Ich spiele die Sachen in verschiedenen rythmen - nix hilft mir schneller zu lernen :-) Edit: lol hab das kommentiert vor dem schauen und freue mich dass es wohl anscheinend auch ein guter Weg ist zu üben 😂😂😂
Playing the same few bars 5000 times without getting it right, slamming the keys, trying it slower, continuing to get it wrong, getting frustrated and stopping practicing that day. Try again the next day and get it right first time
I had stopped practicing piano a few months ago, I was using Synthesia to read the notes, and I even tried using your method of "different rhythms" (which I discovered through your video about memorizing), but it didn't work... Maybe because I didn't understand how it works...
Combining 'playing slowly' and with different rythms has also been one of my practice tools. I'm sharing you also another one that has been particularly useful for me : Take a metronome, and start half the speed. Work the part you have difficulties with, until you make it work. Then go for a +2 on metronome. Same work. Then -1, same work. Alternating between +2/-1 helped me a lot on technical parts to make it through the final tempo. It's not that long and definitely worth it : +2 makes you have less work to do between each step since the change is not that great, -1 helps you relax your fingers and stabilizing your play.
I play this piece 'double' so each quarter twice. I do this whenever I have stamina pieces like the Erlkonig from Schubert etc. After two weeks of double length the normal piece seems rather easy. I should mention that I have been playing piano for 65 years (45 professionally) and have never suffered any physical problems and I have a super light touch, so not so much into the keys, more across the top of the keys. By the way 176 is nonsense if you want to hear the music that lies within this wonderful piece, it should never be mechanical..
I have no idea what you are trying to say, you should have been clear with your choice of words. playing 'double' means nothing it can mean a dozen of things, 'each quarter twice' are you repeating each quarter notes ? You comment is unintelligible.
For those studying any of the other etudes, Op 10 No 2 and Op 25 no 12 lend themselves particularly well to these rhythm exercises. I saw loads of improvement pretty quickly after applying the principles from this video to Op 10 no 2, it really helps to make the technique become comfortable without loads of strain.
I guess most people approach a new piece like this pianist does in the 1-minute-10-minutes-1-hour challenge and so do I: running forward in a complex thoughtless cooperation of notes and fingers… but now I see how a professional pianist fills hours and hours of a day… on a sidenote, if one can play rhythm no. 8 one probably can play the whole piece perfectly, or as perfectly as an amateur can only dream to be able to play! Enjoyed this video as always…
Thank you very much for sharing your method, I was practicing this etude Sunday when have received the fateful phone call from my family announcing that my little sister passed away. Now I'm determined to go all the way through and finish the study of this piece, with forever will be associated with our grief but also lots of happy memories when shared. Best regards, Pierre-Louis from Loire Valley, France
I enjoy all these videos. I always look forward to the next. Now this little tune is running in my head and I can't get it out. Love how beautifully you perform on the piano.
100% agreed, also how high is the palm of your hand relative to the keyboard. If you are too low you risk injury more. I wish she showed two camera views, one from above.
very cool! I love getting a deep look into your process. You build a solid foundation first then add all the finer details on top of that foundation. It makes perfect sense!
I've been practicing the Etude Op. 25 no. 9 (mostly known as "Butterfly Etude") and im not able to improve from the first 3 systems, but i think thu applying this techniques i could doit better now :)
Hi Annique, I love all your videos and what a perfect timing, I am practicing this etude along with op.10 no.8 right now and I am also working on learning all 24 etudes. But I just want to let you know that Skillshare has some of the worst music courses with the most unqualified "teachers" you can ever find (with a very few exceptions). I guess anyone can teach there? I hope you can take a look and discuss it with them and encourage them to hire more professional musicians. I think this is especially dangerous for the beginner students who can't figure it out by themselves...
I’m so happyy that you make a new video! I love your channel so much 🍂🤎 (sorry for my bad English, I’m french and I try to don’t use Google Translator!)
Yeah I'm working on my sightreading, follow the basic rules, don't look at ur hand, work with music sheet that is much easier than the pieces that you play, don't stop playing cause u made a mistake, u r not working on the piece, u r working on your reading, if u find trouble finding out the tempo of notes, u should work on it separately, same as if u find hard to find notes on the piano without looking at the keys, there's actually hundreds tips to sightreading
do chord based stuff first so you learn how to read musical “words” instead of note “letters”…. Do something slower, and not so hard… and the rest is just practice chromatic sightreading is literally the worst
Dzień dobry 😁 I have just started learning piano as 40yo. Having hard times but I love it. I hope I will manage to play Chopin at some point... maybe in few years 🤣
Can you hear every single note in your head while playing? Can you hear every single note before playing? Do you ever do silent practice with just running sound thru your mind?
Trying to learn this by myself (as a full self-taught). I realize that is far beyond my current level, but i don't give up and try to apply Cortot's method: decompilation of passage on 1-2 note😂 (playing only 1 and 5 fingers or 1+5), then playing as a chords (3+1, 2+2, 1+3), playing as broken arpegio or as a broken arpegios+chord (1 note + 2 +1, usind 2 and 3(4) fingers as a pivot point), and of course playing in different rhythms. And after all it sounds like a shit, but it's a great pleasure to learn piano.)
What is it about the rhythm exercises, do you think, that can help get the speed up? I'm thinking that it can help in not overwhelming you because you can get the speed up to target speed for anywhere from 2 notes on up, bit by bit, until they're all fast. At that speed it's hard to know what a 16th note at 176 sounds like. Is that how this works? I think a lot of what's hard about piano at any level is a sense of overwhelm with your brain screaming, "NO!" when it encounters something for the first time.
Very interesting approach, these rhythm exercises. So, how do you move on to proper "time" from there? And, how do you prepare to figure out the "music" in the notes on paper? I've heard a very good classical player try to play some jazz sheet music and he had not figured out the syncopation - this could happen with Chopin's Mazurka pieces too. Or, Chopin has a couple of "fugue" bars in one of his piano solo pieces. How do you uncover these? Serendipity from rhythm variations? Hearsay? Just reading the sheet music?
Annique you are so cute telling us your metros to study... I really enjoy and help me to study myself with the Oboe.... thanks a lot..I wish you the best for you... 😃😃😃
Question arises: since your playing of these different practice strategies WITH pedal of greater value than practicing this work WITHOUT pedal and was this something you did a/o recommend? Thanks youre a fine young artist.
I am on the same boat. I am sure that is the not our limit, but Chopin's era pianos had lighter action making this study easier on finger muscles. I don't know yet why i am struggling to get consistently above 2/3 of tempo sometimes i can reach 80% ( 4/5) of final tempo but only after 1 hour of practicing then days later i cannot even do 1/5 until after least 30 min of practice. I guess my hand, wrist, fingers, arm, shoulder have not yet locked to the optimal possible positions / angles for this study. I always look at anatomy when i see someone playing it in a video.
hahaha good comment. Pracitcing this etude myself i often wonder which is the critical finger to get this etude to work and actually it's the index finger (in the difficult bars of this etude which she did not show) not sure why.
Hi Annique ,could you make a 1 minute 10 minutes and 1 hour challenge video (when you have time) with Mozart - Piano Sonata No.16 in C Major, K.545 (1st Mvt)...it is very beautiful that song and you will play it beautifully.I am learning it and I want to see how a professional pianist learns it. It would help to motivate me a lot.😊😊I know it's too much for you, but I would love to do it😁
Aha, jetzt habe ich begriffen, dass ich bei dieser Technik nicht Akorden speilen soll, sondern muss ich die zwei nebeneinander liegende Tonen wie Arpegios spielnen . Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video. ☺
I'm learning this Etude and Op 25 No 12. And then I'll do Op 25 No 11 and Op 25 No 5. This first one I'm just playing continuously at 45-60BPM for about an hour per day. I'm playing without pedal and not lifting the hand at all whilst ascending, so thumb presses down as the little finger is lifted. Is this wrong?
What are your favorite practicing methods? Share it in the comments!😊
hi
I practice this by lying my head down on the keys and waking up 8 hours later. It’s not working but I feel good.
Ich spiele die Sachen in verschiedenen rythmen - nix hilft mir schneller zu lernen :-)
Edit: lol hab das kommentiert vor dem schauen und freue mich dass es wohl anscheinend auch ein guter Weg ist zu üben 😂😂😂
Playing the same few bars 5000 times without getting it right, slamming the keys, trying it slower, continuing to get it wrong, getting frustrated and stopping practicing that day. Try again the next day and get it right first time
I had stopped practicing piano a few months ago, I was using Synthesia to read the notes, and I even tried using your method of "different rhythms" (which I discovered through your video about memorizing), but it didn't work...
Maybe because I didn't understand how it works...
it was so satisfying watching you play all those different rhythms
7:55 ❤❤❤wow
I finished learning this piece after getting inspired by watching the Chopin International Competition.
Me too!!
So did I 😁
Im doing that rn😃😃😃
+1 here 🙌
How long did it take, is it Reallohn Hard or possibile?
Rhythm 1: 5:39
Rhythm 2: 6:00
Rhythm 3: 6:24
Rhythm 4: 6:43
Rhythm 5: 7:00
Rhythm 6: 7:18
Rhythm 7: 7:37
Rhythm 8: 7:54
Rhythm 9: 8:13
Rhythm 10: 8:33
Rhythm 11: 8:51
ty my friend
Combining 'playing slowly' and with different rythms has also been one of my practice tools.
I'm sharing you also another one that has been particularly useful for me : Take a metronome, and start half the speed. Work the part you have difficulties with, until you make it work. Then go for a +2 on metronome. Same work. Then -1, same work.
Alternating between +2/-1 helped me a lot on technical parts to make it through the final tempo. It's not that long and definitely worth it : +2 makes you have less work to do between each step since the change is not that great, -1 helps you relax your fingers and stabilizing your play.
I play this piece 'double' so each quarter twice. I do this whenever I have stamina pieces like the Erlkonig from Schubert etc. After two weeks of double length the normal piece seems rather easy. I should mention that I have been playing piano for 65 years (45 professionally) and have never suffered any physical problems and I have a super light touch, so not so much into the keys, more across the top of the keys. By the way 176 is nonsense if you want to hear the music that lies within this wonderful piece, it should never be mechanical..
Do you think 160 is good?
I think he meant "play it with your heart" so whatever you feel is the best, is actually the best
I have no idea what you are trying to say, you should have been clear with your choice of words. playing 'double' means nothing it can mean a dozen of things, 'each quarter twice' are you repeating each quarter notes ? You comment is unintelligible.
@@ericastier1646 and the tone of your comment, means it is not worthy of a reply, I hope that was clear for you..
Different rhythms! I actually applied your tips on this before and it works. I can easily memorize the piece. Thanks Annique!! 😍☺️
I find watching your finger movements mesmerizing Annique. It truely is a thing of beauty.
For those studying any of the other etudes, Op 10 No 2 and Op 25 no 12 lend themselves particularly well to these rhythm exercises. I saw loads of improvement pretty quickly after applying the principles from this video to Op 10 no 2, it really helps to make the technique become comfortable without loads of strain.
Please do more videos like this, that focus on how to practice! 😍 They are great and super useful!
Definitely need to continue this series! It is so helpful. You should do all of the etudesssss because yesss
Just bought my first musical keyboard and I plan to start learning this week. Thanks for the videos and the inspiration!!
if you're just starting piano this might not be the best piece to start with xd
@@aligonzalez4862 oh no, not this piece. Piano in general XD
I started piano like a month ago and this is one of the first pieces I saw. Did not know it was going to be so difficult.
I guess most people approach a new piece like this pianist does in the 1-minute-10-minutes-1-hour challenge and so do I: running forward in a complex thoughtless cooperation of notes and fingers… but now I see how a professional pianist fills hours and hours of a day… on a sidenote, if one can play rhythm no. 8 one probably can play the whole piece perfectly, or as perfectly as an amateur can only dream to be able to play! Enjoyed this video as always…
This kind of videos are extremely useful, I'm so glad that i have found your channel on youtube randomly
Bravo. It is a real pleasure to listen to her. Lots of good ideas.
Thank you very much for sharing your method, I was practicing this etude Sunday when have received the fateful phone call from my family announcing that my little sister passed away.
Now I'm determined to go all the way through and finish the study of this piece, with forever will be associated with our grief but also lots of happy memories when shared.
Best regards,
Pierre-Louis from Loire Valley, France
My teacher used lots of rhythm practice methods - they work wonders!
Great video.
Kisses and hugs from Poland! Respect for greetings at the beginning :-) polish is difficult as much as this etude
I enjoy all these videos. I always look forward to the next. Now this little tune is running in my head and I can't get it out. Love how beautifully you perform on the piano.
I'm applying this exercises and I'm already seeing some progress!!! I would love a similar video on the op. 25 n 9. Thank you!
You make it look so smooth and effortless
8:51 ❤❤❤I love it! Amazing. I definitely enjoyed that.🎉🎉🎉😊
Yooooo She's got into the big boys with skill share sponsor
The only thing I need to point out it's the disconnected hand from forearm. (Swinging up and down) to avoid injury you must watch that aspect.
100% agreed, also how high is the palm of your hand relative to the keyboard. If you are too low you risk injury more. I wish she showed two camera views, one from above.
In my dreams!😭 I love this series. I enjoy your humor! 😎😎😎
very cool! I love getting a deep look into your process. You build a solid foundation first then add all the finer details on top of that foundation. It makes perfect sense!
I love your videos! I'm currently 3/4 way through practicing op25 no11. Could you perhaps do a practice video on that etude please? Thank you!!
Thank You "Heart of the Keys" for the slow practice ideas. It should really help me. Best Regards.
I practice by getting my right hand to be as dextrous as my dominant left-hand. Arpeggios along a scale, as I alternate bass tetrads
Practicing slowly...needed to hear that
I've been practicing the Etude Op. 25 no. 9 (mostly known as "Butterfly Etude") and im not able to improve from the first 3 systems, but i think thu applying this techniques i could doit better now :)
Hi Annique, I love all your videos and what a perfect timing, I am practicing this etude along with op.10 no.8 right now and I am also working on learning all 24 etudes.
But I just want to let you know that Skillshare has some of the worst music courses with the most unqualified "teachers" you can ever find (with a very few exceptions). I guess anyone can teach there?
I hope you can take a look and discuss it with them and encourage them to hire more professional musicians. I think this is especially dangerous for the beginner students who can't figure it out by themselves...
I’m so happyy that you make a new video! I love your channel so much 🍂🤎 (sorry for my bad English, I’m french and I try to don’t use Google Translator!)
your english is fine, it's possible to understand it properly - despite being translated by google translator
I am very happy to watch all your videos!!
Do you have any tips for sight reading and btw I love your videos
Sight read every day and not so hard stuff
Yeah I'm working on my sightreading, follow the basic rules, don't look at ur hand, work with music sheet that is much easier than the pieces that you play, don't stop playing cause u made a mistake, u r not working on the piece, u r working on your reading, if u find trouble finding out the tempo of notes, u should work on it separately, same as if u find hard to find notes on the piano without looking at the keys, there's actually hundreds tips to sightreading
@@habbometin2csocapb thanks for your advice
do chord based stuff first so you learn how to read musical “words” instead of note “letters”…. Do something slower, and not so hard… and the rest is just practice
chromatic sightreading is literally the worst
@@Isa-tn7ex What it means?
Read characters like Etude No.11 in Eb major?
Chords in score? Like Rachmaninoff Prelude in C-sharp minor?
I dream of playing this piece one day. Not today. But maybe some day:)
Stop dreaming,
Go practice!
Dzień dobry 😁 I have just started learning piano as 40yo. Having hard times but I love it. I hope I will manage to play Chopin at some point... maybe in few years 🤣
the hand and fingers position at frame @3:04 is the key to this etude.
Nice method ! You can also try by playing everything staccato . You then get a great grip on the piano
Please do a review of the Chopin Competition.
excellent video !!! thanks so much Annique !!!!
Nice tips, Annique. Thx!
Can you hear every single note in your head while playing? Can you hear every single note before playing? Do you ever do silent practice with just running sound thru your mind?
Trying to learn this by myself (as a full self-taught). I realize that is far beyond my current level, but i don't give up and try to apply Cortot's method: decompilation of passage on 1-2 note😂 (playing only 1 and 5 fingers or 1+5), then playing as a chords (3+1, 2+2, 1+3), playing as broken arpegio or as a broken arpegios+chord (1 note + 2 +1, usind 2 and 3(4) fingers as a pivot point), and of course playing in different rhythms. And after all it sounds like a shit, but it's a great pleasure to learn piano.)
Meu sonho é saber tocar esse estudo.
Começando a tocar piano hoje, em quanto tempo será que sairia…
Parabéns pelo canal!
It depends on how much effort you out on learning and improving, I think you'll be able to do it in a couple years
What is it about the rhythm exercises, do you think, that can help get the speed up? I'm thinking that it can help in not overwhelming you because you can get the speed up to target speed for anywhere from 2 notes on up, bit by bit, until they're all fast. At that speed it's hard to know what a 16th note at 176 sounds like. Is that how this works? I think a lot of what's hard about piano at any level is a sense of overwhelm with your brain screaming, "NO!" when it encounters something for the first time.
Rhythm variation, great~~~!
👽💚 Alien says: *Excellent video* Chopin music teleports me out of this world 👽👍+1👈🚀🚀🚀🚀 *stay in touch*
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Very interesting approach, these rhythm exercises. So, how do you move on to proper "time" from there? And, how do you prepare to figure out the "music" in the notes on paper? I've heard a very good classical player try to play some jazz sheet music and he had not figured out the syncopation - this could happen with Chopin's Mazurka pieces too. Or, Chopin has a couple of "fugue" bars in one of his piano solo pieces. How do you uncover these? Serendipity from rhythm variations? Hearsay? Just reading the sheet music?
5:40 at this point I would say to my students: hand up! 😂 But great video, I started playing that etude once and never really knew how to approach it
And a happy Polish dzień dobry to you, too. 😎
Annique you are so cute telling us your metros to study... I really enjoy and help me to study myself with the Oboe.... thanks a lot..I wish you the best for you... 😃😃😃
do chopin etude op 10 no 4, or etude op 25 no 11
Could you do the 1 min, 10 min, 1 hour challenge with Love's sorrow from Kreisler?
Rachmaninoff's arrangement?
@@gorilla_highlights2055 yes
@@pokollo7376 might be a good idea
@@gorilla_highlights2055 yeees !🤩🤩🤩
Dzień dobry! Jesteś fantastyczna. Miłego dnia. (you are fantastic, have a nice day) :D
Hey! Annique
I would practice it at this exact moment but i'm not home. Sad
Can you do a video on op 10 no 4 soon please?
Can you do Chopin's Nocturne number 20 in c sharp minor?
thank you 👍
It's good to practice at different tempi.
Thanks, much apricated. Dan US
Annique: _"Gotta come up with more rythms so I can get to 10 minutes c:
Wish I can be as good as youuu. You are so great!
When she started playing... Omg....
Could you pls do a video on op 25 no 12 pls?
Very useful video 🙂👍🎹🎵🇬🇷
OHHH YAY!!!!
I need tips on this piece. I can’t get it up to speed. Any pointers?
Why the dynamics are so complex? Kkk Chopin is always amazing...
'dzień dobry' you're 100% Polish now
Dzień dobry Annique :)
Question arises: since your playing of these different practice strategies WITH pedal of greater value than practicing this work WITHOUT pedal and was this something you did a/o recommend? Thanks youre a fine young artist.
Der Schluss! 😄
Don’t bounce the wrists like that at 4:50
Hi!
I wanna see you do the op10 no4 from chopin
„Dzień dobry”!
Great!!!
Tempo exercises look useful but how many bars would you recommend practicing at a time using that method?
What if in 2/3 of the tempo you start messing up? Any recommendations to improve tempo? Does it mean that is my limit?
I am on the same boat. I am sure that is the not our limit, but Chopin's era pianos had lighter action making this study easier on finger muscles. I don't know yet why i am struggling to get consistently above 2/3 of tempo sometimes i can reach 80% ( 4/5) of final tempo but only after 1 hour of practicing then days later i cannot even do 1/5 until after least 30 min of practice. I guess my hand, wrist, fingers, arm, shoulder have not yet locked to the optimal possible positions / angles for this study. I always look at anatomy when i see someone playing it in a video.
@@ericastier1646 Interesting, same here!
i was anxious the whole time that your pinky would fall off the keys xD
hahaha good comment. Pracitcing this etude myself i often wonder which is the critical finger to get this etude to work and actually it's the index finger (in the difficult bars of this etude which she did not show) not sure why.
Does the glossy shine of the Piano help place your fingers better than a keyboard like a Krug or a Roland?
Hello Annique, big fan of yours , how would you express this song and also keep in tempo as I can’t seem to keep it at a steady tempo
Great
this is a difficult piece for me. looking at the key changes, c major, a minor, d etc
Hi Annique ,could you make a 1 minute 10 minutes and 1 hour challenge video (when you have time) with Mozart - Piano Sonata No.16 in C Major, K.545 (1st Mvt)...it is very beautiful that song and you will play it beautifully.I am learning it and I want to see how a professional pianist learns it. It would help to motivate me a lot.😊😊I know it's too much for you, but I would love to do it😁
piece
Me too i love this piece
Dzień dobry ;)
Hey Anique
Can you do it with Op10 No.4
What are the names of all the rhythm's ??
Aha, jetzt habe ich begriffen, dass ich bei dieser Technik nicht Akorden speilen soll, sondern muss ich die zwei nebeneinander liegende Tonen wie Arpegios spielnen . Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video. ☺
Dzien dobry
can i use these techniques on chopin waltzes too? what about scott choplin ragtimes?
Добрый день =)
I'm learning this Etude and Op 25 No 12. And then I'll do Op 25 No 11 and Op 25 No 5.
This first one I'm just playing continuously at 45-60BPM for about an hour per day. I'm playing without pedal and not lifting the hand at all whilst ascending, so thumb presses down as the little finger is lifted. Is this wrong?
When you go up with metronome use the pedal or only at the end at final tempo ?
Hi
Which is your favorite étude ?🧐😆
Canyo do a tutorial of studio op10 n12
Can't even do half the tempo correctly for now 😭