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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Canon EOS R: Detailed Final Review | Photographer Dustin Abbott gives a detailed, real world review of the Canon EOS R - Canon's first full frame mirrorless camera. Find out what they did right...and what they did wrong. Read the final review on dustinabbott.net: bit.ly/EOSRdla | Visit the Image Galleries: bit.ly/EOSRig
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Your work is greatness Dustin, impartial, eloquent, educational and inspiring. Thank you for years of non-vias free education. I am a Canon shooter and just made up my mind. Getting the EOS R today.
Enjoy your new camera. I'm glad to have helped.
As has been noted by many others, Dustin's review is the "go to" reference for this camera.
Thank you!
Good things come for those who wait. I waited fro your review and was rewarded with the most balanced review of the EOS R I've seen thus far. Strengths are put forward at the same level as the camera limitations, something that is a very welcomed change from the hysterics about how inadequate Canon is supposed to be that seem to be the current fad on the Net. Thank you for this informative and fair review, Dustin.
That's my goal. Thanks for the feedback.
There are narratives people cling to in photography and elsewhere. You just have to ignore them.
The best Canon Eos R review on UA-cam! Period!
Thanks!
I am one of the first to click on his videos whenever I see a notification!
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for that Honest Review.
I am going to buy this camera,
However, there is one thing I'd like to point out, I mean, after 4 months, you might have figured this out already.
The control ring on the RF lenses can be set to change exposure compensation.
Also, I am not sure of Canon's real reason for the cropping on the 4k, but from what I have heard, the cropping does compensate for the heating issues caused by the 4k recording.
Losing the autofocus on the 720p 120fps+ does seem strange, but I guess that's also testing the limits of Canon's best auto focus in the industry.
I have to agree the best objective review on youtube period. I bought this camera a few weeks back. I sold the a7r iii I couldn't live with the sony menus and missed the canon colour. The rf system will hea game changer I can only imagine the next release :)))
Excellent review Dustin. I plan to get this camera later on. But it will only be after Canon sends out a firmware to update all the issues around it. Eye AF is one of the key reasons I want this camera. If they update the firmware and I do get it, my plans are to just get the ring adapter and use all my EF mount lenses with it since I have so many.
I think improving the Pupil AF should be possible via firmware. Your EF lenses will work great on it.
Mr Abbott is the best, nothing more to say 👍
I have the EOS R for 10 days now. One of the key reasons was with EF 50 F1.4 I had a lot of issues with Canon DSLR's especially with small kids. Even eye AF at the moment is limited as said but I am still getting almost all pictures ok for normal usage. Ok if you pixel peep you will see it is a bit off but before you would have been happy to have such a picture of small fast moving kid. The EF 50 F1.4 which is beast in the negativ sense is now a new lens, a joy to use! Ok the resolution is not mind blowing like the RF 50 F1.2 but more than good enough for my needs. A servo eye AF would put it to a next level, I hope Canon hold it's words and makes it possible via firmware upgrade.
Hi Dustin, congratulations to this excellent review! I cracked up when you said: „things with eyes move“ - Fantastic statement, l love it! All the best!
Thanks!
I just got to this video today, and at that remark I clicked "send link at current time" to my besties
I think this is the best and most honest review of this camera there is to see on YouTobe, great job there !!
Thank you!
I am an amateur photographer, very amateur and I purchased this camera a Few weeks ago, I can say that I am very impressed, I’m hoping that I really get into using all the features or as many features as possible this is a fantastic camera
You'll enjoy the camera. It can do everything short of action photography very well.
Great review. Glad to know that ef lenses work great . That’s huge.
It absolutely is.
Very sensible and straight forward review
Thank you.
Very good review, it is always a joy to litsen to you talking about camera gear, mainly due to the neutral and unbiasness. You state the good, the neutral and the bad, and not just bashing the negative aspect the whole videos. This is what i am looking for for a review, not straight up negativity. It is happy to see there are more and more reviewers starting to like this camera.
I love the Canon colors, although i do not have the intention to buy the EOS R at the moment. But i do adore their glass quality and variety very much.
Like the news media, people seem more obsessed with shock value than accuracy.
As usual, great commentary from you Dustin, thank you.
My pleasure.
Thanks for the wonderful detailed review, Dustin :)!!
You're welcome.
Awesome, unbiased review! Thank you Dustin 🙂👍.
My pleasure.
Dustin. Amazing as always man. You helped me buy my 80D and today, the EOS R besides its downsides it's a huge step for me from the 80D which already has way over 100k shots. Keep it up ❤️
Enjoy!
One of your best reviews ever, and that is saying a lot. You provide a great service not only for consumers, Dustin, but merchants also, because you share enough trustworthy information to make a good decision without buying and returning. Much of what you said about the ergonomics I suspected by looking at the hands-on previews and carefully reading the manual. You said it right, they are off to a good start in the right direction. Personally, I'm waiting for a more mature, pro-level interface and AF system, as well as an end to the heavy cropping of 4k and lagging of at least 1080p slow motion. The rf 50mm f/1.2L cries out for a pro body to match its potential.
That's great feedback, Ken.
I have been photographing ballet performances for over 21 years with various iterations of Canon film and digital bodies. Shutter noise has always been a problem to greater or lesser degrees, restricting my locations in theaters so as not to disturb patrons. I just used the Canon R for the first time for a series of performances in a packed house and the totally silent shutter mode made it a joy to work with in this sensitive environment. I am still becoming functionally familiar with the camera but on the whole my experience so far, both in the theater and other locations has been a good one.
Silent shutter is extremely useful in those situations, for sure.
From what i see from EOS R's limitations seems to be coming from their processor which doesn't have that much juice to power those features?
That's possible. I'm wondering if an action oriented iteration might need dual processors like the original 7D did.
@@DustinAbbottTWI they probably will
Correct. It might have been on purpose to protect a dual DIGIC future action-photography model. The guys at LensRentals already disassembled an EOS R and one thing that surprised them was how much empty space was left unused inside the camera. This might be a hint that the design was conceive taking into account multiple processors and/or cooling bays.
And while they concluded otherwise, I'm hoping that IBIS is in Canon's plans. There is room for it in there.
Dustin, would IBIS make any non IS lens behave like a lens with IS ?
Thank you Mr Abbott
As always - the most thorough review
Thanks!
Great review!
First of all nice to hear that the adapters work well also with Tamron's lenses. I think the most compelling feature of this new camera is actually the new system that will allow. Not only the new lenses, although very highly specialized, but the adapters is what really makes me awe! Especially the adapter with the drop-in filters: that means that one can use ANY lens with just one variable nd filter. That means even the humungous 150-600's or the 11-24mm from Canon!
Not getting the camera, but I'm hopeful for the future.
Now back on to saving for new lenses…
There's some great concepts in the system - now the system needs to iron out the kinks!
Mr Abbott wonderful job as usual, you are the only person I would buy a piece of equipment solely based on your say so, I think if Canon would have added a joystick and second card slot 75% of the critics would have been negated, they have so much potential with this system and their choice of adapters
That's for sure. I would buy the camera without a second card slot, but there are a few other things that are more pressing to me.
Would very much be interested in your take on the large 1.4 Firmware update (Sept 2019) for the EOS R as to its improvements to issues you found. Thanks for your video reviews - extremely helpful.
Good news for you: I've got a second look at the EOS R planned for the end of the week.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks so very much! You are on top of it man.
Excellent review as always, thanks!
Thank you
Great review.Canon did say the pro version will soon be launched in late 2019.In the meantime I hold back in getting the Mark 4 until the new pro mirrorless camera.But Canon still works for me.
It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the R series. I'm looking forward to it.
Canon better comes out MarkII quickly
Solid review Dustin. I’ve owned it since day one and agree with all your points. I haven’t bought any native lenses for it yet, and eagerly await what they do in the wide angle space-and what you have to say about them! I’ll have to pick up the control ring adapter... like you said, it desperately needs another control dial. I’m also awaiting reviews on the filter adapter-that could be a great purchase too, but I really wish they had been able to include a control ring on that unit too, especially at the price it’s going for.
I agree on the filter adapter. I wish it would have included the control ring, too.
Ok, some relief! Yes some of the short comings are way behind the competition. What do you think the firmware update will bring? Canon has mentioned that one is coming. Thank you for keeping things in perspective. I do like the camera, but I was very uneasy about my decision to buy it. Yes, this probably means I will be getting another EOS R body in the future.
I've heard that the ability to use Pupil AF during continuous autofocus is one. Beyond that I think it will mostly be bug fixes.
Thank you!
@@DustinAbbottTWI
Great review Dustin , many thanks.
My pleasure.
Nice thoughtful review. Thanks. My last Canon was an AE-1. And as an owner of this model w/RF 50, 35, and 24-105 I find the output and use of the camera to be a much more pleasing experience than my 7R3. And even though I was quite skeptical of Canon’s 470 AI flash, I decided to give it a shot. It greatly speeds up shooting indoor event type shots. It removes all the fiddling time from the process and produces excellent results! This frees the fotografer to focus on creativity instead of basic lighting a wedding for instance. I can’t wait for Canon to take this to its natural conclusion with higher powered multi-light implementations. That would free me up to focus on the artistic use of my Profotos. Situations for which speed lights just get in the way. While waiting for a better Canon lens holder than the EOS R, I can still grab one of my Sonys in one of those rare cases where speed is the need.
Of all the reviews seen, the RF lenses are clearly a notch above the competition.
Sounds like a good fit.
Joe A7Rii Haha.. “Canon lens holder” 😂 SO TRUE
Great review Dustin, as usual. I bought one and love it. But, I only shoot stills so all the videos fallout doesn’t effect me. So, for stills shooters out there who are thinking of upgrading from a 5DIII like I did, you won’t be disappointed. Great image quality out of the EOSR!
It does produce beautiful images
Hi Steve M, I did exactly the same , from a 5D3 , I've added a few things to mine , the battery grip and adaptor with the ring , so I love the way I can adapt all the buttons as I like . I am using adapted L glass ( so sharp ) and with my 70-200 it's still heavy but I am enjoying it .
Very interesting Review ! Very Usefull. Thank you for all your reviews... (from Paris France)
I'm glad it helped!
Great review. I just purchased this camera. Thanks.
Enjoy!
Imo, pleasing color is completely subjective. Another thing is that I've never ever found a SOOC photo from any camera including XT 3 and EOS R to be "good enough" to deliver straight to clients and I still have to end up doing a lot of post processing and color adjustments anyway whether it's from Canon, Nikon, Fuji or Sony (I started my career as a photo retoucher and a bulk of my works have been primarily from Canon cameras). I (and a lot of other pros) always end up making custom universal profiles to get the look that I want so that just completely defeats the point about color science.
I too like to spend the time building the profiles that will give me what I perceive as the most pleasing color.
I had the opportunity to have a hands on look at this camera today. It felt great in my hands. I had some trouble using the rear screen to select my focus point. What was your experience with that? Is there another way to set you focus point?
Just come across this review as someone looking to move to full-frame. This camera caught my eye Hopefully some of the quirks will be sorted out now. Thanks for the review.
You might want to look at my "second look" video later on where I detail what has and hasn't been updated.
Funnily enough, I watched that video this morning.
Nice review.Exposure compensation works with the rear dial as long as the metering timer is active (it can be set between 4 seconds up to 30 minutes). It is not necessary to hold down the shutter release and then turn the rear dial for EC at the same time. Same as the DSLRs. Just turn the rear dial on its own. The control ring will do this all the time however, so that is a bonus.
The MF-n bar is actually really useful. I set mine to change AF modes instantly by swiping and limit it to the AF modes I use only. It is great for playback too where you can tap forward or backwards or swipe to advance 2 or 3 photos at time. Faster than a clicky dial or swiping the screen one photo at a time.I have no need for the "missing" joystick as changing the focus point on the screen is much quicker and easier. Although I use them on my 5D cameras, they are fiddly to use especially when changing focus points in the wider mid section of the focus point cluster. Screen drag and focus is much better and faster.The mode dial is a non-issue. I only use it initially to setup my custom modes and never touch it again as I toggle through all the modes with the MF-n button. If I ever need video, I might use it.FV mode is a great invention. I only use that mode now in all my C modes as they are sticky and is essentially a "super' manual mode.Just my 2 cents
Shaun, it sounds like you've done a great job of mitigating potential weakness through customizing the camera. Many users won't be as confident in doing that, however, and that's why I criticized certain ergonomic issues. One shouldn't have to utilize as many workarounds as you have...though I'm glad you've got the camera doing what you want!
Excellent, excellent review, thanks!
You're welcome.
Which camera better in both videos & photos eos r or Sony a7iii??
Asal, that's really an impossible question to answer other than to say that the a7III is definitely better for video in most ways. There are too many variables on the photo side of things.
Dustin Abbott okay thanks a lot 🙏🏻
Anyone looking for an honest, unbiased and excellent review of a camera or lens should always check out Dustin Abbott. In an internet world inundated with bullcrap, it's so refreshing to see someone who is both knowledgeable and fair.
Do all photographers a favor and avoid clicking on (and supporting) the huge gang of idiot reviewers and instead support those like Dustin that are actually doing a service to the photo community.
That’s very kind. Thank you
I just ordered their today as a companion to the 6D II. I really appreciate this in-depth, straightforward review. Thank you!
I think you'll enjoy it.
Great is the ability to use old EF lenses with the free adaptor
Thanks for the great review! The interesting thing is that the 5D iv is now available for the same price like the eos r or even cheaper (at least in my country), so considering its basically the same sensor, which of those two camera would you buy at this point? (putting the one card slot issue and slower burst rate from the eos r aside)
If you are wanting to shoot sports, go 5DIV. If you are going to do more video work or want access to the RF mount lenses, go EOS R
You make some fantastic and comprehensive reviews. I respect your personal and professional work. All that said, please soften the light in your videos.
Thanks for the feedback.
having a sensor with better iso is incredible.. one stop better iso is like trading up from f/4 to f/2.8 if stopping action is important.. imagine replacing all your lenses with versions that are a stop faster.. how much would that cost? definitely worth getting a camera with the absolute best iso/dynamic range :D
That true only to a very limited extent. Dynamic range doesn't really help you stopping action, unless you are purposefully underexposing everything to gain more shutter speed.
Lots of information. great review. thank you so much.
My pleasure.
Looks like a fun camera and nice system. I will stick with 5div for now but will be getting a RF mount camera within a year or two on the next generation. One thing this does is allow to continue to invest in EF lenses with confidence for the adapters
That's true.
You have real quality reviews, thats why i subscribed a long time ago. Im gonna sell my A7RIII and lenses to get this camera. Am i crazy? Always been a canon fan, especially colors and build quality, ergonomics etc....
At the end of the day I always tell people that their own opinions matter the most. You spend your money, you live with the gear. If you like the way Canon operates, then go for it.
Can't wait to see some of this tech in the next gen mirrorless camera. This model is on the right track but not even close to being there yet imho. But @ least Canon is trying! Can't wait to see some of this tech in the 5DM5 or even the next 5DSR if they persist with that series. Oh and I learned a new word too! 'ititeration'! @18:50 😂🤣😂 Assuming it's got something to do with iteration, but sounds WAY more fun! 😂🤣😂. Thanks for another great review Dustin! When considering a new lens or camera your channel is always my 1st or 2nd point of call! Keep em comin bro!
There are some encouraging signs there for the future.
Canon must also bring In Body Stabilization to their next EOS-R Body as most competing Cameras have.
Great review Dustin 👍
That's my opinion, yes.
I'm missing something. On Canon DSLRs, the aperture dial reverts to an exposure compensation dial when in Av or Tv. Does the R not do that?
I think if you hold the shutter down halfway you can do that. I highlight this "lack" of a dedicated dial because essentially every competing camera has a dedicated dial...plus Canon has been putting them on some of the M series cameras for a while. It feels like a missing piece on the EOS R.
@@DustinAbbottTWI well i dont like the FPS on the R in Tracking Servo Mode and the way eye AF works but other than that i like it a lot. I dont understand your statements on the exposure compensation. My R acts as expected, e.g. in AV mode you simply use the wheel under the mode dial left/right to use exposure compensation. (-/+) You don't need to half press the shutter button. So i feel in that respect you are wrong. Other than that, another great report from you. thx.
@@rainerflucke1135 My point is that almost all competing mirrorless cameras have a dedicated exposure compensation dial. The wheel under the mode dial only does exposure compensation if you map that to it, which leaves some other control unmapped.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thats my point that i don't understand - i have not "Mapped" anything in terms of the dial. In Av and TV it does exposure compensation exactly as i would expect it from my DSLR. Most of R users probably had/have a Canon DSLR and would expect from the wheel exactly that. I could not care less whether there is a button for this on any other DSLM, i would be very disappointed really, if i could not use my right thumb to do exposure compensation with the wheel under the mode button - but i can.
Thank you for the excellent review. I was wondering if you would be reviewing the Tokina 50mm f1.4 Opera series lens sometimes in the future?
I tried to establish a relationship with Tokina, but they never followed through with me. Right now the answer is probably no because of that. I have to have a way to source a review copy
Great review! Thank you!
You're welcome.
Had to review this Canon again being that the prices started to settle. And of course nothing beats a Dustin Abbott review. Looking to pair this with my 5dm4.
Excellent video as usual and thank you so much for your time and energy putting it together.
I actually recently got an EOS R because of significant improvements to performance. I plan to review RF gear on it and might even replace my 5DIV (I'm enjoying mirrorless more than DSLRs these days).
Dustin Abbott as much as we resist it a bit. Mirrorless looks like a certain future. It really does have very distinct and useful advantages over the dslr. Especially as the tech continually improves the evf and af accuracy.
Thank you very much for this great, fair and usefull review. Just what I was looking for! I'm a professional interieur photographer, using a 5Dm3 but his time is running out with almost 200.000 clicks. Also have several great EF L glas lenses so a bit "stuck to" Canon. The Eos R has so much pro and against reviews, but yours gives me a lot to think about. Thank you very much for this!
Glad to help out.
Thank you for the review, Dustin .
You're welcome.
I'm tring to decide between the newer 90D and R. I'm not a pro or paid...just family/hobby pics. I may dable with video in the future, so 120p isn't the deciding factor. I'm mainly just a little worried with frame rate if the kids get into sports down the road after Covid :)
That's a legitimate concern, so if you think you might need to track action, that's definitely a mark in the 90D's favor.
Excellent review and not biased at all. I completely agree with what you said, there's one dial missing and the touchbar is wasted real estate on the body. Enjoyed watching it :)
Glad to hear it, since this is perhaps the longest video I've ever posted.
Hello Mr. Abbott! Thank you again for these great reviews, I watch some few times over. Was wondering if you had planned to review some more RF lenses, like the 50 and 85mm 1.2, even the revolutionary 28-70mm f2?
I'm working on making that happen. I did purchase an EOS R in the past several weeks, and am trying to work with Canon Canada to arrange some loaners. It's been a slow process thus far.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you, looking forward to more RF content! Come on Canon Canada! Just sent in some Canon gear to their Repair Services, and they move quite slow here in the US too!
Hey Dustin, thank you for another great review, all the details and for photographers important aspect of a camera with no bias, impressive. I have been using the Canon EOS R for about 1 year now and it has some limitations but overall works well.
Glad it was helpful!
I really enjoyed your critique. It's precise, intelligent and diagnostic, without any "brand competitive" bias. Well done and thank you! I collected my EOS R yesterday and I'm excited at it's prospect as a worthy compliment to my EOS 5D MK IV as well as my EOS 5D SR.
Hi Clive, it's these kinds of comments that are among the most meaningful to me because it's evidence that people like yourself "get it". There's too much hyperbole on UA-cam, and it rarely creates logical outcomes.
Hi @@DustinAbbottTWI, thanks for your response. That we co-exist among brand saboteurs and those with little purpose other than to complain, there's no greater weapon than honesty. I trust that in the morass of confusion, those who seek the truth will find you, as did I.
I was wondering if the images from this video were edited or not , cuz they looked so beautiful. Are edited ? Thank you
Some yes, some no. Most of the images in my reviews have only minimal editing so that you can get a sense of actual performance.
Very nice photos!
I’m looking forward to your tests of the rf ,mount lenses. They look fantastic on the spec sheets.
The 24-105 is definitely better than the EF versions. I'm looking forward to the 1.2/50 and 28-70 reviews
Dustin, I think current lens who does have focus ring, should be able to customize that ring to whatever they want.
For example, Sony can do a firmware update to allow people to customize their 'focus ring' to whatever they want. If they dont use manual focus. I mainly shoot auto focus and that ring is just sitting there not useful.
Don't you think this is a good ideal?
That might be redundant with the control ring already there.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Dustin, Sony lens dont have a control ring. I was talking about lens that doesnt have control ring. We can customize the focus ring into a control ring.
Ahh, I see what you mean.
pinkkhang I don’t think that would work because none of the EF lenses (to my knowledge) are focus by wire, and like Dustin said, all of the native RF lenses have the control ring.
Keeping the battery the same is the best thing that Canon does! Please keep it all the same with all the new future cameras! We all have lots of extras!
For sure.
I was waiting for this review as your reviews as good as it gets! Great detailed review. I am just waiting for my RF 28-70 2.8 to come :)
II agree with the lens calibration statement. This body focus better on my sigma 105mm better than on my 5Dmkiii
Right. That's a huge value for those who love the glass of some lenses but not the autofocus experience.
Thanks Dustin !
You're welcome.
The mode dial needs labels and the lcd on top needs not be the labels for the mode dial
I agree to the awkward control features...like that slider bar. I'll have to wait for those to be revised before upgrading, but I am considering Nikon too
I do think Canon will continue to improve the EOS R system - ergonomics are typically a strength for them.
Just got the a7rii. To me, the a7r ii is a great camera because of the smaller size, higher megapixels, and even today, even though the eos r is better at focusing, the a7r ii is still competent enough for today’s standards. The eos r has much more selection of lenses and if the eos r was the same price as the a7r ii, then I would probably have gotten it.
Fair enough.
Hi Dustin, could I please ask what camera you're using to record this video please. The colors are so bright and it looks so sharp.
Hi Paul, you can find that information at the end of each of my reviews when the final credits roll.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you, I feel embarrassed that I missed that.
Hello Sir, can you suggest any good camera that can make in wedding video and still same time.I shall be thankful to you.
Sony a7III is hard to beat for what you described.
A great review as always from Dustin and I read many great comments shared below. I think its worth noting the EOS R is cheaper than the 5d Mark IV but its more expensive than competition i.e. Nikon Z6, Sony A7iii, Fuji X-T3. Being simple minded I think if Canon charges premium then I should expect the EOS R to have similar capabilities than the rest if not more. No, we get no IBIS, video isn't that good but if we paid 2K+ more we do get the priviledge to pair the super 35mm f1.2 R lens which has no stabilisation with this camera that has no IBIS. Something doesnt add up here and as a long time 5d Mark IV user I think Canon needs to re-assess its pricing strategy for the EOS-R.
This is why saying that in-lens stabilization is better than in body is a flawed strategy...and then you release half the lenses for the system without IS.
there are brands that charge premium with lesser features in all product lines. people still buy them because they prefer a certain brand. That's the market driven world. No point 'making' a lot of noise about this. If people want to buy a cheaper product from a different brand for more features, they can do so. Some brands like to ask or maintain a high price because that's how they see and value the product. the market will decide. Take Fuji, Fuji doesn't see value on their own product rather focusing on mass selling. Take a look at the massive price drop with their XH1 and XT3. they started offering cashback and massive price drop at the release of these product. Good for new buyers but for those whom want to resale/trade in, they loose a lot of money.
would anyone expect Leica to drop their price? Canon and Nikon has earned the brand recognition and it took them decades of investment. You're paying for this.
It appears Canon really hit the ball out of the park with this new lens mount. In fact other reviewers have noted that the new 24-105mm f/4 is their best yet and just as sharp (now) as the famous 24-70 f/2.8. We just need a pro camera to mount this Very pro glass on now. :) I'm also REALLY hoping that they come out with some good mid-level RF lenses, similar to their 50 f/1.4 and 80 f/1.8 -lenses that run in the $350-500 range instead of $2000+ being the new norm.
I agree with you.
That's some valid points, Randy.
Once again, a great review. I would love to see Canon back on top but this camera, as nice as it is in ‘some’ areas, still falls short of claiming back Canon’s once dominance in the market. But, perhaps there is hope in future models, but Canon’s track record is now very predictable. They love underdelivering.
I’m glad I left for another manufacturer when I did because I would have been even more disappointed if I had waited for this EOS-R. But, it will be interesting to see if Canon will ever get off their perceived throne and kick the market door open as they did back in the day. In the mean time, I’m sticking with the new gear I have now invested in because it simply works and offers all the features I need. But the old established Canon lover in me wishes it was a completely different story.
... Life moves on.
Canon is a slow innovator, for sure, but they do often get things right in terms of the whole package in the end (lenses, service, etc...)
There are a lot more innovations on the R than on any other recent camera to be fair. My local shop can't get enough of them so they are outselling their availability.
And that doesn't surprise me. Canon does poorly with reviewers and great with consumers. Guess what they care more about? :)
Not sure how I missed that there is more innovation in the EOS-R than any other camera in the recent market. That’s more likely self justifying blindness, but yes, the EOS-R is a nice camera, no question. As a still camera, it checks plenty of boxes on the (need to have) list, so it’s pretty good in that area. But there are shortcomings and missing features as (sadly) expected. It’s a safe middle of the road mirrorless still camera and Canon’s first attempt at entering this new market.
Yes, it has a programable lens ring and a touch bar, but that’s not innovation, yet it’s about the only thing it has that no other camera currently has. It’s not a flag to wave.
Video wise, it’s not being purchased for any of those features. It fell off the rails completely. But, it does do video and there are certainly ways to work with it. The camera does take beautiful photos and that’s really where the camera shines. EyeAF is messed up, high speed frame capture for sports is not there, continuous AF is crippling in that area. If I step back and look at the benefits of this camera, it’s a limited list for me. Canon seems to under deliver to preserve the sales of their other cameras. And you’ll notice there are huge sales on their current lineup because they know they need to liquidate their DSLR stock. Fortunately, there will be new Mirrorless cameras coming from Canon, and they still have a chance to impress the market. But they are facing the reality of ‘“over delivering” which will kill their underlying DSLR lineup. So they need 4 new killer mirrorless cameras in order to replace their older technology and reclaim their fame. And I hope they do exactly that!! But many users just can’t wait that long when so many other manufacturers are well invested and are pushing the bar so much higher than Canon currently is. C’mon Canon, please shake up the market... it’s good for everyone!
@@GraphicMill The innovations also include the shutter covering the sensor when it's switched off so less likely to get any dust on it. The control ring in the new lenses and the adapter. The drop in filters on the adapter. The function control is also a control wheel. The touch screen being used instead of a joystick. The rotating info in the viewfinder so it's always the right way up. I may have missed something ;-)
Great review. As is always the case any given camera may have features that best meet a particular persons needs. As a professional portrait and real estate photographer this new EOS-R is certainly meeting all my needs in spades. I'm not a fast moving subject shooter but also love landscape shooting. The detail rendered by this camera is outstanding and honestly having owned a Sony A7RII before, the noise characteristics at the higher ISO's are easier to work with with less artifacts. Love the build and how it feels in my hands of course. The MultiFunctionBar is one of the most controversial to say the least. I don't "hate" it but just use the left side of it to activate my focus point types. Otherwise this body is so darn customizable there are no other needs. Exposures on it are top flight and consistent not erratic as the Sony was. Indeed the focus is immediate so that's spoiling me.
There are some really strong areas for the EOS R, but still room for improvement in others. I’m glad you are enjoying it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'm sorry to report the camera has been sent back. I had way too many firmware upsets with it (lens error messages for no reason, memory card not there when it was etc.). Clearly this camera is NOT ready for release yet. Canon needs to do a LOT more exploration into their firmware and get these issues fixed. My RX10MkIV kicks it's butt regarding focus speed and accuracy as well as proper exposures. Go figure. Until they get it right I'll stand pat with what I have.
So many reviews but in the end I had to wait for Dustin Abbot for his objective, tell it the way it is review. Thank you.
That's a great compliment. Thank you.
Great review as usual. I rented the Canon EOS R and this exposure compensation confused me too, but you can access it without taking 2+ steps. When you're in a mode like AV if you use the rear dial (the upper one circling the mode button) it directly gives you exposure compensation. It was a pain for me too till I looked it up.
That's only if you haven't mapped it to another function. For myself, I have the front dial set up for TV, and the rear for AV (since that's been my default setup with all my cameras for years). In AV mode, however, that means the rear dial does nothing. My point is that almost all competing mirrorless cameras have a dedicated EC dial, and I think the EOS R is missing one.
THINGS WITH EYES MOVE! ~ a beautiful critique of Canon's Eye AF *and* the title of a forthcoming slasher horror film... 😂
LOL.
Actually, Canon did provide native EF mountable by providing a Canon made adaptor for the EOS R body. You might not think this is a native solution, but I think it is because the adaptor is made by Canon, not a 3rd party, and the adaptor allows any and all EF lenses to be mounted on the EOS R body, and when this is done, the EF lens continues to provide 100% functionality, including AF, everything as if the lens was mounted on an EF body.
That's not really the definition of being a native EF mount at all. The native mount is RF, and only RF mount lenses can be attached without adapter.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I see your point, and not to be argumentative, to my mind native means born out of Canon. The adaptor is a Canon created adaptor. The EOS R body accommodates EF lenses without the need for a 3rd party adaptor. These are all native Canon: EOS R body, all EF Bodies, all Canon EF lenses, all RF lenses, all RF adaptors, Canon flashes, and Canon extenders, all native.
Derek Broughton. I have a 5Diii and have been looking at the 5Div for landscape but now with your review on the ESO R I am not sure what to have now ps great review
Glad it was helpful!
great review!
Thanks
Is the camera nice to grip with larger lenses even without the extra battery grip? Or would you say it’s better to have a grip
It's the best of any mirrorless camera I've used. I haven't used the battery grip, so I can't comment on that.
A balanced review, thanks.
Thank you.
I have the 5D3 and love the colors on it better than the 5D4. Should I skip the 5D4 and get the EOS R instead?
The colors on the EOS R are more similar to the 5D4, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
Excellent, serious review.
Hi Dustin, just a thought on the touch bar, younger people that have grown up using a smart phone, and haven't grown up in the photographer world I believe would feel that this feature feels natural to them.
You would think, but frankly it doesn't actually work very well.
Dustin. Fantastic review that to be honest nobody does better. I have to say i am very disappointed with the level of noise when shutter is fired. I was expecting near silent operation. My Old Canon 1Ds ii is far quieter i think and better sounding. But great review show Canon where to improve for the mk ii
I have high hopes for continued improvement in the R series. I'm waiting for round 2 before jumping in myself.
Thanks Dustin for another great review, one of the best in the internet universe. Would you advice updating from the 5dmk3, to use with my own 1.2L lenses , won’t buy the new ones, much too expensives ?
I think you would probably be happy with that upgrade, yes.
Merci Dustin !
Hi Dustin, I’ve listened to your advice, bought one and the first thing i’noticed right away is because there’s is no mirror shake ‘I’m getting a sharper image even at 1.2, didn’t expect that and it’s going to give a new life to old lenses and for this reason it’s already a great buy..thanks again
@@franckcohen That's a definite plus. The shutter definitely introduces less vibration.
Nice review, well-balanced. In my case I will hold off, hoping an improved iteration with better video performance is not too far in the future, even if more expensive. I'm sure Canon felt the urgency to come to market with this camera, but it does not seem to be the groundbreaker we were hoping for.
I think it is the new lenses they needed to get to market with. They are the real story here.
Nice review, doesnt have native but the adapter works great, excellent actually, especially with the polarizer, nd filter coming etc.
Canon’s approach to adapters is very, very clever
Hi Dustin. I’m seriously considering getting the EOS R and had a question for you. Most of my lens are the newer Tamron lens: 35/1.8, 85 1.8, 90 macro and the G2 24-70 and G2 70-200. I haven’t seen must info on how well these lens perform for photography with the EOS R. Do you have I put on that?
I've tested most of those on it and without any issues.
I noticed when I used ef adapted lenses that the camera would quit auto focusing if i stopped using it for even 5 seconds. It did this often and it was really annoying while shooting.
Hmmm, I didn't encounter that with either of the adapters I have on hand.
thanks for a great review. I didn't upgrade to FF from my 70D because of weight and think this is a perfect camera for me. Question: since efs lenses convert to 11 mp, whats the actual resolution like for these lenses; especially since I shoot primarily night sky, urban in low light. thanks in advance
I thought they looked great, actually. You don't have as much image to work with, but what you have is definitely quality.
Do you think my current 3rd party lenses such as Tamron and Samyang with Canon EF mount will continue to work seamlessly with this EOS R?
The ones I tested did.
Awesome video 👌 where can I find that strap ringpin you have on the camera?
It's the Peak Design Slide Light: bhpho.to/2GntF1f
@@DustinAbbottTWI brown leather wrap that's around where you strap on the ring .. ?
I want to upgrade my Canon 5D Mark III and I'm not sure what camera to chose. I'm thinking about the EOS R or the 5D Mark IV, but the 5D Mark IV is getting old. I'm also interested to switch from Canon to the Sony A7R IV. I'd appreciate if you could help me take a decision. What do you recommend?
I would definitely go with either the EOS R or the a7R IV. The RIV is obviously more expensive, and might be overkill in terms of resolution for you. I've enjoyed using both those cameras more than my 5D Mark IV at this point.
Dustin Abbott thank you for your answer!
Great video but I'm wondering if you could bump up the red in your sweater and add more contrast.
Ummm, surely you can appreciate that you're commenting on a video that is over a year old.
@@DustinAbbottTWI OUCH! That hurt! You really got me there, gear boy. Remember now, more red, please. Merry Christmas.
Great Review!~
Thank you
Thx Dustin!
You're welcome.