I’ll ask here since this video gets the most traffic: do you find the foot view useful or just plain stinky? I’ve had it on most of my performance videos because I’m often interested in how other pianists are pedaling, and hoped it would help others thinking the same. Let me know!
Thanks and glad you found that helpful! Hoping it’ll be even more useful in pieces where pedal markings may be up to personal interpretation, and I can convey how it sounds with the way I play it
Honesty and objectively, describing this "etude" as hand-destroying is not fair. What damages the hands is attempting to play it without proper technique. Studying it slowly, with good technique and without focusing on how fast you can play it, yields good results applicable to other pieces of equal or greater difficulty. This study is like a pufferfish; if you're reckless and consume it without preparing it properly, you might get poisoned, but the responsibility lies with the one who eats it, not the fish.
I didn’t mean it literally, I was just being dramatic. These piano studies of course are to improve certain technique and I agree they require practicing it slowly and diligence for adequate progression. I appreciate your comment!
I am in between starting trying to learn this or 'Ocean' etude. They both seem daunting but this waterfall etude is uplifting and stunningly beautiful!
This one is harder. What I did (without knowing) is that I studied the 24th and when I tackled this one I felt more prepared. But they aren't exactly the same
Uplifting is a great description for it. It’s also such a grand statement piece and I love it. I’ve not tried the Ocean etude but Vincent has a good point if that one is easier.
Any repetitive movements could be destructive to the human anatomy. That's why athletes like gymnasts don't have long careers. Piano playing is like gymnastics for the hands. Repeat repeat repeat. Practice. Practice.practice. Id say that Polonaise in A flat is more destructive; my entire upper torso used to hurt when I practiced it.
@@thehiko By the time I found a good piano teacher, I was in junior year of veterinary medicine. I tried and I got to play it in its entirety a few times and then I didn't have anymore time for that. Life got busy and complicated and then I lost the piece. I'm still playing Liebestraume, with my arthritic hands, albeit badly.
@@thehiko My thought is that Polonaise is a man's piece. I have never heard a woman really play it with the fortissimo strength it deserves. The best ones I've heard are, of course, Horowitz and Rubenstein 👌👍, playing in their 80s.
@@cynthiagonzalez658 I’m sorry to hear about your arthritis. It sounds like you’ve been at the piano for a long time and I’m sure your Liebestraume still sounds great!
@@thehiko Thanks. I have to try. It's really horrible. But I play a few Elton John pieces. Never had the discipline to keep practicing the same pieces until I memorize them. So when my eyesight goes, so does the piano playing.
thanks for posting. great job. i'm just getting back into piano at 35 after quitting at 17 after playing for a few years. my last completed pieces were clair de lune and maple leaf rag, and i'm guilty of trying to play these awesome pieces too soon (not at waterfall yet). any advice for pieces leading up to stuff like this? i just learned liszts arrangement of lacrimosa (not too bad) and i'm trying not to bite off more than i can chew (currently halfway through ballade 3, but it's obvious it's kind of above me at the moment in some spots) didn't mean to write a paragraph but it's refreshing to see normal mortals playing these pieces!
Hey there appreciate your comment! I’ll be honest advising a path is not a strong suit of mine. I grew up playing pieces I wanted to play even when I had a piano teacher. Having said that, I would say that at some point I felt proficient enough to tackle and defeat most technical difficulties that came along, using the pieces themselves to improve technique. In reflection I suppose there are a few milestone memories where I felt I moved up a level. They include Mozart sonatas (nos. 16, 8), Beethoven sonatas (nos. 20, 25, 17, 21), easier Chopin etudes (10-3, 10-5, 10-8)…with a few pieces by the likes of Scarlatti, Haydn, and Brahms peppered in between. Ballade no. 3 is a wonderful piece. I’ve not attempted it yet but what difficulties are you facing?
Don’t give up! Speed just takes practice. And explore different hand/finger positions as the slightest changes can lead to big results in terms of ease of playing.
Me encanta tu interpretación de este estudio, pero no estoy de acuerdo con el título😂 De hecho mi mano estaba bastante destrozada y tocando este estudio la siento más fuerte y ágil que nunca. Como el propio Chopin indicó, su intención es mejorar la apertura de la mano. Y con una buena técnica y relajación adecuadas todos los que lo tocamos sabemos que lo que hace es todo menos lesionar. Yo llevo tres meses tocándolo y ni una sola tendinitis ni molestia alguna 😉
¡Gracias por tu amable y reflexivo comentario! Estoy de acuerdo contigo, estos ejercicios nunca deberían destruir tus manos. La única vez que podría causar un problema es si estás exagerando con una mala técnica o si haces lo que hizo Robert Schumann 😬😅
not much longer till concert pianist level.... some bits are great, try to really emphasise the top notes, if you listen to other pianists playing the very top notes they'll be emphasised, I think you're playing the 2nd highest note a bit shorter and quickly going to the highest note if that helps..... goodjob tho
Thank you for your encouraging words and analysis! I’ll be making those adjustments when I post an updated version in the future. Hopefully be able to play note-perfect by then as well. Appreciate you!
Great performance tackling one of Chopin's hardest etudes. May I ask how long you've been playing the piano since you restarted? I'm in a similar boat as yours because I used to play as a kid for 3 years and then quit playing for 18. 1 1/2 years ago I restarted playing and I'm currently learning the same pieces you posted. Debussy Prelude and Chopin Aeolian Harp which are quite doable. I've spent 2 sessions trying to tackle Waterfall etude but my oh my it's devilish so I'll have to leave it for another year and see if I've been progressed enough.
Thanks so much! I restarted about 1 1/2 years ago as well. I remember when I first tried the Waterfall etude, got to reading the first 2 pages, then quit for about 6 months haha. Just keep practicing and you'll get there! Even if you did 1 line a day you'd learn it in way less than a year. I need to take my own advice because I don't tackle pieces in that way lol.
@@thehiko Wow that is insane if you can already play Waterfall after 18 months. Obviously it needs some slight polish here and there but it's already very fluent and at a high level. Your progress on re-learning is jaw dropping. At this rate you'll chew through Chopin pieces easily.
I appreciate that! But I am very bad at sightreading so learning new pieces takes a long time. I've asked myself why I'm even posting videos because they're subpar compared to the perfect YT/concert pianists not to mention it'll be uploaded at a slow pace, but I guess in the end it's kind of record-keeping and a motivator. And if I can entertain and connect with some people, that'd be great.
Appreciate the feedback! I do have a lot of points to work on. Already been 6 months and I haven’t really put much time since. I need to make sure I don’t lose this one.
It’s not hard to learn the notes. It’s hard to play the notes accurately at speed while maintaining the intensity throughout the piece. Have you tried it before?
@@thehiko I haven't, but I've learned a few pieces that are like this and they were relatively easy. I just hear people saying that this one is hard and I guessed there was something special about this one for some reason.
It would all be very nice if all this were true! In reality, the fantastic performance was performed by Grandmaster Maurizio POLLINI for the "Deutsche Grammofone" and does not correspond to the real performance of the person in the video. The original audio has been deceptively replaced with that of the Italian Grand Master! 👎😡
Not sure whether to feel happy or sad from this post…happy to be mentioned in the same sentence as Pollini, sad that the sarcasm indeed means that this is a poor performance 😂
I’ll ask here since this video gets the most traffic: do you find the foot view useful or just plain stinky? I’ve had it on most of my performance videos because I’m often interested in how other pianists are pedaling, and hoped it would help others thinking the same. Let me know!
Useful!!
Helpful.
nice and I really appreciate the pedal cam lol most videos don’t have that
Thanks and glad you found that helpful! Hoping it’ll be even more useful in pieces where pedal markings may be up to personal interpretation, and I can convey how it sounds with the way I play it
that middle part is one of the most beautiful melodies ive ever heard. you played beautifully!
fantastic performance. Nice job man
Much appreciated, thanks for watching!
That is an incredible performance…Cristal clear…😊
Great work. I'm impressed by how economical your hand movement is.
Amazing performance brother! Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much!
Love that middle voice
That's amazing. I hope someday I can play like you!
I appreciate that! Keep practicing and you’ll get there!
Great job!
relatable, update after 10 years lol haha
Such a good performance!
The best performance of this etude imo
You are too kind!
Honesty and objectively, describing this "etude" as hand-destroying is not fair. What damages the hands is attempting to play it without proper technique. Studying it slowly, with good technique and without focusing on how fast you can play it, yields good results applicable to other pieces of equal or greater difficulty. This study is like a pufferfish; if you're reckless and consume it without preparing it properly, you might get poisoned, but the responsibility lies with the one who eats it, not the fish.
I didn’t mean it literally, I was just being dramatic. These piano studies of course are to improve certain technique and I agree they require practicing it slowly and diligence for adequate progression. I appreciate your comment!
yap yap yap
@@owenhochwald506nah he’s right
Good job
I am left handed but after practicing this piece for 1 month im now ambidextrous
lol!
Full combo!
Amazing job
Thank you so much!
I am in between starting trying to learn this or 'Ocean' etude. They both seem daunting but this waterfall etude is uplifting and stunningly beautiful!
This one is harder. What I did (without knowing) is that I studied the 24th and when I tackled this one I felt more prepared. But they aren't exactly the same
Uplifting is a great description for it. It’s also such a grand statement piece and I love it. I’ve not tried the Ocean etude but Vincent has a good point if that one is easier.
Bravo 👏
Any repetitive movements could be destructive to the human anatomy.
That's why athletes like gymnasts don't have long careers.
Piano playing is like gymnastics for the hands.
Repeat repeat repeat.
Practice. Practice.practice.
Id say that Polonaise in A flat is more destructive; my entire upper torso used to hurt when I practiced it.
Yikes that Polonaise is on my to do list for sometime in the future…the octaves might get me bad 😞
@@thehiko
By the time I found a good piano teacher, I was in junior year of veterinary medicine. I tried and I got to play it in its entirety a few times and then I didn't have anymore time for that. Life got busy and complicated and then I lost the piece.
I'm still playing Liebestraume, with my arthritic hands, albeit badly.
@@thehiko
My thought is that Polonaise is a man's piece. I have never heard a woman really play it with the fortissimo strength it deserves.
The best ones I've heard are, of course, Horowitz and Rubenstein 👌👍, playing in their 80s.
@@cynthiagonzalez658 I’m sorry to hear about your arthritis. It sounds like you’ve been at the piano for a long time and I’m sure your Liebestraume still sounds great!
@@thehiko
Thanks. I have to try. It's really horrible. But I play a few Elton John pieces. Never had the discipline to keep practicing the same pieces until I memorize them.
So when my eyesight goes, so does the piano playing.
great job man :)
Thank you!
very nice
Thank you!
got dizzy just watching this
My job is done
Wow....
👍
thanks for posting. great job. i'm just getting back into piano at 35 after quitting at 17 after playing for a few years. my last completed pieces were clair de lune and maple leaf rag, and i'm guilty of trying to play these awesome pieces too soon (not at waterfall yet). any advice for pieces leading up to stuff like this? i just learned liszts arrangement of lacrimosa (not too bad) and i'm trying not to bite off more than i can chew (currently halfway through ballade 3, but it's obvious it's kind of above me at the moment in some spots)
didn't mean to write a paragraph but it's refreshing to see normal mortals playing these pieces!
Hey there appreciate your comment! I’ll be honest advising a path is not a strong suit of mine. I grew up playing pieces I wanted to play even when I had a piano teacher. Having said that, I would say that at some point I felt proficient enough to tackle and defeat most technical difficulties that came along, using the pieces themselves to improve technique.
In reflection I suppose there are a few milestone memories where I felt I moved up a level. They include Mozart sonatas (nos. 16, 8), Beethoven sonatas (nos. 20, 25, 17, 21), easier Chopin etudes (10-3, 10-5, 10-8)…with a few pieces by the likes of Scarlatti, Haydn, and Brahms peppered in between.
Ballade no. 3 is a wonderful piece. I’ve not attempted it yet but what difficulties are you facing?
Im halfway through this piece its been a months 😭😭
Keep at it, it’s so worth it! Of course don’t hurt your hands over it though. Have you read through all the notes? What’s been the biggest challenge?
The iggest challenge is the tempo😂@@thehiko
@@thehikothnks
Don’t give up! Speed just takes practice. And explore different hand/finger positions as the slightest changes can lead to big results in terms of ease of playing.
Hey I have those socks! 😂
lol they haven't let me down!
Me encanta tu interpretación de este estudio, pero no estoy de acuerdo con el título😂 De hecho mi mano estaba bastante destrozada y tocando este estudio la siento más fuerte y ágil que nunca. Como el propio Chopin indicó, su intención es mejorar la apertura de la mano. Y con una buena técnica y relajación adecuadas todos los que lo tocamos sabemos que lo que hace es todo menos lesionar. Yo llevo tres meses tocándolo y ni una sola tendinitis ni molestia alguna 😉
¡Gracias por tu amable y reflexivo comentario! Estoy de acuerdo contigo, estos ejercicios nunca deberían destruir tus manos. La única vez que podría causar un problema es si estás exagerando con una mala técnica o si haces lo que hizo Robert Schumann 😬😅
#puma 😁
Ha!
not much longer till concert pianist level.... some bits are great, try to really emphasise the top notes, if you listen to other pianists playing the very top notes they'll be emphasised, I think you're playing the 2nd highest note a bit shorter and quickly going to the highest note if that helps.....
goodjob tho
Thank you for your encouraging words and analysis! I’ll be making those adjustments when I post an updated version in the future. Hopefully be able to play note-perfect by then as well. Appreciate you!
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I like the feet HAHAHA
Thanks! I’m pretty sure I could have been a foot model. But only when wearing socks.
Awesome ❤. May I know the Kawai model of your piano?
Thanks! It's an AT-22. You got me looking up the serial # and it's from 1995!
Great performance tackling one of Chopin's hardest etudes. May I ask how long you've been playing the piano since you restarted? I'm in a similar boat as yours because I used to play as a kid for 3 years and then quit playing for 18. 1 1/2 years ago I restarted playing and I'm currently learning the same pieces you posted. Debussy Prelude and Chopin Aeolian Harp which are quite doable. I've spent 2 sessions trying to tackle Waterfall etude but my oh my it's devilish so I'll have to leave it for another year and see if I've been progressed enough.
Thanks so much! I restarted about 1 1/2 years ago as well. I remember when I first tried the Waterfall etude, got to reading the first 2 pages, then quit for about 6 months haha. Just keep practicing and you'll get there! Even if you did 1 line a day you'd learn it in way less than a year. I need to take my own advice because I don't tackle pieces in that way lol.
@@thehiko Wow that is insane if you can already play Waterfall after 18 months. Obviously it needs some slight polish here and there but it's already very fluent and at a high level. Your progress on re-learning is jaw dropping. At this rate you'll chew through Chopin pieces easily.
I appreciate that! But I am very bad at sightreading so learning new pieces takes a long time. I've asked myself why I'm even posting videos because they're subpar compared to the perfect YT/concert pianists not to mention it'll be uploaded at a slow pace, but I guess in the end it's kind of record-keeping and a motivator. And if I can entertain and connect with some people, that'd be great.
Well played. Some feedback: You lose a bit of clarity when you come down the keys in the beginning.
Appreciate the feedback! I do have a lot of points to work on. Already been 6 months and I haven’t really put much time since. I need to make sure I don’t lose this one.
Can somone please explain to me how this etude is hard when it is literally just a bunch of repeated arpeggiated patterns?
It’s not hard to learn the notes. It’s hard to play the notes accurately at speed while maintaining the intensity throughout the piece. Have you tried it before?
@@thehiko I haven't, but I've learned a few pieces that are like this and they were relatively easy. I just hear people saying that this one is hard and I guessed there was something special about this one for some reason.
@thecalculatedcreativecoder1428 Best way to find out is to try yourself! Let me know what you think!
It would all be very nice if all this were true! In reality, the fantastic performance was performed by Grandmaster Maurizio POLLINI for the "Deutsche Grammofone" and does not correspond to the real performance of the person in the video. The original audio has been deceptively replaced with that of the Italian Grand Master! 👎😡
Not sure whether to feel happy or sad from this post…happy to be mentioned in the same sentence as Pollini, sad that the sarcasm indeed means that this is a poor performance 😂