How Gamera Beat Godzilla At His Own Game
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In the beginning Gamera was always looked down as the cheaper Godzilla knock-off, but that all changed when the Heisei Gamera Trilogy was released in the last half of the 90s. In this video we take a look back at what makes this trilogy so good compared to what Godzilla was doing at the same time, and how, for a while, Gamera was the King of the Monsters.
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I still like the Heisi Godzilla films more. But the Gamera movies are pretty good too.
If Toho and Hensi were to do a Godzilla vs Gamera movie the fan base would go completely nuts over it.
That was originally going to happen in 2002 but toho denied it
A lot of people want Legendary to work out a licensing agreement with Daiei to make him part of the Monsterverse. If that were to happen we might finally see the war a lot of people have been waiting for.
@@Sargebri America isn't ready for gamera yet Japanese monster pop culture is ridiculously underrated in America because Americans pay attention to nothing but stuff related to Disney and superheroes 95% of the time. Americans would most likely see gamera as a godzilla rip off
@@Kaiju-bm4ts Because it (mostly) is
@@Testimony_Of_JTF and at the same time gamera took inspiration from godzilla
Godzilla vs Gamera the Ultimate legendary Fight in monsterverse
Heisei kaiju movies were peak
The last scene when he roars in the middle of the burning city never fail to send chill down my spine.
Same.
Batman and Gamera went from 60's camp to a more dark/sober tone
Voivoda Dracula that's what the 2014 Gojí film teaser(2013) looked like... smh teasers look better than the actual flim cuz ppl complain on being too dark...
The dark i was refering to is not literal darkness, it's about taking the subject in a serious way on-film, not making it extra camp and not surrounding the action in shadows and extra wangst
Tbf Batman was quite dark in his beginnings for the time when he was being published, then he got campy, then darker than ever. Your point in general still stands tho.
Godzilla also went from '60s camp to being darker & more sober. All of these properties started off to differing degrees of sober mindsets, though. It's fun how things take big changes, readjust, & do it again.
That’s right
I've missed your videos! Glad to see you back!
I've watched your channel since December 2017
You like Tokusatsu movies?! Cool.. I tend to always have this feeling that all you watch is Jurassic Park.
Klayton Fioriti love watching your videos since 2017
Perhaps my favorite moment of the trilogy comes in the second film when you’re with the people at the restaurant and on the street going about their business and out of nowhere Gamera and another monster are suddenly knocking down buildings around them. I think that’s the first time I saw collateral damage portrayed like that. Even though Gamera is the hero, he’s still a danger to bystanders...
LOL, check out the damage done by Gamera simply landing. Looked like a street in New York during the Independence Day attack on the Empire State Building.
The reason is that while Godzilla was still popular, they recycled a lot of other popular Monsters after Biollante flopped hard (with the exception of Battra). It wasn't until the Series was nearing its end that they came up with something somewhat 'original' (SpaceGodzilla) and something a bit more original (Destoroyah).
Gamera instead did the opposite; it reused an old Showa monster (Gyaos), then they went more original with Legion and Iris, while the Gyaos only returned very briefly in the third film.
I personally wish for Gamera to have Kaiju allies of his own (yes that includes giant robots) for future films.
Daimajin would make an amazing ally.
@@Electro21964 isn't Daimajin too brutal for being an ally?
Planned plot for vs Galasharp revealed that the two baby Galasharps can be potential allies of Gamera.
I love to see Whale God, Yonggary, Imoogi, and more, to be Gamera's allies..
@@voivodadracula1936 Daimajin was an anti-hero in his debut film, but he eventually became more of a protector by the third film
Personally if I were to create an ally - or just two new characters in general - for Gamera, I'd probably look to the Four Auspicious Beasts (the four mythological creatures that represent the four cardinal directions in much of East Asian culture) for inspiration since the Heisei Gamera trilogy does reference them in Gamera 3: Revenge of Iris. In the film Gamera is compared to and is also believed to have been the inspiration for the Black Tortoise of the North (Genbu), and some fans speculate that this means that Gyaos and Iris may have been the inspiration for the Vermilion Bird of the South (Suzaku).
As there are no other Gamera characters which at least resemble the Azure Dragon of the East (Sieryu) and the White Tiger of the West (Byakko), I would mostly consider creating two new Gamera kaiju with influences taken from the two aformentioned mythological beasts with one or possibly both becoming an ally to Gamera.
Then again, this is how I'd approach the concept of making new monsters and potential allies in the Gamera universe. Feel free to share your thoughts on this idea.
When asked about the ending to Revenge of Iris Shusuke Kaneko said that Gamera does win against all of those Gyaos but only if the audience believes in Gamera. The reason why the Gamera trilogy has that spiritual bend to it is because Shusuke noticed that modern youth where increasingly disenfranchised and didn't have any spirituality or beliefs. So he wanted to give them something to believe in even if it's a fictional flying fire breathing turtle.
Also Shusuke Kaneko said that turtles don't exist in the world of Gamera which is just weird.
Yeah, I heard about that too. I used to watch these movies all the time when I was younger. I still do every once in a while, but after learning that turtles don't exist in that universe, I can't watch these movies without that thought dangling in the back of my mind. I still enjoy the Heisei trilogy and I hope they do something with Gamera soon.
@@Slick-yj6mj the worst part is they fucked it up anyway. You can see a glass turtle on someone's desk in Iris.
@@OsirisLord Unless turtles are some sort of cryptid or myth, maybe?
@@OsirisLord Or maybe companies took advantage of Gamera's fights against Gyaos and Legion that they made merchandise off of him
The kid in the first movie has a pet turtle...
1:20 wait a minute. Is Gamera fighting and Imperial Star Destroyer?
Yes lol.
AND lots of stock footage from all of the previous Gamera adventures. Super Monster Gamera is the Godzilla's Revenge of the series. LOL
No, but yes.
@@TheVaultMaster Super Monster is much worse than All Monsters Attack (Godzilla's Revenge) though, at least in my opinion.
I actually really like All Monsters Attack, Yes there's stock footage but it's stock footage from 2 of my favourite Godzilla movies (Son of Godzilla and Ebirah Horror of the Deep) plus it's got Minilla who is my favourite Kaiju... Even If I don't like his appearance or the fact that he talks in All Monsters Attack, that's excused though because it's meant to be in Ichiro's dream, plus when he grows big he doesn't speak anymore which I like.
I like Gabbara, he's ugly and stupid but I like him :) and the whole fight with him is entertaining to me.
And I like Ichiro himself, he's kinda cute and I kind of enjoy the Home Alone type thing they've got going with him and the robbers.
Plus I enjoy the soundtrack, it's silly and over the top, childlike.. But i like it.
So yeah... I like All Monsters Attack (Godzilla's Revenge) as for Super Monster though I've only seen it once, All I remember is nothing new and all stock footage and then a human story that really is the lamest thing I've ever seen in a Tokusatsu film... And believe me. Mm I have a very high tolerance for stupid over the top Tokusatsu films.. The Showa Godzilla, Showa Gamera, Showa Ultraman etc etc films are my favourite films of those franchises, my favourite Godzilla films are Son of Godzilla and Ebirah Horror of the Deep right after the original Gojira... But even so.. Super Monster isn't just cheesy and fun.. It's painful and lame..
@@cookiesontoast9981 was just doing a quick comparison. No need to defend All Monsters Attack - never met a Godzilla movie I didn't like. 😁
The Kaneko Gamera Trilogy comprises 3 of the FINEST giant monster movies ever made, and even to this day, they remain mostly unsurpassed.
BioGoji 1989 I agree to this. I love Godzilla however the 90’s Gamera Trilogy beats the entire Heisei Godzilla movies.
@@TheOmyllBernard idk about ALL of them, maybe mechagodzilla 2, but definitely not vs destroyah
@@sonicicecream8159 vs destroyah was good but gamera know how to get on point shots and entertaining fights Or consistency in attacks. while heisei godzilla films, like said in this video mostly beam spam throughout the battles and there are some times were destoroyahs minions looked way to green screened. Not to mention some monsters looked like they were stuck in loops.
You know what this trilogy reminds me of? The Planet of the Apes trilogy from 2010.
I mean think about it: reboot of a franchise that had degenrated into a laughing stock, no one thought it would do well, let alone be good. Then, it IS good, surprisingly so, gets better with the second film, and then the third is even better, to the point of being called not just the one of the years best films, but "what blockbusters should strive to be."
The main difference being I want more Gamera, but Apes is fine where it is (so please leave it alone, Disney).
Disney has stated already that they are continuing the Apes movies, even though The 3rd film left on an ending for the franchise, there's still so much lore they could do. There's like 6 or 7 ape films from back in the 60s and 70s.
@@Assassin199410 I know, I'm just worried they'll screw it up somehow. Because maybe it's me, but aside from Marvel... A lot of their movies just feel bland to me. Like the kind you see, enjoy, and then never watch again. And I feel like Planet of the Apes Trilogy was really special so to follow it up with that would be disappointing.
@@FlyingFocs I'm sure it will be fine.
@@Assassin199410 if they get the same people involved, Matt Reeves, Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver, sure.
@@FlyingFocs Well, considering that the first movie was directed by someone else and it was great, new directors can take on the Ape films.
The 2015 short film had me so amped for a new Gamera movie. The effects and the way it was shot were fantastic. I still go back and watch it again from time to time because it's so well done. I'm still hoping they do a full length movie in this fashion.
And even when Toho got a hold of the Gamera trilogy team to tackle Godzilla, they still shackled them to studio demands and limited their creative freedom.
Yep. GMK, while an improvement over Toho's efforts of the time, was a huge step back for Kaneko.
toho just doesn't seem to understand that them not giving creators complete creative control is whats keeping godzilla from doing anything interesting
@WaddleSenpai But then Toho was back into shackling their directors/writers again which resulted in the abysmal Godzilla anime trilogy.
@@androyus The anime trilogy was super experimental. What really weighed it down was how it was super stubborn in getting on with what it wanted to say.
@@androyus I would say it was 50/50 Toho/The director. Cause that guy really had almost pulled a Rian Johnson on the Godzilla series. That Trilogy had a similar path to DisneyWars, in that it started out interestingly enough, but went right off the rails.
I was watching your review of Godzilla 1984. And a certain line caught my attention.
"...type of Godzilla movie made once every generation, reflecting the anxieties and hopes of the time period in which it was made."
So it got me thinking: what if you made a video that centered on this line of thought and compared three Godzilla movie? Godzilla 1954, The Return of Godzilla (1984), and Shin Godzilla (2016). Three generations of Godzilla. That would be neat.
And now we have Godzilla Minus One to add to this list!
Gamera seriously is a cool monster, and while I still love Godzilla more, I don't hate Gamera. I'd actually love to see a Gamera vs Godzilla.
Edit: I know about the Death Battle video lol
They would have to make some pretty serious changes to one of the monsters to pull this off. Death Battle simulated this fight based on the current media of both monsters and basically Godzilla is just way too big for Gamera to beat.
@@kylealabs came here to say this! But you beat me to it. Lol
@@kylealabs If they can supercharge kong to the size he was in that leak with a sick ass beard to fight godzilla, they can do the same to gamera.
@@kylealabs eh depends on which Godzilla they use. Earth godzilla from the netflix series would sneeze and kill gamera lol. But early 90s or early 2000s godzilla would be a decent matchup
I would like to see the two get in a scuffle early on in a movie, but unite together to battle a even greater monster, this would be the best avenue of approach
Toho and Daiei may never be able to cross over in Japan, but you know, there's no reason they COULDN'T actually introduce a new version of Gamera to the Legendary Monsterverse. Can you imagine the reaction when someone sends out a distress call at the end of Gozilla vs Kong: "SOS giant turtle has appeared"?
This review was really neat,
Gamera just can't be beat,
Let's all go watch GAM-E-RAAAA!
Shell! Teeth! Eyes! Flames!
Claws! Breath! Scales! FUN!
I loved the heisei Godzilla series. It's best entries blew me away. And Showa era Gamera is, at best, a guilty pleasure, ideally watched less than sober. But the heisei Gamera trilogy are easily some of, if not THE, best the kaiju genre has to offer. Godzilla will always be the king, but Gamera certainly looked like a contender back in the 90s. Something no other monster has done before or since. As another commenter said, it doesn't make one less of a Goji-fan by acknowledging this.
Gamera the Brave was a lot of fun too, but is a different beast altogether (literally).
The opening for Gamera the Brave gave me chills. It played so well as an indirect conclusion to G3. And the rest of the film seemed to combine the best elements of the trilogy with a bit of the early family friendly works of Spielberg, which works surprisingly well.
I like to think of gamera as a knight while godzilla is the king make sense?
@@haramberoth117 He's the Jack. Like in a deck of cards.
@@alexyoutubechannel8175 no one claimed it was. Only that it did what the heisei films couldn't.
@@alexyoutubechannel8175 In a sense I agree with you. But Goji 1954 isn't exactly representative of the genre it inspired. It's a far more serious movie. Knowing what Godzilla represents, I found the scenes of human suffering difficult to watch in parts. So while Goji 1954 is deeper and more meaningful, I didn't enjoy it as much as the Gamera Trilogy, which is just pure entertainment. Truthfully I would probably still say Godzilla 1954 is the better movie from a cinema buffs perspective, and should be required viewing alongside classics like Citizen Kane and Seven Samurai.
"This character was once a laughingstock to anyone under the age of 10"
Ah, so thats why I keep getting bullied by those 9 year olds...
*Don't take this too seriously, its a joke*
No
I would bring Gamera back by starting with a Prequel that shows how Gamera came to be. In the next movie I would make a sequel to his last movie made and bring him into the future with the same dark agressive stance like the short teaser that was made no one did anything with. Gamera is marketable but needs a genius that is also a fan.
Be careful what you wish for. Gamera the Brave is what we got instead of following up on the swarm of Gyaos at the end of Revenge of Iris. If anything it set the franchise back a couple steps. Props to the designers of Zedus, though. That character was rendered very well.
I want Gamera to be in today’s monsterverse. So he and the big G can go toe to toe on the big screen, instead of just deathbattle
I swear to god, I really would want both of them to take on Destroyah in the big screen cuz that’s my ultimate dream ever since I was a kid
The trilogy is pretty good. Fine addition to the genre for sure. Still no matter its success it's still getting compared to Godzilla even if it's meant to be positive. Every single time. So no matter what Gamera simply can't escape Godzilla's shadow even at its best. Some things just won't change.
Though to be fair, the 1954 Godzilla movie had more or less popularized kaiju films
Well I'd put quite a few Godzilla movies above 90s Gamera. Even more if I include movies that I simply enjoy more. The problem is whether someone hates Heisei or not or just want people to be aware of the trilogy it's always compared to Godzilla. Cultural dominance of Godzilla is immesurable, Gamera can't escape it even at his best. Doesn't help that Heisei Godzilla is good so whatever gap in quality may be there it may not affect those who simply care more about Godzilla on emotional level. Kind of like with Bond. Every now and then the series formula gets stale and there may be a different movie that takes bigger risks and gets all the attention. But even when the Bond series doesn't release the absolute best of what the genre has to offet at that particular time it's still THE series.
I think it's healthy that it is compared to Godzilla! It shows Gamera is the underdog and that this Heisei trilogy is better than 80% of most Godzilla films.
James Inkton 2 There are a few Godzilla films that cannot be bested and sure that’s one of them. But other then those handful of films, Gamera’s Heisei trilogy did it better. It doesn’t matter if Gamera is a cheap knockoff, he evolved into his own character and became an icon. Same with Godzilla (1998) spawning his own kaiju known as Zilla which people respect.
@@KingKong19100 I agree. Everything is a 'knockoff' of the original. Hell, Godzilla himself is a knockoff to The Beast of 20,000 Fathoms, they even wanted to do claymation but went with a suit for cost reasons.
Imagine wanting to make a Godzilla film for years but never getting the chance so in order to make a Godzilla film you take a monster that is a clone of Godzilla and make it into a masterpiece trilogy that ends up being better then Godzilla, and then you get to make a Godzilla film known as Godzilla Mothra and fricken King Ghidora, Giant Monsters All-Out Attack. Making both of the monsters works of art.
Fricken wild
Absolute Chad move right there.
Person responsible for all of that deserves legend status in the kaiju world
How is Gamera a clone?
I really like to see the heisei gamera trilogy as a successor to the heisei godzilla era, taking everything good about those movies and amplifying it along with adding new elements to the story to make it unique.
6:23 whether people want a movie that has lighter moments or one that just gets darker and darker is purely based on their own taste.
Those aren't qualities of the two franchises that you can compare and claim one to be better for.
Might as well be comparing the MCU and DCU
*DCEU
Which is exactly what people do.
@@nexusshark And it's just as foolish when they do it too.
@@Draconicus702 It sure is...
As a kid I loved Gemera but since I've seen the recent incarnation, I love him even more!! Instead of making any more Godzilla movies (hollywood) they should do a epic Gemera film with the right people involved.
That would be awesome however due to the general audience not understanding/ respecting Japanese pop culture a American gamera film would probably flop since the critics would see it as a godzilla rip off even if it is based off the trilogy
If Legendary and Warner Bros ever get the rights to Gamera for it's Monster-Cinematic Universe, It will be awesome if Gamera and Godzilla faced each other.
Why Godzilla and Gamera have not crossed over is a question I will continue to ask until it happens..
Kong and Godzilla get 2 cross overs and they're much less alike than Godzilla and Gamera.. Not complaining as I love Kong but still.. It sucks, more Gamera!
@@cookiesontoast9981 To Me, Kong Skull Island is a perfect Extension to Legendary's Monsterverse and with Godzilla King of the Monsters.... it's getting ready for Legendary's take on King Kong vs Godzilla, Personally, I kinda like what Legendary are doing with the Kaiju Properties.
And as a buildup fight we get Baragon vs Barugon
Honestly, given the blatantly heroic nature of the Legendary Godzilla, and the fact that Gamera has been benevolent in nearly all his appearances, I doubt they two would be anything less than allies if they were to join the Monsterverse together. And a movie featuring Godzilla, Gamera, Kong, and the newest Mothra fighting anything would be awesome. Still disappointed that Pacific Rim didn't get worked in.
No, it wouldn't. Gamera is unworthy of sharing screentime with Godzilla.
imagine Godzilla, Gamera and Kong in a movie teaming up in taking down apex, that would be so epic.
Truly epic
@@bryane727 that would be like Monster Expendables
Late comment: i hope we get a trilogy of godzilla movies or even brand new kaiju movies that are on par with the heisei gamera trilogy, and is 10 tens better than the MonsterVerse, which had so much potential but missed it because of mediocre writing, storytelling, weak human characters and an inconsistent tone/vision/continuity. I hope we get a Godzilla trilogy that's as on the same league as Gojira 1954, GMK, Shin Godzilla, or outside the kaiju genre, the dark knight trilogy, Jurassic park and the lord of the rings trilogy. I believe someone out there can genuinely give us an amazing Godzilla trilogy with great characters, amazing effects, great and captivating stories etc. I guess we have to wait a little bit longer till we get that. Maybe one day, when i direct a kaiju movie, I'll do......
at least we have GMK by the same director
Did you know that turtles are never mentioned in the Gamera Heisei trilogy. Kaneko confirmed that turtles didn't exist in that universe to keep the monster of Gamera more mythical kinda like dragons.
Even tho I don't agree with the gmera heisei trilogy being better than thw godzilla heisei era. I do like theese movies and have a lot of respect for the studio behind gamera to make the franchise darker , more realistic and more emotional .
Really enjoying this new video format. Feels even more professional than before, keep this up.
Those 90's Gamera films were pretty amazing looking...especially compared to the TOHO films of the same era
he deserves a new movie good plot good action scenes he’s honestly one of the forgotten kaijus
With Gamera Rebirth just being released, he’s done it again. The show’s better than almost everything in recent Godzilla media
Shin Godzilla? Godzilla 2014? Gamera rebirth has painfully average reviews as well
@@darkshat3077 he said mostly, not all.
Gamera Rebirth beats SP in several fields
Ikr?
I'm not sure who has the rights to Gamera now but seeing what Legendary did with Godzilla I would love to see what they would do with Gamera.
Facts
American godzilla sucks ass! Shin is whats up
@@15r52 Toho still adores MV Godzilla very much.
@@15r52 shin only has one movie and is slower and less intelligent than legendary plus toho respects legendary godzilla
@@Kaiju-bm4ts the fact that you think legendarys is intelligent is hilarious its trite nonsense and the worst of the entire franchise outside of 98
I want an R-Rated Kaiju Movie Inspired by the heisei Trilogy.
yes
we got it already
I love Godzilla, but I have a special ( Kaiju sized) place in my heart for Gamera! Happy and Healthy New Year my friend!
Anyone notice that Gamera sounds like a bunch of cars slamming on brakes?
@lmaoooo this comment....Im dead lmaoooo
@@LTartworkx LOL I wasn't trying to be funny (necessarily) but it's true, it is not?! It sounds like all the screeching before an 18 wheeler pile up!
h5u7p5gt lmaooo your right it does
I never thought of that. LOL. I love Gamera’s bubbling scream.
In Godzilla vs king gihdora he also had the same roar
These films were, are, and always will be some of, if not, the genuine best pieces of kaiju media. Every film feels timeless and holds up gorgeously. Here's hoping Gamera Rebirth at least tries to live up to it
Never watched a Gamera film, but this video got me PUMPED. Serious question: Where is a good place to get these films? The blu-rays on Amazon have a review warning that the transfer to blu-ray was flawed, with problems of skipping, audio, subtitles. I looked on the "where to stream it" site and apparently you just *can't* stream this trilogy. What do???
I love all of the heisei Godzilla films,most lovingly as destroyah and space Godzilla, but gamera is still amazing, and absolutely great screenwriting, it made it very very entertaining
Legendary Godzilla often feels closer to being Heisei Gamera than Japanese Godzilla.
no im invisible
It's that I've always found things between the Monsterverse Godzilla and the Heisei Gamera even in spite of the many differences that they still possesses.
*In their respective first films, both these creatures reemerge within the modern day and face off against an ancient enemy sometime after to continue to keep things in check. In Gamera's case, It's Gyaos. In Godzilla's case, it's the MUTOs.
*The Gyaos and MUTO were reawakened due to actions caused by humanity. For Gyaos, it was the destruction of the environment. For the MUTOs, it was due to activities from humans and feeding on nuclear energy.
*Both aimed to stop their respective enemies from reproducing and spawning more of them.
*Both are not specifically concerned in protecting humanity and are either fighting to restore balance and/or fight for the greater good of all life on Earth.
*Both have often unintentionally caused collateral damage during their battles.
*Both were seen as either just as big a threat or an even bigger threat in the eyes of the military and are even attacked by them during the events of their first films.
*And both kill their ancient enemy in the final battle by beheading them in their respective ways. Gamera blasted Super Gyaos' head off and Godzilla gave the Femuto the kiss of death.
*While Gamera 2 doesn't have him facing off against another ancient rival of his, both Gamera 2 and KOTM have the respective monsters facing off against a powerful creature that is extraterrestrial in origin.
*Both Godzilla and Gamera nearly die in their respective seconds films and each have would be "revived" or reenergized and juiced up to continue their battle with their enemies.
*The military assists them within the final battle of their respective second films.
*In their final battles, a certain sacrifices were made in order for each monster to power up the monster and have them be able to land the killing blow. In Gamera 2, the sacrifice would be a huge amount of the earth's mana and would eventually cause many of the Hyper Gyaos in Gamera 3 to emerge. In KOTM, Mothra sacrificed herself for Godzilla to provide him a huge energy boost, become Burning Godzilla and Ultimately defeat Ghidorah.
*At the end of each film, there's a looming question on just for how long each monster will be fighting for the side of humanity.
And this next one is just a possibility:
*And while the reasons for why Godzilla and Gamera cause destruction in Gamera 3 and Godzilla vs Kong are likely very different, it does seem like that like Gamera with the Hyper Gyaos, Godzilla is likely set off by the existence of a "certain machine" and is going desperately and recklessly out of his way to find and destroy said machine.
(But that's somewhat of a speculation on me. I still doubt that what we're seeing causing all that destruction in the film is just Mechagodzilla in disguise).
And obviously, with all those similarities, they still got a tone of differences from each other that still makes unique from each other, aside from from the creatures and abilities they have. MV Godzilla is natural born while Gamera was created by the Atlanteans, Godzilla didn't have a telepathic bond with humanity via a Magatama and Godzilla uses more of radiation related attacks rather than plasma related ones.
@@Mafia-Zilla99 yeah I've read this on another website you copied and pasted what you said on some art website onto here but let me explain the similarities between g3 and gvk.
Now there's less similarities between the two films vs g1/g14 and g2/kotm having more overall similarities but the similarities are still there
1. Both godzilla and gamera antagonized by the media as threats to humans
2. Both iris and mechagodzilla are hidden threats that don't reveal themselves until near the end of their films
3. Both were made to specifically take out godzilla and gamera
4. Both godzilla and gamera looked intentionally more intimidating. Only difference is gamera had a slight design change while godzilla had the same look
5. The end of both movies reveal both godzilla and gamera were never the bad guys and were just doing their jobs but in more reckless ways
@@Kaiju-bm4ts yeah from Devine art.
Revenge of Iris is probably my favorite Kaiju movie of all time. Godzilla was and still is my childhood, and I love (most) of those movies to death, cheese and awkwardness and all, but this trilogy...
Not to mention that the designs for Legion and Iris are so unique, especially the latter. Like what do you even call that? How does one come up with that? It's awesome in every meaning of the word.
I really want a new gamera series and make it a cinematic universe like Marvel. Also I can't wait for Toho's Upcoming MCU like Godzilla series in the future. The future is pretty exciting and it's a big plus because my Wife and I are expecting a beautiful daughter so she will soon fall in love with Godzilla and Gamera in the near future.
I think that new Gamera show also beat Godzilla and Kong with their shows (just my opinion, don’t get mad)
I mean cmon singular point was crazy
Forget the 90s films, Gamera's been beating Godzilla at his own game since the get-go. "Gamera vs. Gaos" was the most successful Japanese monster movie of 1967, the year that every studio in Japan put out a monster movie. Ishiro Honda even sent Gamera series' writer Niisan Takahashi a congratulatory card. From that point on, Gamera went on to whip Godzilla's ass at the box office every year. "Gamera vs. Viras" was a sleeper hit and far outperformed "Destroy All Monsters." "Gamera vs. Guiron" outgrossed "Godzilla's Revenge." And "Gamera vs. Jiger" was the most successful Gamera movie to that point. Unfortunately, we don't have any data on how well "Gamera vs. Zigra" did, probably because of the riot that happened in 1971. However, I doubt it touched "Godzilla vs. Hedorah," which was one of the most successful Japanese films that year. At any rate, this is why Toho hates Gamera to this day. They can't deal with the fact this "rip-off" was beating their guy with audiences.
And "Gamera, Super Monster" wasn't an attempt to revive the series. It was a movie contractually forced into production by Tokuma Publishing, who then owned Daiei, because they found the contracts signed by the Gamera makers for an eighth movie meant to be made for 1972. They then refused to give Noriaki Yuasa a proper budget and made him use the stock footage. He tried to shoot new sequences with a new Gamera suit, but the Vistavision matting processing they were using for that film screwed up and made most of the new footage unusable.
When Gamera came back in the 90s, the films themselves may have been more cleverly made than the Godzillas of the period, but they didn't even touch what the Heisei Godzillas were bringing in at the box office (and "Gamera 3" even bombed).
Thanks, Gamera was always a winner, had zero losses, and this is why only Gamera can do what it takes to make wins flawless and masterful, this includes saving kids lives. Gamera saves lives.
@@eewilson9835 What do you mean "zero losses"? He lost once to Barugon, once to Gaos, twice to Jiger, once to Zigra, and once to Legion.
@@ConstantineFurman No please don't say.
So if the Godzilla movies had better directors, this wouldn't be a topic?????
Pretty much, and probibly better actors.
yeah, but nothing would happen in the fights, and Godzilla would just hug the monsters the whole time if it was written by the same people.
@@GSTE_ Even though that's what he did during the Heisei Series.
@@sammy1552 well actually he didn't, and the only time Godzilla would hug someone is for a couple seconds and it was while he was hitting the monsters, which could be clearly seen most of the time, unlike what they did for gamera.
If they’re scrapping Shin Godzilla for a cinematic universe I’d take Shin Gamera...
At the end of the day Godzilla is and always be the king of the monsters and that's a fact jack!
If I had my way, Gamera would give him a serious run for his money again. I’m sorry, as much as I love Godzilla, the heisei Gamera stomped Heisei Godzilla.
@@veelalynne Box office and worldwide reputation say no. Heisei Godzilla CLEARLY stomped Gamera. Personal tastes aside.
Exactly! Maybe due to fan exposure, that is why so many Gamera fans. I grew up in Phoenix Arizona, USA, and it was always about Godzilla. Gamera, was just hard to capture the attention. While Godzilla had it's silliness, Gamera seem to go beyond that.
@@BenniRoR Of course, knowledge and collection outweigh the quality, obvious.
@@drewstar412 The thing about Gamera is: you've got tons and tons of absolutely silly and dumb movies and a couple of good movies.
With Godzilla you've got many silly movies but just as many good movies and on top of that a couple of masterpieces. That's what sets Godzilla apart from Gamera.
Gamera was a cash grab to begin with. Daei wanted to cash in on the success of the Godzilla movies. It never had anything interesting to tell right from the start of the series. That's not to say that all Gamera movies suck but they were never able to compete on the big stage.
I remember queuing this up on Netflix back when all they had was their mailing service. Already a lifelong fan of Godzilla, I had heard people rave about this trilogy as some of the finest work in the kaiju genre, and I was surprised when Netflix had it in their disc catalog. Each movie I watched got me more hyped and eagerly anticipating the next dvd. And now I proudly own the blu-ray trilogy set from Mill Creek, after getting the subtitles issue for G3 sorted out.
Great vid. Excellent points that would make for lively discussion. When it comes to Daiei Studios, I personally feel thier greatest achiveiment was with the Damajin Trilogy. All three films were filmed back to back in 1966. The third and highly recommended The Wraith of Daimajin, is simply stunning and would look incredible on a big screen. If you do not know anything about the Daimajn Trilogy, what are you waitng for.
Universal truth
60s godzilla, it's not that bad at least is not gamera
90s godzilla, not bad but it's not gamera
I’m waiting for a modern big budget Gamera film
Warner Bros.: Godzilla
Universal Pictures: Gamera
I liked Gamera better than Godzilla aswell and think he was better in his own game, gameras final fights were also better.
Godzilla king of the monsters
Gamera king of the galaxy
Ultra man king of the universe
Gamera is a guardian
More like Gamera, emperor of monsters or the titanic turtle.
And godzillla is still the strongest
@@kaikuzuki perhaps only to you, not us.
@@gradylivingston516 I'm speaking facts not opinion ultraman can't do shit to godzilla what's gamera gonna do breath fire and blast plasma out of his body
The fact that they made these amazing films on a shorter budget than Godzilla perfectly shows something I think films are missing. More money doesn’t mean better, quality makes the movies better.
Monsterverse would be perfect for Gamera. Make him someone that Godzilla respects and actually leaves alone because he knows this other kaiju isn’t a threat to him.
Gamera is much like Ultraman. Once his enemy defeated then fly to space again.
And he protects humans
I like both Gamera and Ultraman.
It's funny to see this video when I'm a Godzilla fan and I've just started to watch Gamera today :))
It's destiny!
I think one reason i think the Gamera trilogy was better than the Heisei Godzilla series is that Kaneko had creative control over the projects. When Kaneko made GMK, that movie felt like the director was under Toho's control. I think Toho is treating Godzilla as a safe cash cow.
Toho did that ever since they made King Kong vs Godzilla.
I can see clear inspiration from "When a Turtle Was Better Than Godzilla" in your video, though that one focuses more on why heisei Gamera was so good and didn't talk so much about the history. I'd highly recommend that video to everyone here.
I can't remember where I read it, but apparently Kaneko watched the old Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes that ripped on Gamera so they'd know what *not* to do when making the new movies.
I love the heisei gamera trilogy. We need a 4k hdr remastered
It’s too bad that the 2016 short film wasn’t a movie
One thing that Godzilla has that Gamera does is AMERICAN Appeal. I mean why haven't we heard of American studios trying to take their mark with the Gamera series yet ?
Great vid, Gamera’s truely remarkable! Happy new year!
THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO IS A BLASPHEMY TO GODZILLA!...
...But it's also true.
Gr8 Video. 👍
While I do enjoy Gamera and believe that the Gamera trilogy are the best movies of Gamera, I do believe that Godzilla is better.
Well there's no denying that the Heisei Gamera movies were done better than the Heisei Godzilla movies, but I agree that a lot of the time I'd rather watch a Godzilla movie.
But then again if I'm gonna watch a Gamera movie it's usually either Gamera Vs Barugon or Gamera Vs Guiron.. They're my 2 favorites, my 3rd is Revenge of Iris but I just tend to watch the other 2 I mentioned much more.
Imo, one of the things that makes the Gamera trilogy better than the heisei Godzilla era was simply the characters (like Asagi and Ayana) were better written than the Heisei Godzilla characters (the only enjoyable character in the Heisei Godzilla movies was Miki Saiagusa). Plus the cinematography were a bit better (like when Gamera and Iris were starting at each other as Kyoto burns).
But both Heisei reboots are masterpieces.
Gamera was mostly a joke until "Heisei Series" dropped, those Kaiju Films are Great! They combine a great human story with Kaiju fighting action!
Yeah no, the hesisi era of Godzilla was all fantastic and while yes they fell back on what was safe they still revived the classic monsters like mothra and Ghidorah. They were not only fantastic but also very financially benefiting to toho. Their slip ups being being biollante (though well reviewed) and space Godzilla but we’re still outstanding.
Gamera’s trilogy was also fantastic but comparing the 2 is one and the same. They both did the same and did upped their antics to their max but your bs hate of Godzilla hesiei is kind of sad dude…
It's a damn shame that the English translations aren't up to snuff & hard to find.
gamera was at the top after the heisei godzilla ends, until it got put in its place by Godzilla 2000, oof
1:47 thats why Gamera is better than Gojira...
The ending of the last one kinda made me mad but yeah the gamera trilogy is top quality.
It's honestly Impressive of how despite the trilogy was made under a smaller budget, It has much more story, character, and great camera work.
It really shows that so long as you have something creative, you can make something truly amazing even with a smaller budget.
This trilogy was a highlight of my childhood. Hopefully we'll see more Gamera films someday soon now that Kaiju are popular.
Indeed, this would be the most opertune time to release another entry in the series.
Godzilla rules gamera drools
@@benmar You must be a kid.
I reeeeeally wanna see Gamera in the Monsterverse if it keeps going so we can have a third big monster main character outside of Godzilla and Kong, it would help sell tickets and it would bring an old character into the light.
Gamera IS better than godzilla
But not that strong his movies a lot better than the heisei era
Personally, while the Gamera trilogy is great as it is and is generally superior when compared to the Heisei Godzilla film series. I still atleast prefer Godzilla 1985, Biollante and Destoroyah over these films. I fundamentally prefer how Godzilla's themes ties into political and social commentary and the animalistic approach to Godzilla's character in the Heisei series I still ultimately prefer over Gamera's mystical origins. Despite the superior technical aspects such as the SFX and cinematography, those three Heisei films along with Shin and the 1954 film still beat out the Gamera trilogy for me. Though I still prefer the Gamera trilogy over about every other Godzilla film.
Gamera brings me nostalgia, when I was a kid I would always watch it because I had the disk to one of the movies.
If they ever do another gamera movie, they should have its sequel be Gamera VS Godzilla.
6:37
Well, maybe except for Rodimus going from 'that bitch-ass punk who got Optimus killed' to 'robo-Kamina' during the IDW run
Hope in future we will see Godzilla vs Gamera from WB in all world, but first we need horror movie with him
I thin Gamera vs Shin Gojira will be most great kaiju movie in history
Respect to the other Big G
Godzilla vs Kong scored unusually high with critics and viewers for a kaiju film. Adding Gamera to the mix only raises the bar.
kaiju assemble
This trilogy is absolutely incredible I really love the gamera hesei trilogy not only are they my favourite kaiju films their one of my favourite films in general I’d even go as far as to say their better than some Godzilla films
I remember watching a couple of Gamara movies as a kid. I'm sure my dad just thought it was similar to Godzilla and got it for us from a movie store or something 😁
Edit: After watching this video, I think we must have watched a part of the Trilogy, though I can't remember much of it
Heisei gamera was epic
Thank you, I am going to check out the Gamera trilogy. You got me into a giant turtle mood.
Remember when he was in the grim adventures of Billy and mandy
I love how you are a huge fan of Godzilla but also impartially critical of any of its aspects that deserve criticism. That's what makes this channel awesome.
Man I love me some Gamera
I always remember how silly Gamera was when I was little., but it was entertaining seeing him do gymnastics or fly away inside his shell with fire coming. Out of the holes of his shell. I did see a gamera movie when I was older and it was just terrible. I never knew they had done a Gamera trilogy. Now I will be on the hunt for it after watching ur video. It looks good. Love your video breakdowns! Keep up the excellent work!
Wow, I need to check out these Gamera films. I never rly got into Gamera so ended up missing these gems
I Wonder if we are gonna get a shin gamera vs. Shin Godzilla?
Well, before that "vs" movie, they need to make "Shin Gamera" first. Maybe Anno will be interested after he's done with Shin Ultraman.
@@androyus could imagine shin Godzilla, vs. Shin Ultraman vs. Shin Gamera? that would be a shin0tacular crossover movie i'd watch.