Tory Voters From 2019 Explain Why They Are Abandoning The Conservatives!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- When Boris Johnson won an 80-seat-majority, it was believed it would last a generation. However, a focus group was set up to check in with those who backed the Tories 5 years ago to see if they will continue their support and the news for Rishi Sunak was pretty terrible.
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#generalelection
#rishisunak
#farage
#keirstarmer
Credit: Channel 4
If we get a bit of luck the Tory party is over. Our kids don’t need that party.
In five years a lot of older people will no longer ‘have the vote’ permanently. A lot more of the 13-17 year olds will gain it.The latter will never have known anything other than Tory corruption, likes, austerity and this will work against the Tories for a long time - providing Labour don’t f@ck it up!
The Lib Dems would just take their place.
There's enough welloff people to sustain the ideology of the Tories for quite some time to come I'm afraid.
don't forget that there is always farage, unfortunately there are many without brains
@@richardmadden8742 There's nothing wrong with wealthy people.
There is something wrong with wealthy criminal racist people though.
@@richardmadden8742 You're talking about the new Labour Party, basically Tory lite.
Voting reform is voting conservative again. That's a dangerous level. You've learnt nothing, so make it make sense.
Voting reform or voting FOR Rdform (i.e. RefUK Ltd)?
Thank you comrade 😅
@bm1617 obeying Purin's orders, I guess.
I didn’t vote for brexit or Johnson feeling a bit vindicated. Farage is a mistake
Same here
Das Fuhrage is worse than a mistake. He is an acolyte of Herr Schicklgruber, who has followed the Mein Kampf ideology since the age of 14. He is not a mistake, HE IS A NAZI.
Not Johnson and not Brexit for me. And certainly not Farage.
They are finally the victims of their vile politics. That's why.
We are🏴
We all are, too.🙂🙂
So are we because of their idiocy
Big ol' facepalm for the ones backing deform, they fell for the "I'm a nice guy, listen to me!" twaddle from fartage, knowing he was the one who caused the nation's current problems over brexit, and they think that a second time believing him wil be different, "Fool me once; Shame on you, Fool me twice; Shame on me!".........
STARMERS FOOLED YOU. ?? WAIT AND WATCH. YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING.!!!
@@gillianslater9227 Oh look, a tory bot...
@@twocvbloke NO TORY STARMER LOVER. REFORM ALL THE WAY.100%. STILL GOT STARMERS TINTED GLASSES ON HAVE YOU, FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, YOU WILL SOON BE FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF.!!
It's because of this deluded bunch why we have The Tories here in the first place.... It took them 14 years to realise how bad they are !
Because of Churchill
Nigel Farage is peddling the same lies as the Tories.
Along with the tRump lies and rhetoric and hate that he peddles, Farage coming here to the states reminds me of when tRump visited Kim Jong.
correct massive tax cut for the wealthiest, while pennies (relatively) go to the poorest, and it's pennies if they are lucky, usually it's higher taxes, The destruction of the social safety net the poorest rely on and destruction of the protections for people who are fortunate not to from exploitation sold as cutting red tape.
The Tories raison d'être is to transfer money and wealth away from me and people like these and put it into the hands of the super rich.
They're adults, why would they have been voting Tory in the first place? I was a child when Thatcher and her lot in power and I learned very quickly what the Tories are and who they represent.... I will NEVER vote Tory, thats a stone cold FACT!
❤️ spot on, same here.
Me too
Totally. It's beyond me that anyone outside of the obscenely rich and/or the deranged would ever vote Tory
I simply cannot understand how ordinary working people can vote Conservative. They simply do not have ordinary people's interests at heart. They are, always were and always will be, the party of the rich who con ordinary working people that they align with their interests.They are aided and abetted in this by the right-wing media, itself owned by the rich.
I'm 22 and my whole living memory of politics is all Tories (don't remember Labour at all) my 1st vivid memory was should we leave the EU? I still remember learning what a bad idea it was and now years later it's the case. Also with all the rules breaking with COVID-19 lockdown and just broken promises and whatever Lizz did with the economy. I am absolutely done with them and will never vote for them and reform too.
When politics works, it's boring. When it's on the front pages day after day, it's failing.
@@sueyourself5413OK Pootie-poot bot, fifth columnist or useful (you know what).
@@sueyourself5413 I'm looking forward to the end of scandal of the week! We've lived through so many scandals that would have ended a normal politicians careers but they get away with it because they are either Johnson or a friend of the media.
Even if we had the most boring politics in the world it would be front page news on certain news papers, they have their billionaire press barons’ agenda to push.
@@sueyourself5413Yawn
Voting for Farage? What? Voting for the worst liar. Again it would have consequences
*His vote for Farage is a vote for Putin.*
That's right 👍. Him and trump and Brexit was helped by Putin. Have a nice day 🍀
They assume politiceans are sensible enough to only offer policies which work.
They dont want to spend time analysing them. They assume honesty.
This country is doomed.
A large portion of the voting public base their choices on who they'd like to have a beer with and not much else
@@BarryWaterlow
Very true, as Farage will be Kremlins representative in the HoC, similar to how the KGB have their own representative in the HoL.
All made possible by Brexiteers claiming that they are some how Patriots!
I had a door step from a Labour activist a week ago. Stood at the door speaking to him for a good 5 minutes and left him with my opinion that it could be a poisoned chalice for Labour unless they are honest and clear. There is a real chance that one Labour term will be followed by several Tory terms. A real chance that voters will blame Labour for the effects of the Tories skimming off the public purse and taking that way too far. The majority of voters do not take an interest in politics and that makes them very malleable and easily conned. I hope I am wrong.
I don't think you're wrong, in fact you've summed up the tory playbook pretty succinctly.
Not you’re right brainwashed and gullible
I think you're 100% right.
Even worse, it is very possible that a Labour term would be followed by several Tory/Reform terms, as the two parties have morphed into one (see Braverman, Rees-Mogg, Badenoch etc. - not to mention those like Anderson that have openly switched "sides")
The Institute of Fiscal studies said that £18 billion of cuts are already baked in by Westminster chancellor Hunt that Labour and the Tories have signed up to.
The Institute of Fiscal studies said that Labour and the Tories should be more honest with the public.
The Resolution Foundation said that the next UK government at Westminster faces a £33 billion hole in finances or a return to austerity.
The Tories and Labour want to reduce the national debt but the Resolution Foundation said promises " detached from reality".
The next Westminster government will need to fill a shortfall of £33 billion in the public finances unless it's willing to introduce a fresh round of severe austerity the resolution foundation said.
Last month the International Monetary Fund warned of a £30 billion financial Westminster hole after the general election.
The Institute of Fiscal studies said that both Labour and the Tories were ducking the hard choices that they would face after the Westminster general election, leaving voters operating in a knowledge vacuum.
UK people have expectations that Labour will quickly improve things if they win the general election but Labour say they are keeping to the Tory fiscal rules about borrowing reducing and Keir Starmers Labour also say that income tax, Vat, NI will not increase.
If Labour wins the Westminster general election and public services don't improve substantially after 5 years then the mainly English people may turn back to the Tories or even worse a Reform Tory coalition government.
The Scottish people haven't voted by a majority for the Tories since 1955, yet keep getting Tory governments and policies.
With 544 English Westminster MPs and 57 Scottish Westminster MPs, Westminster is effectively the English parliament.
For 72 years of the last 100 years there have been Tory Westminster governments.
In an independent Scotland the Scottish people would be governed by the government that they vote for and not governed by the government that a neighbouring country voted for.
10 out of 15 moving to Labour! WIPE OUT numbers
I'm astonished that people still think there's a difference between the two cheeks of the same backside!!
@MichaelNelson-it9mf look this current iteration of Labour are hardly radical, agreed. However, i expext them to at least be a little less self-serving and compassionate. Whether this will be the case i don't know but the country just needs some stability and Starmer is at least a little bit more relatable for people. It's a low bar admittedly. Best case scenario would be a good Labour majority with a lib dem opposition as they seem the most sensible on balance this time around.
They serve Israel and that can't be good for us given the genocide taking place. We are not isolated from international events despite Brexit.
@MichaelNelson-it9mfthat’s stupid
@MichaelNelson-it9mf with the exception of 1-2 seats Greens are a wasted vote because of the first past the post system. I'm afraid that's just how it is. The only way to change the voting system would be to vote Lib Dems as they are the only party (significant enough anyway) that would want a change to proportional representation. Otherwise no this country is exactly the same as US, its a two party state
So much for the Tories claiming the public no longer care about Partygate. How many times have we had to hear what we are supposed to be interested in? Chickens marching home to roost big time.
Still waiting for the Sue Gray report ?
Self serving is the phrase I would use. We expect public servants, which members of parliament really are, to serve the public and not their pockets.
Come on Scotland 🏴 let’s leave this sinking ship. Let Scotland rejoin EU and grow
That would be great. :)
I hope it can be done. Really do.
If you pull that off, I'd like to apply for scottish citizenship please!
@@SkeletonDrums1 I’ll stick the kettle on
They may not like Starmer and don't really care for Labour, just voting to get Tory out.
I can't criticize for that, I'm doing the same thing. Difference is I voted for Corbyn, not the Tories last time around. Losing Corbyn is why we have the Labour party that we have now.
Personally I'd rather vote Green but until we get PR I'll keep voting tactically
God who would want any of these as neighbours?
I've yet to see a single Conservative placard outside anyones house in my area which is traditionally a Blue area.
I still wouldn't be surprised though if a number of Tory voters while outwardly being ashamed of admitting it will still end up voting Conservative.
Very true. Saw it in 2019.
Same here, except our 3 conservative councillors all got replaced by Labour in the recent locals, and they worked hard for the town.
I've not seen any posters on houses at all (except for my daughter's SNP leaflet in her bedroom window). And normally there are banners and posters on street furniture. There's nothing.
I’ve seen a few in my area
Huge numbers of Lib-Dem posters in what are traditionally Tory constituencies in the West Country.
Could any of those who put their hand up for Reform, name any of that party's policies?
all Tory MPS
Have they any which would work?
They’ve only just realised what the Tories are? I’ve known since I was a kid.
They'll forget it within a decade, too.
Calmer under Starmer - I like that one.
Also I agree with not wanting a 'personality'. I'll take boring but gets the job done over 'oo look at me .I've no idea what I'm doing but at least I make headlines'
No sympathy for any of them, to be honest.
If a few people feel this way imagine what the whole country feels ? They are finished and Sunak should realise this
This shows the vulnerability of democracies for populism.
(And social media are amplifying this).
'People say Farage is racist, but really, hes saying just the same things ive always said.' (paraphrased, i know)
She's so close.
I get the feeling that the Farage-appreciating woman has no depth to her political analysis, and she has merely heard some catchphrases that stick in her mind.
I like what he says. I have no idea if it will work,but I like it.
Just like what he said about Brexit,
My one word to describe the tories is LYINGTHIEVINGEVILDEAD.
Farage? Bunch of thick Brexiters shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Yes, some folk never learn. Farage and his friends are the cause of the original problem, ie. Brexit. He has now simply changed the name of the party to Reform and somehow everything's OK. And the thing is Reform is even more right wing than the Tories, yet many folk think that Farage is going to save the day. They've either got short memories or are short of braincells.
How can you vote Cameron or Boris with a straight face 😑
Superglue.
Wow… I’m glad I left Morley decades ago when the town had primarily a population of kindly, gentle people with a community spirit and a sense of decency. This is incredibly disappointing… to see Johnson supporters begrudgingly voting Labour who back in the 1960's-1990's did so much for the town not to mention building support networks, local health and welfare services for the many council house occupants. It wouldn’t surprise me if Reform get a massive amount of votes there…
There is no point in talking about rejoining the EU until it's possible to do so. All that would do is damage their chance of winning the GE. One of the criteria the EU have for joining is political support of all the main parties in that country for joining. As long as the Tories are threatening to pull us out again if they gain power we will not be granted membership. We either have to totally crush them or get them on side. Personally I would prefer the crushing option but I really don't see that happening.
The first steps toward rejoining has to be 1, media reform and 2, electoral reform.
Yorkshire born and Yorkshire bred. Strong in the arm and thick in the head.
It’s still the same thing as it has been since the electorate fell out with the Tories. Labour MUST deliver something and sow they are on teh side of the majority, and not fall into sleaze and corruption. That’s the only way to stay in power, not having a ‘super majority’, not by looking after themselves. In sort labour - DON’T BE THE TORIES.
All these people here have missed a trick! What about the LibDems?
It’s because they fell for Refarce propaganda the fools
What about the Lib Dems? Vote Lib Dem, get another Tory coalition. No one who dislikes the Tories should throw their vote away on the Lib Dems.
@@StormhavenGaming : Why not a Lib Dem Govt? Or even a Lib Dem/Labour coalition?
One way or another it’s guaranteed that there’ll not be a Tory govt again for another ten to fifteen years or likely even longer. Tory party might even be gone altogether….
Just lies and more lies everyone of them LIAR'S
The silence speaks volumes!!
I know in the larger picture, these people are important regarding votes etc., but I have zero time for them. These people created the situation
Like Turkeys voting for Christmas
Labour's avoidance of talking about the EU could be very damaging for Labour.
Labour can't talk about the EU as the tory press would tear them a new one as the press is mainly owned by rich torys.
In the short term probably not, in the longer term it might be.
It’s a subject best avoided, ! If the U.K. decided to try and re-join the EU the terms would be so draconian that it would not get past a referendum. Many EU nations are now coming to the conclusion that the Brussels elite have become far too powerful and are kicking back at them. I see reform for the EU on the horizon with a return to economic cooperation between European nations with far less power held in Brussels ( a new EEC if you like ) . For the U.K. rejoining such an organisation would be far more acceptable.
Zero Seats !! ❤
I think the best example of Sunaks disconnect was when he asked a homeless guy what business he was in. Comedy gold, if it wasn't so tragic.
Next week, we'll have the grown ups back in the room. I'm dreading what they find out, once they see the books.
Loads will be voting for Reform UK!
You are absolutely right when you say Starmer will have to implement policies that will make peoples lives better, and if he follows your advice on what to do, Labour will go the way of the Liberal Party when they last won a cracking majority.
I want the Tories out but I don't want a Labour Government with a huge majority . I remember Tony Blair using his landslide majorities to introduce tuition fees and to send troops into Iraq and Afghanistan because his majority allowed him to do this without scrutiny . I'm in favour of PR and would like to see the larger parties having to build consensus with smaller parties to get legislation past . Enough of this combatative politics that we've seen with Thatcher, Blair and Johnson it's only lead to people feeling disillusioned and ignored
Farage no no no he is a 🤠🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 his party will totally reck us more
Nhs, welfare state, minimum wage, equal payact, racial discrimination act, death penalty, decriminalisation of homosexuality, civil partnerships, good friday agreement, public ownership of industries im sure there is a whole lot more good labour have done for the uk over succesive governments can anyone suggest any positive conservative legacies? They historically look after their own
Gay marriage. Which most of them voted against.
Succession to the Crown Act of 2013?
@@SunbathinginAntarctica and that one is positive towards the electorate because??
@@davidgalbraith694 It ended preferred male progeniture to the throne and ended prohibition on royals marrying Catholics. You did ask for any positive legacies, not just legacies *that benefited the electorate* .
I can understand why people voted Tory in 2019 as their manifesto actually had some good socialist policies and everyone was sick of Brexit.
But they delivered on none of it. The result was an aberration.
I have no sympathy for anyone who has voted for them since or plans to.
Socialist policies 😅 which one of these guys were you?
I can think of no reason for an average voter to vote Conservative,. Not a single one.
Never forget…Michael Gove was the cabinet minister in charge of PPE …..
No one should feel sorry for them, they knew what they were voting for. At some point voters should also be made accountable, not only Politians.
Reject one charlatan to support a bigger charlatan.
there wasn’t one boat before the referendum! From 2018 till 2020 less than 1300 people crossed the channel none before Then Then we left the Eu and Dublin agreement in 2020 and the number is. Now 115,000 well done Farage and the Tories well done Brexit
These people have no proper convictions, i would vote Conservative even if i was worse off.
These people might have fallen out with the Tory party but they don’t seem to consider the catastrophe that is the Labour Party .
Sunak regretted not having sky as a kid. I’m a pensioner and thanks to them taxing my pension I’ve had to cancel Sky last year so we can pay our energy bills and put food on our table due to their mishandling of the country.
He implied it was because his parents couldn’t afford it. It was because his parents felt it would distract him from his homework.
Sky didn’t even exist until he was 9 … he can’t miss what wasn’t there …
@@karllonsdale4878 agree, it was typical Sunak when put on the spot, pluck something out of the air that may or may not exit.
Interesting. Only 10 years ago you would NEVER have heard a Tory voter say they’d vote Labour. Now we’ve all become floating voters? This is worse for the UK as it leads to much less political stability long term.
UK Public "can we see an improvement to living standards? Like scrapping the two child benefit cap, or student debt, like you said you would."
Blue Labour "fiscal rules says no."
Shame none of them paid attention before this. 2010 would of been better.
The woman in black on the right most seat, is apparently going to vote for both Reform and Labour, jeez make your mind up!!!
I live in so called 'leafy Surrey' and I've not seen a single Vote Conservative poster anywhere on my travels since the General Election was announced. Presumably there will be some that will still vote Tory, but nobody wants to advertise the fact. I hope in the election itself those that say they won't vote Tory when asked in a poll, still won't vote for them secretly when it comes to marking their mark on the ballot paper .
Also these people voted for this country to be at is. They shouldn't moan anything that was their doing.
They believe politicians are honest. Surely they wouldn’t offer something that wouldn’t work?
That’s how we ended up with Brexit.
The Tories have been divided for years over the EU issue and their parliamentary group's failure to respond to the concerns of
the grassroots membership and the wider population over the protection and social well-being of the nation in various areas
of policy. They have actually given the impression that they care more for the world and its dog than the folk to whom they
owe their position as English/British MPs.
Unfortunately brexit will make country poorer for some time to come, the reason people voted labour after second world war was because they saw that state control maintained fairness [the poor were better of food wise with rationing]. American money paid for NHS etc not our toffs, they will never want to invest in society or their people.
We paid for it by continuing war time taxation and redirecting it to public services.
So war time austerity continued .
Only growth could create the tax without austerity,
We are in a similar position now.
But where does growth come from after Brexit?
Politically inept and that is why this country is a failed state.
Fool all of the people some of the time .... That's over ....
Ordinary people will muse for a long time about what colour paint or curtains they want, then want a new curtains the next year and redecorate. they will spend hours looking at prices in shops and statistics on football and cricket. but seconds on what people take tax from hem and do with it as they want. Political history should be taught in school.
Honestly I expect some will just change to Labour because they think it's like sports. They want to back the winning team. They don't even know the policies or track record.
Again with the "rejoin the EU" line Max? Surely you must see by now that the EU won't even *consider* thinking about letting the UK back until it can see solid, bipartisan support in UK politics for rejoining. With the Tories, Reform and the DUP vehemently opposed to this, the risk of a change in UK politics leading to a second Brexit is simply too great for the EU to waste time on the UK.
Don't know what they are complaining about some of us warned you that the tories were only out for themselves they have never introduced any policy that benefited everyone, you got what you voted for so shut up.
the majority of tory voters that will switch, will be switching for the same reason they voted tory in the first place... greed lol
Labour can't fix the economy though because they don't agree with european values on citizens rights and mobility and their attitude so far, even within just this general election campaign has been noted by the EU for all the wrong reasons.
Brexit is the elephant in the room. Where does growth come from after Brexit?
In five years time Starmer will say ….we never knew Brexit was such a big barrier to investment.
Companies prefer investing in the EU.
I think they need to set up a non-partisan kwango to report monthly/quarterly on the basic status metrics of the economy, NHS, forces, police etc to monitor progress. It has to be a long boring road to recovery and it will be useful if the electorate can be kept impartially informed of how things are going. A few years of a still tough economy and many voters will have forgotten the carnage that 14 years of exploitation by the Keystone conmen has inflicted.
EVERY polititian around the world should try a 3 week living on the lowest standard living in THEIR country at least every 2 to 3 years... by doing so they DO understand at least the meaning of it, and more importand they see the difference when their return to their own way of living the working of that has a longer impact on NORMAL THINKING people😮😮😮
6:18 oh dear taken in by the lies 😂
Come on the tory have done this for years these people make me sick
I don't trust these polls because voters act following public opinion. When the Tories are unpopular, voters won't publicly admit voting for Tories, but in the anonymity of the polling booth, they vote for them anyway. Hopefully, this time the gap is too big to overturn public opinion. Unfortunately, Tories always do better than expected.
the conservation party only won in 2010 with a coalition government. it wasn't a massive swing to the torys
Only themselves to blame! Not gonna say I told them so at the time that they would regret it!
They should all walk around with ‘I’m sorry’ badges on!!
The upper class.... no really???
4:53 like Liz truss running through corn fields 😂
🤔 chickens home to roost, 🤞
Until Brexit I found politics boring.
Now I follow every word I hate the far right and dislike the far left . I would love to have boring politics back in the UK. Quite frankly, I have better things to do.
Why vote Conservative in the 1sr place
Un doing 14 years of mess will take time. A bit like Brexshit ....
Voters like these will not give starmer the time. They will be back voting for snake oil salesman saying they can fix everything tomorrow,
9:18 that's pretty worrying
I watched this live on Channel 4.
Another fascinating video; I look forward to watching each one now and can't wait to see what you'll be posting as we rush towards 10 p.m. on Election Night! I'm sure many of your followers would love to know if (I mean how and where) you will be watching the results. And also, will you be posting content on Election Night? I'd like to know your thoughts about the BBC's decision to front their coverage with Laura Kuenssberg. Let us know if you can. Thanks again for all you do.
I don't know but I get a feeling that most of these people and people like them especially those switiching to Reform, would've voted Tory again if it wasn't led by (let's be honest) a British Asian.
Hurray, vote labour. Then keir starmer can just continue to carry out the WEF's wishes - just like Sunak. Oh. wait, its labour, he's for the "people" right ?
Nigel Farage just an ordinary guy with a millionaires bank account.
Exactly. The only ordinary thing Farage has in common with some of these people is that he smokes about 40 cigarettes a day
Which was taken away once he couldn’t keep a million in it.
@@johnrussell3961Yeah but that was just one account he has plenty more
Bye bye Sunak you winker
To be absolutely honest - Fuhrage is a dick - but he did throw a few sensible left of centre ideas into his populist mix - with the proposal of cancelling student fees for nhs workers and teachers - not even Labour could entertain that despite wanting to cancel student fees entirely a few years ago
The current Tory party is going to get a kicking from its former supporters because of acts of hypocrisy and lack of morality by the Tory hierarchy. This is not to say that they have lost their faith in traditional Tory values……. Just the ability of the current Tory party to deliver those policies. Most know that the Tory party needs to re-organise and find its moral compass and they can only do this with a clear message from their supporters that they have to up their game. Most disaffected Tory voters realise that a period of government by the class war and envy obsessed Labour Party will be the only way to recover the Tory party and come back in five years time to form the next government when the high tax and anti aspirational Labour Party punishes all those who work hard. I fear for the next five years as the only credible Labour policy is the line that Wes Streeting is taking with the NHS but unfortunately I predict he will be overthrown by left wingers who care more for political purity than for pragmatic healthcare delivery.
Max, I agree with you.
But from the look of things I do not think that Labour know the mountain they have to climb in order to stay in power.
To have any chance Labour need to throw everything (including the kitchen sink) and rule out nothing (customs union etc.) to fix the economy.
They do not have the time to play political games trying to keep Brexit voters happy.
Without a strong growing economy they will be out by the following election or forced into a joint government with the Lib Dems.
Yeah Sunak... Didn't Jervis Cocker write a song about him ?
"You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
And dance and drink and screw
Cause there's nothing else to do"
Fash Garage conman plc - fools will be fools.
🏴🤔, get awa
Some people are just very slow learners. Better late than never. That said, the main alternative available to the voters of England, is "changed" Labour.
So changed, if fact, Starmer has abandoned the principles Labour were formed under and actively pursued Tory voters.
To be fair to him, under FPTP, what choice has he had? England votes either Tory, or Tory-lite. The English won't have it any other way. Blair knew it. It's even more the case now.
For Labour isn't quite as anti-Tory, in terms of fiscal policy, as it seems.
If the English vote Labour because they feel the Tories have left them, so be it.
It's just a parallel as to why Labour lost Scotland.