NATIONAL MEDIA/ESPN LOVE FUELING THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON!!!! STEPHEN A. SMITH ALWAYS MOVING THE GOALPOST IN REGARDS TO LAMAR JACKSON!!!! CAM NEWTON COOKED EM!!!!!🫡🫡🫡
Yup Lamar Jackson IS a way better than Jalen Hurts. I can't stand Stephen A. he's ALWAYS trying to change tge topic, AND no one calls him out SO THANKS Cam!
They're both good. Notice they're both making winning plays at winning time. They both control the game. They both do the decoy to spring their running back. Effectively they're both excellent.
I watched that Bills game again, even though it was heartbreaking. It is clear that The Ravens were the better team. Other than the mistakes, Lamar did things at will. At will. And Stephen A as usual is spewing some BS. I hate these talking heads. They're not fans.
Jalen helped get Lamar signed so im forever grateful. But let's be real here. Jalen Hurts has a top 3 receiving corp. Jalen Hurts plays in the NFC Lamar Jackson missed 10 games in 2 years. And still only a win behind him. Jalen Hurts lost 5 out of 6 games to end the 2023 season.
No bad point... people consider Barry Sanders the best running back ever. People consider Terrell Owen's, randy Moss, Megatron, and Larry Fitz top5 receivers.. none of them have a ring
Absolutely 💯 there. The only difference between success and failure is your supporting cast making big time plays for you. Just ask Lamar and Josh who are sitting home watching the SB instead of participating in it. No superstar wins championships without playmaker and that includes Mahomes.
@@1G1F1BYou mf's are brainwashed😂😂 The Eagles literally beat the whole Afc north this season and Washington balled against them too..NFC least?? Y'all still saying that played out bs?? Who has the most superbowl?? Nfc east.Who beat Brady in the superbowl 3 times?? NFC east..Who's come closer to beating the Chiefs? The Eagles aka Nfc east.Checkmate
Mannnnn I've never seen a QB hated on this much and what kind of question is this though. Would I rather get rewarded for my hardwork with an achievement given only to stellar PLAY or make it to the big dance? Of course everyone wants to make it to the Superbowl but if I don't win it I'll gladly take that MVP...how is Lamar getting slander in Cabo/Cancun lol
The difference is conference and the fact is Jalen’s conference is a joke except the commanders now Lamar has Joe burrow a amazing Steelers defense and browns defense now for Jalen umm dak 😂😂😂
You don't have to disrespect Eagles or Jalen to support Lamar. The NFC these days is no joke. Rams, Vikings, Lions, Commanders are solid. We lost to the Eagles in the reg season. I'm a Ravens fan and Lamar to me is the best QB in the League. But Hurts is on his 2nd trip to the Bowl. Obviously he's doing something right. They should be comparing Hurts vs Josh Allen. But Lamar's name pays the bills.
@@arnoldjones8224True. Look at Lamar's record against the NFC. He is dominant. Lamar's path to Super Bowls for Lamar Jackson would be easier. Same for Josh Allen and Joe Burrow if they were in the NFC.
A Super Bowl loss is just a playoff loss. If he doesn’t win this year and Lamar wins next year this conversation doesn’t make since. Lamar will have a ring and this guy will have is Super Bowl appearances. It’s like being Grammy nominated
It’s funny that they compare Jaylen to Lamar, he better compared to Josh, Lamar have 2 mvp. He better then Josh, he haven’t got nothing. Mahomes did dominate this year or Last year, his 22 player dominated on the team
@10:40 you’re gonna hear from a lot of Facebook Ravens fans, they believe Trent and Joe are better than Lamar because they have a championship. Let them tell it, those 2 are the best QBs to grace a Ravens uniform 😂
Stephen A Smith, in the same question he said Lamar Jackson is on the verge of potentially winning his third MVP, which I believe nobody would care I wouldn’t care…. Couple of seconds later he said I’m not trying to diminish Lamar Jackson’s MVP because it’s a regular season award
Shows how pitiful of a debater and how fraudulent Stephen A is. Anything to disrespect Lamar Jackson is Nick Wright's, Emmanuel Acho's, and Stephen A's sabotage mission, but yet their ratings and clickbait.
SA is speaking from the lens of a FAN not a player. These are very different. It’s not about him being slick it’s about the holes in the narrative. Cam is speaking from the value ranking of a player. As fans we would say superbowl whether appearance or win. But the player who puts in the work day to day is more validated by the MVP. Super Bowl is a team metric and a fan metric. Veryyyy different things.
Finally someone in the media says it. Not all great players win championships. Stop down playing current great athletes just because they haven't had the best "team" achievement. That would negate 100s of HOF athletes.
DONT GET ME WRONG,,,LOVE WHAT JALEN HURTS IS DOING!!!! THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON IS MINDLESS/IGNORANT!!!! SO NOW NFL MVP'S HAS MINIMAL VALUE BECAUSE LAMAR JACKSON IS WINNING IT!!!!
That's Stephen A for you. He is a joke. Cam Newton verbally pimp slapped Stephen A with his MVP response! MVPs were great for Stephen A when Aaron Rodgers was winning them. Lamar Jackson wins them, and now MVPs mean nothing? Stephen A. showcased his stupidity there.
@ he gets paid to discredit Lamar. Shannon peeped it (too late) and stopped doing it. Remember this 🤡 said “every day I wake up thinking how to make my bosses more money and how I can get some.” That’s the same thing a prostitute lives by.
Showcased his hate for black american men. But shouldn't the coaches be held to account for not getting it done with a repeat mvp winner? That's what they did with Mike Mccarthy.
I quite frankly take the MVPs in this context because for one, a 3rd MVP puts Lamar Jackson in very rare company, seeing as how very few QBs have won 3+ MVPs & two, it's just an appearance. It's not a win & there's certainly a chance that Hurts can lose again, so if neither player has a championship, I'd much rather be the non-champion with more individual accolades To an extent, it's a little like the scenario we had when the Cavs and Warriors were at the top of their games from 2015-2018. Most of the best were in the West with the Warriors & better than a lot of who was in the East, but they couldn't get to the Finals because they were in the same conference as GSW. Meanwhile, the Cavs were able to get to the Finals 4 straight years in part because there was far less star power in their conference to challenge them. That's the scenario in essence we have now with the AFC vs NFC
Ravens need to unload some cap and fill their weak spots...CB, Interior OL. LT (Not convinced Stanley is worth another bag of coin, after the last one he got), consistent pass pressure (which could be attributed to personnel or scheme)....
Championships = Individual greatness in Individual sports... Boxing, MMA, Tennis, Golf. Not football where 33+ players (Off, Def, & special teams) have to do their job to win a game.
Stay on point, Sarah! 🗣️ 🫡 Cam has been there and done that. Won at every level. Dominated in the process, even w/o other super stars ✨ around him. He appropriately stated that him wanting his MVP over a SB and the panel seeing a SB as more than an MVP is a media creation. Then he named several guys w SB wins that we know aren’t accepted by the football fandom as “special”. Dan Marino had zero SB rings. Hes better than Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco & Trent Dilfer - combined. What do we all have to realize? Football is the ultimate TEAM game. Lamar needed Mark to catch that 2 pt conversion after driving all the way down the field and scoring. Randall Cunningham needed a “sure shot” kicker to make a fg. Heck, Cam needed his right tackle to have some help during the 50th SB. No one is winning a SB w/o help. Montana had Rice and Lott and Clark and Rathman and Craig and Taylor………annnnnnnnddddddd a genius coach. Aikman had Sanders and Emmitt and Irvin and the best o-line in history……and winning coaches Steve Young was an afterthought in Tampa prior to going to SF. Drew Brees was an afterthought in San Diego before getting to NO. Kurt lead the greatest show on turf. Look at the players and coach he did that with! Then he went to NY with the Giants and looked like he never played football before. Cam has said this before, a lot of this (success) is luck. 🍀 Things have to go your way…from coaching to players around you to who’s in the way (eg Mahomes in the way or TB12). Lastly, I think Cam should also be proud of his 1/100 ranking by his peers. That’s major!
Lamar Jackson MVP is more. Wont call him better. However the league called him better and they're the experts. Although this season they want to give the mvpity to Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson had to earn his.
QB legacy is more about post season WINS & Super Bowls than stats. If this wasn't the case Mahomes would already be declared the undisputed GOAT with his 7 starting seasons of accolades. But because he's not played as long & won as many SBs as Tom Brady he's still considered under Tom & some say still under Montana. Marino is greatest of his time stat-wise. But I bet he'd trade every single record & his MVP for just 1 SB ring. Sure, Lamar hasn't been to or won a SB but it's severely impressive the level he's played in his career so far. He'll NEVER even scratch the GOAT debate unless he gets it done multiple times because legacy is not about stats in the end it's about WINS. Playoff games are obviously more challenging as only the best teams remain so it's expected that QB play will not shine as brightly as reg season games but Lamar has also consistently underperformed as compared to other QBs in his conference in the playoffs(Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Brady)
I'm a big-time Ravens fan. Is Jalen better than Lamar? No. But One thing I can say about Jalen's first super bowl appearance, is, he took his team down the field and scored on what should have been a game-winning drive. IMO The Eagles defense gave up the game-winning drive to the Chiefs. That doesn't knock Jalen's performance. It's not like he threw an interception or fumbled to end the game. Context is everything. Yes he lost too, but, I also look at how he lost. But at the end of the day, no one wants a participation trophy for second place. Sarah needs to be on ESPN as a guest to catch Stephen A. While in the middle of changing the narrative. She's good.
IMO, Jalen Hurts is benefiting from the "Brock Purdy effect." (The weakest link is surrounded by exceptional talent, making the Qb job VERY easy) Also, the path to the SB from the NFC is much easier, contrary to the AFC.
Jalen hurts literally having a stacked ass team and even this year he is paid all that money to just hand the ball to Barkley. Every play . Hurts doesn't have to do shit and he plays in the NFC which is the weaker conference. Why the hell is this even a conversation. Dumb as hell. Stephen A is a troll . Superbowl appearance to go and lose how the hell that means more .
Its cherry picked because as she pointed out Lamars first 5 years were not 5 full seasons. He did not start until halfway through his rookie year and he had back to back seasons in his 4th and 5th year where he didn't finish the season.
If you swapped Lamar and hurts. I guarantee Lamar would have at least 3 rings. I mean come now.Lamar has to face the toughest nfl division and The toughest conference.
The Eagles literally beat that whole division this season and it was done convincingly.Hurts balled in pretty all of those wins.These are facts.This isn't about Lamar vs Hurts for me,just tired of ya'll ll repeating the same thing
Like i will continue to say and for the exact reason that I love lamar game JH is more clean cut but let’s be real Lamar career stats are better while he’s played with a worse OL plus worse skilled positions around him it’s really sad but y’all can’t talk about that which I respect but those who know about being “PC” they know 💯
As a Ravens I don’t care for individual awards I want my favorite team the Ravens to win a superbowl not one man winning an award it’s awesome for Lamar no doubt but real Ravens fans want superbowls. I’m sorry but every superbowl we can win will bring us closer to those stupid Steelers that’s what Ravens fans should want. Of course Lamar is the best QB I don’t disagree I bet Lamar wants a superbowl ring way more than an mvp award. Go Ravens 🐦⬛
It’s quite simple. SBs are TEAM stats/accomplishments MVPs are the most prestigious individual awards you can win. You can be the greatest player ever but if u are on a lousy team, u ain’t winning a thing, it doesn’t undermine what the individual player is. Lamar is that guy. He has to be perfect every game. Lamar has 3+ turnovers in the playoffs and his team doesn’t win once. Brady is 3-1 in games where he’s turned the ball over in PO games 3+ times. Teams win. It’s a team stat. Lamar can’t catch the ball too. But he has. Lamar can’t run the ball too, but he does. What more can this kid do before he gets his props from these talking heads? Mahomes ain’t winning championships with this team either. Lamar would be undefeated with the KC teams Mahomes has had. That’s a fact.
Yo..I like Lamar but y’all Lamar fans something else. They already played each other this season. Ravens were fully staffed and Eagles were without Smitty. Hurts took the lead in the second qtr…and Eagles grinned it out the rest of the game until Saquon closed it. Don’t front like it was a talent mismatch. Y’all like how Lamar excites you and looks…Hurts just WINS games. All this nonsense like Hurrts was given this and that…Hurts MADE his wrs a top3 duo. AJ wasn’t a top 10 wr before Philly…and people had doubts about Smitty. Hurts just plays a better brand of ball conducive to WINNING. And he owns the AFC…so it doesn’t matter division either. Odd how they compare specifically these two qbs …why not put Allen and Herbert in the conversation?
Jalen Hurts is a running back. The eagles run a wildcat every play. Till hurts throws more than 23 td passes and/or 3500 yards, don't compare him to Lamar.
Jalen Hurts is the most disrespected quarterback in the league. Hurts has one robbed of an MVP season when Lamar Jackson was injured. Sure Lamar Jackson has more hardware. Theyre peer competitors. Over their careers whenever you need a play they make it. Theyre better than the competition. Lamar Jackson has conspicuously carried his franchise from the first snap. He's had to do more. He's had the most impressive career. I do think Jalen Hurts improved his teammates more. Recruiter AJ brown. I do think if they switch teams you get similar results. Hurts carried the team to the playoffs his first season with the old quarterback dead cap hole too. Jalen Hurts has beaten all of these supposedly better quarterbacks in the head to head. The kid nice.
Are we really doing this? No one plays for MVP. You play for the super bowl. These superlatives are consolation awards. I thought fans wanted championships.
Smh, just stop it. QB vs QB only, lamar all day ....that's easy. Now, as a team, it "hurts" to say this, but the eagles when it comes to accomplishment.
SB appearance means you got farther. Yes it means more than some peoples opinions. Cam saying that is obvious since he shrunk in the moment in the SB like Lamar has every post season.
Cam isn't the only player that has said that. LaDanian Tomlinson said something similar when asked if he'd rather be a hall of famer or a superbowl champion. He choose the hall of fame for similar reasons that Cam laid out. Superbowl is a fan award and Superbowl or bust is a fan mindset. When these guys careers are over they aren't going to view themselves as failures because they didn't get on a team that won a SB.
individual awards are all lamar has ever won....No championships on any level....This topic is as silly as the folks talking about it .acting like your a lawyer catching somebody in falsehoods is silly. We should b playing in playoffs but instead this is convo ur wasting an episode on. Playing make believe..great
Trent dilfer has a Superbowl ring with the Baltimore Ravens. Joe flacco has a ring with the Baltimore Ravens as well. We know that either one of them is better than Lamar Jackson.
Man forget a MVP we want Super Bowl wins. Hurts is waaaay better than Lamar to me especially in big games. Lamar is never ready for big games in the playoffs at all.
You loss your argument when you said better. Hurts not even top 3 players on offense he's a game manager. Put hurts in the AFC and see what he do and that wouldn't be much.
@bgstv10001 i don't want hear no stats or nothing like that. Im a New England Patriots fan. Lamar can't even make it to a super bowl so yes Hurts is better than him. How you got all them pro bowlers on your team and still can't make it to the Super Bowl. And if Hurts win the Super Bowl Lamar really gone fall under then. I don't want to hear it. Lamar is the biggest choker in NFL. Thats a fact. Hurts win big games Lamar can't do that. Thats why Hurts going to the Super Bowl. In New England we care about Super Bowls we don't care about stats or MVPs. Remember that.
@@bgstv10001I agree with you. A difference between me and the person you responded to is I appreciate both the MVPs.of Lamar Jackson and the Super Bowl. They are not separate for the career of Lamar Jackson. Great teams win Super Bowls. This year's Ravens weren't great, but good. By saying MVPs for Lamar Jackson aren't important, then it shows no loyalty and faith in the Ravens. Unlike many Ravens fans, I am patient and loyal. Great things don't always happen immediately. Some take time.
@@macnificentjohnson7311 when did i mentioned stats? Lamar Jackson is a better QB players like Lamar , Allen and burrow carry it's team hurts just gotta play mistake free football which he's good at
@@seanswinton6242 agree ravens were good team not a great team not knocking Jalen hurts down but he have a great O-Line he got two stud wideouts ,and SAQUAN BARKLEY with a great defense
Anyone who thinks Hurts is better is definitely missing a few brain cells.
Superbowl is a team achievement. MVP is individual accomplishment
There have been several scrub QBs to win a Super Bowl, but no scrub QBs have ever won an MVP.
NATIONAL MEDIA/ESPN LOVE FUELING THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON!!!!
STEPHEN A. SMITH ALWAYS MOVING THE GOALPOST IN REGARDS TO LAMAR JACKSON!!!!
CAM NEWTON COOKED EM!!!!!🫡🫡🫡
Cooked him!
MVP DNT MEAN NOTHING IF LAMAR WIN IT BUT IF JOSH WIN MVP ITS SOMETHANG
Yes. It was also Stephen A. who kept bringing up the 5 MVPs of Aaron Rodgers-his "BAD MAN."
Sorry Lamar is my guy but it’s about winning! 🎉🎉
@@seanswinton6242 4 MVPs. I think Peyton Manning has 5
dumbest shit ever said
Cam getting better
These ppl is really horrified of Lamar Jackson
Yup Lamar Jackson IS a way better than Jalen Hurts. I can't stand Stephen A. he's ALWAYS trying to change tge topic, AND no one calls him out SO THANKS Cam!
They're both good. Notice they're both making winning plays at winning time. They both control the game. They both do the decoy to spring their running back. Effectively they're both excellent.
I might argue that Lamar will make a mistake before Jalen
Lmar is better then hurts when it doesn't matter don't let it go over your head
Only one person on a team or in the league can win a MVP but the whole team wins a Superbowl.
I watched that Bills game again, even though it was heartbreaking. It is clear that The Ravens were the better team. Other than the mistakes, Lamar did things at will. At will. And Stephen A as usual is spewing some BS. I hate these talking heads. They're not fans.
She is just AWESOME!!
Jalen helped get Lamar signed so im forever grateful. But let's be real here.
Jalen Hurts has a top 3 receiving corp.
Jalen Hurts plays in the NFC
Lamar Jackson missed 10 games in 2 years. And still only a win behind him.
Jalen Hurts lost 5 out of 6 games to end the 2023 season.
“Helped get Lamar signed?” On what earth?
Emphasize the playing in the NFC 😂.
bro... Barry Sanders has an MVP and Jim Kelly 🙌 has FOUR appearances in the superbowl. both hall of famers but........
Good point
No bad point...
people consider Barry Sanders the best running back ever.
People consider Terrell Owen's, randy Moss, Megatron, and Larry Fitz top5 receivers.. none of them have a ring
As if people think Aaron Rodgers was better than Barry Sanders; bad comparison
Hurst has two number 1 receivers. If Lamar had that talent around him, he would have 2-3 rings
Absolutely 💯 there. The only difference between success and failure is your supporting cast making big time plays for you. Just ask Lamar and Josh who are sitting home watching the SB instead of participating in it. No superstar wins championships without playmaker and that includes Mahomes.
Eagles Defense is loaded
@@omaredwards8248so is the ravens especially if you look at the defense they had last season when Lamar won the MVP
Tf are u talking about Lamar had great WRs and still chocked
@@jaydon79561 Zay didn't even play. 2 "great" is a reach. They're not AJ and Smitty.
Uh one is in the AFC North the other is in the NFC EAST!!!
Facts!
NFC LEAST
@@1G1F1BYou mf's are brainwashed😂😂 The Eagles literally beat the whole Afc north this season and Washington balled against them too..NFC least?? Y'all still saying that played out bs?? Who has the most superbowl?? Nfc east.Who beat Brady in the superbowl 3 times?? NFC east..Who's come closer to beating the Chiefs? The Eagles aka Nfc east.Checkmate
I appreciate your breakdowns!
Mannnnn I've never seen a QB hated on this much and what kind of question is this though. Would I rather get rewarded for my hardwork with an achievement given only to stellar PLAY or make it to the big dance? Of course everyone wants to make it to the Superbowl but if I don't win it I'll gladly take that MVP...how is Lamar getting slander in Cabo/Cancun lol
Jim Kelly had 4 STRAIGHT Superbowl appearances and ALL were losses. Maybe he could chime in on whether he would like an MVP or keep his appearances.
That's exactly what you're doing.Diminishing the league and repeat while simultaneously cashing it on his clout
Cam spit all facts!
It’s not cherry picking Lamar has put himself in this position …. He has to start winning
The difference is conference and the fact is Jalen’s conference is a joke except the commanders now Lamar has Joe burrow a amazing Steelers defense and browns defense now for Jalen umm dak 😂😂😂
If Lamar and the Ravens were in the NFC they would have been to multiple Superbowls.
@ exactly it really depends on conference
You don't have to disrespect Eagles or Jalen to support Lamar. The NFC these days is no joke. Rams, Vikings, Lions, Commanders are solid. We lost to the Eagles in the reg season. I'm a Ravens fan and Lamar to me is the best QB in the League. But Hurts is on his 2nd trip to the Bowl. Obviously he's doing something right.
They should be comparing Hurts vs Josh Allen. But Lamar's name pays the bills.
@@arnoldjones8224True. Look at Lamar's record against the NFC. He is dominant. Lamar's path to Super Bowls for Lamar Jackson would be easier. Same for Josh Allen and Joe Burrow if they were in the NFC.
@@arnoldjones8224Lamar and Allen woild have veen to 2 each
A Super Bowl loss is just a playoff loss. If he doesn’t win this year and Lamar wins next year this conversation doesn’t make since. Lamar will have a ring and this guy will have is Super Bowl appearances. It’s like being Grammy nominated
It’s funny that they compare Jaylen to Lamar, he better compared to Josh, Lamar have 2 mvp. He better then Josh, he haven’t got nothing. Mahomes did dominate this year or Last year, his 22 player dominated on the team
@10:40 you’re gonna hear from a lot of Facebook Ravens fans, they believe Trent and Joe are better than Lamar because they have a championship. Let them tell it, those 2 are the best QBs to grace a Ravens uniform 😂
Also they're White and don't wear Diamonds 💎 Grills 😁in their mouths.😂😂😂
Stephen A Smith, in the same question he said Lamar Jackson is on the verge of potentially winning his third MVP, which I believe nobody would care I wouldn’t care…. Couple of seconds later he said I’m not trying to diminish Lamar Jackson’s MVP because it’s a regular season award
Shows how pitiful of a debater and how fraudulent Stephen A is. Anything to disrespect Lamar Jackson is Nick Wright's,
Emmanuel Acho's, and Stephen A's sabotage mission, but yet their ratings and clickbait.
Cam cooked her with grease and she felt dumb cam standing on business 💯😂😂😂
If you don't talk negative about Lamar nobody's watching ESPN.😂😂😂😂😂😂
SA is speaking from the lens of a FAN not a player. These are very different. It’s not about him being slick it’s about the holes in the narrative. Cam is speaking from the value ranking of a player. As fans we would say superbowl whether appearance or win. But the player who puts in the work day to day is more validated by the MVP. Super Bowl is a team metric and a fan metric. Veryyyy different things.
Finally someone in the media says it. Not all great players win championships. Stop down playing current great athletes just because they haven't had the best "team" achievement. That would negate 100s of HOF athletes.
DONT GET ME WRONG,,,LOVE WHAT JALEN HURTS IS DOING!!!!
THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON IS MINDLESS/IGNORANT!!!!
SO NOW NFL MVP'S HAS MINIMAL VALUE BECAUSE LAMAR JACKSON IS WINNING IT!!!!
🗣️🗣️🗣️💯
That's Stephen A for you. He is a joke. Cam Newton verbally pimp slapped Stephen A with his MVP response! MVPs were great for Stephen A when Aaron Rodgers was winning them. Lamar Jackson wins them, and now MVPs mean nothing? Stephen A. showcased his stupidity there.
@ he gets paid to discredit Lamar. Shannon peeped it (too late) and stopped doing it. Remember this 🤡 said “every day I wake up thinking how to make my bosses more money and how I can get some.” That’s the same thing a prostitute lives by.
Showcased his hate for black american men. But shouldn't the coaches be held to account for not getting it done with a repeat mvp winner? That's what they did with Mike Mccarthy.
@ 💯💯💯💯
I quite frankly take the MVPs in this context because for one, a 3rd MVP puts Lamar Jackson in very rare company, seeing as how very few QBs have won 3+ MVPs & two, it's just an appearance. It's not a win & there's certainly a chance that Hurts can lose again, so if neither player has a championship, I'd much rather be the non-champion with more individual accolades
To an extent, it's a little like the scenario we had when the Cavs and Warriors were at the top of their games from 2015-2018. Most of the best were in the West with the Warriors & better than a lot of who was in the East, but they couldn't get to the Finals because they were in the same conference as GSW. Meanwhile, the Cavs were able to get to the Finals 4 straight years in part because there was far less star power in their conference to challenge them. That's the scenario in essence we have now with the AFC vs NFC
Ravens need to unload some cap and fill their weak spots...CB, Interior OL. LT (Not convinced Stanley is worth another bag of coin, after the last one he got), consistent pass pressure (which could be attributed to personnel or scheme)....
BINGO!
Championships = Individual greatness in Individual sports... Boxing, MMA, Tennis, Golf. Not football where 33+ players (Off, Def, & special teams) have to do their job to win a game.
I'd be happy just being the best player on the best team that won the Superbowl and so would Lamar
CAM Said, "NOPE!"
Stay on point, Sarah! 🗣️ 🫡
Cam has been there and done that. Won at every level. Dominated in the process, even w/o other super stars ✨ around him.
He appropriately stated that him wanting his MVP over a SB and the panel seeing a SB as more than an MVP is a media creation.
Then he named several guys w SB wins that we know aren’t accepted by the football fandom as “special”.
Dan Marino had zero SB rings.
Hes better than Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco & Trent Dilfer - combined.
What do we all have to realize? Football is the ultimate TEAM game.
Lamar needed Mark to catch that 2 pt conversion after driving all the way down the field and scoring.
Randall Cunningham needed a “sure shot” kicker to make a fg.
Heck, Cam needed his right tackle to have some help during the 50th SB.
No one is winning a SB w/o help.
Montana had Rice and Lott and Clark and Rathman and Craig and Taylor………annnnnnnnddddddd a genius coach.
Aikman had Sanders and Emmitt and Irvin and the best o-line in history……and winning coaches
Steve Young was an afterthought in Tampa prior to going to SF.
Drew Brees was an afterthought in San Diego before getting to NO.
Kurt lead the greatest show on turf. Look at the players and coach he did that with!
Then he went to NY with the Giants and looked like he never played football before.
Cam has said this before, a lot of this (success) is luck. 🍀
Things have to go your way…from coaching to players around you to who’s in the way (eg Mahomes in the way or TB12).
Lastly, I think Cam should also be proud of his 1/100 ranking by his peers. That’s major!
For an Appearance not a Win? HELL NO!
Lamar Jackson MVP is more. Wont call him better. However the league called him better and they're the experts. Although this season they want to give the mvpity to Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson had to earn his.
QB legacy is more about post season WINS & Super Bowls than stats. If this wasn't the case Mahomes would already be declared the undisputed GOAT with his 7 starting seasons of accolades. But because he's not played as long & won as many SBs as Tom Brady he's still considered under Tom & some say still under Montana. Marino is greatest of his time stat-wise. But I bet he'd trade every single record & his MVP for just 1 SB ring. Sure, Lamar hasn't been to or won a SB but it's severely impressive the level he's played in his career so far. He'll NEVER even scratch the GOAT debate unless he gets it done multiple times because legacy is not about stats in the end it's about WINS. Playoff games are obviously more challenging as only the best teams remain so it's expected that QB play will not shine as brightly as reg season games but Lamar has also consistently underperformed as compared to other QBs in his conference in the playoffs(Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Brady)
Cam is next up he’s gonna replace Stephen A. I said it first
Hurts is leading now we need superbowl appearances
Stephen A Smith is dirty to do this trap question!
He is using Cam, to hurt!
Put Lamar on the Eagles it would be unfair way better receivers over there.
I'm a big-time Ravens fan. Is Jalen better than Lamar? No. But One thing I can say about Jalen's first super bowl appearance, is, he took his team down the field and scored on what should have been a game-winning drive. IMO The Eagles defense gave up the game-winning drive to the Chiefs. That doesn't knock Jalen's performance. It's not like he threw an interception or fumbled to end the game. Context is everything. Yes he lost too, but, I also look at how he lost. But at the end of the day, no one wants a participation trophy for second place. Sarah needs to be on ESPN as a guest to catch Stephen A. While in the middle of changing the narrative. She's good.
IMO, Jalen Hurts is benefiting from the "Brock Purdy effect."
(The weakest link is surrounded by exceptional talent, making the Qb job VERY easy)
Also, the path to the SB from the NFC is much easier, contrary to the AFC.
Stephen A Smith is a Carnival Clown 🤡 and the very reason I stopped watching ESPN Years ago!
not the Mutombo finger!
I love this lady… one thing for sure… she’s going to ride for Lamar and the 🐦⬛
All that means is it would just be Hurts vs Mahomes every AFC Championship game
I am over the comparisons. If you'd rather have Hurts, good for you. I am done arguing with people who don't know ball.
Elephant in the room
Lamar with the Eagles or 49ers won't lose a game.
jalen isnt on the level of lamar this is diabolical LMAO
Jalen hurts literally having a stacked ass team and even this year he is paid all that money to just hand the ball to Barkley. Every play . Hurts doesn't have to do shit and he plays in the NFC which is the weaker conference. Why the hell is this even a conversation. Dumb as hell. Stephen A is a troll . Superbowl appearance to go and lose how the hell that means more .
Did you report on Judtin Tucker legal issues
conference title is not an individual stat...
Lamar is not even playing in the SB...but everyone has his name in their mouth.
Steven A is saying if u go to SB u gotta win AFC or NFC championship 🤔 Lamar is top 2 QB in the NFL ask me.
Hows it cherry picking if Jalen only has 5 years and last time I checked you do win a Championship to make the Superbowl appearance. JFC
Its cherry picked because as she pointed out Lamars first 5 years were not 5 full seasons. He did not start until halfway through his rookie year and he had back to back seasons in his 4th and 5th year where he didn't finish the season.
The man can't even seek home in peace😊 4:32 😊
I agree but josh wouldn't make it if he wuz n da NFC!!! SMMFH
If you swapped Lamar and hurts. I guarantee Lamar would have at least 3 rings. I mean come now.Lamar has to face the toughest nfl division and The toughest conference.
The Eagles literally beat that whole division this season and it was done convincingly.Hurts balled in pretty all of those wins.These are facts.This isn't about Lamar vs Hurts for me,just tired of ya'll ll repeating the same thing
The other quarterback in the game is on the verge of a three p and you don't Compare him to mahon
Ask karl malone and Barkley
Football is a team sport you put Lamar on Philly or KC he would be in the Superbowl. Easily
I almost think he was in the running for MVP also probably better than Josh
Like i will continue to say and for the exact reason that I love lamar game JH is more clean cut but let’s be real Lamar career stats are better while he’s played with a worse OL plus worse skilled positions around him it’s really sad but y’all can’t talk about that which I respect but those who know about being “PC” they know 💯
Are y’all planning to cover the Tucker situation at any point or should we expect to look elsewhere for those discussions?
Cut it out please this no debate smh
As a Ravens I don’t care for individual awards I want my favorite team the Ravens to win a superbowl not one man winning an award it’s awesome for Lamar no doubt but real Ravens fans want superbowls. I’m sorry but every superbowl we can win will bring us closer to those stupid Steelers that’s what Ravens fans should want. Of course Lamar is the best QB I don’t disagree I bet Lamar wants a superbowl ring way more than an mvp award. Go Ravens 🐦⬛
Just heard the Justin Tucker allegations very disturbing and I hope it’s not true!!!
He's denying it but damm hate hearing it
If true or not, Ravens need to shop for a kicker just in case.
Burrows beat Mahomes why can’t any of the others in the AFC?
It’s quite simple.
SBs are TEAM stats/accomplishments
MVPs are the most prestigious individual awards you can win.
You can be the greatest player ever but if u are on a lousy team, u ain’t winning a thing, it doesn’t undermine what the individual player is. Lamar is that guy. He has to be perfect every game. Lamar has 3+ turnovers in the playoffs and his team doesn’t win once. Brady is 3-1 in games where he’s turned the ball over in PO games 3+ times. Teams win. It’s a team stat. Lamar can’t catch the ball too. But he has. Lamar can’t run the ball too, but he does. What more can this kid do before he gets his props from these talking heads?
Mahomes ain’t winning championships with this team either. Lamar would be undefeated with the KC teams Mahomes has had. That’s a fact.
From now on call him CAP NEWTON!!!
StevenAJustAHaterUDaManCamThx
Yo..I like Lamar but y’all Lamar fans something else. They already played each other this season. Ravens were fully staffed and Eagles were without Smitty. Hurts took the lead in the second qtr…and Eagles grinned it out the rest of the game until Saquon closed it. Don’t front like it was a talent mismatch. Y’all like how Lamar excites you and looks…Hurts just WINS games. All this nonsense like Hurrts was given this and that…Hurts MADE his wrs a top3 duo. AJ wasn’t a top 10 wr before Philly…and people had doubts about Smitty. Hurts just plays a better brand of ball conducive to WINNING. And he owns the AFC…so it doesn’t matter division either. Odd how they compare specifically these two qbs …why not put Allen and Herbert in the conversation?
Jalen Hurts is a running back. The eagles run a wildcat every play. Till hurts throws more than 23 td passes and/or 3500 yards, don't compare him to Lamar.
See mf's like you make me sick..You can defend Lamar without saying bs lol
Jalen Hurts is the most disrespected quarterback in the league. Hurts has one robbed of an MVP season when Lamar Jackson was injured. Sure Lamar Jackson has more hardware. Theyre peer competitors. Over their careers whenever you need a play they make it. Theyre better than the competition.
Lamar Jackson has conspicuously carried his franchise from the first snap. He's had to do more. He's had the most impressive career.
I do think Jalen Hurts improved his teammates more. Recruiter AJ brown. I do think if they switch teams you get similar results. Hurts carried the team to the playoffs his first season with the old quarterback dead cap hole too.
Jalen Hurts has beaten all of these supposedly better quarterbacks in the head to head. The kid nice.
Lamar Stan's need to stop with this MVP nonsense his MVP last year was a farce move on,Jalen in his second Superbowl
Are we really doing this? No one plays for MVP. You play for the super bowl. These superlatives are consolation awards. I thought fans wanted championships.
We aren't talking about FANS, we are talking about the players. These guys are not going to consider their careers a failure if they don't win a SB.
Smh, just stop it. QB vs QB only, lamar all day ....that's easy. Now, as a team, it "hurts" to say this, but the eagles when it comes to accomplishment.
WHAT EVER JOSH LOST BUT THAT'S OK HE LOST STEPHEN DIGGS REALLY DIGGS IS A AVERAGE WR CRYING FOR THE BALL JOSH GLAD HE GONE
Jim Kelly went four times in a row. Nobody talks bout him
JALEN HURTS with The Ravens would still be in the Super Bowl
😂😂😂😂😂
It’s easier nfc
Even when Justin Herbert played Joe it was must see. Cj stroud a winner, Bo nix would be a top 5 in the NFC
SB appearance means you got farther. Yes it means more than some peoples opinions. Cam saying that is obvious since he shrunk in the moment in the SB like Lamar has every post season.
Cam isn't the only player that has said that. LaDanian Tomlinson said something similar when asked if he'd rather be a hall of famer or a superbowl champion. He choose the hall of fame for similar reasons that Cam laid out. Superbowl is a fan award and Superbowl or bust is a fan mindset. When these guys careers are over they aren't going to view themselves as failures because they didn't get on a team that won a SB.
Hurts OWNS the AFC
individual awards are all lamar has ever won....No championships on any level....This topic is as silly as the folks talking about it .acting like your a lawyer catching somebody in falsehoods is silly. We should b playing in playoffs but instead this is convo ur wasting an episode on. Playing make believe..great
Trent dilfer has a Superbowl ring with the Baltimore Ravens. Joe flacco has a ring with the Baltimore Ravens as well. We know that either one of them is better than Lamar Jackson.
😂😂😂😂 this is bs put Lamar on those stacked Eagles teams and they would have already won 3 SB’s already
Man forget a MVP we want Super Bowl wins. Hurts is waaaay better than Lamar to me especially in big games. Lamar is never ready for big games in the playoffs at all.
You loss your argument when you said better. Hurts not even top 3 players on offense he's a game manager. Put hurts in the AFC and see what he do and that wouldn't be much.
@bgstv10001 i don't want hear no stats or nothing like that. Im a New England Patriots fan. Lamar can't even make it to a super bowl so yes Hurts is better than him. How you got all them pro bowlers on your team and still can't make it to the Super Bowl. And if Hurts win the Super Bowl Lamar really gone fall under then. I don't want to hear it. Lamar is the biggest choker in NFL. Thats a fact. Hurts win big games Lamar can't do that. Thats why Hurts going to the Super Bowl. In New England we care about Super Bowls we don't care about stats or MVPs. Remember that.
@@bgstv10001I agree with you. A difference between me and the person you responded to is I appreciate both the MVPs.of Lamar Jackson and the Super Bowl. They are not separate for the career of Lamar Jackson. Great teams win Super Bowls. This year's Ravens weren't great, but good. By saying MVPs for Lamar Jackson aren't important, then it shows no loyalty and faith in the Ravens. Unlike many Ravens fans, I am patient and loyal. Great things don't always happen immediately. Some take time.
@@macnificentjohnson7311 when did i mentioned stats? Lamar Jackson is a better QB players like Lamar , Allen and burrow carry it's team hurts just gotta play mistake free football which he's good at
@@seanswinton6242 agree ravens were good team not a great team not knocking Jalen hurts down but he have a great O-Line he got two stud wideouts ,and SAQUAN BARKLEY with a great defense
Jalen is better for Now!!!
Why are we talking about LAMAR LIKE HE DONT HAVE TIME… how long did it Take Peyton Manning to get there!!!
lamar already got MVP twice, give it to someone else
Barry sanders never won the NFC not to mention a superbowl an he was the best running back EVER!!!
Why are we talking about LAMAR LIKE HE DONT HAVE TIME… how long did it Take Peyton Manning to get there!!!