Cincinnati Bengals Free Agency Plan | Who Should They Sign?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Will the Cincinnati Bengals extend Joe Burrow this offseason? What about Tee Higgins?
Will they spend big in free agency on Jawaan Taylor or Mike McGlinchey? The guys reveal their offseason plans, which include different philosophies of addressing the offensive line.
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Can you imagine what Joe Burrow would do if the o-line was a top 5 line. They improved the line last off-season, now it's time to finish the job. The offense would be nearly unstoppable.
Well we’d have two Super Bowls. Brady and Mahomes have done it with good o-lines. I’m all for having good receivers but if that means you have a average to below average line than I think that’s the wrong move.
@@bengalbrown2834 I couldn't agree more!
I know it’s unpopular to say but the Bengals should extend then trade Tee before the 2024 draft. Should also trade some 2024 picks now to add another top 100 selection this year. If we want a top 5 line and still have $ for our core talent, then it needs to come through the draft.
@@paulburket As hard as it can be to lose a great popular player, with today's set up in the NFL's salary cap, teams have to balance expensive stars with rookie contracts. That puts a lot of pressure on drafting good players. Teams that can manage that will be successful in the long term. Let's hope the Bengals are successful with that!
@@paulburket I love Tee but I kind of agree with you. Even if they don’t trade him and he stays I don’t think they should resign him. He’s going to get 25 mil min and I think it would be better spent on the defense/o-line. Idk about you guys but to me it felt like our defense is what’s carried us the last two years. Joe and the offense took a big step last year but they were not as good as I feel they should be. It always seems like it’s our defense winning this games.
Germaine pratt is toxic I don’t want him on the team anymore even if he was a good player for us. If he gets that new contract I’m sure he’ll run to Twitter even more to complain
With all due respect to Jake's point about comp picks, I agree with James; if you're trying to win, you want to add in free agency rather than lose (when possible).
I think with how great the Bengals have been at using mid-tier FAs (the only misses in the last 3 years are Waynes and - arguably - Collins), it makes sense to continue going after that tier of free agent. If you can find more guys like Vonn Bell at age 24-26 in a scheme that isn't a great fit, grab them for 6-8 million, and then have them play above their contract, it makes sense.
Now, they still need to hit on their picks, obviously. They wouldn't be able to sign the same amount of guys as they previously had been, so you need to do well in the draft.
Keep Hurst and draft a TE. No more Sample!!!
OLINE MAN OLINE! Let's give Burrow what he deserves to work. I'm good with a FA tackle & draft one at 28. Ya win in the trenches
You don’t take into account the ages of players in your comparisons. Carmen is just now 23, so drafted at 20. He was still a kid. Vol son is 2 years older? It makes a difference in strength and maturity.
Duke Tobin said they were going to spend to the cap this year.
I will admit to falling into this and pining for an offensive tackle but listening to both plans, if you're thinking let's sign a tackle to put it to bed or a tackle to develop or a tackle to place hold while Collins works his way back, why are we acting like Jackson Carman doesn't exist?? Jackson Carman showed enough in the playoffs where he deserves a shot at RT if he has been locked in all off-season. If the Bengals don't want to give him that opportunity then he also showed enough during the playoffs where he should have some trade value. 🤔
Rapien is wrong again. Hurst and Mixon will be stars if the Oline is made strong.
Mixon had a terrible year beyond oline inadequacies. We do not prioritize the TE. Act like you know football and our team.
@@brianpoe1683 I agree with Greg that Mixon and Hurst shine more with a solid offensive line.
@@geraldparrish1959 This is dumb, any player is has a better chance to play better with an improved line, doesn't make them stars. Mixon was bottom 3 if you take away the Carolina game, all of his advanced stats were not good. I like Hurst, but a star? Mot likely not.
I am drafting a tackle in round 1 either to play RT this year or to play LT in 2024. At this point I don’t care what Jonah does. Even if he has an All Pro year I would let him walk because at that point he would be too expensive.
Agree.He makes too much money,for being an average tackle.
Just curious if you guys can elaborate more on the Free Agency-related compensatory pick strategy and how/where Cincinnati might have opportunities to employ it.
IMO, James' dismissal of the 49ers as an example of successful comp pick strategy was way off. They've played in the last 2 NFC Championship games and were a dropped Tartt INT from facing us in SB LVI. They got there this past season with their 3rd-string QB. (and that doesn't even take into account making it to SB LIV)
Then, as Jake mentioned, you've got the Chiefs, who've won 2 of the last 4 Super Bowls and who have hosted the last 5 AFC Championship Games.
That sure looks like 2 successful team-building projects to me.
Apparently the NFL uses some kind of formula based on salary/playing time/post-season honors to award compensatory picks to each team that loses "more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year."
According to SF GM John Lynch, there's a definite strategy (along with a learning curve) when it comes to compensatory picks. At the NFL combine Lynch had the following to say:
"You have to have the patience and the vision to allow some of these guys to walk, get some comp picks as a result to kind of play that game. [It] took us a little while to figure that one out, but I think we've tried to understand that you can't just go full throttle. And you get some rewards if you have a little more discipline. That's never easy, but it is necessary."
Focus on defense, then draft Darnell Washington first round, dude is a freak. Get more depth in Oline. We good
Washington would be a terrible pick at 28.
@@brianpoe1683 then who would you take? TEs gonna be hot in the second round especially if they start getting grabbed in the late first
@@jackashmore I disagree. Washington is the most overhyped player in the draft. He will not go first round, in my opinion.
*Musgrave will not go 1st round in my opinion, the guy played 2 games last season and hasnt caught 50 balls in 4 years, doesn't block well and has the worst contested catch rate of the top 10 TEs in the draft.
*Dalton is very questionable as a 1st rounder due to his age and his extreme lack of blocking.
*Depending on who falls I'm hoping for a Darnell Wright or Anton Harrison in the 1st.
*Many of your TEs will go in the 2nd and we may have to reach in the 2nd for LaPorta, but Schoonmaker, Durham and Whyle are all serviceable later.
@@brianpoe1683 respectable response
Forget the extra picks do a better job at drafting just look at the offensive linemen they have drafted
We suck at drafting offensive line.
Facts that’s why I’d rather just buy our offensive line like we did last year.
I'd try to keep Perine, Bell, and Apple. I'd love to be able to draft Darnell Washington and Dawand Jones, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't work out. Maybe if they could move up in the second round somehow. 🤷♂
Wright over D Jones.
@@brianpoe1683 That would work, too. You can never really tell who's going to be there drafting that late in a round. First two rounds I'd think either TE and Tackle or Tackle and TE. But somebody might slide down that you just couldn't pass up.
Honestly we could led apple go, cam is better , cam , cheeto and Hilton is a nasty trio
No win a ring! Then worry about the rest! JUST WIN A SUPER BOWL
I'm sorry but Drew Sample ain't good at all, and backup QB Brandon Allen I'm not high on him either
Okay! But quarterback isn’t a real concern. Yes a good quality backup is always a plus. We can wait on that for now.
@@geraldparrish1959 it's a concern if Burrow gets injured
Justice Hill (Dax Hill’s brother) could be a good addition for the Bengals. Was a bad scheme fit in Baltimore but similar skill set to Mixon. Throw in special teams ability, lower cap number, and clean off-field.
I'm with YOU, JAKE!!
Is it just me, or does every off-season discussion sound like a a damn fantasy football mentality??
All the praise to the excellent work of the Cincinnati BENGALS Front Office/Duke Tobin is just overlooked during the off-season! The high level of investment in the O-line room with Vets AND development young talent is thrown completely out the window because of a series of unfortunate (and untimely) injuries to the starting O-line. People ignore individual player's personal drive, growth and development (Carmen Jackson). I have the utmost respect in the Coaches and their ability to raise the bar of the whole O-Line room with the existing athletes in the room! If an exceptional O-lineman falls through the cracks to 28, then great, but looking for a "name" FA for the O-Line (unless it's a super bargain) is admitting a failure of the FO.
I'm excited to see what the beginning of off-season actually looks like!
Kaleb Mcgary is a terrible pass blocker and a great run blocker. I mean it’s like night and day. He had a grade in the 50’s in pass pro and a grade in the 80’s in run blocking.
Who Dey
@lockedonbengals Thoughts on Bengals looking at James Robinson with NY letting him go. Good pass blocker, can catch, and I'd say he even gets about the same ypc as Mixon. But the cost savings could help the line or Tee's deal. Plus is younger.
James is 100% right. I don't care about comp picks if we secure the 2023 season and get to the Super Bowl.
Had to pause at 6 minute mark…
Vonn Bell has a C on the jersey.
Come on !! He already said he wants to win…and loves number 9 so we gotta lock bell up…wish bates would say I’ll give this 2 more years and run it…but certain players have certain goals…
Hurst needs to stay... Sample isn't even a 2 in this league. He is bad blocking and receiving. He gets no separation and Joe is comfortable with Hurst.
Why should Burrow sign if the Oline isn't gone all in on by Bengals.
Why do we have such uninformed fans?
Juan Thornhill is a free safety. There is a difference in playing free safety and strong safety. Dax Hill has never played SS and neither has Thornhill. We need Vonn Bell back. He is a strong safety.
Dax can play everywhere lol. Dax is a perfect fit with Bates, for example. Thornhill is a deep safety like bates
Dax played a ton of box safety at Michigan, do better.
Agreed. I would love nothing more than keeping both Bell and Bates. But it seems that isn’t in the works so we need to hold on to one of them and that appears to be Bell. Can’t loose both of them all at once.
There he is JR doing the dance again you got keep killing with moves that’s one of your trademarks to me
Burrow is smart enough to force Bengals go all in on the Oline.
He should not have to force them to do anything.Both of their last 2 post season losses,were the fault of the offensive line.
Remember Trey Hopkins tore his acl in the last game in 2020 and was playing in game 1 in 2021. BUT Lael tore his acl and MCL like Burrow did.
Trey was horrible most of the season.
Trenton Irwin is the WR4. Stanley Morgan is also a good WR but they don’t use him like that he is a special teams ace. Miller would be ok if they don’t bring Trent Taylor back. Brandon Wilson can be our punt returner and kick returner.
We need a better WR4 and Brandon Wilson likely to be cut.
How is Jawaan Taylor a stud? He is the worst run blocking tackle in the NFL.... we just running left every game?
Tbf we didn’t run block for shit last year so if all he does is pass block better than ppl are going to talk about him. I Just think Bengal fans are tired of the pass pro issues and are now becoming a bit irrational over it.
@Shawn Manrick Still have to be able to run the ball somewhat, there is a reason Jacksonville is not keeping the guy. That is a major flaw.
@@brianpoe1683 I don’t care, I’d take him over Adeniji in a heartbeat.
@@cc-92 Why would you compare him to Hakeem? I’d take my grandmother over Adeniji, but he is not the only other option.
Jesus.. you guys bailed on Collins like straw farmers. Someone put a Collins fanboy compilation together for James? It seems selective memory has visited the locked on podcast today.
Why so dumb? He destroyed his knee. It will take a long time and he won’t be 100% by the time the season starts. Do better
@@brianpoe1683And He Has an Bad Back!
True that. La’el was good for us and I believe he will continue to be once he heals.
@@brianpoe1683 He will be back before mid season. Maybe week 5-6. Don’t panic. Just use the draft and free agency to fill the void.
@@geraldparrish1959 The position needs to be addressed, he already has lingering health issues, coming back from an ACL is very difficult. For fans that have actually watched the Bengals for awhile we have seen this before. LC is not getting younger.
What’s this sudden obsession about tight ends?? If the tackle isn’t there then pick a cornerback.
Rinse and repeat the first 2-3 rounds. After that pick luxury position like a tight end
Totally agree. F them comp picks
Maybe it’s just me but the energy when you start the show is so low it drains me. Jump all in “Hi I’m Jake Liscow with James Rapien and today we are talking bengals free agency, draft, and contracts so let’s start with FA. James let’s start with your thoughts on where the Bengals should be looking”….boom off and running. IMHO
It's just you.
I agree on the right tackle so tired of fixing the offensive line.
Who Dey 2
James is such a shill it’s almost cringey to listen to lol
Jake is very smart to sign 2 free agent Tackles. Then draft a Tackle.
No one said sign two tackles lol…
James is the dancing man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not saying we shouldn't sign him but Juan Thornhill committed PI at least once, maybe twice in the Superbowl (3rd quarter, 6 min 20 seconds remaining). It wasn't called and no one talks about it because KC gets treated differently than other teams.
Because this is a great TE class , I think one of the Big 4 will still be there at 28 . If not then maybe Robinson if he's there or one of the top Corners ! Then you can still double down TEs with 2nd and 4th or 5th ?
Big 4? There is only one TE worthy of a 1st round pick for us and he has limitations.
That’s not true at all
@@zachsiska69 Who are you responding to?
WHO DEY!
Lol you guys don’t even know who will be available at 28 🤦🏻♂️ Duke Tobin doesn’t act like he’s in a rush to extend Huggins either. He’s still under contract with us
This might be the dumbest comment on this video.
“He’s still under contract with us”, lol, what an ignorant statement.
And yes Duke would love to extend Tee this off season.
@@brianpoe1683 you’re right; your comment is the dumbest. Move on now!!
@@Dkapparel23 You have no idea why we should extend Tee this off season do you? Your obvious ack of knowledge is embarrassing.
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Scotty Miller is a very interesting signing for a cheaper #4 who could help stretch the field with his speed. What are your thoughts with a Paris Campbell if we wanted to go that route but couldn’t get Miller? Speedster that could stretch the field with a cheaper deal. Is his deal comparable to Miller or am I off with comparing the two on their next possible deals?
Too bad Taylor is gone now
I think everyone forgot Drew Sample exists. Giving him a year to earn a better future here or elsewhere could be mutually beneficial.
Dang Perine is gone
It’s our time we have to go all out eagles gonna have a bunch of draft picks an they’ve found there qb we gotta draft well an hit free agency hard !! Go get Kendrick’s or edmunds
Eagles are also losing several players. Kendrick’s or Edmunds??? That’s dumb.
@@brianpoe1683 why is it ? Lmao if we lose Pratt why not were super thin at backer I think they can address the cb in the draft which is flooded with corner
@@Magicmann1323 LB is our deepest room in the building, act like you know our team.
*If we re not willing to spend 9-11M on Pratt why would we consider spending over 18M on Edmunds? Even Bills fans were ok letting him go, oh and we are NOT paying 2 LBs, this is dumb and shows you do not know your own team.
*Why sign a 31 year old LB that cannot cover?
Just do better.
@@brianpoe1683 yeah I mean there’s 6 linebackers on the team but ig I really meant was like outside of Pratt an Wilson it’s a bunch of no namers Idk I’m just hopin they go an cap out bring everyone in for a year let’s win the bowl
@@Magicmann1323 An overpriced LB or one that cannot cover vs the pass will not help us get to the bowl. ADG is very solid. We need a RT, we have no strong safety starter and no FS2, Asiasi is the only TE on the roster, our only RBs are a 10M cap hit coming off his worst season (and off season) & Evans who was a terrible draft pick, we have one healthy boundary CB starter, one coming off an ACL and no backups. We have other needs more pressing.
I think we've yet to see if they would outright cut Mixon. Could see it and could not see it.
They should cut Mixon
@Aaron I agree. I'm just not sure if they will. I could see a restructure or nothing or a cut. Brown historically has paid out Contracts like that, but maybe they'll do it differently as they've shown in some cases recently.
Something is going to change with Mixon without a doubt.
I would bring back Sample on a bargain basement deal. He is a really good blocker. Wilcox is already on the roster and so is Asiasi. Then I would draft a TE between rounds 2-4. I would bring back Brandon Allen. Allen knows the system. I would bring back Apple as a backup or reserve only. And I would draft a CB in the first 3 rounds perhaps round 1 or 2. Andrew Wylie is a good tackle. If the Chiefs let him walk we should get him.
Drew Sample is terrible, hell no.
@@cc-92 actually Sample is a good blocker like he said, Zac loves the guy, act like you know the team.
@@brianpoe1683 He’s an average blocker and has bricks for hands. There’s literally no reason to bring back a one dimensional TE. You can easily find that in the draft.
Again, act like you know the team. He is a very good blocker, he should come at a very good discount. We have stupid fans that judge players based upon where they were drafted.
@@brianpoe1683 Dude name another championship caliber team that employs a TE just because he can block?????? You have to be a threat in the passing game or your packages become predictable. You sound dumb. This is the modern NFL and we’re a pass first team!
Hot take... we do not need Apple. Period
That's not a hate take, just an uninformed one. But we have a lot of uninformed fans..
IMHO I want to see Hurst stay. He always made moves to get all the yards he could and has good hands.
Never let next years comp pick get in the way of what you can build now for the current year.
James and I said the name Stetson Bennett at the same time.
Jawaan Taylor is 25 not 26
2023 is his age 26 season.
I'd go after McGlinchey instead of Taylor , but love the TE plan he said ! This is the year to double down on young TEs !!!!
He has played all 5 OL spots , but is likely too tall to play interior now , and he is a true class act !
The O line will remain a liability as long as Frank Pollack is the coach. #firefrankpollack
Why is that? Just asking because I don’t know much about him pass Dallas.
They need to sign some lineman in free agency and pick the best player left in the draft with our first pick or trade Higgins for a low first Rnd pick and a second rnd pick
Higgins ain’t going anywhere
DALTON?!? Jesus.. someone take the mic from them.
Yea I would get Elumenour or Becham to play unless the tackle I draft is good to go. That way we would have backups that are capable of starting. Adeniji is better at left tackle. He would back up Jonah and Carman would be a backup guard or tackle. Trey Hill is the backup center and we still need another guard in the draft to replace Max Scharping.
Since we switched from wide zone to gap, Brown might be a solid back up option. He can play C & G. Hill does nothing.
They should sign Jamaal Williams and Taylor Lewan. I'd make Jonah play RT until Collins gets back. Davis-Gaither needs to play at LB. I'd try to sign Bell if I had the money. Draft CB, TE, and safety in the top three rounds. I'd take Stetson Bennett and a punter on day three at some point. Obviously cut Joe Mixon.
Glad you are not the GM or the coach. Freaking terrible.
@@brianpoe1683 What would you do then?
@@Mr.Incredible-_- Not draft Stetson Bennett or any quarterback. Focus on need. Offensive Tackle, cornerback, first two rounds. Repeat in third with the highest graded player at the two positions. Then pick for depth from four through seven on best player available at every other position.
And cutting Mixon isn’t an automatic. It’s a wait and see.
@@Mr.Incredible-_- I wouldnt pay over $10-15M over 2-3 years to a 28 year old complimentary RB, this draft is full of young cheap ones.
*Lewan has missed 33 games in the last 4 years. Our issues are injured tackles and you want to bring in one that is currently injured, been injured and older than the 2 we already have?
*"Make Jonah play RT", I can tell you are not that much of a Lewan fan, he just said he would be a horrendous RT if he were moved and that not many guys can do that well. Jonah last played RT as a freshman in college. I would not experiment.
*Bennet makes zero sense.