The Greco-Turkish War & The Turkish War Of Independence - First Phase 1919 I THE GREAT WAR 1920
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The Ottoman Empire was among the losing powers of World War 1 and left a power vacuum after the armistice of Mudros. The Great Powers had already made plans for the territory beforehand and now Greece had ambitions to take over the parts of Turkey where Greeks lived.
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Basically 1918-1923 timeline
@@mckanow did you just answered to your own comment? And even liked it?
@@NickariusSN nah someone said something about a timeline and i replied he then deleted his comment probably
@@mckanow oh ok then lol
Support Turkey from Kashmir
Comments:
5% *Nationalists*
10% *Other Comments*
85% *People Talking About Nationalists*
Keep your bland communist sentiments.
So does your comment come under the 10% or the 85%?
@@benholroyd5221 Put you head in the pidgon hole and find out.
Mad and Bad
Ben Holroyd this is that half of the 10% that complains about the people complaining about the nationalists
Just a note to fellow Greeks, who are reading this. I am a Turk, who has been to many parts of the world including Greece. I have never seen any other nation this similar to us. I've wished the things did not happen this way. We must learn from our history, BUT not to hate each other. Instead let us focus on our vast similarities rather than small differences and promote fraternity, so that those things never happen again.
How can you be Greek if you are Turk? The Turks colonized the Greeks. You are colonizer of Greeks, Turk.
@@liteney As a Greek Cypriot he was trying to be positive so why can’t you be?
@@angelind1sguise Positive? He was attempting to down play the fact that Turks not only colonized Greeks but committed genocide against them.
@@angelind1sguise You kill people, steal their land, than call yourself by their name? No...
@@liteney it is utterly infantilistic when your army gets buttkicked and you cry 'gebocide'. We should have thrown your soldiers flowers rather than drowning them I guess. That's greek understanding how things work eh?
As an Orthodox Christian I am overjoyed to see the comments section not full of hate and violence. I was reluctant to even look but I am glad I did, and to the Great war, wonderful video as always.
Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Mexican friend.
The only non toxic comment on this thread
@@charlesnorris9506 well I try not to be. :)
as a mexican i agree with a mexican Kaiser
Hi
@@adventurekarma thanks
Treaty of Sevres: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Mustafa Kemal: Hold my raki
Well said...Kemal threw ma grandpa to the sea....thats war my Greek fellas...we won...and then we lost...no hard feelings..
@Chewbacca Tea was not popular during this era. Turkish coffee was popular and you can see ataturk drinking turkish coffee during battle of sakarya :D
@Chewbacca He died because of alcohol so it wasn't a çay
@Caravanserai of Life you mean he was busy commiting a genocide.
With all due respect, Ataturk was a heavy drinker. That is not to say he was alcoholic but due to his unending efforts to transform a nation. If I were him, I would've died of siroris well before the age of 57.
Last year I was in Jerusalem. And I was hiking on the mountains outside of Jerusalem, I remember seeing an ottoman barracks it was amazing. Just seeing how ancient it was and how it was set up all out of rocks and stones
I went through an ottoman fort in Greece and yeah, it’s surreal. Strange but also impressive how such an old empire lasted into the 20th century.
oh Jerusalem has so many meaning starting from summers, and has been a very popular place since then. i had tour guided those places it was absolute historical moment even though i am atheist
03:30 The Allies' Eastern Question
06:45 The Greeks Come In
09:13 Trouble with the Italians
11:17 The Greeks Land at Smyrna
12:19 Administrative Restructuring of Izmir
14:00 Violence of Aydin
15:15 Introducing Mustafa Kemal Attaturk
16:49 Laying the Path for Liberation
19:40 The Allies Stall
21:31 The Izmir Investigative Reports
22:50 Greece Despaires, Turkey Grows in Strength
24:06 Turkish Nationalist Win the Parliament
24:25 Battling the French
24:44 Turkey 1, Allies 0
Başarılı 🤣👍🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Ottoman Empire: We surrender!
Turkey: Sike!
Siktir! 🇹🇷❤️
It was an annexation of Anatolia and everybody know it so dont judge anyone.
@@nuiaslou18 It was justifiable. After all, the Turks had been trying to conquer Europe for centuries from Anatolia, and they were severely persecuting/exterminating the Christians there.
Keith Kevelson exterminating the Christians? You sure man ? You do know that when Turks invaded somewhere they would allow the people in that place to live their lives however they wanted right ? Their cultures,languages etc Turks wouldnt get involved in that they could live freely they wanted to keep their culture and language ? They could they didnt wanna do that ? They could do that too
TLDR nah man Christians or anyone from any religion wasnt killed they could live however they wanted to live
@@mehmetalierguven8804 nice propaganda
"Wilson could think of nothing the people of the United States would be less inclined to accept than military responsibility in Asia"
If only that sentiment of the people had continued.
@@calc1657 It did. The government stopped listening.
Which is exactly why an American mandate would have been a solution if it had been possible.
Love the way the yanks show up late for the war, only actually having been involved in combat for about the last 6 months yet had the arrogance to make demands about who should rule what.
@@DeepseaSteve When America kept the Allies afloat with supplies and most importantly, money long before 1917...
Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Brazilian friend.
Bless u brotha from TURKEY
Bedirhan Tigin Portekizce konuşuyorlar (Brezilya Portekizcesi)
Bilgilendireyim dedim
@Bedirhan Tigin hey, how are u? And I speak Portuguese🙂
Hello greek American here!
Allies:Alright let's invade Turkey
Atatürk: *Im about the end this man whole career*
Wel,its starts all over again.
With a nice Constantonople as victory.
Turkey begs to be kicket out of,,Turkey
This man is Winston Churchill he said that
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv xD
@@mehmeteking not entirely wrong. churchill was the first lord of admiralty during dardanelles campaign and was held responsible of the failure. He resigned from the office in nov. 15 and joined the army. Ataturk was the hero of the land battles of dardanelles.
also lloyd george lost power after chanak crisis in 1922 which occured after Ataturk forced british forces out of bosphorus and dardanelles. during the crisis churchill was secretary of state for colonies and was undergoing an operation of apendicitis. churchill, with lloyd george were the ones calling for the war in chanak crisis and they paid the price. after the crisis churchill stated that he was "without an office, without a seat, without a party, and without an appendix". so, Ataturk nearly ended his political career not once, but twice.
Ataturk is a genius leader!
And fortunately the Greeks and Turks never clashed again, held no grudges and became best mates.
Hahah the irony is strong with this one
Exactly!
Yeah just like the Chinese and Taiwanese and India and Pakistan!
@Gollum There are people on both sides who havent moved on.
@Gollum its actually the exact opposite though, you can see it from the anti Greek sentiment in Turkey.
THE VIDEO ENDS WHEN THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE IS ABOUT TO START
Yeah, it will probably go on next year
The video is called Greco-Turkish war, what do you expect?
@@Nikonomicon ITS TITLED GRECO-TURKISH WAR AND THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE
@miltos 5 they pretend it was about independence, when it was just a war to maintain their grip in Anatolia and persecute minorities as they've always done. They respect no treaty, not Lausagne, nothing. Remember 1955 and 1974.
@miltos 5 turks come here in 1071 after battle of manzikert turkish seljuks won the battle and conquer anatolia this lands just because the Greeks have been here for a long time than the Turks, they don't make this land
"Peace at home peace in the world" -Commander-in-Chief Veteran Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
We didn't say we didn't know how to fight, we said we didn't want war🤗
Ataturk said, 'I should have killed all the Greeks. I regretted leaving even one Greek alive'. He was just a cold blooded butcher.
@@bentspoon6218 yeah right lol. Any source?
@@bentspoon6218 He was known as a Pacifist and non nationalist by everyone he was not your default ultra nationalist guy. he was more like an unifier type nationalist. How could he say a thing like that? Also ataturk was from Thessaloniki i cant imagine him saying "i should have killed all the people from my birthplace." Lmao
@@batsukan5934 There are people still alive to whom he said that. He wanted do exterminate EVERY Greek in Turkey, and yes, he DID say exactly that. He may have been born in Greece, but he hated the Greeks with all his barbaric soul.
@@bentspoon6218 how do you know it is true which site do you search it
Before covid we had gone on holiday to Greece twice each year, for 6 years. All we saw from Greek people was love and respect. All the best to Greece from Turkey.
Your government doesn't look at it like this.. bullying fake news and threatens war.. Why?
@@kossllan6144 yes, there are a lot of problems between the two countries, but you don't need to see us as a bogeyman.
@@kossllan6144 You seem to have a very warped view on what is happening between these two nations.
If you keep poking someone in the eye, they will react. So the real question is why Greece feels it is in their strategic interest to poke their larger neighbor in the eye, what are they hoping to achieve aside from causing a reaction?
@@williamdavis9562 exactly that's the call bullying.. and don't look more than you are.. maybe you are Goliath but remember I am the David.??!!. so don't pock my eyes and kick my legs..
Agean sea is Greek.. if you touch Greece you will be Dust in the water. Got it?
@@williamdavis9562 Like how the Turkish air force keeps violating Greek and Cypriot territorial waters and airspace? And openly, from their own government, calling for the annexation of Greek islands to Turkey amidst all this?
Thanks for making such great videos. I’ve been showing your stuff for the last my 6 years in my classroom. Y’all are great.
That is not War of Independence
it is *"War of National Liberation"*
Cause to be a war of independence, Turkish people must have been colonized and lost it's government.
But it is not like that.
*War of National Liberation*
Please correct the title, Almost all English sources about this writes it wrong.
@Ömer Faruk Bıyıklı ESG Den geldiğimizi belli edelim. adgsdggdsd
@@denizdemir5457 aynen
yorumu görenler, ne kadar beğeni olursa üste çıkar; o kadar fazla kişi görür belki onlar da beğenir
siz de buna benzer yorumlardan atabilirsiniz ayrıca
National liberation more like second conquest the Turks after all came from Mongolia and turkey was known as Anatolia until Turkish exploitation of Byzantine weakness after decades of exhausting war this is just another conquest
Osmanlı'dan ayrılarak yeni bir devlet kurduğumuz için bağımsızlık savaşı deniyor.
Thank you very much for your effort and labor. We learn about this period of history thoroughly in Turkey. But still, this was quite an interesting and informative episode for me. I hope you cover 1920-23 in an other episode soon.
Thank you, I appreciate that. We will do our best to cover the war as it develops in the coming years.
You dont learn anything in Turkey. You are in darkness basically. If any Turk tries to have a discussion with any history lover in the world it usually ends with denial.
So glad to see you guys on nebula. Its a great platform and hope it helps the channel going forward.
we're very excited to be there
The great war did not end in 1918 it ended in 1945. The interwar years were a intermission.
More like the incoherent and disorganized 2nd act of a 3 act show.
The Great War didn't end until 1991, though most of the time was spent pointing big shooty explodey thingies at the enemy, either the west or east, depending on your side..
@chris jones yes, you are correct, from thisbpoint on, the war on terror and the war on drugs are both now an official extension of the great war
Well then the Great War lasts forever
@@randomgamer3964 yaaaaaaaaaay were fucked
Wait... Where is the rest of this, where is the actual war of independence?
bölüm bölüm yapıyolar hocam
@@onlinekurtu anladım teşekkürler, devamını bekliyoruz o zaman.
They follow the events month by month, so they'll be talking about the great battles in 1921 and 1922 in 2021 and 2022. They don't jump ahead. If you want to see the whole war discussed, Between 2 Wars did an excellent episode covering the whole war and it's aftermath.
In Turkey, we do not call it "War of Independence" as we were independent at that time. We call it "War of Survival"
More like liberation.
orjinal ismi "İstiklal harbi" istiklal bağımsızlık demek. Bana göre bu ismin verilmesinin sebebi de Türk halkının Osmanlı hanedanının boyunduruğundan çıkıp, bağımsız bir cumhuriyet kurulması. Bu arada Kurtuluş'un birebir İngilizce karşılığı "salvation"'dır tabi burda kurtuluşu hangi bağlamda kullandığına göre farklı bir kelime de kullanılabilir. Yabancı kaynaklarda Kurtuluş Savaşı, "Greco-Turkish war" olarak geçer
@@Geckotr Cidadi Milli, yeni adiyla milli mucadele.
My great grandfather ,Pete Christophus, came here to America in the early 1920s as a stowaway on a trade ship. I didn't know about this history until today. I now understand what he was going through.
watch the film America America by Elia Kazan
Thank you so much for this well researched and balanced content. I am always on the lookout for non-jingoistic, digestible, English-language content on this subject and it is hard to come by.
And sadly enough there are still Greeks who believe in the Megali Idea and Turks who want to revive the Ottoman Empire.
Most of them are 11 years old. Because it's social media, the numbers seem a lot, but it's not. Neither the people of Greece nor the Turkish people want war and not hate each other. Such videos also serve as provocative.
@@oboi650 You'd be surprised what percentage of the population in both nations are thinking war with their neighbor is a great idea. Most nations have their fair share of idiots. Look at your youtube name for god's sake. America won't be spared this fate either.
@@williamdavis9562 what are you talking about?As long as you're hostile to us, we'll do the same.
And sadly enough there are still turks who hate greece for no reason
@@oboi650 who are yoi talking about?
This video is written astoundingly well. A very difficult, multi-layered subject to handle in such a short lesson, which these guys have done excellently. Obviously now subscribed.
Kudos, Jesse Alexander! With each episode, I like you more and more.
Thanks!
*Count Dooku voice*
I've been looking forward to this
Lol
Clear, Concise, Correct and well delivered
Very interesting! So eager for the next episode.
this was amazing - so interesting. When can you see part two?
What a mess.
Mad and bad
Mess?? This is just the calm before the storm!! Due soon after the Greek army started marching towards east, hundreds of kms deep inside Turkish majority Anatolia and Turkish revolutionaries started attacking every foreign force from the French to Brits and Greeks expect Italians alone who acted smart and left the chat peacefully :))
Caused by the West
@@ggoddkkiller1342 I didnt understood your text, are you speaking about a future or the past?
@@nomineterrameareligionis4021 Past. This video is only the beginning of the war of independence and still a lot of important information is missing(one example: Kazım Karabekir Pasha(one of the most important general in ottoman at those days) sent to arrest the Mustafa Kemal Pasha with his army by ottoman government but then join his side. But in the video they just say he join to the Kemal Pasha's side. Which I found this important to understand the situation.) And the person who open fire to greek forces is the Osman Nevres as known as Hasan Tahsin(writer, jornalist) was the national symbol. How can they say it was unkown(you can litteraly find this information by googling* the "who open the first fire to greek army at Turkey's War of Independence" or short version of this ).
P.s: No disrespect for the work they have done to create this video of course.
Outstanding work, you guys are so amazing and how you keep the quality on such a high level, I am happy that I support you, money well spent!
Side note: We do not call the name of the war "War of Independence" but "War of Liberation". This name is also most fitting since Turkey has always been independent.
Who is you? Because Fahri Belen calls it Kuturlus Savasi, but Cevdet Kerim İncedayı calls it Istikal Harbi. Considering Incedayi wrote the first one volume military history of the war in Turkish, here is the first military historian of the war using a term you claim no one uses (by the way Incedayi actually fought in the war)
@@konstantinostravlos210 But that's the name we use today, Kurtuluş means Liberation.
@@95bekirable sure, but considering I gave them Incedayi and Belen as sources, they used the term those used (I mean they both actually fought in the war)
@@konstantinostravlos210 Which name do you think is the most fitting?
@@95bekirable for the Turkish perspective or for the whole interrelated story. For Turkish I think War of National Formation is good. It points out that the war was not just about independence, but also forming a new nation. But in general I would call all of the wars of 1919-1923 as Wars of Anatolian Succession. They were interrelated but not per se one thing (there was no coordination between the Greek, Armenian and French war efforts). In this sense it is similar to the wars that resulted form the fall of the Russian Empire. Do you treat the Polish-Soviet War as part of the Russian Civil War, or as a distinct conflict?
My favourite channel. Two thumbs up on a hallmark video. You managed to condense so much information on a less known part of the World War and yet explain so much.
Adding Greek and Turkish subtitles would be really helpful, thank you
someone has to do them.
15:25 "Ottoman general Mustaf Kemal" (Ataturk)
He had actually resigned his commission. (He had been outlawed by the Sultan)
It was a brave move, and he wondered whether the troops would continue to obey him in civilian clothes.
1920
16 march occupation of Constantinople by allies
11 may Kemal condemned to death by sultan's government
22 June Greek army advances into Anatolia
1921
6-10 Jan Greek advance checked at battle of Ionunu
P.S. this is not a criticism, just additional info.
This series is a fantastic overview of the Great War
Amazing episode. Very well presented
No doubt the best video on this specific topic. Great work!
I could listen to Jesse read a phonebook. Fortunately this channel didn't go the audio phonebook route and instead chose to provide us with invaluable and amazing lessons on *our* history.
We could always branch out into phonebook-based ASMR...
Love both Turkey and Greece, peace brothers! from Russia!!
Tamam 🇹🇷🥰
@@caner2779 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Конечно
great channel, great videos, thank you!
always well research and presented very well love this channel keep going
*Greetings and Much Love From Turkey To Greece* 🇹🇷❤🇬🇷
@koksal ceylan i hope this comment is joke . Otherwise it is too sad for the earth that you still produce carbon dioxide. What a shame for Turkish Nation
koksal ceylan 😂😂😂 idiot barbarian on horseback😂😂😂
@koksal ceylan savaşı zaten onlar kaybetti :) İşin keyfini biz çıkarıyoruz bırakın dostsansınlar
Zoruna gidenin borusuna gitsin
Sonuna kadar barbariz ulan kasinanin anasini sikeriz
Same to you my friend!
Can’t wait for soviet-polish war videos which I assume will be coming in the next few months
yes!
Due to traditional hostilities between Greeks and Turks, this topic is a difficult one to tell. And your two advisors seem to have at least Greek roots if not citizens of Greece. Still, as a Turk I did not feel insulted and found the video objective when I watched the video. I even had the joy of learning new things.
I must make a point though. I am not a historian. I am reading and watching history as a hobby. Hence, my opinion may not be important :)
Thanks for your comment, Ahmet. Dr. Travlos is Greek but works in Turkey and, most importantly, is a professional academic. In any case, I did the research and writing, and he gave some advice only, so the responsibility for the episode is mine. I am glad that you liked it, and my efforts at providing a balanced view of the war up until February 1920 were visible!
@@jessealexander2695 I also enjoyed it. Very thorough and concise. And BALANCED!
Everyone's opinion is important ! Greetings from Greece.
The truth is both sides made mistakes against one another on that campaign.We did so many horrible things to each other, imagine what we could have achieved if united. Peace from Greece and stay away from the fanatics.
@@jessealexander2695 Dr. Travlos is a great friend of mine, we always play historical wargames and he is a great, fun guy.
i dont know why everyone hates on greek and turkish nationalists fighting, i say let it continue, it's very entertaining
we have a saying here: "this could have been considered as an entertaining country if we were not living in it."
@pēdro ' cool story bro but as a person living on a small island on the other side of the continent it is very entertaining to watch
@SLUTSUKKI َ Yeah cause the truth hurts
Oh, I am sure they had their popcorn time while you were dealing with Ireland. And guess what? It's coming back, soon after Scotland's independence. Ireland is the gift of the Ottomans to your kind.
Brilliant as always. I never thought I would enjoy another channel presenter as much as Indy but Jesse is first class.
Yes, Indy set the bar high, but Jesse managed to raise it even higher!
Damn we gained our indipendence with great struggle, no clothes, no food, no men, no ammo but we had great leaders, the soul and the traditional national code: live free or die. Surely the war didn't show mercy to anyone. I greatly respect every Greek and Turk who fell and fought in the war.
✌🏻PEACE✌🏻
Edit: The guy who fired the first bullet was a journalist called "Hasan Tahsin"
It is not known if it was indeed Hasan Tahsin. The Inter-allied Commission could not conclude who fired first and from where. Andrew Mango in "Ataturk" also notes that while their is a claim Hasan Tahsin fired first, it is not iron-clad.
@@konstantinostravlos210 hasan Tahsin is the guy Who first shoot the greeks in izmir and in anatolia
Based on what primary source? The Interallied Committee report does not say who shot first, just that shots were fired from the barracks. Neither do Greek arny reports name a specific individual. Contemporary newspapers do not name him. Only much later sources.
I.e those who did the "police work" after the events did not locate a specific first shooter.
@@konstantinostravlos210 it writes in the Turkish sources
@@carljohnson3319 based on which primary sources? Which newspaper articles? Internal reports? That is the problem with the Hasan Tahsin story. I have read those Turkish sources. It is based on some member of the local organisations claiming so, but there are no outside sources (contemporaneous articles in newspapers i.e) noting it so. The 2/39 Regiment after action report, i.e primary source, does not refer to any individual opening fire, but to fire coming from the barracks.
A book writing something is not enough. They have to go back to the primary sources, and there the info is very little. It may very well be that Hasan Tahsin fired the first shot (if he was in the barracks from were the Greek after action report noted the shots coming), it may very well be no.
This is truly incredible work!
We love you thanks for great "great war" videos
And the greatest youtube history channel thrown up since pericles!
I thought Pericles was more of a Twitter guy.
Turks can be proud. They fought imperialists and proclaimed the Turkish Republic and be came really independent.
It's not imperialism when you try to free the local from the foreigners rule
@@eofter2677
Western anatolia was turkish majority. How is it freeing?
@@eofter2677 that is always the excuse, not the actual goal. Elistists don't give a nut about people mate. They use them as lubricants for their engine.
@@attalus5610 This is the excuse we are taught in Greek Schools mate. A euphemism for offensive wars. Nation States use minorities as an excuse to attack an other country. Greece did it to Turkey, Turkey did it do Cyprus etc. Kosovo is on the menu...too
The excuse is "History" and "Minorities" when the goal is always economics.
They fought imperialists after they were imperialists that lost and genocided a ton of people
Top-quality content!
One of the best introductions to the build up of the 1923 Exchange of Populations I have come across, thank you.
Since both my grandfathers fought in that war, I have studied it extensively, and I must admit, that your information and Analysis is Second to None. I actually double checked your facts, and they are to the point, even the pronunciation of Greek names is correct(something quite difficult for a non Greek speaker) , Just a tiny detail. Metaxas is pronounced METAKSAS, not MetaHas.
My Congratulations SIR !
PS: I love the cherry on top, "the Greatest UA-cam history channel thrown up since Pericles". You definitely melted ALL Greek hearts !
thank you very much
so ur RIP grandfathers lost the war to Turks🇹🇷😁
@@azamkhan1526 You are a shame for the Turkish State...
@@tahakol2402 bro im not a Turk
@@azamkhan1526 where are you from mate?
I must correct a huge error: Mustafa Kemal was sent to Samsun by the Sultan ( Vanidettin) with the order of the British authorities to control some unruly residents of the region who were giving “hard time”to the Christians. So he went to Samsun to control the area. Neither the Sultan nor the occupiers were aware of his real intentions. You gave the impression that he was openly organizing resistence.
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M, Kemal went to meet Russian Generals to have weapons agreement from Russian Government ..That is how ,he won the war.. Russians wanted exchange of guns deal. They wanted , Turks to be in their side as communist regime. And M.Kemal said ..One thing at at a time,, Will talk later said.. and story goes on.,,
Atatürk was a great man. It is a pity that Turkey's current leader doesn't honor his legacy
@Arda Justifying one atrocity for another. Hypocrite.
We as people always honour him and always will. Recep Tayyip can't even compare to Atatürk. The only thing Atatürk did wrong was he didn't take care of his health enough and died to early.
IT WAS TOO BIG FOR HIM, HE AND HIS BULLSHIT ARE PROTECTED BY LAW 5816. SEBATAIS AND JEWISH GAMES AND BRAGGARTS.
As a Turkish i dont want to see greeks and turks fight in comments come on we were great friends before we could be again
Same.
pay our debt and we ll be friends again
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you need a lot of history lessons m8. until the empire grew weak at its last stages, this corner of eurasia used to be the civilized one, where people of many different religions (at least three come to mind) could make a society function properly. In case you haven't noticed, not all Turks are of Mongolian descent, many decided to adopt a turkish identity so that they would not have to become refugees in a nationalistic Greece, who would not tolerate Muslim Greeks (still does not). We share eating and drinking habits, work ethos and ethics. We even prefer the same sports. And, at the time, we used to speak each other's language. Children at the villages used to grow up together.
So, I think you got the answer you were seeking.
@@user-nk3su1wf5l Well said. Turks from Turkey today have as much in common with Greeks as we do with Eurasian Turkic nations.
Sure we can, give eastern thrace to greece (which was never reconquered, only ceded) and she will be best friends with turkey.
Man I love this channel! Jessie brings a "enthusiastic" air to it.
Thanks!
Greeks, Italians, French, English, Australian, Anzacs... it shows how my nation tried so hard to get his independence, I felt honor always.
But today everytime I look to Greeks we look like same, eat same food, same alcohol, we dance same... We are not enemies, we are same but different religion. Always brothers loves from turkey
Yeah
You should study the anthem of the greeks, not everything is what it looks from the outside.
@@ses4068 500years of occupation Im not expecting greeks to be happy with us but Im %100 sure we did not corrupt their culture religion or something because if Ottamans had an intention to pressure greeks we could do with ease.
I hope this video has a second part because it has litterally so little info about the Turkish War Of Independence. Video ends right around time time it starts.
Like a preamble, major injustice to the history of the conflict to omit so much.
Gerisi önümüzdeki yıl gelicek büyük ihtimale
Kutay EXACTLY
Most likely does
Wonderful job! Thank you!
(ref:Wilson) Kemal understood the West, it was all about military might.
@Stephen Jenkins Hence Westerners had the most advanced military, he was true.
@Archelaos Archon "Eevryone was aidinh Kemal" no. All the winners of the ww1 except Russia were supporting Greece and Ottoman dynasty who was an eneny of Kemal. Greeks were better equipped and had better weapons. No need to find execuses. Turkey had been founded from the ashes of an declined empire.
Glad to finally see this!
👍👍
that said, that is not Damat Ferit Pasha.
and Metaxas not Metahas Jessie! Also context for that quote, it was done in 1914, when Venizelos and Metaxas were working together. In 1920 Metaxas is in exile as one of the main Constantinist factors in Greek politics.
@@konstantinostravlos210 I'll have to brush up on my Greek names I guess!
@@jessealexander2695 I'm not sure about Greeks but have to say you nailed Turkish pronunciations except one small mistake: the city of Sivas, it's not "shivash" just "Sivas" with regular "s".
Overall, once again, great video from you guys!
The Turks fought simultaneously against the French, the Greeks, the Italians and the British.
Real talk arkadas: French, Italians and British first betrayed you and then us. The Turks fought mainly against the Greeks.
Actually we didn’t fought with British. They were scared because of Gallipoli.
Turks did not fight against the British during this conflict but nearly did as a result of the Channak Crisis. Check out the fantastic Turkish TV series "Kurtulous" about the Greco-Turkish War.
@fot geo Thank you for that. Is this Greek TV series available on DVD with English subtitles?
@@johnroche7541 British made monarchist rebellions and supplied Greeks but didn't directly fight.
Great history video!
Amazing to think the impact the Great War had beyond its actual timeframe. All of our history has been shaped by it.
Thats the thing about history man it just keeps going. People could say all it started falling after the seven years war too the napoleonic wars and Balkans definitely
@@JewishMcFly-pg3mc if Caesar hadn't crossed that river, WW1 would never have happened. Damn Caesar
What I’m hearing is that the Allies loved the Greek PM because they loved the Percy Jackson books. That’s like if the allies gave Hirohito a pass simply because they thought Tokugawa was pretty lit.
They had probably all studied Classics at University @_@
As a Greek I will clear why Allies liked Greek PM (Eleftherios Venizelos). In WW1 Greece was divided between the King (who was in German's side) and the Greek PM (who was in Allies side). Furthermore, Greek King gave up and Greek PM joined Entente in WW1. After WW1, in 1919 Greece helped in thd invasion of Crimea to topple USSR. This is why Entente and Venizelos had so positive relationship. I hope I helped :)
Ο Ταδε It did help, actually. Thanks.
@@thevoidlookspretty7079 your welcome
I was born in Turkey and now I am 30 years old. But I have not come across a history teacher who explains history as clearly and descriptively as you do. Thanks
İyi yalıyorsun yabancıları
UA-camta cok zaman gecirmis insanim, resmi tarih bu anlatilanlardan cok daha duzgun. UA-camda bolucusu fln her turlu anlatan var@@karamigfer
This is the third or fourth time i've subscribed to this channel. And I haven't unsubscribed a single time, I think UA-cam is doing it's little subtle censorship again where it delays notifications and doesn't recommend videos. This time it looks like their straight up unsubscribing users without their knowledge.
I hope, in comment section there will not be idiotic comments from Turkish and Greek patriotic people.
You can not patriotism as a bad thing you should avoid anything idiotic
Would be nice- to learn from history, so that we can praise what's worthy and not repeat what's wrong.
Greets from Bulgaria!
Although I’m Greek both sides are people at the end of the day under different flags
@Nathan Santoro turkish greek union? WTF?
Akın Özer
Could this be why my grandparents came over to America?
“Savunma hattı yoktur, savunma sathı vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz.”
-Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
Rakı içerken güzel söz
@@karamigferankaranın eteklerinde o emir ile yapilan savunma ile ananın namusu kurtulmuş diyeceğimde seninki pek kurtulamamiş gibi cahil oe seni
Absolutely outstanding 👏🏼
Honestly, as a Greek, I'd blame my fellow countrymen for managing to divide the nation even at its darkest hours. And most of all, those damn royalists who didn't see beyond their family getting settled in a ministry or something else. Venizelos, was the pioneer of modern Greece. Certainly not like what Mustafa Kemal Pasha was for the Turks; that role belongs to Alexander Ypsilantes 100 years prior. But he actually believed and worked for a modern Greece, back in the hardest times of modern history.
I'd never blame the Turks for their war of Independence, but I'd blame the Greek royalists who were unable to see the truth. If Venizelos was elected in 1919, things would be vastly different in the area and EVEN if Greece didn't manage to hold Smyrna, at least there wouldn't be so many pointless death.
I like the way how you look at the history! Respects man!
Let me guess... leftist? Leftist "Greeks" are always blaming Greeks for antihellenism in other countries. They have long long history of treason. If leftist were around during the Greek revolution they would have fought for the Ottomans.
@@mydogsbutler You see not all Greeks are haters and some have common sense unlike you.
@@mydogsbutler he condemned royalists for their policy that led to pointless deaths; You felt offended citing filthy McCarthyist propaganda of the past.
A shameful display on your behalf, of course. Nothing to surprise, since fellow of yours, royalists' correspondence of the time is filled with racist, derogatory, and felonious rhetoric towards the population that suffered... another shameful display. Also, mentioned Venizelos wasn't even a leftist, he was centrist. Get a clue of your ability to judge others.
@@Manouil_III
Did you do lots of drugs as a kid? I said nothing "racist" you slanderous troll.
Greeks suffered for centuries under Turkish occupation. As did many other peoples that were treated as second class citizen under the Ottomans. You seem to have "forgotten" that little part in your narrative you anti-hellenic leftist bigot.
*grabs popcorn*
This comment section should be interesting...
@mr_ anheuser Comes to reclaim the lands that was lost a thousand years ago.
Also says Turks commited crimes.
@@ahmetserdarunal8229 go cry somewhere else. Maybe swim over to greece for safety? Your countrys crackhead leader is going to war against the whole world
@@MrVibriocholerae is that why u guys in in debt?
@mr_ anheuser im not Turkish i just support them
@mr_ anheuser also turkeys GDP is 4x higher then greece
Hi Flo!
Lessons of the past from which we might well derive benefit today . . . if anyone is listening.
Forget it, the amount of mistakes from the past being repeated again are staggering.
Humanity, or rather the leaders of nations, as well as most if not all in politics, care to much about power and wealth for which they happely repeat these mistakes.
@@borntodie297 It's the leaders who make it seem every population hates each other. Democracy is falling, fear mongering, only caring about wealth, subverting the needs of the state for their own benefit. It's sad.
Thank you for video sir
this video is great and it increase my understanding of the situation at that time...thank you. hope to see more from u guys....
It's this region that most clearly defies the traditional notion that world war one was fought 1914-1918. If you were an Ottoman subject of fighting age, you would have been at war almost continuously from 1911 to 1923. 12 years as opposed to four. Balkan troops faced a similar situation, with Greece going to war in 1912, 1913 and again in 1916/17 (depends whether you count the quasi-civil war between supporters of king Constantine and Venizelos). Imagine being at war for 12 years. How does one come back to a peaceful life after that?
For us Turks it was a longer war of almost 50 years of no peace !! (Starting w. Turkish-Russian war, uprisings in Balkans, Balkan War, WW1 and the final war w. Greece and other Occupants of Anatolia until 1922.
Actually it was worse than that since the wars in Balkans have started from Balkan Wars (1912-1913), if you also count the battles between mostly Bulgarian and Greek troops and in lesser degree Ottoman troops in Macedonia which ended in 1908 then they fought for even longer, and for the Greeks and Turks didn't end until the 1923 peace treaty.
At 8:10 the quote uses the word "insupportable". This is a very common word in French and probably betrays the fact that the original quote was in French, a language widely used in diplomacy at that time. Although the word exists in English; the French "insupportable" would be more commonly translated into English as "intolerable".
I learned something from an old Anishinaabe speaker about how you can still feel pain from the generations before you. (I’m paraphrasing here) but it’s an important reminder to acknowledge that your future now includes those who you may blame for the pain are intertwined. Maintaining respect and fraternity is the best way to go.
cete (in turkish words çete) means gang only. it was called as kuvai milliye, meaning force of nation
Bunlarin bahsettigi zeybek gruplar sanirim .
It is strikingly shocking how todays Greeks do not get how todays world is shaped and claiming some lands their forefathers conquered in the antiquity and then lost to other nations a thousand years ago and never forget to mention if they are really the descendants of Hellenes indeed, it is really stupid , especially considering the small population they have , what are those people living in Greece going to do with İstanbul,İzmir or other towns of other countries, İstanbul itself has double the population of whole Greece today
This is were the fun begins....
Get the popcorn ready
in 3o min you have done an outstanding job , and one is even more in awe of Ataturk
I wish you uploaded this video after a video where you talked about the treaty of Sevres because, generally, it can be said that the treaty of Sevres causes The Turkish war of Independence.
Izmir did not have a Greek majority before the Greek invasion. The Greek government sent refugees to settle down and make it look like there was a Greek majority. Also in the first day of the invasion of Izmir at least 2.000 Turkish civilians were slaughtered to make it look like there was a Greek majority. Still there was Turkish Majority. These are documented, if you look it up before you comment anything, I would be happy.
I googled it and it says greeks were twice the number of turks.Did you look it up before commenting?
@@ziovanni77 You see, the Greek historians claim that there was a Greek majority, the Turkish well, a Turkish one. It is also WAY too absurd for there to be a Greek majority 2 times than the Turkish, since İzmir was Turkish land. And i would also like to let you know that the Greek government sent Christian refugees to İzmir to make it seem like a Greek majority. And the Greek high command also ordered killings of Muslim civilians to support their claim. Now, the reason this topic is still being brought up even today is that by that time it was useful for allies to make it look like a rightful war. So this Greek majority lie was known and accepted by the majority of countries. I am not an Anti Greek or any sort of racist but the facts are there and you cannot simply find them by "googling" it. There many layers of misinformation that leads to it. So Please make a deeper research if you truly want to understand it.
@@thehouse9192 ok,but what you are saying sounds like you are just repeating what the Turkish side is claiming! Shouldn't you follow your own advice and not trust either side but try to gather information and put it to scrutiny? For instance how did the greek government brought people in Izmir,are there photos or reports of that? Where did these people live,the conflicting Greek government wouldn't be able to built for them surely. Did they just stay in the streets? And which of the two is it,did the Greeks bring people and make them a majority or was it they were lying about the population there? Also you suggest to look it up, where?Do you have reliable sources that make your case except what the Turkish government claims? It was not a Turkish city it was an ottoman one,an empire that had many different ethnicities in it.Or do you claim that all cities in ottoman empire were Turkish majority? Smyrna was a Greek city before the ottomans just like many others that kept their Greek majority. So Smyrna being turkish argument doesnt fly,it became turkish just after these events. See,I tried to use reasoning and what I can find in the internet to draw a conclusion. Can you do the same?
@@ziovanni77 You are right my friend. Honestly i have been repeating what has been thought to me. I havent done deep research either. But i thought that with enough effort you could find it. It was foolish of me not to give you any sources. I have an exam coming up even in these quarantined times, so i cant really suggest you anything. I am deeply sorry.
@@ziovanni77 Dude just think logically, it is more then 400years land of the Turks. How in the world is it possible that there are more Greeks??
It's very sad what the most of the people wrote in the comments. We're humans and should be happy that the war is over.
Peace is worthless, since there has been no agreement that favored both sides. Dying in war is more preferable than accepting a crappy agreement, sealed with the blood of the murdered and expelled people.
Beautiful documentary
Very interesting!
"History how it truly was"... I see what you did there you Von Ranke fan :P
27:30 I wanna Pericles channel naow.
btw Turkey got ıts first tank a FT-17 captured from France during southern anatolia battles.
Oh hi, im living in Smyrna (İzmir)
@@ataturkcumapper5242 helloooo
İzmir(smyrna)*
The treaty of Lausanne in 1923 with population exchange was so painful for both Greek and Turkey... I always wonder if peace could be achieved in a different way...
whem i asked my great grand father what happened in war he said to me : I DID THINGS THAT I AM NOT PROUD OF. WAR IS SITUATION THAT TURNS HUMAN IN WORST LIVING BEING IN UNIVERSE. When i asked if he killed a lot of turks he said me, yes. But never unarmed. But he killed a lot of turkish soldiers.
both of you learned nothing from this segment
heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
my grandfather cut off 3 Greek heads in Cyprus, the skulls are still at home
Grandfather fought in egypt then displaced to yemen after signing of sevres he turned back home where he found out his wife died alongside with his 3 children after their house collapsed upon them, his elder 2 children where soldiers in sercice also. After the greek invation began he recruted men from around surrounding villages and fought against greeks, the actual mastermind behind them was ali ihsan pasha who planned the final atack to the greek army at afyon is one of many unknown heros of that war. Elderly people around afyon have alot to tell about him and other heros like kadir ceylan, arslanbali etc.
Maybe we can get a part 2 where we get to see the actual fighting going on. But so far it seems that all of this is going to be quite bloody n brutal.
Are you guys on Nebula now? I tried a casual search on there and couldn't find you. Happy to hear you found a supportive platform!
Edit: Woop, just found you by searching for video titles rather than the channel title. Not sure if that's a problem you need to address.
Yes. We're really happy to be new on Nebula and still in the Setting Up Process. But really excited. But thanks for letting us now. Will have a look.
This is an absolutely excellent video