**Buys stock reliable daily** **modifies stock daily with big tyres and cheap lift** **stock daily becomes new project car** **needs new reliable daily** yep i do this too...
Then next month its about the same size as the grave digger and he builds a elevator to help his wife get the kids and groceries into it. She also never has issues with parking ever again
Now I see what you were talking about with tricking the air lift system in my 2000 Suburban. It looks like she has similar arms to that, so I shall definitely try this trick! Thanks Nate!
Good man! Most OEM manufacturers use a switch like this. If it connects from the chassis down to the axle you need to lengthen the rod. If it connects from the chassis up to the suspension you need to shrink it 👍
@@DirtLifestyle Yes sir, just got underneath her and it connects the control arm to the frame so I'll do some research on the lengths (hopefully I may find something lol) and shorten them up like you did. Cant wait to see how it turns out!! Thanks again for the help!
The "sensor" is called a leveling valve....usually. Though that one may be electronic, it doesn't matter...it works the same. When I put bags under my rear end, I will use a leveling valve and a constant air supply. Works great for the semi's I've been driving for 25 years, will work amazing for an overlander. Making some steel arms was a smart idea....runaway air bags is a bad thing. Can't believe they used plastic...no, wait, yes I can. Had a tractor do that....made for an interesting drive to the shop with the drivers jacked up about 12" or more with a 48' cold van hooked up...
Hey If you are looking to keep the LR3 on the road and away from the dealer, have a look at the IID diagnostic tool. Its a BT tool that will run via an app on your phone or tablet to give access to all the diagnostics including the ability to modify your ride height without modification.
Hi Nate, great to see you work on “alternative” 4x4s and take on overlanding. You have a great Chanel and your contents are well explained/very detailed. Would be great to see a budget build for Montero, Triton etc. For low budget or 1st time off roaders. From the UK 👍
What a coincidence! I was just trying to figure out the best way to lengthen the ride height sensor linkage on my Suburban after installing a 6 inch lift kit. You have helped me quite a bit with this video. Thanks!!!
you should make these with adjustable rods (like tiny little adjustable sway bar end-links) that you can adjust to your heart's content and sell them (and then also do it for the 100 series LC).
I own a 99 Lexus LX470 with ahc ( automatic height control). It uses a hydraulic system to raise and lower and also can change the shock rate. But I lifted my Lexus 2 inches to clear 33's pretty much the same idea as you used. I ended up wearing out my CV boots often due to the increased angle of the cv shafts on the front. I built a diff drop to correct this problem. I lowered my diff by 3/4 of a inch. My diff is still above the cross members and my skid plate bolted back on no problem. Just a suggestion... I would look at your cv axle angles.
Actually you are putting more pressure in the bags. Its a force lifting a weight in a closed system Just like a bike tire. 0 psi rim is on the ground, 5 psi rim is slightly off the ground, 35 psi rim is completely off the ground. If it was a open system I.E. a tube with a fan lifting a ball in the tube then yes volume would be the correct answer, but even then air pressure will rise with the increased volume, but not as much. Ideal gas law.
$4.27 budget lift kit? Thats almost like a stolen lift kit haha. Great work Nate, I came here for the Jeep content but love all the other builds as well! Especially the tow pig and J10!
Best thing about this ‘upgrade’ is that it is easily reversed and no need for OEM arms just ‘fab’ some of your own as done here. Definitely looks better with the lift. Those tyres and wheels(and bodywork) will live in harmony from now on.
first time I disagree with you on something. when you put air into your tires, do you add volume or psi ? the answer is both, while stacking more air into the tire you are increasing the psi. same with your air bag... and if the ride is stiffer, of course it has to do with the added air. the real question is, in stock form, does that vehicule able to lift itself to this height ? if the answer is yes, then you are still in spec so no worries about the ride... if the answer is no, then the ride will be stiffer but is it that more stiffer ?. great video, like your way of thinking!
Hi Nate, assume its a V8. Over here we are mostly 2.7l TDV6. I run the Auto S. I have a lost of off road kit on it for a vehicle that is still pricey. Looking forward to see your next mods. Cheer Nick - Off Road Recovery Group FB
Jason from Maryland here I'm the parts manager at an independent Land Rover Restoration and Service shop. Our shop truck is an LR3. Jackn the 'bags were fine, till they fail and the your knobbies are stuffing the the fender...at highway speed...not fun! Cheers!
Great video work! 1) You are 'steeling' lift from articulation, 32" (275/65r18) with 0 lift is easy. 33" with 0.5" lift is taller and will flex MUCH better. 2) Turnbuckles (adjustable) are a better option. I used the manual adjustment to zero out all 4 corners at 175 calibration setting with GAP IIDtool. This gave almost 2" more range of motion before any one wheel goes out-of-range and throws a suspension error.
great channel and work, my GX470 similar in tricking the rear because it also has air computer controlled shocks....would love to see your custom work on an extremely popular, inexpensive and readily avail GX470's...Thank alot...keep it up, very professional in all regards...getting better with time
Just picked up a beautifully kept 05 LR3 for the wife as well, first Rover for our Jeep family...was a little nervous to pull the trigger given land rovers reputation but after having a good look over it, Its all pretty basic systems. Fact is you just wont find a more capable and luxurious daily driver for $5000. And don't stress the haters, no one is watching this for an English lesson.
Pressure will change depending on the geometry of the airbag. My air bags are progressive rate and pressure is based on the taper of the bag, piston shape, height, and load. As the bag lifts, the surface area against the piston decreases, requiring more pressure to hold the same weight as the piston area against the bag decreases. If the bag is linear rate, it is purely volume based and pressure doesn't change much as it is lifted.
every manufacturer has psi rating either on low pressure air bags or high pressure bags. when you inflate a balloon, you are adding volume but the end result is PSI as well. cant be strictly volume based.
Love all your builds man!! I know you’re on the disco kick right now but when are you going to get Back on the low buck diesel truck? 😂😂 I get it, your a busy guy!! Keep on kicking ass brotha!!
Cool trick, but i have to disagree partially on the ruff ride cause. The angle of the A-arm will cause a difference in ride but so will the bag. You are in fact increasing the air pressure in the bag, just like if you have air bags in the back of a truck for hauling more weight, you increase the air pressure. Love the videos, keep it up!
Hey, my son and I love watching your channel. I have a 1999 Dodge Ram van 1500 2wd, I would like to know if you could look into lifting my van. I’d like maybe a body lift and or leveling kit. Thanks
Hey Nate! My experience with Lift Rods is a little hit and miss. I found that the increased angle of the CVs did increase the wear rate and that I had several premature failures as a result (I can't be 100% sure that it was the lift rods, but seems most likely). I also found that when offroad, the extra height in offroad meant that the bag pressure was too high and had gone past the useful maximum for these particular struts. Whilst I gained some lift, I lost wheel articulation which in many ways negated the advantage of the lift. Additionally, with yours being a Discovery 3, you won't have the active roll control sway bar system which works a bit like a sway bay disconnect when offroad, so you'll inherently have less flex than me already! Mine is the L320 Range Rover Sport with ARC. One definite advantage is that you no longer have the 50kph speed limit problem as normal height is now stock offroad height. If I was to fit lift rods again, I would be aiming for a 40mm (1.5") lift and probably only run the rods when I am planning an offroad trip! I now have an LLAMS height controller unit, this has the same advantages as the rods, but can be adjusted at the flick of a switch. There are other systems on the market that do a similar job, but this one is made in Australia by a once man team so I like to support local llams.com.au/ Love your work mate! Cheers for the content.
@@donhappel9566 Nice! Yeah I want to fit the SYA kit to mine, but probably not the full 2.5" drop. A 1.5-2" drop would suit me and the tyre size I would like to run better so might just fab something up myself. RCV is making HD driveshafts for the D3/4 RRS now, though they're outrageously expensive, so not really practical for me. Do you run limit straps with your spacers?
It's lifting it higher by increasing the psi. Unless you were to modify the air bag placement to give it more leverage it is impossible to get more lift without more pressure. I built bagged mini trucks for the longest time. But all air bags function the same regardless of application if you were to put a gauge on your air ride system and do a before and after reading after doing this "trick" you would see that you caused the psi in the bags to increase. The vehicle weight remained the same , air bag position remained the same ,so increase in psi is the only way lift is possible. I enjoy all your videos but what you stated is absolutely incorrect and is against physics
gallamine of course it does, it's a rubber bag. All tow trucks with air bag suspensions work the same way. Flip the switch on the dash and it vents the air. Flip it up and the bags fill with 50psi and its "half way" filled. Put a car on the back it goes to about 80psi while still keeping the flat deck level. If you manually adjust the height control lever, you can take it to full 120psi (operating pressure of the air brake system) and jack the back of the truck up.
Jim Miller the stretch in the bag accounts for the change in psi. Fixed load of vehicle is static psi and variable psi from the spring force of the rubber bag
The bag FLEXES. It is reinforced the same as a tire so it does not STRETCH. The original comment is correct in that the pressure is increasing causing the vehicle to lift. That being said, there is really no danger to the increase in pressure, just need to make sure there are limiting straps of some sort as to not over extend the bags.
@@caseysanguins9490 I just want the correct information out there and the video was incorrect on it. And tires can and do stretch, how else do you think they get on the rim?🤔
With air ride and ifs it doesn't droop for crap anyway when set to off road height and gives a rougher ride anyway since the air bag is fully inflated.
This gives me DIY ideas for my RAM 1500 with the air suspension. Looks like you can buy leveling links for $200 but that sounds more like highway robbery to me.
How was the tire rub on the Lr3 with out the lift? Rip your fender wells out rubbing? I have an Lr4, put 18's on it with k02's 265/65/18 so around a 30.5" tire. I didn't want to go bigger incase i end up having issues with the suspension so at least I can drive out on the bump stops if ever. What's you opinion on that ? Great content btw!!!
Common misconception based on dealer and quality repair shops... I have 2 LR3’s and just changed out an air strut from Atlantic British and it was less than $300. It only took an hour to swap it and did not have to recalibrate or reprogram anything. I did the coil-over conversion on my 05 and it rides amazing but it’s a different car without the air suspension.
@@derek6044 that’s how much they cost when I worked at the shop. We only used quality replacements because we warrantied our work. I can’t remember which brand we used off the top of my head but it was aftermarket and they were quality air ride components.
@@DirtLifestyle alot of shops/enthusiasts like my dad have them and say there great. From 1st hand exp its alot faster easier and better on the back using ove vs jack and stands
Dirt Lifestyle Thanks for the reply. I don’t see myself toggling around with air suspension any time soon, but I’ll do a little more research on how it works. By the way, I might be getting a first gen ford ranger soon. Your builds have certainly given me an idea of what I want to do to it. It won’t look nearly as pretty as anything you’ve done. Great video as always.
What kind of fuel economy does the LR3 get? Between you and TFL I'm looking at one of these to replace my Element for hauling my two Irish Wolfhounds around.
Love to see it! How many miles are on the LR? I've seriously been considering the LR3/LR4 recently. Have you had a chance to take it offroad? How does it do actually wheeling?
Wait, what? I must have missed the video where you somehow transplanted the solid axles off a Disco 2 onto the IFS/IRS Disco 3! Been thinking about doing something similar myself but it doesn't seem like it's possible without modding the D3's chassis. In the UK, at least, it's (basically) illegal chop a vehicle's chassis so I'm looking for a wrecked 110 so I can bolt a D3 body to a 110 chassis. +EDIT+ Oh, hang on. You bolted the WHEELS off the D2 onto the D3. Right ho. Carry on. :-)
there wil be more pressure in the bag... The bags would sit much higher if there was no weight, but the weigth compresses the air to the point where it sits normal, if you put a bit more pressure in it wil sit higher, this is a fact. I build some custom air suspension setups, and the people that want cheap crap go with a pressure meter and a switch to set it to the height. Offcourse thats not the most accurate way because with more weight in it the pressure in the bag increases and the car gets lower. So thats why i build a custom height sensor based air suspension managment as wel. But the fact stil remains that to lift a vehicle on air suspension you do need to increase the pressure in the bag.
Did this LR3 replace the Liberty CRD Diesel? Or do you still have that as well? I was enjoying seeing you turn the much hated liberty into a decent off-roader EDIT: I see your reply on another comment saying the liberty is coming back after the 1-ton build. Love all these killer builds! Keep up the good work!
On my humble opinion ... If you are not afraid of electric/electronic issues, feel free to get one. If you already have one, the electric/electronic issues are the trigger to turn your stock reliable car into a daily challenging project car XD
They do, but you are 'steeling' from any potential articulation. I used to run +2, but wheels would lift ALL-the-time. with a little old-school trimming, I am able to run 33" tires with 0.5" lift. YMMV
**Buys stock reliable daily**
**modifies stock daily with big tyres and cheap lift**
**stock daily becomes new project car**
**needs new reliable daily**
yep i do this too...
Lol
yup next week it will get ton's put under it
Then next month its about the same size as the grave digger and he builds a elevator to help his wife get the kids and groceries into it. She also never has issues with parking ever again
How do you know me so well?
@@jimmysando99 car/truck/tractor/4wd guys are the same the world over... lol
Now I see what you were talking about with tricking the air lift system in my 2000 Suburban. It looks like she has similar arms to that, so I shall definitely try this trick! Thanks Nate!
Good man! Most OEM manufacturers use a switch like this. If it connects from the chassis down to the axle you need to lengthen the rod. If it connects from the chassis up to the suspension you need to shrink it 👍
@@DirtLifestyle Yes sir, just got underneath her and it connects the control arm to the frame so I'll do some research on the lengths (hopefully I may find something lol) and shorten them up like you did. Cant wait to see how it turns out!! Thanks again for the help!
Looks about the same size as the bushings for a level valve on a semi. They make links that are adjustable for height.
Dude, you have 2 Landrovers now! Welcome to the Landy family! Those Disco's are awesome vehicles.
Love your channel,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The "sensor" is called a leveling valve....usually. Though that one may be electronic, it doesn't matter...it works the same.
When I put bags under my rear end, I will use a leveling valve and a constant air supply. Works great for the semi's I've been driving for 25 years, will work amazing for an overlander.
Making some steel arms was a smart idea....runaway air bags is a bad thing. Can't believe they used plastic...no, wait, yes I can. Had a tractor do that....made for an interesting drive to the shop with the drivers jacked up about 12" or more with a 48' cold van hooked up...
I’m enjoying these landrovers making there way into the garage !!!!!!!
Quick, cheap, and effective. This is why i love this channel.
Hey If you are looking to keep the LR3 on the road and away from the dealer, have a look at the IID diagnostic tool. Its a BT tool that will run via an app on your phone or tablet to give access to all the diagnostics including the ability to modify your ride height without modification.
Thanks 👍
I did the same thing using electrical grommets. The grommets do tend to wear out, but are easy to replace.
adding the twist takes overall length out of the piece. i expected the front to sit high and was not disappointed, looks good in the end.
Hi Nate, great to see you work on “alternative” 4x4s and take on overlanding. You have a great Chanel and your contents are well explained/very detailed. Would be great to see a budget build for Montero, Triton etc. For low budget or 1st time off roaders. From the UK 👍
Thanks Nate! So much amazing information on your channel. Proud to be a supporter. Keep the content coming.
Oh My Goodness ... TWO LAND ROVERS?!?! I'll send you the coordinates of the next meeting of the afflicted ;)
The PCRC isnt that far from him ;)
What a coincidence! I was just trying to figure out the best way to lengthen the ride height sensor linkage on my Suburban after installing a 6 inch lift kit. You have helped me quite a bit with this video. Thanks!!!
you should make these with adjustable rods (like tiny little adjustable sway bar end-links) that you can adjust to your heart's content and sell them (and then also do it for the 100 series LC).
That's a really great idea!
@@Buoyant_Thoughts thanks. I don't have many so I'm showing this to my wife.
@@BigSh00tsie Lmao
I think you should practice your carpentry skills,And raise your ceiling to 12 feet and get a two post hoist!!
Looks great. I used an IID tool to program additional lift in my LR3. I have 190k miles on mine and still going strong. Love the LR3.
I love that you are a complete custom diy'er all the time 👊👊👊 keep building brother
Thanks for the support buddy 🤘
that ending clip of the TDI rig was badass
This would also work on a Grand Cherokee or a Ram 1500 with air tide. Cool video. Thanks!
All you have to do is visit your local "Hobby Shop" (R/C Car Shop) and and get some Steering Linkage Parts!
That would work!
I own a 99 Lexus LX470 with ahc ( automatic height control). It uses a hydraulic system to raise and lower and also can change the shock rate. But I lifted my Lexus 2 inches to clear 33's pretty much the same idea as you used. I ended up wearing out my CV boots often due to the increased angle of the cv shafts on the front. I built a diff drop to correct this problem. I lowered my diff by 3/4 of a inch. My diff is still above the cross members and my skid plate bolted back on no problem. Just a suggestion... I would look at your cv axle angles.
Actually you are putting more pressure in the bags. Its a force lifting a weight in a closed system Just like a bike tire. 0 psi rim is on the ground, 5 psi rim is slightly off the ground, 35 psi rim is completely off the ground. If it was a open system I.E. a tube with a fan lifting a ball in the tube then yes volume would be the correct answer, but even then air pressure will rise with the increased volume, but not as much.
Ideal gas law.
I agree, we would set our ride height on bagged trucks off of pressure before all the fancy ride control stuff hit the market.
Awesome video, I love doing little projects like this. Great music and editing too!
Someone’s likening the Land Rovers haha! Rock on man:) God bless
$4.27 budget lift kit? Thats almost like a stolen lift kit haha. Great work Nate, I came here for the Jeep content but love all the other builds as well! Especially the tow pig and J10!
Thanks man!
Awesome 🤘 keep up the good work🔥💪🤘
Thanks!
Loving all this Land Rover content!!!
You should do a video about the coils on this bad boy. And your steering.. I'm going to be putting in a super 60 and 14 bolt.
Thanks for making another great video Nate!
Best thing about this ‘upgrade’ is that it is easily reversed and no need for OEM arms just ‘fab’ some of your own as done here.
Definitely looks better with the lift. Those tyres and wheels(and bodywork) will live in harmony from now on.
first time I disagree with you on something. when you put air into your tires, do you add volume or psi ? the answer is both, while stacking more air into the tire you are increasing the psi. same with your air bag... and if the ride is stiffer, of course it has to do with the added air. the real question is, in stock form, does that vehicule able to lift itself to this height ? if the answer is yes, then you are still in spec so no worries about the ride... if the answer is no, then the ride will be stiffer but is it that more stiffer ?. great video, like your way of thinking!
Hi Nate, assume its a V8. Over here we are mostly 2.7l TDV6. I run the Auto S. I have a lost of off road kit on it for a vehicle that is still pricey.
Looking forward to see your next mods. Cheer Nick - Off Road Recovery Group FB
Appreciating the difference in length
Jason from Maryland here
I'm the parts manager at an independent Land Rover Restoration and Service shop.
Our shop truck is an LR3. Jackn the 'bags were fine, till they fail and the your knobbies are stuffing the the fender...at highway speed...not fun!
Cheers!
Jeepers Delight And that’s why you either use a 265/70-R17 or a add strut spacers and limit straps.
@@Carsongore
The 265s are what's on there now. We just used the Atlantic Britsh coil conversion kit, it's just our shop truck.
Awesome video, you're wrong about the bag pressure not increasing though.
Hi,do you have link for grommets? Also what's the overall length of front and rears you made please
What size tyres did you say they were Nate? I'm going to make those links. Thank you for a great vid.
Great video work! 1) You are 'steeling' lift from articulation, 32" (275/65r18) with 0 lift is easy. 33" with 0.5" lift is taller and will flex MUCH better. 2) Turnbuckles (adjustable) are a better option. I used the manual adjustment to zero out all 4 corners at 175 calibration setting with GAP IIDtool. This gave almost 2" more range of motion before any one wheel goes out-of-range and throws a suspension error.
great channel and work, my GX470 similar in tricking the rear because it also has air computer controlled shocks....would love to see your custom work on an extremely popular, inexpensive and readily avail GX470's...Thank alot...keep it up, very professional in all regards...getting better with time
Just picked up a beautifully kept 05 LR3 for the wife as well, first Rover for our Jeep family...was a little nervous to pull the trigger given land rovers reputation but after having a good look over it, Its all pretty basic systems. Fact is you just wont find a more capable and luxurious daily driver for $5000. And don't stress the haters, no one is watching this for an English lesson.
Pressure will change depending on the geometry of the airbag. My air bags are progressive rate and pressure is based on the taper of the bag, piston shape, height, and load. As the bag lifts, the surface area against the piston decreases, requiring more pressure to hold the same weight as the piston area against the bag decreases. If the bag is linear rate, it is purely volume based and pressure doesn't change much as it is lifted.
every manufacturer has psi rating either on low pressure air bags or high pressure bags. when you inflate a balloon, you are adding volume but the end result is PSI as well. cant be strictly volume based.
Love all your builds man!! I know you’re on the disco kick right now but when are you going to get Back on the low buck diesel truck? 😂😂 I get it, your a busy guy!! Keep on kicking ass brotha!!
Cool trick, but i have to disagree partially on the ruff ride cause. The angle of the A-arm will cause a difference in ride but so will the bag. You are in fact increasing the air pressure in the bag, just like if you have air bags in the back of a truck for hauling more weight, you increase the air pressure. Love the videos, keep it up!
That was quick and dirty bud 🤘🇨🇦
Hi Nate, if I won’t go to 3.0” lift what are the exactly dimensions of the new kit front and back in mm??
Hey, my son and I love watching your channel. I have a 1999 Dodge Ram van 1500 2wd, I would like to know if you could look into lifting my van. I’d like maybe a body lift and or leveling kit. Thanks
Cool tips and I didn’t know that about the Land Rover 💯👍🦅🇺🇸
As a "not a land rover guy" who accidentally became a land rover guy I'm loving all the roverposting.
Hey Nate!
My experience with Lift Rods is a little hit and miss. I found that the increased angle of the CVs did increase the wear rate and that I had several premature failures as a result (I can't be 100% sure that it was the lift rods, but seems most likely). I also found that when offroad, the extra height in offroad meant that the bag pressure was too high and had gone past the useful maximum for these particular struts. Whilst I gained some lift, I lost wheel articulation which in many ways negated the advantage of the lift. Additionally, with yours being a Discovery 3, you won't have the active roll control sway bar system which works a bit like a sway bay disconnect when offroad, so you'll inherently have less flex than me already! Mine is the L320 Range Rover Sport with ARC. One definite advantage is that you no longer have the 50kph speed limit problem as normal height is now stock offroad height. If I was to fit lift rods again, I would be aiming for a 40mm (1.5") lift and probably only run the rods when I am planning an offroad trip! I now have an LLAMS height controller unit, this has the same advantages as the rods, but can be adjusted at the flick of a switch. There are other systems on the market that do a similar job, but this one is made in Australia by a once man team so I like to support local llams.com.au/
Love your work mate! Cheers for the content.
@@donhappel9566 Nice! Yeah I want to fit the SYA kit to mine, but probably not the full 2.5" drop. A 1.5-2" drop would suit me and the tyre size I would like to run better so might just fab something up myself. RCV is making HD driveshafts for the D3/4 RRS now, though they're outrageously expensive, so not really practical for me. Do you run limit straps with your spacers?
Also, when running the SYA and lift rods, have you had the camber adjusted?
That work on all air bags suspension??? I have a Chevy suburban with that type of suspension on the rear
Hi fella,, wanting to put 275/60/20 cooper zeon ltz tyres on my overfinch alloys for discovery 3...would I need to change the lift rods..?..cheers.
You might want to loosen the control arm bolts and then re torque. Ur going to wear the control arm bushings prematurely. Looks great 👍
You are dead right! I had to replace my rear control arms because of this! The bolts were rusted solid so had to cut through it!
2videos in a few days...love it 👊🏻👊🏻. You are a British v8 guy now 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Buick v-8. They took the Buick 215 and used it forever with slight modifications.
@@johnparker3725 the LR3 V8 is not based on the Buick. Only the Disco 2 one is.
Great vid! Great explanation!
Face it Nate, you’re a genius.
Thanks for another great video!
Hey Nate what do you think of the new Bronco?
Cool video bud , what size wheels and tyres are they and what type of wheels if you don't mind me asking 👍
It's lifting it higher by increasing the psi. Unless you were to modify the air bag placement to give it more leverage it is impossible to get more lift without more pressure. I built bagged mini trucks for the longest time. But all air bags function the same regardless of application if you were to put a gauge on your air ride system and do a before and after reading after doing this "trick" you would see that you caused the psi in the bags to increase. The vehicle weight remained the same , air bag position remained the same ,so increase in psi is the only way lift is possible. I enjoy all your videos but what you stated is absolutely incorrect and is against physics
Does the bag stretch?
gallamine of course it does, it's a rubber bag. All tow trucks with air bag suspensions work the same way. Flip the switch on the dash and it vents the air. Flip it up and the bags fill with 50psi and its "half way" filled. Put a car on the back it goes to about 80psi while still keeping the flat deck level. If you manually adjust the height control lever, you can take it to full 120psi (operating pressure of the air brake system) and jack the back of the truck up.
Jim Miller the stretch in the bag accounts for the change in psi. Fixed load of vehicle is static psi and variable psi from the spring force of the rubber bag
The bag FLEXES. It is reinforced the same as a tire so it does not STRETCH. The original comment is correct in that the pressure is increasing causing the vehicle to lift. That being said, there is really no danger to the increase in pressure, just need to make sure there are limiting straps of some sort as to not over extend the bags.
@@caseysanguins9490 I just want the correct information out there and the video was incorrect on it. And tires can and do stretch, how else do you think they get on the rim?🤔
Ride hydthe? Killing me smalls
After the lift you need an alignment front and back dont forget
When’s the liberty coming back
After the 1 ton swap. Had to get my wife a new ride so I could work on the Liberty without holding her up 👍
@@DirtLifestyle whew... glad to hear that. I thought that you might have traded it in for her new ride.
thanks for the question I am here in the comments section looking for this answer
What is the belly height on your TJ? It's super capable and would love to know the comparison between it and my own
Cheapest and easiest lift kit ever! Just wondering what happens when one of those 4 switches that control the height fails. Nice video as usual.
Nate: "Your A-Arms will be sloped"
Me, looking at my A-arms: "naahhh it'll be fine"
all kidding aside, your down travel is gonna suck.
It's ifs,/irs. The down travel already sucks
With air ride and ifs it doesn't droop for crap anyway when set to off road height and gives a rougher ride anyway since the air bag is fully inflated.
This gives me DIY ideas for my RAM 1500 with the air suspension. Looks like you can buy leveling links for $200 but that sounds more like highway robbery to me.
Can you still get a good alignment with factory adjustment, just curious?
I'm getting this LR3 realigned this week. Not alway neccessary but an important step in my opinion. Great question 👍
so did the jeep liberty get sold or are you still planning on finishing it ?
lr3 hack. nice, cheap, and easy
Love this channel I have learned a lot about axles which I need to know we own a 2016 jku
How was the tire rub on the Lr3 with out the lift? Rip your fender wells out rubbing?
I have an Lr4, put 18's on it with k02's 265/65/18 so around a 30.5" tire. I didn't want to go bigger incase i end up having issues with the suspension so at least I can drive out on the bump stops if ever. What's you opinion on that ?
Great content btw!!!
Well done Nate. Do you think the camber will be affected at all?
The air ride on the rovers are great until they break or leak. Those are springs are $1500/piece aftermarket
Common misconception based on dealer and quality repair shops... I have 2 LR3’s and just changed out an air strut from Atlantic British and it was less than $300. It only took an hour to swap it and did not have to recalibrate or reprogram anything. I did the coil-over conversion on my 05 and it rides amazing but it’s a different car without the air suspension.
Chad Street I used work on these and did compressors and sir struts all the time so I’m very familiar with the repair cost.
@@adventure406 Then why are you claiming they are $1500 each? Just ordered one today and there are many choices all between $3-400 Canadian pesos
@@derek6044 that’s how much they cost when I worked at the shop. We only used quality replacements because we warrantied our work. I can’t remember which brand we used off the top of my head but it was aftermarket and they were quality air ride components.
Super awesome!
Hi Nate, doesn’t this effect the camber angle a little ?
How would you do something like this to a 1996 land rover discovery 2?
Good stuff man
Been watching the channel for a little while now, just curious if you went to any kind of mechanics school?
💫" Your ah GOOD Explanationer"🍎
what about gear ratio n speedo?
Are you/would would you ever get a lift (like benpack not suspensions) my dad has one it it makes work a lot nicer/easier
I've never heard of benpack so im not sure 👍
@@DirtLifestyle alot of shops/enthusiasts like my dad have them and say there great. From 1st hand exp its alot faster easier and better on the back using ove vs jack and stands
I guess I'm used to your creativity I was expecting you build a tricked arm with collapsible 10mm center for on/off road use 😁
Do you have to worry about suspension travel on this now? Just curious.
Same travel. Nothing changed but ride height. It's around 2" farther down the arc but the same exact travel. 👍
Dirt Lifestyle Thanks for the reply. I don’t see myself toggling around with air suspension any time soon, but I’ll do a little more research on how it works. By the way, I might be getting a first gen ford ranger soon. Your builds have certainly given me an idea of what I want to do to it. It won’t look nearly as pretty as anything you’ve done. Great video as always.
What kind of fuel economy does the LR3 get? Between you and TFL I'm looking at one of these to replace my Element for hauling my two Irish Wolfhounds around.
Not sure yet. Its a small v8 but a big suv. My guess would be 14mpg but I won't have real data until we finish our first tank 👍
Rumblestrip.NET we get mid to high teens in ours, sometimes 20s on the highway. Works great for our Great Danes
@@MorganNewlon that is great to know, thank you!
Don Happel Mine is stock with copper Zeons,
So you should be able to lower it as well. I can't recall if my Range Rover lowered while driving though.
@@donhappel9566 I was thinking highway.
My 2016 RR Sport does it automatically at 50 mph.
Love to see it! How many miles are on the LR? I've seriously been considering the LR3/LR4 recently. Have you had a chance to take it offroad? How does it do actually wheeling?
Might pay to loosen the control arm bush bolts then retighten them, so you don’t tear the rubbers.
Wait, what?
I must have missed the video where you somehow transplanted the solid axles off a Disco 2 onto the IFS/IRS Disco 3!
Been thinking about doing something similar myself but it doesn't seem like it's possible without modding the D3's chassis.
In the UK, at least, it's (basically) illegal chop a vehicle's chassis so I'm looking for a wrecked 110 so I can bolt a D3 body to a 110 chassis.
+EDIT+
Oh, hang on. You bolted the WHEELS off the D2 onto the D3.
Right ho.
Carry on. :-)
there wil be more pressure in the bag... The bags would sit much higher if there was no weight, but the weigth compresses the air to the point where it sits normal, if you put a bit more pressure in it wil sit higher, this is a fact. I build some custom air suspension setups, and the people that want cheap crap go with a pressure meter and a switch to set it to the height. Offcourse thats not the most accurate way because with more weight in it the pressure in the bag increases and the car gets lower. So thats why i build a custom height sensor based air suspension managment as wel. But the fact stil remains that to lift a vehicle on air suspension you do need to increase the pressure in the bag.
Did this LR3 replace the Liberty CRD Diesel? Or do you still have that as well?
I was enjoying seeing you turn the much hated liberty into a decent off-roader
EDIT: I see your reply on another comment saying the liberty is coming back after the 1-ton build. Love all these killer builds! Keep up the good work!
You make me want to get a Land rover just it install the easiest ever lift kit.
Lol
On my humble opinion ... If you are not afraid of electric/electronic issues, feel free to get one. If you already have one, the electric/electronic issues are the trigger to turn your stock reliable car into a daily challenging project car XD
Is there enough room for multiple holes for adjustable ride height? Great video as usual
@@donhappel9566 Good to know, Thanks!
I would just use RC truck turn buckles with ends.
Im suprised the stock bags have that much adjustment in them.
They do, but you are 'steeling' from any potential articulation. I used to run +2, but wheels would lift ALL-the-time. with a little old-school trimming, I am able to run 33" tires with 0.5" lift. YMMV
In dodge trucks with air suspension similar is possible it’s just more in depth
You on the east side Nate?
Wow! I restore Tonka Toys you do big cars 🛠🎬
Very cool!
@@DirtLifestyle Thank you!
Tire size, rim and width you're ridding please.
285 70 r17 roughly a 32" 👍
Do you still have the JEEP KJ?
Yup, now I can mod it 👍
Dirt Lifestyle awesome to hear that! I have one so looking forward to those mods
2 days later and another video? My guy. Does this mean you guys ditched the liberty or whatever that little diesel jeep was?