As an owner of a wood E2 (and J2) I'm glad to hear the Archel sounds almost exactly the same. Because damn does the E2 sound good. And the wood cases are also amazing.
B-roll in this was incredible!! 👀 Great video as always Lachlan! Just wish Geshelli developed some technology to allow impedance matching/compensation for sensitive equipment.
Glad you liked the video! It's hard to balance high impedance cans and low impedance IEMs from the same device. I spoke to Geno about this via email (IIRC) and he said that they are aiming to balance the devices for those with 300 ohm cans like say HD6XX, ZMFs, etc. My understanding is that adding negative gain modes can introduce extra distortion and it would probably introduce extra cost too so they're in a tough spot.
Congratulations to Geshelli labs for making a domestic produced reasonably priced excellent product. I do have to say that the wood cases are DIY looking. I guess I'd be an aluminum case buyer.
I think the wooden cases look amazing - perhaps it's the in-person vs on film thing. Also, different timber choices might make a difference. That said, the aluminium looks brilliant and is likely harder wearing so it's great to have the choice. Either way, it's a great sounding amp
That's just not true, Nick. Anyone telling you these all sound the same either hasn't listened to them or is tricking themselves with confirmation bias by expecting no difference.
Hi! Love your reviews always very complete and in a very asmr tone too 😅❤. Do you think archel 2.5 ou 3 pro would be able to drove fosi audio za3 amps in dual mono mode ? I bought a turntable and im building a setup and having trouble to choose a preamp to connect futur streamer with j2s dac and the turntable with the phono preamp on the other side. Im drowmning. Woumd love to combine wiim pro plus> j2s> archel's> fosi za3 for digital, and dual 1219>mani or ifi phono2>archel's but find it hard to now if i have to go through balanced or if singled ended with 2590 opamp would already rock or not... its just so hard to pick sides and products. Help 😂
The A3 Pro is a lovely preamp for the price. I don't know the Fosi so can't say if it would benefit from XLR input over RCA. If the ZA3 is good, the A3 Pro will deliver noticeable benefits over the 2.5.
@@PassionforSound Thank you! I've been following your reviews for a while. Definitely love your input and reviews. You've persuaded me to go for a Jot 2 to pair with my Arya SE! Be safe, cheers!
Greate review ! Can you please give some advice/opinion on speakers for a room , does the placement of a speaker in a room make you more tired ? I mean if a speaker is on yhe ground or at head hight makes you more tired because of where the speaker is located ? Thx
The room is half the battle. The Polk r200 and r100 are getting a lot of good press. I prefer speakers to headphones, but that could change with a better headphone amp. Dove tailing is not easy not sure why there are so many negative comments.
Speaker placement is definitely important and so is the room shape, size and materials in the room. I'm not currently using traditional speakers though so I'm out of touch with the best advice.
Thanks for your review and your impressions. One question: have you combined the e2/j2 with the dca stealth and do you think they could run them properly?
If you wanted to you could do your own research. Find out the impedance of the headphones. Find out how much power amplifier produces at that impedance. Find out the sensitivity of the headphones. Convert the power gain to dB. Add it onto the headphones sensitivity. Consider if this is loud enough for the music you like at the volume you like listening at.
@@kyron42 did all that, and the answer on paper should be yes. But lots of people in there reviews say that the stealth sounds restricted in some areas if it’s not feed with enough power. But no one gives a suggestion how much is „enough“…
Hi Helios, the Stealth is a flagship grade headphone so I'd generally recommend driving it with better gear. I love the Geshelli products, but they're entry-mid level at best. Spending $4000 or whatever the Stealths cost and then driving them with a $500 source chain will rob them of their potential. IMO you'd be better off with a pair of Aeon Noire to drive with that stack. As for power requirements, there's an ongoing misconception that having way more power leads to better sound, but the reality is that people are comparing different amps with different sonic character and then putting the results down to the single variable of power which is a fallacy. If you have an amp with sufficient power plus ample extra then you have enough (e.g. at least double the power needed for your listening level which should be 80-90dB max for safe listening). Any sonic benefits from one amp to the next if they both meet that criteria have nothing to do with extra power and are just about better synergies between the amp and the headphone.
@@PassionforSound heard Tyler mentioned you @ his video.... think either @ his Atrium review or his interview with Z&B..... Well that's fantastic, looking forward to it in a few days
That was the interview I think. I need to watch that one. My review of the Atriums dropped today and I also have an interview with Z&B dropping tomorrow.
Not sure how many times we need to cover this same ground. Measurements don't tell the whole story. There are things like various types of distortion (some of which rarely get measured), speed of transients and decay, and probably a bunch of other stuff too that we don't understand still about audio perception.
As an owner of a wood E2 (and J2) I'm glad to hear the Archel sounds almost exactly the same. Because damn does the E2 sound good. And the wood cases are also amazing.
Agreed on an counts! I was really pleased that they've made them both so similar that it's just about your connections and nothing else
love the music in the intro.
Glad you like it! 🙂🙂
Great Review👍. I love my J2 and look forward to eventually adding a Geshelli headphone amp. Thank you comparing the Archel and the E2!
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful!
Really appreciate your thoroughness
Glad it's helpful!
B-roll in this was incredible!! 👀 Great video as always Lachlan! Just wish Geshelli developed some technology to allow impedance matching/compensation for sensitive equipment.
Glad you liked the video!
It's hard to balance high impedance cans and low impedance IEMs from the same device. I spoke to Geno about this via email (IIRC) and he said that they are aiming to balance the devices for those with 300 ohm cans like say HD6XX, ZMFs, etc. My understanding is that adding negative gain modes can introduce extra distortion and it would probably introduce extra cost too so they're in a tough spot.
Congratulations to Geshelli labs for making a domestic produced reasonably priced excellent product. I do have to say that the wood cases are DIY looking. I guess I'd be an aluminum case buyer.
I think the wooden cases look amazing - perhaps it's the in-person vs on film thing. Also, different timber choices might make a difference. That said, the aluminium looks brilliant and is likely harder wearing so it's great to have the choice. Either way, it's a great sounding amp
But lack features, power, measurement and the same sound quality for lower price or slightly higher in the competition.
But it sounds better than those other products if you mean Topping / SMSL, etc. (and measures extremely well too I believe)
@@PassionforSound no though if you were to a/b them, sound exactly the same. Maybe the new one is different
That's just not true, Nick. Anyone telling you these all sound the same either hasn't listened to them or is tricking themselves with confirmation bias by expecting no difference.
Wow your mic is doing its job nicely
Glad you like the sound
I was wondering since you diy. Can you try some gabsters diy dacs?
Perhaps, but I'm very busy these days with parenting, work and the channel. I'll look into them...
@@PassionforSound Thank you for considering it.
Better than the Schiit Magni 5/Unity?
I've not compared those. It would be a tough battle, I expect.
Hi! Love your reviews always very complete and in a very asmr tone too 😅❤.
Do you think archel 2.5 ou 3 pro would be able to drove fosi audio za3 amps in dual mono mode ?
I bought a turntable and im building a setup and having trouble to choose a preamp to connect futur streamer with j2s dac and the turntable with the phono preamp on the other side. Im drowmning.
Woumd love to combine wiim pro plus> j2s> archel's> fosi za3 for digital, and dual 1219>mani or ifi phono2>archel's but find it hard to now if i have to go through balanced or if singled ended with 2590 opamp would already rock or not... its just so hard to pick sides and products.
Help 😂
The A3 Pro is a lovely preamp for the price. I don't know the Fosi so can't say if it would benefit from XLR input over RCA. If the ZA3 is good, the A3 Pro will deliver noticeable benefits over the 2.5.
Song in the intro? Loved it!
It's called You Set My Soul on Fire by Sture Zetterberg. I got it from Epidemic Sound (there's a link in the description)
@@PassionforSound Thank you! I've been following your reviews for a while. Definitely love your input and reviews. You've persuaded me to go for a Jot 2 to pair with my Arya SE! Be safe, cheers!
So glad I could help. Enjoy!
Greate review ! Can you please give some advice/opinion on speakers for a room , does the placement of a speaker in a room make you more tired ? I mean if a speaker is on yhe ground or at head hight makes you more tired because of where the speaker is located ? Thx
The room is half the battle. The Polk r200 and r100 are getting a lot of good press. I prefer speakers to headphones, but that could change with a better headphone amp. Dove tailing is not easy not sure why there are so many negative comments.
Speaker placement is definitely important and so is the room shape, size and materials in the room. I'm not currently using traditional speakers though so I'm out of touch with the best advice.
Thanks for your review and your impressions.
One question: have you combined the e2/j2 with the dca stealth and do you think they could run them properly?
If you wanted to you could do your own research. Find out the impedance of the headphones. Find out how much power amplifier produces at that impedance. Find out the sensitivity of the headphones. Convert the power gain to dB. Add it onto the headphones sensitivity. Consider if this is loud enough for the music you like at the volume you like listening at.
@@kyron42 did all that, and the answer on paper should be yes. But lots of people in there reviews say that the stealth sounds restricted in some areas if it’s not feed with enough power. But no one gives a suggestion how much is „enough“…
@@HeliosFaust if you don't mind can you tell me what numbers you got.
@@HeliosFaust also Amir at Audio Science Review reviewed the stealth so he might be a good person to ask.
Hi Helios, the Stealth is a flagship grade headphone so I'd generally recommend driving it with better gear. I love the Geshelli products, but they're entry-mid level at best. Spending $4000 or whatever the Stealths cost and then driving them with a $500 source chain will rob them of their potential. IMO you'd be better off with a pair of Aeon Noire to drive with that stack.
As for power requirements, there's an ongoing misconception that having way more power leads to better sound, but the reality is that people are comparing different amps with different sonic character and then putting the results down to the single variable of power which is a fallacy. If you have an amp with sufficient power plus ample extra then you have enough (e.g. at least double the power needed for your listening level which should be 80-90dB max for safe listening). Any sonic benefits from one amp to the next if they both meet that criteria have nothing to do with extra power and are just about better synergies between the amp and the headphone.
Can anyone comment if this amp is sufficient to power T50/T60 Argons?
Yes, it will do fine with those 🙂
Review burson timekeeper 3i
I'll see what I can arrange
This and a jnog 2 or a hifiman e400?
I hope to answer that question pretty soon... EF400 is inbound
From what I heard their amp lack power to drive hard to drive cans right... odd
How did you volume match? Did you do it scientifically or just use your ears?
April fools surprise...... ZMF Atrium and Verite shootout.... hahaha
Haha. What would make you think that? 😉
@@PassionforSound "Special Premier".... and I think you've done another interview with Zach & Bevin?
Right on all counts! My Atrium review drops April first (no pranks) and the interview will come the day after.
@@PassionforSound heard Tyler mentioned you @ his video.... think either @ his Atrium review or his interview with Z&B.....
Well that's fantastic, looking forward to it in a few days
That was the interview I think. I need to watch that one.
My review of the Atriums dropped today and I also have an interview with Z&B dropping tomorrow.
How can the Asgard 3 be warmer if it has the same frequency response as the others.
Not sure how many times we need to cover this same ground. Measurements don't tell the whole story. There are things like various types of distortion (some of which rarely get measured), speed of transients and decay, and probably a bunch of other stuff too that we don't understand still about audio perception.
@@PassionforSound more likely to be a lack of volume matching and unconscious bias. I'd love to see a controlled blind test.
Explain how does six times gain makes it twice as loud. 6 x gain is 15.5 dB. Twice the loudness is considered to be somewhere between 6 and 10 dB.
Damn for someone who hates the video, you're all over the comments section. Buy your own stuff and do a review yourself
@@bentobox3140 what makes you think I hate the video? What I hate is idiots telling me what to do or what questions not to ask.
@@kyron42 time to grow up G.
@@kyron42 maybe the ivermectin's gotten into your brain. See a doc
@@bentobox3140 how could it get into my brain if I don't take it? If I got chance to see one of the FLCCC doctors that would be great.
It seems like the differences between amps are differences in crosstalk. It's a pity you didn't show crosstalk graphs or crosstalk specs.
I like organic amplifiers. Roundup sucks.
Hate watching and commenting all over the place isn't healthy.