Ratings
Facts💯💯💯
They really have no clue about football and just speak in generalizations and narratives. Same with a lot of content creators.
Fans and media “types” need to go learn the game
The legacies that are impacted the most are past QBs. Lamar Josh Jalen etc are still writing their story
I feel like the answer to "whose legacy does it impact the most?" is pretty simple. It impact's Brady's because he's no longer the GOAT, and it impacts Mahomes because he becomes the GOAT (according to this argument, anyway).
I hate to agree with S.A(the assh*le) Smith but he's right. He'll still need 3 more to catch Brady , but the top qb's of today are trying to catch him and this sure don't make it easy.
Mahomes doesn’t become the GOAT. Not only would he be 3 rings behind Brady still, even if you want to “weight” the 3 peat, Brady has a mountain of other accomplishments.
Most passing Yards
Most passing TDs
Most regular season wins
Most completions in a season
Most games played
Most 4th qtr comebacks
Leader in playoff yards
Leader in playoff TDs
Laser in playoff wins
Leader in game winning drives
Leader in SB appearances
Played nearly a quarter century.
Sure Mahomes is a better arm talent. But so was Manning, Brees, Rogers and many others. Pat still has a mountain to climb before he usurps Brady
@@michaelwaninger3155and I short changed the list of Brady’s accomplishments because I wasn’t typing all that out
Mahomes has a lot more then 7 rings to catch Brady😂😂😂😂Brady got 20k plus yards on 2 different teams in total 100k passing yards ontop of other crazy ass accolades
If he wins this year he’s looking at 4 Superbowls in 7 seasons. That’s insane
If Harbaugh wants Lamar to be the best QB in NFL history, he needs to get out of his way. And he needs to do it soon because the window is closing.
Get out of his way? what is wrong with you clowns. He turns into turnover machine in playoffs? Hows that Harbaughs fault. Yall will come up with some of the silliest things to explain why Lamar isn't getting it done. After game Lamar said he is tired of the turnovers? That is on him. That is why he said it. Turnovers lose playoff games bro??? what are you watching?
@@JohnWessonbecause for the second year in a row they were the number 1 rushing team in the league and he goes away from that duh
@@TerrelleAnderson yes you got me there but wanting to feature Lamar as a passer is on Monken who is trying to audition for head coaching job but that still doesn't take away from turning over the ball. Lamar said it after game..Did you hear him?
@ you have Derrick Henry on your team against a bad run defense and you don’t run the ball more than 16 times no excuse for that
To make it even clear....they need to get Harbaugh out of there. Even if they did get to the Super Bowl, he will find a way to get outcoached.
Sarah and I are on the same page. 😂 I said the same thing. Id rather see Mahomes win a 4th than see JA win his first before Lamar. Felt the same way about Flacco and Matty Ice back in the day.😂
both of you are losers. i bet you Lamar wouldn't say that. Happy for second place are you...figures
I wouldn’t
Now that I know the Chiefs have the refs on their side I look at things differently now.
Interesting, this was said about the steelers in the 70s, the 49ers in the 80s, the Cowboys 90s and the Pats. They were all great teams finding a way to win.
@@RCCowboy643No it wasn’t don’t lie to make a point
@Nigaleto I started watching the NFL in 1970. What was posted is absolutely correct. Like most young fans, you have no historical context for the game.
@@stevejohnson7026 You have some Alzheimer’s dementia by now be honest
@@stevejohnson7026 Perhaps you are right. At the same time that doesn't mean I'm wrong. I cannot help what I see. The Chiefs clearly have the zebras on their side. helping them win these playoff games. If it was my team getting the same treatment I'd say the exact same thing. I call it how I see it.
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At this point sports tv is about what ridiculous take can you get off that can be believed. SAS made no sense
They act like these dudes play defense
I did a 180 on signing Lamar. Two years ago I was afraid that the Ravens would not be able to make good signings with great team signing Lamar and I have been proven wrong two years in a row. Now I say extend him to 10 years. Two years ago I recognized that he was a HOF’er, but now I think he is the best player in the NFL.
We should not let the past dictate the future - If Mahomes wins it does build on his legacy, but I’m not sure if it diminishes others. That being said, he is the it roadblock. We had an excellent team last year, I really thought we would win it all and we got taken down in our own house… This year, there were rough spots but a bunch of great spots too and we should’ve gone all the way, but here we are.
I’m not so sure we would’ve beat the Chiefs in retrospect of this whole season and I’m glad Buffalo got the chance. I’m still unsure that we would’ve beat the Eagles, I think they will win on Sunday. So what does that say about the Ravens season and what they need to do in order to win it all next year. I think that’s the real question - could the Ravens beat the Eagles and if the Eagles win what does that say about the Ravens.
I want to see the Ravens do a threepeat Super Bowl Championship team. In my mind we’re two years behind because we should’ve won this year and last year. So what’s your deal Ravens? You either do it or you don’t, there is no try…
too late to come back now! You knew nothing about football and you know nothing about black QBs. Don't change now keep that same energy!
@ internet trolling at its finest…
It’s no real competition over there in the NFC outside of Jayden Daniel’s and just enter the league last year if Lamar or Josh Allen was in the NFC they both probably would’ve made it to the Super Bowl at least 3 or 4 years out of both of their 7 year tenures they been in the league
Michael Penix is on the rise.
opposite if at all. If you have the GOAT as an opponent, it's less of a legacy hit if you lose to him than if he was just a good player and you lose to him...
Josh Allen really??? lmao Best QB in the league what a joke.
The SB commercial announced it as the Chiefs and Patrick Maholmes vs the Eagles and Saquon Barkley… I think that alone proves your point.
They always put the stars out front thats nothing
@@juniorluma9129agreed my point is that JH is not the star of the team even though its normally projected as the QB
@ true I’m suprise by that it should of been Jalen vs Mahomes but they chose Saquon good point
That is where they see hype and attention…that doesn’t speak to the team and how it actually runs.
So fuck defense and special teams? QB is the only position that matters? Defense wins championships
I’m Baltimore Ravens fan but I’m enjoying looking at all this greatness with Patrick Mahomes who cares who second third fourth the fifth is Patrick Mahomes and then everybody else
Damn, SAS is talking about two guys who aren't playing in this game. What's with this dude? Every time he talks about football, he has to put LJ into the conversation. LJ went fishin two weeks ago and he can't even do that without SAS bringing his name up.
Furthermore; the Ravens are ranked high EACH year based on stats!! Seeing how losey the D was at the start ONLY because the couldn't measure Henry's impact!! Once realizing it would be too much changes was made!! Playing just good enough to lose!!!
Ideally Philadelphia wins then Kansas City is a the stepping stone in the AFC championship next season and Philadelphia
The Seahawks gifted him one SB.
So did the falcons 😢
@ So did the Rams and Panthers
I see people saying #8 turns the ball over in the p/o’s. I have yet to see an OC implement quick pass plays in-game, the plan is always let 8 run around and make something happen. Our coaches get outplayed vs elite coaches🤷🏽♂️
It's understandable but silly to say how this or that QB beat this or that QB since they never compete against each other on the field.
It's just the way it has always been. This is my 54th season watching the league.
Football is a team sport. Yes the quarterback has the most pressure on his shoulders to help the team succeed.
AT LEAST HE PUT THEM IN AS A Duo.
[Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen].
WHY??? Why should they be a duo???
3x MVP Lamar Jackson doesn't need to be a "duo" with Josh Allen.
In fact, he stands alone. and in my opinion above josh Allen.
Kmsl yeah because he’s better!! The difference is Lamar has sports pressure and cultural pressure on him!! Something Josh Allen could never over stand!
@@Derrian-i1n
LoL....there is no universe, no realm in sanity or reason where josh allen is better than LAMAR JACKSON.
In fact, he is not ever as good. And it's a ridiculous, narrative to suggest anything even remotely pretending that he is.
3 MVP to how many???
Bobby nailed it. It’s about Lamar catching Mahomes, and it’s far easier if Mahomes loses. It’s disappointing to hear Sarah has already conceded that Lamar’s ceiling is 2nd best even if the Chiefs lose. Because if they did, Lamar would have actually gained on him this season because he’s walking away with more MVPs and All Pros than Mahomes has in his career without Mahomes adding to his lead in rings. And we’re talking Lamar having another 8-10+ years to close that gap. With a Super Bowl loss, Lamar could catch Mahomes as soon as 2 years from now. Because if precedent is set that Mahomes can catch Brady with 3-4 less rings, certainly Lamar could catch Mahomes with 1 less ring.
Lamar is already 3 rings behind Patrick, and Patrick is playing for his 4th Ring on Sunday. Why take a ridiculous narrative and try using that as the basis of your point. Lamar has no chance to come close to Patrick.
@ No chance because you said so? 2023 was the first year of Lamar's career w/ legitimate passing scheme. 2024 the first with a legitimate 1st ballot HOF teammate in King Henry. The Chiefs PPG has gone from 30 PPG to 23 PPG. Even in playoffs from 31 to 24 the last couple years. Their offense is ranked 15th the last 2 years which is by far the lowest ever for a team that's been in back to back Super Bowls. They are trending down while Lamar is trending up. He's gone from scoring 3/10 points in playoff losses to a game where the Ravens didn't punt once.
Just because naysayers like you put a limit on his ceiling doesn't mean he wont fix the last problem he has which is playoff turnovers. Because he sure has answered every other question. He's gone from one of the worst QBs outside the numbesr to one of the best. One of the worst against the blitz to one of the best. To 3-16 when trailing by 10+ points his first 6 years in the league to 4-1 just last year.
Literally the last thing for him to correct is knowing when to give up on a play in the postseason. And naysayers like you are cooked wehn he does.
Yeah i guess he is with Refs helping him out ALL THE TIME
Stephen Smith's commentary continuously borders on ridiculous and proceeds to asinine. Any second spent on his drivel is a Waste of Time and I deem it offensive to fair-minded listeners, analysts and critics. So sorry his bs continues to get undeserved attention and response. Any segment concerning his views on anything should be
avoided (sorry about that Sarah and Bobby, it's not a punch at your show, but Smith's stuff is obnoxious).
This is literally an instance where he was spot on. It only seems ridiculous because some of you consciously or subconsciously think Lamar isn’t good enough to catch Mahomes and has to settle for 2nd best. It’s only in that worldview where Mahomes winning doesn’t make it more difficult for Lamar to catch him
@@truthbearer7891 "Subconsciously think
Lamar is not good enough . . . ." This assertion totally misses out re worldview.
Stephen Smith has time and again sought to denigrate and disparage LJ's achievements no matter how many superfluous words he serves up to disguise his intent. No longer difficult to see SS"s agenda --- do whatever it takes to garner clicks, get ratings and continue to pull an inflated salary earned at LJ's expense. LJ --
a 2 and likely 3 time MVP has all it takes as a QB to win multiple SBs -- all he needs is some additions to his offense and the Ravens defense along with some sophisticated coaching reflecting the way the game is played in the 21st century NFL.
@@truthbearer7891 Keep your speculative comments about subconscious minds to yourself. You know Nothing About Me, My Mind, or My Beliefs. LJ has been recognized as a generational talent who is revolutionizing the game. For your information, there is not a single doubt in my mind that LJ can and will win a SB, no matter the existence of Mahomes
I think we are diminishing the value of the role of a quarterback in these big games. I think we need to really stop over evaluating statistical production as the end. I’ll be all I mean, managing the huddle managing personality expectations making the right chicks. A lot of these things are self sacrifice too. I think we’re diminishing all of this by trying to say that the game has to be put on a quarterback shoulders you gotta understand the offensive line you know what deficiencies are they experience it from the pressure or from the match up you know it’s so much that we are negating by trying to use statistics to overall rate production
Lamar be minding his business and boom SAS just starts yapping 😂😂😂 he's a fan he just needs to go ahead and admit it
Stephen A didn’t lie
Hell yeah as a chiefs fan I been waiting for this episode!
I’d rather see saquon win than mahomes refs been saving that team all year
Bobby is made out of toilet paper because ive never heard him disagree with Sarah.
I think this is the Eagles year so it really is a mute point. Eagles top defense and Barkley the mvp(sure they'll give it to Lamar). Eagles got the win this year.
Eagles beat the ravens, Bengals and the Steelers so what are you talking about beat Josh Allen last season SMH
Non of them know anything about football that’s the problem lmao
I disagree with the woman. Patrick can never overtake Brady because he's already lost him. Tom Brady is undefeated against Patrick in the playoffs. Tom has already stained Patrick's legacy
Mahomes has to win 4 more Superbowls to pass Brady
But he's already lost to Brady doe
Unpopular take I’m sure. However, a lot of talk about Pat Mahomes possibly being the GOAT if he wins the SB. Let me start with saying I am NOT taking anything from Mahomes and I think he is great! BUT, he will not pass TB12 for the GOAT with this win! IMO. What I don’t hear ppl speaking about is how Mahomes has arguably the best coach and offensive minds in the game with Andy Reid! Many were reluctant to give TB12 the GOAT status bc of Bill Belichick, until he went to Tampa and proved he could win without him. I feel we need to see that Mahomes could win without Andy to prove he’s the GOAT, bc I’m honestly not sure Mahomes would have had all this success without him. Again, this is not taking away from his greatness, dude is amazing, I just don’t know about GOAT. Now obviously if they keep winning together, at some point we would have to accept it and give Mahomes GOAT status, but not yet.
Lol. You just took a shot at Patrick.
Mahomes is Jordan to these guys. Face it. Barkley mailman kemp Lamar Allen Herbert
If I was Jalen hurts, I wouldn’t even worry about what it looked like just win the game. You’ll have something over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. They wishing to get to a Super Bowl.
But Jalen still won't be better
U sure your a Lamar fan lol 😂 ???
lamars second mvp was a dei award josh allen had 15 more tds than him. Just like myles garret getting dpoy over tj watt who had 5 more sacks.
I know you want to use the term so bad but it doesn’t fit your narrative. You do know Josh Allen finished 5th last because he had 22 turnovers
Another Mayosapien using the term DEI - how original.
Are you as accomplished in your profession as Lamar Jackson is in his? Are you regarded by your colleagues as being a generational level talent - like Lamar Jackson is? Do your colleagues marvel at the genius with which you execute your work? Are your skills and talent so formidable that you are far above the capabilities of those around you doing the same work? Is the work you do so difficult that not only are you one of the few people on the planet that are able to do it, but you were so uniquely talented that you beat out hundreds of others seeking your same work?
No? Not sure? Lamar Jackson is. Myles Garrett is.
Or are you another DEI (Demographically Entitled Incompetent) who's mediocrity wasn't a barrier to advancement because other more talented people weren't even considered? Or, perhaps just another tiresome & unimaginative Yeast Yeti who uses the term "woke" as a pejorative.
Yeah, I think I'll go with the mediocre Wyte person who thinks they earn everything they have because of their "talent" whilst others more melanated are "given" what *they* receive, even if they are more gifted than your cocoon of generic soul numbing mediocity will ever allow you to comprehend.
... Happy Black History Month 😐
Dan O. is fooling himself if he dosen't think Larmar Jackson is this year MVP. If Josh had Larmar numbers Dan O would have a "WORLD PARTY 🥳". That's how bias Dan O is, maybe he should turn in his voting card. He had Josh the MVP about 3 months ago 😅. What a joke for a guy who plays in a division AFC-East were there were
three Teams that played under five hundred football . Where in the AFC North-for the second year in a row they had
3 Teams again that played over five hundred football. Come on now.😊
Because you win superbowl doesn’t make you the greatest, it mean the chief is one of the best team. Lamar is one of the greatest qb. Mahomes 1st superbowl, tyreek won that one, and last year the defense won that one. Y’all taking to Super Bowl to call someone the best qb. Every season is a different season
Let’s go Eagles!!
the bigger question is... why is MQ still on the show?!? Clearly her stankin azz is a waste of money, up there tryin to clown SAS on the side wit DO!
Tom Brady is the 🐐 MaHomes never beat Brady in the Big Games SB and Conference Championship Game
We know mahomes is great and probably going down as one of the greatest but Lamar Jackson deserves that to and I want the same for him #BIGFLOCK 😈😈
Until he wins a few SB'S he does not deserve being mentioned with the greats.
me give yall something that Noone has given. Lamar Jackson has given MORE at the QB position for the Ravens than ANY OTHER quarterback in history!! Brady who is the goat wasn't the main contributor for winning leading up to SBs & winning some SB! Brady is great! Can't take nothing from him! Lamar outside of Henry this year gave more as an individual to winning with a coach that ALL yall say is great!!! Some me at ANYTIME in the last 16 years let alone seven where Harbaugh in a game has demonstrated yall proclaim greatness!! I have nothing against John Harbaugh other than DOING THE LEAST with what he's been given the most in modern day nfl talent!!! It's an atrocity of the Ravens!!! As yall say!! What great coach has lost in the same way year after year after year after year....and has learned NOTHING??
Stop it with this non sense. Lol lamar is a choke artist! He has 10 pro bowlers on his team . No excuses for this playoff bum! Boy chokes every year! Dont worry joe burrow will save the nfl next season from mahomes
@ShinefortheCam 10 pro bowlers voted this year🤣🤣🤣DH is 2nd to Lamar in play making & the Ravens ie Harbaugh/Monken made him a non factor when it counts the most!!! A trilogy🤡💯
Low key...i agree with SAS 😂 i think Lamar is 1 3peat from being the goat. No qb has ever been so elite at two disciplines
If we're just talking about talent he is the goat but nobody judges sports that way
@@terrencemoore8739no he aint. Cam Newton & Vick were more talented. But talent doesn't win you anything lil guy
Anyone who still thinks Lamar can be the GOAT agrees with SAS on this take. Only ppl who think it’s ridiculous take are those who think even with just 3 rings and no 3peat that Lamar can’t catch Mahomes.
He hasn't even made it to a SB without buying tickets. Please stop this nonsense.
@ And that's relevant how? Jordan didn't make a finals appearance until year 7? LeBron didn't win a ring until year 9. If you think it's a differnet sport, Peyton Manning didn't make a SB appearance until year 9 and went to 4 of them. Diff is Lamar could go 4 for 4 instead of 2-2.
I wish Lamar had a gm like howie roseman who knows how to draft and doesn’t hoard picks.
Shut up this Ravens fan base is incredibly toxic
Facts@@BillyBob000-r4s they love to makes excuses for lamar. It's pretty sad
He has one of the best gms in the league. What are u talking about?
De Costa 1 of the best. Try having the bengals shifty front office. They don't even have a gm! Lmao
@@ShinefortheCam 😂It’s ridiculous Lamar is in one of the best situations in the league every year. EDC isn’t the one turning the ball over consistently in the playoffs it’s Lamar, it won’t matter who EDC acquires to help the team if the franchise quarterback doesn’t stop being a turnover machine in the playoffs
I just didn't want Josh Allen to win one before Lamar, same with Burrow. I'm cool with Hurts or Mahomes winning. Also Stephen A is in correct cuz let's say the Chiefs do 3peat. Then from 2028 to 2035 Lamar wins 4 Super Bowls. Does that still bring Lamar's legacy down because Patrick go the 3peat? Hell no. This ain't the last season of the NFL. Like he says about his A list "it's fluid" This could hypothetically be Mahomes' Last Super Bowl. you never know.
Same Way I feel about lamar! He can't win nothing before joe! & he won't. Lamar style of play doesn't lead to superbowl success
Patrick Mahomes will be "The Goat" When or IF, Patrick wins 7 Super Bowls or more.
Until then, everyone SHUT UP! Especially Stephen A Smith, the 🤡!
Stephen A didn’t lie. We do this a lot. We talk about how players are great, but always bring up who they didn’t/can’t beat and how their legacy has been impacted by it. Barkley/Malone/Ewing all get this treatment because they couldn’t beat Michael
Lamar Jackson probably won’t be the greatest of all time, but I’ll give him the greatest regular season quarterback of all time.
He aint none of that
That's for Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers.
None of your great quarterbacks have beaten Jalen Hurts in two years. Hurts got more yards and touchdowns in their last Superbowl than Patrick mahomes. Won their regular season game last season with no defense. Hurts is just better than those guys. At their games.
Lamar Jackson could really use a receiver that can catch the ball and hold onto it. I recognize he was trying Nellie and Nellie dropped the game. However Philly knew to leave Nellie open because he's not a good NFL receiver. Lamar Jackson is and Patrick Mahomes are better than Hurts with the mvps.
But yeah hurts is better than the supposed elites. Beat Josh Allen on one leg without a defense.
Lamar Jackson would face hurts in the NFC championship. Allen and others not even close. Jalen Hurts has like two losses to the AFC in his career. And he was carrying junk his first season and didn't have a defense last season. Was 10 and 1 on last second heroics last season before they gave the defense to the adversary Matt Patricia.
You are another delusional fan boy.
Mahomes has the cast around him that helps him when he needs it. He has the better team. Get Lamar some reliable pass catchers and a defense that steps up and gets him some big stops in big games he'll win a Superbowl.
More excuses! Lamar had 10 other pro bowlers on his team every season. Stop making trash ass excuses lil guy
I'm with Sarah i said the same thing i want Lamar to win a superbowl before the other guys
Idc who you with. Lamar aint win one his style of play doesn't lead to nfl success. Also burrow will win next season so you finna be hating hard on him
😂😂😂😂You vocalize such a classic hater-loser mentality. Hurts has already beaten Allen, Burrow, and Lamar…also Mahommes. It would be Hurts vs Mahomes in the afc championship game every year if Hurts was in the afc…he owns the afc…smh y’all just don’t get it.
He is in a much easier conference to make it to the SB.
@@stevejohnson7026 😂he owns the afc. He is undefeated against the afc north and Allen. Y’all don’t seem to understand that regardless of what y’all or the tv tell y’all…Hurts is a big time big school, big game QB. And when ANY perceived competition is on the other side of the field…they feel it and understand that…including Mahommes.
Flacco beat Manning and Brady. No excuse for Lamar. Trade him asap
Sarah you will say and fantasize any silly thing you can think of to elevate Lamar. this take your making is totally Ludacris. You should b ashamed of yourself. With your imagination you should b writing scripts for fantasy movies....smh....Of course this affects Lamars legacy. Anybody who has any competitive bone in their body knows this. I bet you Lamar wouldn't agree with the nonsense ypur coming up with...sheesh
They said the most I agree it's Brady… if the Bills won and went on to win the SB that would be a big impact to Lamar legacy because it puts Josh in a separate teer from Lamar
It’s a team sport and Mahomes wouldn’t be in his 5th superbowl without the defense and Andy Reid. If the Ravens hadn’t beat themselves last year he wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl
It pains me to say this, but even if we didn't beat ourselves, we were losing that game regardless. Why? Because there was no way the NFL was putting up with the Kardashians taking over Las Vegas rather than Taylor Swift (This was when Odell Beckham was on the Ravens and was dating Kim K at the same time). Now you see why the league office made sure Shawn Smith was the head ref. (Favors road team more than any officiating crew in the league, and Ravens average 10.5 penalties a game with that crew)
Brady has a top defense for all his SB wins. Mahomes ONLY had a top defense in the last 2 years.
@ Which was the biggest reason why they beat us last year. They did to us what they did to Buffalo the week before. Dominate the line of scrimmage and prevent any WRs from getting separation. Not to mention they have the aid of REFBALL, so they can get away with not getting called for anything.
Rat birds had like the no.1 defense last season in 2023. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 anything to make excuses for lamar jackson aka James harden! Its sickening
@ Here's my counterpoint. Its not only Lamar who's a choke artist, its the whole city of Baltimore. The Ravens as well as the Orioles are regular season tigers, only for those teams to beat themselves in the playoffs. And not to mention Gunnar Henderson like Lamar is also a choker.