Still think the Raptors got shafted because they waited a year longer than they should’ve. Raptors fans who aren’t casual seem to not like it, but they got the best they probably could’ve considering how Masai likes to tank a player’s value before trading.
@@J10005 Quickley and Barrett are giant MAYBEs in exchange for OG. Adding them made us better because we finally have DEPTH and our bench can now do something besides stand around getting scored on..... but OG was one of our BEST players, an elite 3-and-D guy we just handed to a conference rival. Giving away two of our best players for a couple rotation guys and a few benchwarmers means we're less likely to lose to BAD teams, but we absolutely positively do NOT have the talent to compete with anyone in the top four in the East. Fanbois can say what they want. The Raps are not a better team than they were a month ago.
@@DoggosintheHouse Draft Picks are maybes Young Players are also maybes. When teams stagnate/start to get bad they trade their eatsblished stars rolling the dice on these maybes banking on their potential. From the looks of it the last 3 weeks it is paying off very well. I like OG a lot but he's gonna ask for a major bag worth at least 30 million minimum something that would have been very hard to afford especially if we kept Siakam as well. I would have tried to get a young player like Walker if Mathurin was untouchable but 3 draft picks is an alright haul for Siakam who's gonna ask for a big 5 year pay raise and who is entering his 30s
It's a good thing pacers got siakam he can play defense, shoot, fadeaway, drive, rebound, pass basically do everything and the pacers might go up in standings.
Pacers are absolutely garbage on defense. Outscoring people in the playoffs doesn't equal wins. This trade will do nothing as far as helping Indy's chances to win the chip. And if he walks at the end of the season the Pacers just wasted 3 1st round picks.
@@roboninja3194pacers defense had increased immensely when they put Jalen smith into the starting lineup and instantly went on a 6 game win streak if siakam can be as good on defense if not better than Jalen ur defense is middle of pack which is good enough to make some noise which the pacers are looking to do
He can't shoot FTs. Good luck when the game is on the line. He does not have the finger roll, may be because he started paying basketball when he was 15, that's late.
It hurts, but both of the big trades Toronto made should be win-win deals. RJ and Quickley already look really good in Toronto, while the Knicks are 6-2 with OG and he's transformed their defense. Meanwhile, Masai has hit on low firsts before (see Pascal and OG), so those Pacer 1sts can be used to add, at worst, good role players, while Pascal should fill all the holes that Indy has. Not even to mention the fact they can get even more picks for Bruce Brown and GTJ. Toronto probably could've done better if they did this a year ago, but they're on the right path.
@@MrRapmaster19 Why do people keep bringing that up? Masai also drafted Bruno Caboclo, and plenty of benchwarmers. Sure, Pascal and OG turned out ok, but odds are pretty good that a low first rounder will be a dud. The Raps aren't in need of more mid-range role players. They need top end talent, because like it or not Scottie simply isn't good enough to carry a team to a title.
Second time you mentioned that Memphis has GS's 2024 pick. That pick was traded to Boston in the Marcus Smart trade, which was then traded to Portland in the Jrue Holiday trade. It's Top 4 protected though to GS.
Love this trade for both teams. For the Raps Aplus the Pacers: A- it’s risky for Pacers but the picks aren’t too valuable. Only problem is Pacers aren’t contenders now and by the time they are ready Spicy P might be 32.
I think if you look at other teams in the east I’m pretty sure if things work out this year pacers can be a top 3 team in the east. If Siakam meshes well with the squad I would say pacers can be a top 3 team in the east. Only bucks and Celtics and maybe heat are better talent wise.
If Spicy P still plays well they can still make adjustments. I do think it's important to give Hali the chance to play with another star player and really try to win some meaningful games in the playoffs. Playing those games really help the growth of a player
it's not like siakam is gonna be a roleplayer in 3 years he's still in his prime and his playing style isn't super reliant on his athleticism age isnt gonna take away his height wingspan and post moves he still fits with the timeline of haliburton and mathurin.
Siakam's best asset is his athleticism and speed when aggressively driving for +1 layups against strong defenses. As much as I like him I think he's gonna start fading soon.
Casey, the 24 Warriors pick you spoke on is no longer in Memphis possession. The pick was traded to the Celtics in the KP/Smart/Jones trade. The Celtics later traded the Warriors pick with Brogdan and Williams to Portland for Jrue Holiday.
picks are picks, doesn't matter low or high. if you look at the past decade+ of drafts, you're just as likely to find a top 10 player from picks 11-30 as you are picks 1-10. very good trade for toronto
If you look at the past decade like 60% of the players drafted 11-30 are out of the league. Top 10 players are pretty major outliers it's lucky to even get a decent role player outside of the Lottery
@@OK-yy6qz more like 40%, which is about the same as 1-10. look at the 2020 draft, just 4 years later and half the top 10 are clinging on by a thread. not coincidentally the Pistons have two of those players. meanwhile the 4th best player in the draft was taken with the 30th pick.
The chances of hitting on a pick, decreases the lower you go in the draft. So it's like shooting a mid range compared to a 3, iz just math my dude, the higher the picks are always worth more
@@xavirik4828 in theory. in reality every pick is a complete gamble because college is watered down, the G League is a joke and Euroleague scouting is hit and miss. we really have no idea how good these guys are until they play an actual game in the NBA. I'd rather have three 15-30 picks than a top 5 pick. It's like bingo, you just want as many numbers in the tumbler as possible, doesn't really matter what the number is.
Not sure what the Warriors can do at this point, but trading Kuminga seems like a win-win for both sides. Who cares what the fans want their job is to watch the games. The FO needs to make the move to stay competitive, or tear it all down. I don’t envy Mike Dunleavy. Bob Myers kind of left him between a rock and a hard place and he will be the guy who gets scapegoated instead of Bob.
A part of me likes and hates this trade, if the Raptors had given Pascal the max, they would have probably gotten Mathurin and Walker. Also, it does kinda suck not getting, Toppin, Smith, Hield, or Neismith, which I do find weird cause their minutes are going down now because Pascal is in the Lineup (especially Toppin and Smith). But hey, at least they didn't lose him for nothing, so I'll accept this trade. Although the picks are low, this team has a solid reputation for selecting good late in the draft. Ironically the 2 guys they traded are the prime examples (OG 23rd, and Siakam 27th).
Masai has just as many draft misses as draft hits. Besides, the pick they gave up for Poeltl is now MUCH more valuable than any of the picks they got for Siakam.
Pacers wouldn't have traded those guy's. They want to keep all their rotation players together also. Which is exactly why I was initially against it. Unless it was mainly for Bruce Brown and either Nwora or possibly a Jackson. Smith plays C/PF, Jackson will be mostly on the bench. Obi will play backup PF and SF some with Nesmith. Walker is playing with the Mad Ants this year and will mostly play with the G-League like he has to develop. That will change for sure by next season. As I'd expect to see him get plenty minutes at backup PF then. It makes all the sense in the world for them to keep them. Because they're so young. Can resign them and they've already built such an amazing chemistry with eachother. Now we will be feeling this new roster around Siakam out. Then we will know where to go from there moving forward. I understand why you would want them though. But the Pacers wouldn't have done it. I honestly love Pritchard. He makes moves exactly how I would in trades. When it comes to moving pieces. If I was to make that particular trade. It wouldn't have made any sense for us if we'd traded our rotation guy's. Shooting ourselves in the foot with that and I'd rather just waited and signed guy's in FA.
Latest info says the three picks are two 2024 picks and one 2026, so it's actually less risky (the farther the picks go into the future, the more risky it is). I think it's a solid trade for both sides.
... great positive attitude, except the Raps aren't interested in picks. They GAVE UP a top pick to get Poeltl... so a bunch of low level picks is basically just trade bait for them. Masai's going all in on Barnes, who is very good but not good enough to compete at the top level.
The trade will be really evaluated on who will become those draft picks, unless being traded again...Regardless of strenght of a draft class, teams have whiffed at top propect and stars found later in the 1st round or even 2nd round...History should show us not to devalue draft picks even if low in the 1st round....
Don't think most realize the Pacers have the best bench in the league, which just got upgraded as well with this trade while simultaneously alleviating the logjam at the guard position.
I just feel that comparing this trade with the Murray trade is wrong. Murray’s fit with the Hawks was obviously wasn’t gonna work but Siakam fits perfect with Pacers
Parallels between this and the Rudy/wolves trade are incredible. Both have a young stud they want to increase the speed to content. Both gave a bunch of picks, Bruce Brown is a better player than any the wolves gave (Kessler was a draft pick not a player yet).
As a Warriors fan, as long as Curry, Draymond, and GP2 are on the team next year, that's all that matters. Klay and Dray shouldn't be untouchable, and if you can get an actual contending piece for Kuminga or Moody, trade them. Also RIP Dejan Milosevic ❤
You and I are thinking this similar thought. Zach could potentially get the Chris Webber special. Webs was traded to Sacramento years ago when the Kings were a porous team at the time. The Maloofs were new GMS. So they took some very calculated decisions to help get the franchise moving in a serious direction towards becoming a playoff team. Like acquiring Vlade Divac, Doug Christie, Mike Bibby, and other players. Charlotte and the Pistons really have an opportunity to make some very calculated moves to help turn their franchise around for the future. Acquiring a Zach LaVine talent could help either team push either of them in the direction toward becoming a playoff team for the future.
Tyrese isn't an "ask out" kind of player so Indiana has no worries there. Anyone even questioning that needs to do some more homework on who this man is.
" u can have wiggins and a pick for pg " FACTS AF😂😂. We dont wanna trade klay / dray / kuminga / moody / podz or trayce but u can have wiggins, jermome robinson, and cory jo for Jeremi Grant tho :)
It's a good thing pacers got siakam he can play defense, shoot, fadeaway, drive, rebound, pass basically do everything and the pacers might go up in standings, also it means that the Raptors are going full rebuilding mode
They dont really have much options nothing they can do in the middle of the season Pascal was the best option for them and the off season they dont really have much room trading unless they blow up the roster or do a rebuild best they can do in order to keep Curry is to blow up the rest of the roster keep Kuminga, then sign Derozan and Val then hope Kuminga breaks out next season with more PT. Then sign some role players who can play D like DeAnthony Melton, Saddiq bey or Royce O'neale. Derozan is a good iso scorer and a great passer gives Curry more oppurtunities to score off ball its like having a more skilled livingston and more skilled Bogut in Val.
man if i was a pacers fan i wouldnt like the idea of paying siakam like a no1 option when its straight up impossible to win a chip with him as a no1 option. hes one of those guys that you kinda have to pay because otherwise someone else will, but you really dont want to.
There was never any chance the Warriors were going to trade for Siakim. I said that from the start... because there's no way they would trade Kuminga for a player like Siakim... it's a lateral move. Nobody else on the Warriors can fetch some like Siakim, so it was ALWAYS an impossibility, and I don't even buy that they made an attempt to get him. The Warriors will trade for a mid-level role player, and Wiggins is the most likely trade bait.
Bro Halliburton is basically on the board and gave the nod for the trade. That’s the power he has. Second The NBA drags outside the top 5-8 aren’t what they use to be. You got to late first round pick and the one 2 years from now that’s going to be another late pick. Have them. As for brown and what’s his face, barely know them on this team. Guys want to play where there a chance to win. This is becoming that team slowly but surely. Our best put together team ever was destroyed by the Ron Artest with the malice in the palace. Which when Westbrook does it’s alright. Though those suspensions did irreversible damage. For almost 20 years. Though we never won a ring, we where competitive team and threat for a decade with good teams. Through the latter part of the 90’s and early to 2000’s. Js
I'm happy that warriors didn't trade for him. Cuz even if he came he wouldn't be a big help the sinking ship. 2nd round at max. Plus they cannot resign him in the free agency.
There is a team option in his contract, meaning if this season ends he would be a free agent if the raptors choose to let him go. To me as of now Bruce Brown is like only worth like 10-12 million due to his shooting
Since Dejounte Murray is linked to Lakers, now I hope we get Kuzma and at least have a decent season. I also think Kuminga has no chemistry with Curry or Green. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded!!
The More i think about it the More i Like for the Pacers… if it works out great you maybe have a real contender if Not and they fail they will have all their picks back in like 3 years so they have at least 3 Seasons to figure it out and if not you can trade haliburton for a hall and kickstart a rebuild thunder style
As a raptor fan, im really really gonna miss pascal! One of my favorite raptors ever. But happy for him and indy fans!
been waitin last 24 hours for this one. thx AM for the great content. needed pascal outta the 6ix anyway
This is such a win, win type trade
Great move by the pacers and Raptors got great deals in return as well 🤝
Still think the Raptors got shafted because they waited a year longer than they should’ve. Raptors fans who aren’t casual seem to not like it, but they got the best they probably could’ve considering how Masai likes to tank a player’s value before trading.
@@carsonhager9473 100%. Masai has horribly mismanaged his team... losing Fred for nothing and now getting pennies on the dollar for Pascal and OG.
@@DoggosintheHouseQuickley and Barrett are giant Ws in exchange for OG
@@J10005 Quickley and Barrett are giant MAYBEs in exchange for OG. Adding them made us better because we finally have DEPTH and our bench can now do something besides stand around getting scored on..... but OG was one of our BEST players, an elite 3-and-D guy we just handed to a conference rival.
Giving away two of our best players for a couple rotation guys and a few benchwarmers means we're less likely to lose to BAD teams, but we absolutely positively do NOT have the talent to compete with anyone in the top four in the East. Fanbois can say what they want. The Raps are not a better team than they were a month ago.
@@DoggosintheHouse Draft Picks are maybes Young Players are also maybes. When teams stagnate/start to get bad they trade their eatsblished stars rolling the dice on these maybes banking on their potential. From the looks of it the last 3 weeks it is paying off very well. I like OG a lot but he's gonna ask for a major bag worth at least 30 million minimum something that would have been very hard to afford especially if we kept Siakam as well. I would have tried to get a young player like Walker if Mathurin was untouchable but 3 draft picks is an alright haul for Siakam who's gonna ask for a big 5 year pay raise and who is entering his 30s
Hey Casey, solid breakdown.
One correction- that Warriors first round pick belongs to the Blazers after the Jrue Holiday trade. Have a good one!
It's a good thing pacers got siakam he can play defense, shoot, fadeaway, drive, rebound, pass basically do everything and the pacers might go up in standings.
Defense siakam?
Pacers are absolutely garbage on defense. Outscoring people in the playoffs doesn't equal wins. This trade will do nothing as far as helping Indy's chances to win the chip. And if he walks at the end of the season the Pacers just wasted 3 1st round picks.
Shoot?
@@roboninja3194pacers defense had increased immensely when they put Jalen smith into the starting lineup and instantly went on a 6 game win streak if siakam can be as good on defense if not better than Jalen ur defense is middle of pack which is good enough to make some noise which the pacers are looking to do
He can't shoot FTs. Good luck when the game is on the line. He does not have the finger roll, may be because he started paying basketball when he was 15, that's late.
as a raptors fan this hurts
Yes, yes it does.
same
This guy really said flip bruce brown and picks for a good young player. What team is giving us a good young player if they didn't do it for siakam??
It hurts, but both of the big trades Toronto made should be win-win deals. RJ and Quickley already look really good in Toronto, while the Knicks are 6-2 with OG and he's transformed their defense. Meanwhile, Masai has hit on low firsts before (see Pascal and OG), so those Pacer 1sts can be used to add, at worst, good role players, while Pascal should fill all the holes that Indy has. Not even to mention the fact they can get even more picks for Bruce Brown and GTJ. Toronto probably could've done better if they did this a year ago, but they're on the right path.
@@MrRapmaster19 Why do people keep bringing that up? Masai also drafted Bruno Caboclo, and plenty of benchwarmers. Sure, Pascal and OG turned out ok, but odds are pretty good that a low first rounder will be a dud. The Raps aren't in need of more mid-range role players. They need top end talent, because like it or not Scottie simply isn't good enough to carry a team to a title.
I been waiting all day for this video! Thank you!
As a warriors fan, I am sad of the passing of our beloved assistant heas coach, Dejan
That's all
Well…….as a die hard Warriors fan, there is officially no hope left for us.
Cmon man, 4 titles in the last 8 years? Give others a chance. Plus, dubs is hateable right now because of draymond
You really thought Siakam was the savior for the Warriors season? 🤣🤣🤣
Boo hoo, do you want me to play you a song with the worlds smallest violin?
Nope. I knew it. They’ve done it again. Now I wonder which guard they’ll sign since they love being the smallest team in the league.
I think it's hilarious that Warriors fans believed Masai would give them Siakam for Wiggins.
I love these types of videos!
First time watching your channel. You break things down really well. Make connections that others miss. You’ve got skills man. - Subscribed.
W trade for both teams 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Sorta indy won barley since they only gave up brown…2 out of those 3 picks finna be late first round picks
@@artLopez24they also gave up 2 young players so your not right
@@Anditzzbrown is 27? And Jordan Nwora ain’t gonna be a star or anything
@@Anditzz 2 young players that don't play for anyone
Lol not at all I might be a casual tho
Made respect for backing down on your opinion about John Collins. Add it to the so many reasons I love this channel! 🙌
Good analysis - and why this WAS a good trade for the Pacers and smart play by the Raps
As a die-hard Jazz fan, thanks for taking back what you said about John Collins.
I've been waiting on this video since last night !
Forget about the trade, bro your editing ability on this video when the trade JUST happened....you're killing it
I’m going to miss Pascal but he’s in the best situation for him to win and get paid. He’s earned it!
What a great move by the Pacers. A big playoff run is finally coming to Indi
Great breakdown!!
You are the best NBA youtuber.
Keep up the good work!
Prayers for Warriors family, fan base and friends
Let's go Pacers ❤❤❤
I love this channel!
Love your videos Casey
Second time you mentioned that Memphis has GS's 2024 pick. That pick was traded to Boston in the Marcus Smart trade, which was then traded to Portland in the Jrue Holiday trade. It's Top 4 protected though to GS.
pacers got a good one. as a raptors fan, i feel like, people do not fully realize how good of a player the pacers got.
When this guy smiles I was thinking ads gonna appear😂
Love this trade for both teams. For the Raps Aplus the Pacers: A- it’s risky for Pacers but the picks aren’t too valuable. Only problem is Pacers aren’t contenders now and by the time they are ready Spicy P might be 32.
true and hali hasnt been in the playoffs yet. only glimpse we had was in the IST where they got beat up by some play in team.
I think if you look at other teams in the east I’m pretty sure if things work out this year pacers can be a top 3 team in the east. If Siakam meshes well with the squad I would say pacers can be a top 3 team in the east. Only bucks and Celtics and maybe heat are better talent wise.
raps got fleeced, at least for OG we got decent players back, these picks are trash and bruce brown wont do shit for the raps.
If Spicy P still plays well they can still make adjustments. I do think it's important to give Hali the chance to play with another star player and really try to win some meaningful games in the playoffs. Playing those games really help the growth of a player
Don't see how you love this for the Raps... benchwarmers and low picks... None of that will help them in a rebuild.
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE JAZZ ON THIS RUN AND IF THEYRE GOING TO/ SHOULD TRADE AT THE DEADLINE🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I can see them making a deep run in the ecf
Nah
They're not on the Bucks or Celtics level
@@tristanharris8440I mean they are 4-1 against bucks and 2-2 against Celtics
@@citydubseditz001 But the playoffs are a different beast.
@@tristanharris8440 I mean they ain’t winning but they could take the bucks to 7
it's not like siakam is gonna be a roleplayer in 3 years he's still in his prime and his playing style isn't super reliant on his athleticism age isnt gonna take away his height wingspan and post moves he still fits with the timeline of haliburton and mathurin.
Siakam's best asset is his athleticism and speed when aggressively driving for +1 layups against strong defenses. As much as I like him I think he's gonna start fading soon.
this is crazy i thought that he would stay in Toronto and if he didn't i feel like he was going to the cavs for Donavon
Casey, the 24 Warriors pick you spoke on is no longer in Memphis possession. The pick was traded to the Celtics in the KP/Smart/Jones trade. The Celtics later traded the Warriors pick with Brogdan and Williams to Portland for Jrue Holiday.
RIP Dejan Milojević :(
no way this is real
@@kureijidemon unfortunately it is. He had a heart attack...
picks are picks, doesn't matter low or high. if you look at the past decade+ of drafts, you're just as likely to find a top 10 player from picks 11-30 as you are picks 1-10. very good trade for toronto
If you look at the past decade like 60% of the players drafted 11-30 are out of the league. Top 10 players are pretty major outliers it's lucky to even get a decent role player outside of the Lottery
@@OK-yy6qz more like 40%, which is about the same as 1-10. look at the 2020 draft, just 4 years later and half the top 10 are clinging on by a thread. not coincidentally the Pistons have two of those players. meanwhile the 4th best player in the draft was taken with the 30th pick.
You could draft a surprise stud like Desmond Bane or the next shit house bum like Poku
The chances of hitting on a pick, decreases the lower you go in the draft. So it's like shooting a mid range compared to a 3, iz just math my dude, the higher the picks are always worth more
@@xavirik4828 in theory. in reality every pick is a complete gamble because college is watered down, the G League is a joke and Euroleague scouting is hit and miss. we really have no idea how good these guys are until they play an actual game in the NBA.
I'd rather have three 15-30 picks than a top 5 pick. It's like bingo, you just want as many numbers in the tumbler as possible, doesn't really matter what the number is.
I think the Pacers will be fighting with the Heat and Cavs for the 4-6 spots. It’ll be interesting to see how the East shakes up.
Tyrese is injured for the season, this move isn’t for them to be good this year
Tyrese is not injured for the season. @@TrippiePinkk
@@TrippiePinkkWhat.. Hahaha
Tyrese is literally probable for the next game this week bro.. At the latest he will be back next week
@@TrippiePinkk no he isn't, like maybe another week, then he should be good
AM Hoops is the goat for having an entire video and this just happened 👑
Not sure what the Warriors can do at this point, but trading Kuminga seems like a win-win for both sides. Who cares what the fans want their job is to watch the games. The FO needs to make the move to stay competitive, or tear it all down. I don’t envy Mike Dunleavy. Bob Myers kind of left him between a rock and a hard place and he will be the guy who gets scapegoated instead of Bob.
I’m pumped out here in The Basketball State
It’s a win win the pacers are already good they have the best pg in the east they did the right thing
A part of me likes and hates this trade, if the Raptors had given Pascal the max, they would have probably gotten Mathurin and Walker. Also, it does kinda suck not getting, Toppin, Smith, Hield, or Neismith, which I do find weird cause their minutes are going down now because Pascal is in the Lineup (especially Toppin and Smith). But hey, at least they didn't lose him for nothing, so I'll accept this trade. Although the picks are low, this team has a solid reputation for selecting good late in the draft. Ironically the 2 guys they traded are the prime examples (OG 23rd, and Siakam 27th).
Masai has just as many draft misses as draft hits. Besides, the pick they gave up for Poeltl is now MUCH more valuable than any of the picks they got for Siakam.
Pacers wouldn't have traded those guy's. They want to keep all their rotation players together also. Which is exactly why I was initially against it. Unless it was mainly for Bruce Brown and either Nwora or possibly a Jackson. Smith plays C/PF, Jackson will be mostly on the bench. Obi will play backup PF and SF some with Nesmith. Walker is playing with the Mad Ants this year and will mostly play with the G-League like he has to develop. That will change for sure by next season. As I'd expect to see him get plenty minutes at backup PF then. It makes all the sense in the world for them to keep them. Because they're so young. Can resign them and they've already built such an amazing chemistry with eachother. Now we will be feeling this new roster around Siakam out. Then we will know where to go from there moving forward.
I understand why you would want them though. But the Pacers wouldn't have done it. I honestly love Pritchard. He makes moves exactly how I would in trades. When it comes to moving pieces. If I was to make that particular trade. It wouldn't have made any sense for us if we'd traded our rotation guy's. Shooting ourselves in the foot with that and I'd rather just waited and signed guy's in FA.
I wanted Matharin so bad. I would have even done a one for one maybe lol.
Latest info says the three picks are two 2024 picks and one 2026, so it's actually less risky (the farther the picks go into the future, the more risky it is). I think it's a solid trade for both sides.
@@DoggosintheHouse so as about every team in the NBA for which you can easily list their hit and misses low or high in the draft. It's a crap shoot...
They bouta make a deep run
The Pacers? 😂
With all star caliber player who helped bring a chip yea
Pacers go to Toronto 2 more times this season should be interesting games. Be even wild if they went up against in the post season 😳
i heard for 3 years the warriors trading for siakam and i always told fans i'll believe it when/if it happens and look didn't get traded there
Insane how the raptors are going all in
Agreed and when they flip the 2 Firsts and GTJ for Dejounte Murray well...
Absolute win-win. Siakam stars as a No. 2 with Hali while the Raptors start fresh with picks they can hopefully turn into another Pascal
There is no other Pascal
yeah not likely lol these picks are gonna be trash trust me
... great positive attitude, except the Raps aren't interested in picks. They GAVE UP a top pick to get Poeltl... so a bunch of low level picks is basically just trade bait for them. Masai's going all in on Barnes, who is very good but not good enough to compete at the top level.
Am hoops once again proving his name should be P.M hoops 🔥
The trade will be really evaluated on who will become those draft picks, unless being traded again...Regardless of strenght of a draft class, teams have whiffed at top propect and stars found later in the 1st round or even 2nd round...History should show us not to devalue draft picks even if low in the 1st round....
This is HUGE
Don't think most realize the Pacers have the best bench in the league, which just got upgraded as well with this trade while simultaneously alleviating the logjam at the guard position.
As far as I can tell Pacers fans, including myself love this trade. I feel we didn't give up that much and that we are sure to resign him.
Warriors will not ascend if they dont let go of the nostalgia…
I just feel that comparing this trade with the Murray trade is wrong. Murray’s fit with the Hawks was obviously wasn’t gonna work but Siakam fits perfect with Pacers
Parallels between this and the Rudy/wolves trade are incredible. Both have a young stud they want to increase the speed to content. Both gave a bunch of picks, Bruce Brown is a better player than any the wolves gave (Kessler was a draft pick not a player yet).
As a nuggets fan it would be great to steal Bruce from Toronto for a couple of picks and some scrubs.
Go for it... looks like collecting trash picks and benchwarmers is Masai's new rebuild strategy.
The fanbases of the Warriors, Hawks, Bulls, Nets, Blazers, Kings, Suns, and somehow the Lakers just let out a collective cry of disappointment.
As a Warriors fan, as long as Curry, Draymond, and GP2 are on the team next year, that's all that matters. Klay and Dray shouldn't be untouchable, and if you can get an actual contending piece for Kuminga or Moody, trade them. Also RIP Dejan Milosevic ❤
sad day for the warriors man rip dejan
Pacers will regret giving him the max
Siakam lookin like captain ginyu
Damn he already played.
Now I starting to think where LaVine could go... Detroit or Charlotte
You and I are thinking this similar thought. Zach could potentially get the Chris Webber special. Webs was traded to Sacramento years ago when the Kings were a porous team at the time. The Maloofs were new GMS. So they took some very calculated decisions to help get the franchise moving in a serious direction towards becoming a playoff team. Like acquiring Vlade Divac, Doug Christie, Mike Bibby, and other players.
Charlotte and the Pistons really have an opportunity to make some very calculated moves to help turn their franchise around for the future.
Acquiring a Zach LaVine talent could help either team push either of them in the direction toward becoming a playoff team for the future.
Tyrese isn't an "ask out" kind of player so Indiana has no worries there. Anyone even questioning that needs to do some more homework on who this man is.
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Mavs we’re in the same exact position with Luka. He was so good so fast they went out to get kp. Hoping this works so the Celtics don’t win.
" u can have wiggins and a pick for pg " FACTS AF😂😂.
We dont wanna trade klay / dray / kuminga / moody / podz or trayce but u can have wiggins, jermome robinson, and cory jo for Jeremi Grant tho :)
Raptors can trade away Brown and combine their picks for a higher pick, and hopefully get a good high pick.
It's a good thing pacers got siakam he can play defense, shoot, fadeaway, drive, rebound, pass basically do everything and the pacers might go up in standings, also it means that the Raptors are going full rebuilding mode
P struggled all his career to hit 30% 3points, i wouldnt want Siakam to be the guy to take the last shot. hes not a really good shooter dude.
Honestly, Siakam has never been elite. Slightly above average at best
The pacers have just become a contender to win the NBA finals for sure
idk abt that
LMFAO
You should make siakam's headband yellow on the thumbnail
Warriors better have something big up their sleeves.
They dont really have much options nothing they can do in the middle of the season Pascal was the best option for them and the off season they dont really have much room trading unless they blow up the roster or do a rebuild best they can do in order to keep Curry is to blow up the rest of the roster keep Kuminga, then sign Derozan and Val then hope Kuminga breaks out next season with more PT. Then sign some role players who can play D like DeAnthony Melton, Saddiq bey or Royce O'neale. Derozan is a good iso scorer and a great passer gives Curry more oppurtunities to score off ball its like having a more skilled livingston and more skilled Bogut in Val.
man if i was a pacers fan i wouldnt like the idea of paying siakam like a no1 option when its straight up impossible to win a chip with him as a no1 option. hes one of those guys that you kinda have to pay because otherwise someone else will, but you really dont want to.
I heard abt this trade go down when I was in target 😂
Portland has the Warriors 1st round pick this year, not Cleveland.
I wish the cavs would've made a move to get him, def type of player they need. Good move 4 the Pacers though.
They managed to hang on to Matharin so I think Pacers win the trade. The picks are all late firsts from what I understand.
There was never any chance the Warriors were going to trade for Siakim. I said that from the start... because there's no way they would trade Kuminga for a player like Siakim... it's a lateral move. Nobody else on the Warriors can fetch some like Siakim, so it was ALWAYS an impossibility, and I don't even buy that they made an attempt to get him. The Warriors will trade for a mid-level role player, and Wiggins is the most likely trade bait.
Bro Halliburton is basically on the board and gave the nod for the trade. That’s the power he has. Second The NBA drags outside the top 5-8 aren’t what they use to be. You got to late first round pick and the one 2 years from now that’s going to be another late pick. Have them. As for brown and what’s his face, barely know them on this team. Guys want to play where there a chance to win. This is becoming that team slowly but surely. Our best put together team ever was destroyed by the Ron Artest with the malice in the palace. Which when Westbrook does it’s alright. Though those suspensions did irreversible damage. For almost 20 years. Though we never won a ring, we where competitive team and threat for a decade with good teams. Through the latter part of the 90’s and early to 2000’s. Js
Poor Lonzo catching up a stray at the end of the video.
I'm happy that warriors didn't trade for him. Cuz even if he came he wouldn't be a big help the sinking ship. 2nd round at max. Plus they cannot resign him in the free agency.
Real question is who will get Bruce brown, similar player to Alex Caruso but he is making 23 for two years 🤔
There is a team option in his contract, meaning if this season ends he would be a free agent if the raptors choose to let him go.
To me as of now Bruce Brown is like only worth like 10-12 million due to his shooting
I have no idea why they made this trade, the pacers have a million power forwards
Indiana taxes and cost of living is way less than Toronto's true metropolis vibe. And never doubt the Pacers ability to sign and trade just ask Bruce.
Good move. Congrats.
The hawks are not the best example, because Trae has not demanded a trade.
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its crazy though, i thought this is amazing for raptors since they have young talent but no
Klay Thompson for Kris Middleton 👀 😳 🔥
saying the late picks aren't valuable is dumb. remember raptors drafted siakam pick 27
Since Dejounte Murray is linked to Lakers, now I hope we get Kuzma and at least have a decent season. I also think Kuminga has no chemistry with Curry or Green. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded!!
BIG W for the Pacers.
I dont like this trade due to they took him from Dubs option but for them is great
im gunna say Brain Trauma of some description led to this trade lol
Doesn't portland own golden states 1st top 4 protected in the upcoming draft?
The More i think about it the More i Like for the Pacers… if it works out great you maybe have a real contender if Not and they fail they will have all their picks back in like 3 years so they have at least 3 Seasons to figure it out and if not you can trade haliburton for a hall and kickstart a rebuild thunder style
i thought buddy was gonna get traded. win-win for both teams.
hopefully PG13 comes home to indiana and forms a big 3
It’s over for the warriors
Thanks
i think the blazers actually own the pick