I know about the helmet and it's still annoying to use. You either have to hit your target directly, and immediately put on the helmet (limiting your movement), or toss it and wait for it's insanely long fuse, then block it with the helmet. All of this just gives you a slow and cumbersome attack pattern all because you have to protect yourself from your own attack. It's nice that it's the best screen clear in the game, but the waiting and the damage make it too annoying for me to want to use often.
@@RangerTheWarrior It.. Might not actually be a lightsaber, but instead a beam sword. They're very similar, but beam swords are from Gundam, which is pretty popular in Japan. Of course, it could very well be a reference to both, but I think it's very possible that they felt more inspired by Gundam instead, since Kirby 64 only came out like, 8 months after The Phantom Menace.
@@carnage0685 I believe for Phantom Menace the teaser trailers having Darth Maul with twin red lightsaber totally inspired Kirby developers to put it in there as it was highly anticipated and hyped to the point there was already games and figures leaks :) as well as juxtaposition with Gundam references yes
Its not a matchbox because the striker strip (rough part) on a matchbook is essentially sandpaper and would not bend the way Kirby uses it. It’s also a towel bc it’s fire+SPARK! Static electricity; there are literally warnings at gas stations to not enter and exit your vehicle while pumping gas bc static electric shocks can ignite gasoline.
It's a tinder sheet. You can find them with camping supplies. A lot of places sell them as lighting paper since the dating website has made it impossible to Google
One function I really missed from this game that I don't hear people talking about is the ability to hold the enemies over your head instead of just spit them out. I like how of you're holding a bronto burt it almost acts like a parachute and you'll hover every time you jump and float down. Or if you hold a glunk it will keep shooting upwards and kill enemies above you
I actually used to think that Melting Ice Cube was designed in a way that it would always hurt you in exchange for occasionally tickling an enemy in just such a way that it spontaneously combusts Edit: Also...dynamite is a guilty pleasure of mine, just because the helmet reminds me of the Mets from Mega Man, but I do admit that it’s pretty garbage
Actually, that hat is apparently used in Japanese construction or something. This explains why you see it in a lot of Japanese games, and here it probably fits better here than it did in Mega Man because if you want some demolition you should wear a hard hat to protect your head.
I miss this system of copy abilities. I'd love for truly combining abilities to return instead of the elemental effects on attacks that we got in star allies.
Actually, regular Fire is used for regular speedrunning, too. It's really good =P Double Fire is also used a lot, and some Fire combos are used for boss fights. Basically Fire's kinda nasty in this game =P also I would have subbed but I DO NOT ACCEPT MELTING ICE CUBE SLANDER THAT ABILITY IS HYPE (actually subbed though I enjoyed both Kirby videos! Good stuff.)
Noticing some references in forgotten land. Besides the obvious Swiss Army knife one, the dragon flame abilities fire ball move seems to take inspiration from this games double fire ability and the fridge Kirby is definitely a precursor to mouthful mode
@@RangerTheWarrior Oh I see. But still if those two abilities where to be in a future game like another forgotten land, they would be great. And the fact that they are different enough with metal always keeping you in your metal form and stone could be more like mega stone where Kirby could pull rocks and cover himself in those rocks, essentially creating a stone mech that can turn into a mess of rocks to roll around.
I feel like someone once gave you the public speaking advice of "talk slowly", and then forgot to teach you that talking in a video is different from speaking in person. You could stand to cut out your own pauses to keep a more consistent flow of words whenever you are on the same thought
something worth noting on the start of C tier for kirby abilitys swiss army was confirmed to be cluster needle by nintendo themself when they brought the skill in kirby and the forgotten city.
The Spark/Burning combo isn’t really a Match ability. I think of it as a Static ability due to Kirby rubbing the towel on him and then igniting. Great video!
me: I agree with refrigerator ranking at 1st, You are technically immortal since you have unlimited ability uses and it trows food that you can use to heal.
You know, if they wanted fire and ice to be useful, they could have turned Kirby into a smoke bomb, spewing a continuous gas in all directions while bouncing off the ground. Alternatively, it could have been a water gun, or a boiling pot of water that Kirby tips over and spills onto the ground. Heck, it could have even been the cleaning pitch bucket toss
I loved using double lightning in the water level where you fall down for a while. Just hold the power and it'd zap everything on its way down. So satisfying. I also loved using double fire Phoenix 🔥, and the fireworks move were a lot of fun too. The small bird Pitch was what I'd use to let my little brother play.
I'm surprised that you put flaming arrow in A tier. I never liked how I had to hold the button to make an accurate shot was during my playthrough. Don't hate you for your opinion tho. I'm also glad you mentioned how op the fire sword is lmao
main points of disagreement here are alligator jaws (my favorite ability for its sheer range and speed), flame bow (i don't see the point in using a shitty little slow-moving ranged weapon when the melee abilities are so massive), animal statues (pitch is kinda fun but he's not worth 20 seconds of spamming B), and electric rock (how the HELL do you control that thing)
I think you're underrating Snowflake quite a bit here: It makes you totally invincible, has fantastic range and has a perpetual hitbox, and is visually stunning and I think fun to use, which hits a lot of the pros you give higher tier abilities. I'd at least put it in the high C's or low B's. Speaking of the Low B's, I can't see bow and arrow as any better then Bomb, which basically has the same utility but gives you far better mobility. There's a few other things I'd change (ice skates i'd put higher, for example: insane mobility and good offensive use and fun flavor/theming) but those are the main things.
Double spark, fireworks, and ninja star were always my favs. They're all so broken. My least favorite was fire ice as well because of how disappointing that combo is.
yeah, fridge is amazing. back in the days, star wars was all the hype so all my friend said that double lightsaber was the best ability... until i showed them fridge and the infinite healing it bring!
I WAS WAITING FOR THE DAMN REFRI FOR THE WHOLE VIDEO HAHA 😂😂 bro I cant even remember some of the abilitys like the darth maul saber BUT DAMN that refri stood with me haha
I came here after searching up Kirby power up tier list for 64. The fact Ice and Fire weren't at the bottom made me search for a sane person. I'm glad I found one!
@@RangerTheWarrior It was on Tiermaker and they had the worse ability be dynamite, even had the protection cap on there so that made it more bizarre for me.
once i accidentally found the ninja stars in my first playthrough i pretty much didn't use anything else lol. Little sad to see missiles rank so low they were probably the most satisfying combo for me to use.
The Copy abilities in Kirby 64 were clearly attempting to streamline the sheer volume that were present in Super Star. Since those abilities weren't well balanced (In most playthroughs of that game: Mirror, Plasma and Hammer run the game. Using anything else is more so a gimmick). Kirby 64 attempts to balance more of those abilities, by combining them together to create more interesting concepts. Bomb+Stone - Dynamite is sorta a poor man's version of Crash from the previous games. But it IS reuseable. Fire+Spark - Kirby isn't rubbing a towel on his head; it's a piece of sandpaper used to quickly build up friction and ignite. Same concept as the side of a matchbox. Spark+Bomb - This is a carry over from Kirby's Dreamland 3. In that game, Kine+Spark would create a Lightbulb, and it was used for similar puzzles lighting up dark rooms. Bomb+Bomb - This was actually used in the commercial for Kirby 64. Where a pet shop owner talks about a cat and dog; then describes Kirby as being 'Kirby" as he blows up the wall nearby. Fire+Fire - This was my thought after trying it out as well. It's fun, but the endlag kills it. Fire - This is literally just Burning from Kirby's Adventure. Spark+Spark - It maybe slow; but I love the way Kirby just tap dances across the screen demolishing anything in his way. Stone+Needle - I actually never knew you could shoot it down. Learn something new every day. Fire+Needle - Once again, I never knew you could jump while doing this. I never thought of a reason why you would do that lol Stone+Cutter - I have a personal vendetta against this one, because of that one Crystal Shard. I had never played Dreamland 3 before 64; so I didn't know how the Animal Buddies function; so the riddle of learning how it worked was one of the most random puzzles ever. Still, it's a cool easter egg once you do know. Bomb+Cutter - Love the concept, and how quick it is. My only issue is at times the hitbox can be a little testy. Spark+Cutter - Won't deny the idea of Kirby Darth Mauling it up is awesome; but this attack has a bit of a delay before it swings, making you vulnerable to getting hit if you don't time it just right. Cutter+Fire - I do love this ability, became one of my favs, I almost always use it on King Dedede. Cutter+Fire and Spark+Cutter - While I do love these abilities design and conceptual wise; my biggest issue with them, is they disable your ability to float. Kirby 64 has a lot of vertical sections; and these abilities are next to useless in these sections, as they leave you vulnerable to dropping off ledges or getting crushed by moving objects. Frost+Spark - Functionality wise; it's great. Gameplay wise; it devalues all other abilities in the game. If you have a situation where you don't need an ability for a certain situation; Fridge is always optimal.
I certainly did see exploding shurikan, lightning sword and fire sword my favourites and the best of the best so i aint complaining. This editing felt really good and the list did feel really accurate but refrigerator objectively best.
I never truly appreciated the fridge ability until I went back to the elemental boss and quickly built the fridge power to heal myself since that was the only way to survive in that battle.
Just a quick question, was this video partially inspired from Wambu's top 10 Kirby 64 abilities. You guys seem to both agree on the same best abilities (also if you haven't seen his top 10 video then I guess its a coincidence that your minds both think alike)
I agree with the top because they are fun and have its nice uses, i like refrigerator more cuz is just hilarious not its actual utility, like yeah maybe a child playing the game for the first time may find infinite health busted (and it is) but when the game is so easy and how unpractical and slow attacking with food is the ability is more for giggles than useful i would say. Also, i have so say you put Fire very low, maybe is not the most creative ability but its actually the most useful one. It demolishes enemies and makes you go very fast with clever use, one of my problems with this game is how slow Kirby movement is and how combat often ruins tha pace of the game but Fire helps with both of this issues. I actually find very fun replaying the game using mostly Fire and just seing how faster i can beat each level or the entire short game, using Fire multiple times in the air is actually very fun imo.
My favorites in no particular order: Stone Cutter, Spark Cutter, Bomb Cutter, Spark Needle, Spark Stone, Burning Bomb, Stone Needle Objectively best in the game: Freeze Spark I Like Them, I Just Wish They Weren't So Slow: Burning Cutter, Burning Needle, Cutter, Cutter Cutter Disappointing: Burning Spark (should've been more like Laser or Beam!), Burning Freeze (so much potential for this one)
Splendid video, Ranger the Warrior! Thanks, bud! Could you make a video called "If Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Had A Crossover With Sonic Generations"?
I feel like most anything combined with cutter just makes for an awesome ability. Also I like melting ice cube because of just how awful it is. I’ll try to beat bosses with just melting ice cube because it sucks
The “towel” for match is actually a bit of plastic that he rubs on his head to make static electricity And light himself on fire…. That makes no sense, all he’s gonna do is attract balloons faster than and emo going to hot topic, shots fire
Static electricity is the reason you’re not supposed to get in and out of your vehicle while pumping gas… because BOOM. Static electricity is still electricity, and electricity is hot (ask any tree hit by lightning or any electrician at all)
minuet flaws teehe. Admittedly, typos happen (see below) AND this actually fits into the point you're making, so...yeah. Very nice video, man. My Tier List, slight modification to Tier Names, sorta sorted within the tier: *Tier F/I hate these:* -Fire/Ice (melting ice): Dude, all they had to do is make the ice invulnerable or do damage to enemies, and it'd *still* be awful, but not like...*this* awful. Bottom tier, but not like...superbad awful. -Stone/Bomb (Dynamite): Everything you said was true on the timing and potential damage to yourself. I *guess* this is kinda-ish this game's Crash ability. Sorta. Ish. Just really, really annoying to use. I was thinking about what ability would have made "Hammer" in this game. Aside from King Dedede obvs, I *think* this is the combo that would make the most sense, allowing a hammer-flip when holding B, slow movement, and explosion to the self if it's held too long. Would also make a mix of two really cool abilities into a non-trash one. *Tier E/Underrated stuff that I don't like, don't like using, don't want, thus belong above F tier personally, but actually should belong somewhere else because I'm an idiot shut up I don't like fridge it's hard to use* -Cutter: bleh. Looks weird/cool, but I don't like how long it is, don't like the movement changing. Just...never clicked with me. -Cutter/Cutter (big boi cutter): So, way better, except it lasts longer, and everything in life is ruined from this. -Ice/Spark (fridge): OKAY SO. The food is hard to launch, or you're having to drop above something, and it's weird, and I hate it. Except the food is cool as heck ha ha ice, but like. Like. Iunno. Yes it's amzing, but. Like. I never really liked it, and you can't move, and shut up everyone. *Tier M/M is for movement. These abilities are all kinda-ish the same, and I don't love them, but like...eh* -Fire/Spark (squeegeeman): It's funny. Kinda cool. Just kinda funny, but the auto-run is a hindrance more than not. But cool for challenges and such of trying to keep running through the level. -Spark/bomb: issa lightbulb. yay? -Ice/Bomb (snowman): It's a snowman! Just takes awhile to 'splode. -Ice/Cutter (skates): Wheeee skates! Since you can't float with this ability (because then there are no skates, and what are you doing you heathen keep the ability going), it's slightly bothersome to use. Still, probably deserves to be a higher tier, but as we say in the old country, deal with it. -Stone/Ice (curling stone): Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this one *is* fun, but yeah, no jump. Give a jump, and this is like...maybe second tier or so. -Ice/Ice (big ol' snowball): This technically fits in this tier, but it's super fun. Annoying when it pops early, as noted in the video. *Tier I/I is for aIming, because A is already taken. These are all aiming moves. I tend to not like them.* -Bomb: Eh. beh. boo. -Ice/Spark: This is where the ability *actually should go*, so y'know. But nYEH -Fire/Needle (arrow): It's like bomb, but YOU CAN JUMP! Which is really funny, but kinda eh. *Tier N/N is for needle. Ice has a lot of meh abilities for me; needle has a few that are needle, but moreso. And that doesn't bug me. I think it's a well done ability set.* -Needle: issa needle -Needle/Needle: issa bigger needle. WAY more fun due to it taking longer, and so you see stuff stuck more. But it *does* lose the anemone look, so... -Needle/Ice: So pretty! -Needle/Bomb: You're fat (because gordo in spanish means fat). Definitely the least needle-tier of the group due to movement, but it feels similar enough to me. I'm not a huge fan, but...eh, I already put it where I put it. Too late. *Tier G/The G is for Glunk, which will be relevant soon. This tier is...not well-formed, but it's like, all the stuff that do something, and fwoom. I like these abilities fairly well, actually.* -Spark: Yes, you can move in it. I know. But it's still kinda-ish in this tier. Too smol a radius, though. And this tier was briefly the "stay still and do something* tier. -Spark/Needle (lightning rod): BYANG! You don't move with it, but...who doesn't wanna be Smash Pikachu? -Fire/Fire (Phoenix Fire thingy): This is about where I'd rank it, but yeah, it doesn't fit *in this tier*. It's awesome, but the unwieldiness is annoying. Stone/Spark (boulder on a string): It's fun, it's funny, it's really annoying and you can't float, but like...throwing this and it ricocheting a lot is either great or really annoying. Probably deserves to be Tier B or...something, but...eh. I'm lazy now. Or not, me in the future who is putting it where it belongs. Just above the phoenix (well, below in this list form). Sure. -Needle/Cutter (OMNOMNOM): OMNOMNOMNOM This is rated too low based on sheer omnomnom factor. It's a good enough ability, but it is an *amazing* aesthetic design. -Burn/Stone (volcano): It's like holding a Glunk over your head, BUT YOU CAN TILT! And I love using Glunk over my head, because that's cool as heck. nyoom nyoom nyoom nyoom *Tier B/B is for...B tier. 21 abilities down, so we're at a typical B tier level I think* Ice: I'm not sure where to put Ice, but I really like the ability. It should probably be lower than some other stuff, ish, and as we're nearing the end...I think this is lower than some other stuff, ish. Fire: Perfect solo ability. Absolutely excellent. There's no situation where fire is *bad* aside from vertical scrolling, which isn't common and also the vast majority of abilities are also bad at. Excellent design, and I want to see what it can mix into. Perfect. Bomb/Bomb (rockets): It's rockets. SUPER cool, but also a bit meh as you covered in the video. You'd think that THIS would be the "Crash" of this game, or what I think my best ability is (haven't written this ahead of time, clearly). But alas, it's still really good. *Tier A. Top-tier, except for the exceptions in S* Stone: IT'S A STONE KIRBY. I LOVE IT. It's a STONE. KIRBY. IT'S AWESOME. Love it. Love love love love yes it's objectively slow but I'M A STONE KIRBY. Stone/Stone (BIG BOI KIRBY): BIG. BOI. KIRBY. Bomb/Cutter (ninja stars): Very, very good. I sometimes enjoyed it, somethings didn't. Very very very good though. Spark/Spark (big boi electricity): I cackle maniacally as I move with a bit of range, stop, and then EVERYTHING DIES HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA. This and the drill are really close, and easily switched. Stone/Needle (drill): Gurren Lagaan aside, nyaooooooooooooooooing through levels is great. You said everything that needs to be said in the video. *Tier A+ for blades. They are not the best, but they are above A, so whatever I wrote this top, middle, category. I stopped caring.* Lightning/Cutter (da lightstaff): Yes, I call it Lightning, not Spark. Personal bias would put it above the flamesword, but this doesn't have the overhead. But it's fun as heck. I think they did a great job with the cutter mixes, *particularly* since I don't like cutter by itself. I wrote this after...fine. Whatever. Inconsistency. Fire/Cutter (da sword): You covered it in the video. It's a bit slow when you're holding it up, so that's...annoying? Honestly, this *should* be in S tier, but I do feel it's a touch down, and I don't want to make an A+ tier. *Tier S. The best* Stone/Cutter (Animals!): The creativity puts it here, and that I love stone so much. And I keep thinking the fish can move underwater. I refuse to verify that. Note that this is NOT a great thing for precision platforming, as you can roll and then die. I...might have tried to do that. Bomb/Fire (Fireworks): Fight me. There is *no one* in the world that dislikes this ability. No. There is no one in the world that this is not *one of their favorite abilities*. It is hilariously fun, doesn't slow you down (it does), has vertical movement, lets you jump through the hoops of that RGB crystal boss. It's awesome. It's perfect. Fire is a great ability. Adding bomb *should* do something cool. It does. Love it. ~~~ I think I missed an ability. Deal with it.
I decided to find the average ranking of each ability and found out that cutter was in first place and acorrording to his tier list, lightning was second!!
I originally thought Dynamite was trash too, but knowing about the helmet now makes it actually ok to use for me
good for clearing the mid stage rooms with a bunch of enemies
@Armando Derival It's pretty bad, but I don't think it's quite the second worst ability in the game.
dynamite is hilarious, if it did more damage to bosses tho, thatd make it my favorite
I sucked at putting the dynamite and I forgot to put the helmet and I took damage.
That's why I don't mix stone + bomb
I know about the helmet and it's still annoying to use. You either have to hit your target directly, and immediately put on the helmet (limiting your movement), or toss it and wait for it's insanely long fuse, then block it with the helmet. All of this just gives you a slow and cumbersome attack pattern all because you have to protect yourself from your own attack. It's nice that it's the best screen clear in the game, but the waiting and the damage make it too annoying for me to want to use often.
Kirby is technically the first character in history to weild a Yellow Lightsaber
Wow... you're right actually...
@@RangerTheWarrior It.. Might not actually be a lightsaber, but instead a beam sword. They're very similar, but beam swords are from Gundam, which is pretty popular in Japan. Of course, it could very well be a reference to both, but I think it's very possible that they felt more inspired by Gundam instead, since Kirby 64 only came out like, 8 months after The Phantom Menace.
@@RangerTheWarrior Batman and Robin used yellow lightsabers in an episode of super Friends
Spaceballs came out in 1987. Did you mean the first character to wield a double-ended yellow lightsaber?
@@carnage0685 I believe for Phantom Menace the teaser trailers having Darth Maul with twin red lightsaber totally inspired Kirby developers to put it in there as it was highly anticipated and hyped to the point there was already games and figures leaks :) as well as juxtaposition with Gundam references yes
For match, that's probably not a towel but instead like the rough area they put on a match box. Kirby lights himself like a match.
The wiki says it's a towel but yeah I think you're right
It’s very similar to Wario’s ability to catch on fire in Wario Land
Its not a matchbox because the striker strip (rough part) on a matchbook is essentially sandpaper and would not bend the way Kirby uses it.
It’s also a towel bc it’s fire+SPARK! Static electricity; there are literally warnings at gas stations to not enter and exit your vehicle while pumping gas bc static electric shocks can ignite gasoline.
@@gameinsane4718 Okay, that does make sense.
It's a tinder sheet. You can find them with camping supplies. A lot of places sell them as lighting paper since the dating website has made it impossible to Google
fun fact: one of the upgrades to needle in forgotten land, clutter needle, is a reference to kirby 64's needle + needle combo, swiss army :)
I'm aware, lol
most of the abillties and upgrades in that game reference 64
Haven't finished Forgotten Land yet, but I'm so glad that was a major through-line for a lot of the variants
I call it Twitter
Edit: I hate Twitter
And Dragon Fire is a reference to Super Fireball
One function I really missed from this game that I don't hear people talking about is the ability to hold the enemies over your head instead of just spit them out. I like how of you're holding a bronto burt it almost acts like a parachute and you'll hover every time you jump and float down. Or if you hold a glunk it will keep shooting upwards and kill enemies above you
Yeah! Dude I love that mechanic so much (my favorite one is Bronto Burt)
I loved gliding with the purple pteradactyl-like creatures.
Yeeeesh the gluuuuuuuuuunk
I actually used to think that Melting Ice Cube was designed in a way that it would always hurt you in exchange for occasionally tickling an enemy in just such a way that it spontaneously combusts
Edit: Also...dynamite is a guilty pleasure of mine, just because the helmet reminds me of the Mets from Mega Man, but I do admit that it’s pretty garbage
Your right... His dynamite hat does kinda look like that, neat
I think it is met’s helmet
Actually, that hat is apparently used in Japanese construction or something. This explains why you see it in a lot of Japanese games, and here it probably fits better here than it did in Mega Man because if you want some demolition you should wear a hard hat to protect your head.
I miss this system of copy abilities. I'd love for truly combining abilities to return instead of the elemental effects on attacks that we got in star allies.
Yeah... I agree... maybe this series is my way of coping with that? XD
Too much work I guess. Imagine all of these abilities getting varied movesets, lol.
A thing I like about Kirby 64 is the more body horror side of the abilities
The funny
Actually, regular Fire is used for regular speedrunning, too. It's really good =P Double Fire is also used a lot, and some Fire combos are used for boss fights. Basically Fire's kinda nasty in this game =P
also I would have subbed but I DO NOT ACCEPT MELTING ICE CUBE SLANDER THAT ABILITY IS HYPE (actually subbed though I enjoyed both Kirby videos! Good stuff.)
Oh geeze another Melting Ice Cube fan... 😒 /j
(Thanks, I appreciate it ^^
Melting ice cube sucks, its hard to damage enemies with, and it doesn't help with anything.
How is this good? You can die so easily with that. 🫤👎
9:13 -- As a child, I always personally called it either "Fire-Bird" or simply "Moltres".
Ooh! Sounds fancy. And I'll be honest, I was the exact same way XD
i still call it fire bird
POKEMON GOTTA CATCH EM ALL
I called it Phoenix I am a HUGE X-Men fan and anything that reminded me of Storm or Phoenix was the sh!t to me 😆
i used to call it phoenix
Kirby canonically wields the chaos zweihander in this game
lmao
Noticing some references in forgotten land. Besides the obvious Swiss Army knife one, the dragon flame abilities fire ball move seems to take inspiration from this games double fire ability and the fridge Kirby is definitely a precursor to mouthful mode
Yeah dude, Forgotten Land has so many K64 references it's insane! No enemies this time though... sadly...
I will never forgive that one barricade in 4-2 which required the Stone/Bomb combo you literally couldn't even get in the level
Litterally the worst shard in that game ong
i love how powerful mega stone feels. the ground quakes as you walk confidentally foreward. i always liked using it in the river stage on aqua star.
Same
I’m gonna agree with you! Refrigerator is the most OP ability. You could probably use this for the entire game!
If Kirby 64 had the True Arena, fridge would be meta
i say the crystal gun is better
So stone is like metal, a heavy, invincible, slow ability that transforms Kirby into a ball. I see those abilities as a W🗿.
Well unlike Metal you can actually transform in and out of the stone form at will; Metal locks you in that state
@@RangerTheWarrior Oh I see. But still if those two abilities where to be in a future game like another forgotten land, they would be great. And the fact that they are different enough with metal always keeping you in your metal form and stone could be more like mega stone where Kirby could pull rocks and cover himself in those rocks, essentially creating a stone mech that can turn into a mess of rocks to roll around.
For match, Kirby can probably rub himself like hair on a balloon to charge up the electric energy and electric can start a fire too
I remember making the double sided lightsaber when I was little and I nearly lost my shit how cool it was
Yep, feel like we were all there, lol
@@RangerTheWarrior I used the plasma lightsaber against HR-H
That's some pretty smooth animation, you're getting better!
Okay,about sword,it could be alongside water,having a shrunken down rtdl moveset,having it with "the jab" midair dash attack and dash attack.
I feel like someone once gave you the public speaking advice of "talk slowly", and then forgot to teach you that talking in a video is different from speaking in person. You could stand to cut out your own pauses to keep a more consistent flow of words whenever you are on the same thought
This game was one of my childhood games as well.
It was also the first Kirby game I ever played
something worth noting on the start of C tier for kirby abilitys swiss army was confirmed to be cluster needle by nintendo themself when they brought the skill in kirby and the forgotten city.
You deserve way more subscribers. Good work on this video!
Heh, thanks, I appreciate it ^^
The Spark/Burning combo isn’t really a Match ability. I think of it as a Static ability due to Kirby rubbing the towel on him and then igniting.
Great video!
This video is so cool! Happy you told me about it!! I love Kirby!
No problem. Kirby is my favorite series of all time, so I'll definitely be posting more videos on it at some point
@@RangerTheWarrior “sometime”
shush RunOut, shush
I agree with the “curler needs jumps” take. I would use that ability so much if it had a jump.
If wheel + stone was a combo
@@the_yelo pretty much
me: I agree with refrigerator ranking at 1st, You are technically immortal since you have unlimited ability uses and it trows food that you can use to heal.
I went for years without realizing you could jump in arrow form...
I feel that, I was there at one point (same with the drill going down)
An ability that gives you free heals while also dealing damage is a pretty damn good ability, especially when it can heal half of your entire health.
17:39 this is when I realized fridge is S tier
Single needle has slightly fewer recoil frames which is why it's my favorite in the game. Besides fridge of course. That one is just silly and broken
You know, if they wanted fire and ice to be useful, they could have turned Kirby into a smoke bomb, spewing a continuous gas in all directions while bouncing off the ground.
Alternatively, it could have been a water gun, or a boiling pot of water that Kirby tips over and spills onto the ground. Heck, it could have even been the cleaning pitch bucket toss
I loved using double lightning in the water level where you fall down for a while. Just hold the power and it'd zap everything on its way down. So satisfying. I also loved using double fire Phoenix 🔥, and the fireworks move were a lot of fun too. The small bird Pitch was what I'd use to let my little brother play.
Stonecutter
I'm surprised that you put flaming arrow in A tier. I never liked how I had to hold the button to make an accurate shot was during my playthrough.
Don't hate you for your opinion tho. I'm also glad you mentioned how op the fire sword is lmao
Yeah no that's completely justified, I just personally find it intuitive
@@RangerTheWarrior Opinions vary i guess lol. Good video either way :)
main points of disagreement here are alligator jaws (my favorite ability for its sheer range and speed), flame bow (i don't see the point in using a shitty little slow-moving ranged weapon when the melee abilities are so massive), animal statues (pitch is kinda fun but he's not worth 20 seconds of spamming B), and electric rock (how the HELL do you control that thing)
I think you're underrating Snowflake quite a bit here: It makes you totally invincible, has fantastic range and has a perpetual hitbox, and is visually stunning and I think fun to use, which hits a lot of the pros you give higher tier abilities. I'd at least put it in the high C's or low B's. Speaking of the Low B's, I can't see bow and arrow as any better then Bomb, which basically has the same utility but gives you far better mobility. There's a few other things I'd change (ice skates i'd put higher, for example: insane mobility and good offensive use and fun flavor/theming) but those are the main things.
Everyone's subject to their opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, Ice Crystal/Snowflake definitely deserves to be placed a bit higher. It's absolutely fantastic at destroying Magman.
The editing is SO good. Great job! Good luck with UA-cam
Thank you!
@@RangerTheWarrior No problem, I just started too :D You're doing amazing, I wish you the best
Double spark, fireworks, and ninja star were always my favs. They're all so broken. My least favorite was fire ice as well because of how disappointing that combo is.
I will never combo fire and ice
Also double spark is actually worse than normal spark in a way: the hitbox is AWFUL
Double bladed electric lightsaber was always my jam.
I used it against HR-H
Very nice and in-depth video!
yeah, fridge is amazing. back in the days, star wars was all the hype so all my friend said that double lightsaber was the best ability... until i showed them fridge and the infinite healing it bring!
TRUE
Genuinely amazing story, what an incredible arc, lmao
I WAS WAITING FOR THE DAMN REFRI FOR THE WHOLE VIDEO HAHA 😂😂
bro I cant even remember some of the abilitys like the darth maul saber BUT DAMN that refri stood with me haha
without a doubt my favorite is the shuriquen bomb because of its speed and that it responds in an instant
I came here after searching up Kirby power up tier list for 64. The fact Ice and Fire weren't at the bottom made me search for a sane person. I'm glad I found one!
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@@RangerTheWarrior It was on Tiermaker and they had the worse ability be dynamite, even had the protection cap on there so that made it more bizarre for me.
I enjoyed using these combos taking out Miracle Matter:
Ice + Rock, Bomb + Cutter, Spark + Cutter, Fire + Cutter, Bomb + Spike and Ice + Spike.
Yeah, all true
Cutter and Needle are basically the main ones here
i wish they would make a new kirby game with the fusion mechanic with the modern abilities. imagine wheel or doctor combinations.
how would the smah ability combine?
@ smash ability + fighter ability = street fighter reference. smash + wheel = mario kart item mechanics. smash + doctor = surgeon ability
I just like how much you can kill enemies with the needle + bomb ability.
Aside from that i just wish it moves faster.
Sharlio here, awesome vid, good editing, still happy fridge is on #1, epic.
This video deserves so much more I love
once i accidentally found the ninja stars in my first playthrough i pretty much didn't use anything else lol. Little sad to see missiles rank so low they were probably the most satisfying combo for me to use.
Yeah... the AI just really pisses me off at times...
Great video 😁
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My best favorite ability is animal statues
I use pitch for speed running
The Copy abilities in Kirby 64 were clearly attempting to streamline the sheer volume that were present in Super Star. Since those abilities weren't well balanced (In most playthroughs of that game: Mirror, Plasma and Hammer run the game. Using anything else is more so a gimmick).
Kirby 64 attempts to balance more of those abilities, by combining them together to create more interesting concepts.
Bomb+Stone - Dynamite is sorta a poor man's version of Crash from the previous games. But it IS reuseable.
Fire+Spark - Kirby isn't rubbing a towel on his head; it's a piece of sandpaper used to quickly build up friction and ignite. Same concept as the side of a matchbox.
Spark+Bomb - This is a carry over from Kirby's Dreamland 3. In that game, Kine+Spark would create a Lightbulb, and it was used for similar puzzles lighting up dark rooms.
Bomb+Bomb - This was actually used in the commercial for Kirby 64. Where a pet shop owner talks about a cat and dog; then describes Kirby as being 'Kirby" as he blows up the wall nearby.
Fire+Fire - This was my thought after trying it out as well. It's fun, but the endlag kills it.
Fire - This is literally just Burning from Kirby's Adventure.
Spark+Spark - It maybe slow; but I love the way Kirby just tap dances across the screen demolishing anything in his way.
Stone+Needle - I actually never knew you could shoot it down. Learn something new every day.
Fire+Needle - Once again, I never knew you could jump while doing this. I never thought of a reason why you would do that lol
Stone+Cutter - I have a personal vendetta against this one, because of that one Crystal Shard. I had never played Dreamland 3 before 64; so I didn't know how the Animal Buddies function; so the riddle of learning how it worked was one of the most random puzzles ever. Still, it's a cool easter egg once you do know.
Bomb+Cutter - Love the concept, and how quick it is. My only issue is at times the hitbox can be a little testy.
Spark+Cutter - Won't deny the idea of Kirby Darth Mauling it up is awesome; but this attack has a bit of a delay before it swings, making you vulnerable to getting hit if you don't time it just right.
Cutter+Fire - I do love this ability, became one of my favs, I almost always use it on King Dedede.
Cutter+Fire and Spark+Cutter - While I do love these abilities design and conceptual wise; my biggest issue with them, is they disable your ability to float. Kirby 64 has a lot of vertical sections; and these abilities are next to useless in these sections, as they leave you vulnerable to dropping off ledges or getting crushed by moving objects.
Frost+Spark - Functionality wise; it's great. Gameplay wise; it devalues all other abilities in the game. If you have a situation where you don't need an ability for a certain situation; Fridge is always optimal.
Great video!
This video was very nostalgic.
Popped off when I realized fridge was 1st
Yes
Getting lost in Nostalgia can lead to someone wasting their life.
@@Alphadog220 ...what?
@@RangerTheWarrior It's true. It happened to my older brother. He felt like he didn't do enough, so he took his own life.
I certainly did see exploding shurikan, lightning sword and fire sword my favourites and the best of the best so i aint complaining. This editing felt really good and the list did feel really accurate but refrigerator objectively best.
The lightning sword is a plasma double lightsaber
Great video, bud! I agree with 99% of it! Including that this game is really good
I never truly appreciated the fridge ability until I went back to the elemental boss and quickly built the fridge power to heal myself since that was the only way to survive in that battle.
Justified
Just a quick question, was this video partially inspired from Wambu's top 10 Kirby 64 abilities. You guys seem to both agree on the same best abilities (also if you haven't seen his top 10 video then I guess its a coincidence that your minds both think alike)
You'd be right XD
Hey, they're still amazing abilities either way, him and I just have similar opinions
turns out a nigh-instant projectile, a stupidly fast melee burst option, and infinite healing are pretty uncontroversially good
In the beta of Kirby 64 one of the sides of the Swiss Army ability was the angel's pitchfork from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
I would like to see evidence of this, sounds interesting
I agree with the top because they are fun and have its nice uses, i like refrigerator more cuz is just hilarious not its actual utility, like yeah maybe a child playing the game for the first time may find infinite health busted (and it is) but when the game is so easy and how unpractical and slow attacking with food is the ability is more for giggles than useful i would say.
Also, i have so say you put Fire very low, maybe is not the most creative ability but its actually the most useful one. It demolishes enemies and makes you go very fast with clever use, one of my problems with this game is how slow Kirby movement is and how combat often ruins tha pace of the game but Fire helps with both of this issues. I actually find very fun replaying the game using mostly Fire and just seing how faster i can beat each level or the entire short game, using Fire multiple times in the air is actually very fun imo.
I usually go by Top 4: So regarding my top 4 combinations: #1. Fireworks. #2. Explosive Ninja Stars #3 Giant Stone #4. Double-Bladed Laser Sword
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Kirby: *There is no one around to help.*
Big good video
Big good comment 👍
My favorites in no particular order: Stone Cutter, Spark Cutter, Bomb Cutter, Spark Needle, Spark Stone, Burning Bomb, Stone Needle
Objectively best in the game: Freeze Spark
I Like Them, I Just Wish They Weren't So Slow: Burning Cutter, Burning Needle, Cutter, Cutter Cutter
Disappointing: Burning Spark (should've been more like Laser or Beam!), Burning Freeze (so much potential for this one)
Ranger: *ranks giant spinney snowflake under Giant Claws because he finds it funner
Wambu: *PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION*
:) funni
@@RangerTheWarrior thank you, it would be worse if it was child wambu, he would have it top the list with no compatition
Splendid video, Ranger the Warrior! Thanks, bud! Could you make a video called "If Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Had A Crossover With Sonic Generations"?
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh idk
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In the future I'd avoid telling us how many powers are in a tier ahead of time. I'd summarize a tier after instead. It's more engaging that way.
Wow, that's actually a good point, thanks! I'll keep that in mind!
super fireball when first activated it looks more like a phenix's wings moving back to charge at something hense so i call it fire phenix
Ok I'm not the only one then XD
The doctor amigo reference
Doctor Amigo sooooooooy el Doctor Amigo
Cutter and fire is sick. Electricity and cutter is too,
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@@RangerTheWarrior yes
I feel like most anything combined with cutter just makes for an awesome ability. Also I like melting ice cube because of just how awful it is. I’ll try to beat bosses with just melting ice cube because it sucks
Oh yeah definitely! Idk why, it's just the case
The “towel” for match is actually a bit of plastic that he rubs on his head to make static electricity
And light himself on fire….
That makes no sense, all he’s gonna do is attract balloons faster than and emo going to hot topic, shots fire
Static electricity is the reason you’re not supposed to get in and out of your vehicle while pumping gas… because BOOM. Static electricity is still electricity, and electricity is hot (ask any tree hit by lightning or any electrician at all)
subbed!! good stuff
Double flame for speed running is Goated
True
All hail our lord and savior refrigerator, may it live on until the end of time (Flaming sword is my second pick.)
Bomb plus cutter is literally the ninja copy ability but with one move
Every Kirby game abilities (each game ranked individually) ranked
That'd be quite the video for sure
Solid breakdown
Keep an eye for spelling mistakes.
Yeah I do that quite often
@@RangerTheWarrior I see
Maybe have someone spellcheck your text before you put it online
@@elliottgaal9774 good idea, thanks
Bottom text:fire ice is F tear change my mind
Ice Skating is the most fun for me
Super Fireball?
I thought it looked like a phoenix.
For a sec, then it just looks like a cone
i'm glad to see rock+thunder, bomb+cutter and fire+bomb very high up, yas
Yes yes, the most gamer of abilities
minuet flaws teehe. Admittedly, typos happen (see below) AND this actually fits into the point you're making, so...yeah. Very nice video, man.
My Tier List, slight modification to Tier Names, sorta sorted within the tier:
*Tier F/I hate these:*
-Fire/Ice (melting ice): Dude, all they had to do is make the ice invulnerable or do damage to enemies, and it'd *still* be awful, but not like...*this* awful. Bottom tier, but not like...superbad awful.
-Stone/Bomb (Dynamite): Everything you said was true on the timing and potential damage to yourself. I *guess* this is kinda-ish this game's Crash ability. Sorta. Ish. Just really, really annoying to use. I was thinking about what ability would have made "Hammer" in this game. Aside from King Dedede obvs, I *think* this is the combo that would make the most sense, allowing a hammer-flip when holding B, slow movement, and explosion to the self if it's held too long. Would also make a mix of two really cool abilities into a non-trash one.
*Tier E/Underrated stuff that I don't like, don't like using, don't want, thus belong above F tier personally, but actually should belong somewhere else because I'm an idiot shut up I don't like fridge it's hard to use*
-Cutter: bleh. Looks weird/cool, but I don't like how long it is, don't like the movement changing. Just...never clicked with me.
-Cutter/Cutter (big boi cutter): So, way better, except it lasts longer, and everything in life is ruined from this.
-Ice/Spark (fridge): OKAY SO. The food is hard to launch, or you're having to drop above something, and it's weird, and I hate it. Except the food is cool as heck ha ha ice, but like. Like. Iunno. Yes it's amzing, but. Like. I never really liked it, and you can't move, and shut up everyone.
*Tier M/M is for movement. These abilities are all kinda-ish the same, and I don't love them, but like...eh*
-Fire/Spark (squeegeeman): It's funny. Kinda cool. Just kinda funny, but the auto-run is a hindrance more than not. But cool for challenges and such of trying to keep running through the level.
-Spark/bomb: issa lightbulb. yay?
-Ice/Bomb (snowman): It's a snowman! Just takes awhile to 'splode.
-Ice/Cutter (skates): Wheeee skates! Since you can't float with this ability (because then there are no skates, and what are you doing you heathen keep the ability going), it's slightly bothersome to use. Still, probably deserves to be a higher tier, but as we say in the old country, deal with it.
-Stone/Ice (curling stone): Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this one *is* fun, but yeah, no jump. Give a jump, and this is like...maybe second tier or so.
-Ice/Ice (big ol' snowball): This technically fits in this tier, but it's super fun. Annoying when it pops early, as noted in the video.
*Tier I/I is for aIming, because A is already taken. These are all aiming moves. I tend to not like them.*
-Bomb: Eh. beh. boo.
-Ice/Spark: This is where the ability *actually should go*, so y'know. But nYEH
-Fire/Needle (arrow): It's like bomb, but YOU CAN JUMP! Which is really funny, but kinda eh.
*Tier N/N is for needle. Ice has a lot of meh abilities for me; needle has a few that are needle, but moreso. And that doesn't bug me. I think it's a well done ability set.*
-Needle: issa needle
-Needle/Needle: issa bigger needle. WAY more fun due to it taking longer, and so you see stuff stuck more. But it *does* lose the anemone look, so...
-Needle/Ice: So pretty!
-Needle/Bomb: You're fat (because gordo in spanish means fat). Definitely the least needle-tier of the group due to movement, but it feels similar enough to me. I'm not a huge fan, but...eh, I already put it where I put it. Too late.
*Tier G/The G is for Glunk, which will be relevant soon. This tier is...not well-formed, but it's like, all the stuff that do something, and fwoom. I like these abilities fairly well, actually.*
-Spark: Yes, you can move in it. I know. But it's still kinda-ish in this tier. Too smol a radius, though. And this tier was briefly the "stay still and do something* tier.
-Spark/Needle (lightning rod): BYANG! You don't move with it, but...who doesn't wanna be Smash Pikachu?
-Fire/Fire (Phoenix Fire thingy): This is about where I'd rank it, but yeah, it doesn't fit *in this tier*. It's awesome, but the unwieldiness is annoying.
Stone/Spark (boulder on a string): It's fun, it's funny, it's really annoying and you can't float, but like...throwing this and it ricocheting a lot is either great or really annoying. Probably deserves to be Tier B or...something, but...eh. I'm lazy now. Or not, me in the future who is putting it where it belongs. Just above the phoenix (well, below in this list form). Sure.
-Needle/Cutter (OMNOMNOM): OMNOMNOMNOM This is rated too low based on sheer omnomnom factor. It's a good enough ability, but it is an *amazing* aesthetic design.
-Burn/Stone (volcano): It's like holding a Glunk over your head, BUT YOU CAN TILT! And I love using Glunk over my head, because that's cool as heck. nyoom nyoom nyoom nyoom
*Tier B/B is for...B tier. 21 abilities down, so we're at a typical B tier level I think*
Ice: I'm not sure where to put Ice, but I really like the ability. It should probably be lower than some other stuff, ish, and as we're nearing the end...I think this is lower than some other stuff, ish.
Fire: Perfect solo ability. Absolutely excellent. There's no situation where fire is *bad* aside from vertical scrolling, which isn't common and also the vast majority of abilities are also bad at. Excellent design, and I want to see what it can mix into. Perfect.
Bomb/Bomb (rockets): It's rockets. SUPER cool, but also a bit meh as you covered in the video. You'd think that THIS would be the "Crash" of this game, or what I think my best ability is (haven't written this ahead of time, clearly). But alas, it's still really good.
*Tier A. Top-tier, except for the exceptions in S*
Stone: IT'S A STONE KIRBY. I LOVE IT. It's a STONE. KIRBY. IT'S AWESOME. Love it. Love love love love yes it's objectively slow but I'M A STONE KIRBY.
Stone/Stone (BIG BOI KIRBY): BIG. BOI. KIRBY.
Bomb/Cutter (ninja stars): Very, very good. I sometimes enjoyed it, somethings didn't. Very very very good though.
Spark/Spark (big boi electricity): I cackle maniacally as I move with a bit of range, stop, and then EVERYTHING DIES HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA. This and the drill are really close, and easily switched.
Stone/Needle (drill): Gurren Lagaan aside, nyaooooooooooooooooing through levels is great. You said everything that needs to be said in the video.
*Tier A+ for blades. They are not the best, but they are above A, so whatever I wrote this top, middle, category. I stopped caring.*
Lightning/Cutter (da lightstaff): Yes, I call it Lightning, not Spark. Personal bias would put it above the flamesword, but this doesn't have the overhead. But it's fun as heck. I think they did a great job with the cutter mixes, *particularly* since I don't like cutter by itself. I wrote this after...fine. Whatever. Inconsistency.
Fire/Cutter (da sword): You covered it in the video. It's a bit slow when you're holding it up, so that's...annoying? Honestly, this *should* be in S tier, but I do feel it's a touch down, and I don't want to make an A+ tier.
*Tier S. The best*
Stone/Cutter (Animals!): The creativity puts it here, and that I love stone so much. And I keep thinking the fish can move underwater. I refuse to verify that. Note that this is NOT a great thing for precision platforming, as you can roll and then die. I...might have tried to do that.
Bomb/Fire (Fireworks): Fight me. There is *no one* in the world that dislikes this ability. No. There is no one in the world that this is not *one of their favorite abilities*. It is hilariously fun, doesn't slow you down (it does), has vertical movement, lets you jump through the hoops of that RGB crystal boss. It's awesome. It's perfect. Fire is a great ability. Adding bomb *should* do something cool. It does. Love it.
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I think I missed an ability. Deal with it.
I decided to find the average ranking of each ability and found out that cutter was in first place and acorrording to his tier list, lightning was second!!
I did end up noticing that too; cutter just combines really well I guess
Light bulb kirby (Bomb + Spark) should have been in F.
I only, respectfully, disagree, because I believe lightbulb is great for easily taking out enemies if used correctly
Man, I'm really surprised by the placement of archer, curling stone, and ice skates. I hate them
Everyone's intitled to their opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Electric rock was my favorite. But i knew damn well fridge would be number 1
i like how most of wambu top 10 are also in your top 10
Well as he would put it:
"They're damn good abilities"
@@RangerTheWarrior did you see the newest top 10 of wambu
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The 2 fire abilities are just burning and burning but big.
I think the best is ribbon/crystal, what do you think?
To me, it's not a copy ability, it's just a visual indicator
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my favorite is fireworks, but the best is fridge because it's just broken.
Basically my opinions about colors. Yellow's my favorite, but imo blue is the best
I always used light saber in my gameplays
Loved it super useful and thought once why can't Kirby be in Star wars? He has everything he needs
Fair point ngl
And all he needs is a twin lightsaber
I think Drill is the olny mix to have 2 (technically 3 if you count shooting it) moves
Great vid, I think the dynamite one is rlly cool tho I'd put it in c or b
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