We Were So WRONG about the Ardat-Yakshi...
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The Ardat-Yakshi are a mysterious and dangerous part of Asari society. Cursed with a rare genetic disorder that causes instant death in anyone unfortunate enough to meld with them, the Ardat-Yakshi have become a shameful and taboo topic that the Asari would rather not talk about.
But there are a number of misconceptions and inconsistencies about the AYs in Mass Effect lore. And in this video we’re going to set the record straight and discover how wrong we were about the Ardat-Yakshi. - Ігри
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0:29 what if we don't drink coffee
@@Nathan79147you drink tea :D
"Latent" is a key word in the codex as it means pureblood Asari who are carriers for the AY gene can be made into Banshees
Exactly buddy didn't pay attention to what he played
My read is that Samara only knew for certain there were 3 AYs, because they were her children. No one except the residents are allowed into the monastery, so she never got verification there was more than just her daughters in there. It seems like information the Asari government would prefer stayed buried.
This was my take too the first time I played the games and caught that inconsistency.
It's not even a contradiction between ME2 and ME3- it's within ME2 itself as Big Dan shows with the honey salesman. Samara isn't well informed and has a one track mind to just kill Morinth, and the Asari government has been proven to withhold important info (like the beacon)
I still think it's a plothole. Justicars would bring AYs to the monastery - remember the note about justicar Phora? Aside from that, asari would do everything to keep AYs existence not widely known, so I think they would rather have justicars well informed.
My interpretation is that Samara was using the term "Ardat-Yakshi" colloquially to refer to an asari who was on the lethal end of the spectrum, rather than the milder cases that merely cause nerve damage
Three AY's left in the galaxy that she is hunting/on her to do list, the integral part of her oath as a Justicar
Samara was a Justicar and normally would've been executing or transporting AYs to the monastery. That's one of her jobs. But plot holes exist and ME is full of them.
Actually, the codex doesn't say that the banshees are specifically made out of AY Asari. Rather, it says that they're made from Asari with active or latent predispositions. This seems kind of obvious, and I'm not sure why you didn't point it out.
That's always what I think of to when this is brought but it never seems to be acknowledged
Maybe there were only three FULL AY left and the monastery housed those with those "latent tendencies," to prevent them from mating with others, possibly making new AY. Seems like the whole thing was intended to be clear, but people didn't grasp this.
@@TheVillainOfTheYearmaybe it wasn't conveyed clear enough, I don't understand what any of you are talking about
@@channel45853 in other words, the codex says that any Asari who is, was, or could be an ardatyakshi is assimilated into a banshee. It doesn't necessarily say that *ONLY* an AY can be assimilated into a banshee.
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The number of Banshees that appear in ME3 is easily explained by the "latent predispositions to becoming Ardat-Yakshi" part of the Codex text. Not all Banshees needed to be Ardat-Yakshi in life, they just had the genes for it, though the trait didn't manifest in them. This still doesn't solve the disparity between Samara's info in ME2 and the existence of big monastery with multiple confirmed inmates in ME3.
Let me ask you a question, if you would build a prison for criminals or dangerous people. Would you rather build it to house a certain amount of people or just for the 1. murderer and the 1. thief you have at this point in time? Also it seems this prison is nent to house the guards and to deescalate the inmates by giving them a place they can enjoy. If they feel at least free enough that rebellion wouldn't cross their mind you deal with a lot less problems.
They say the Asari keep Ardat-Yakshi existence in secret
Meanwhile Ardat-Yakshi is a character class in fucking MMO game in-universe
Well, the AY are the Asari equivalent of vampires. They keep the fact that AY are real secret, but they are a part of myths and legends.
@@MS-io6kl This. The Ardat Yakshi ("Demon/s of the night winds") were gods of destruction in Asari legends. the genetic condition was named after those mythological beings.
That said, I feel a better comparison than vampires would be succubi.
@@thegrouchization The reasoning for the MMO AY being vampires is likely to throw off chances of finding the truth by associating the name with something unrelated to the condition.
With the fact that AY are essentially Succubi, better to have people who'll start a conspiracy based on a game not start out on the right track by misleading them.
I like how Morinth is the only daughter of Samara who looks like an exact copy of Samara.
Another thing, though not explicitly stated, some AY go on to become Commandos instead of going to the monastery. In 3, the Commando who shot Joker's sister mentions an Asari with "a genetic defect" and I cant remember but I think something similar to this was mentioned in Andromeda.
Doesn't the Codex Entry about banshees explain how they have so many of them? It says the Reapers can draw out either active or latent Ardat Yakshi tendencies in the Asari that they "husk-ify". I've always interpreted this as the active ones are your basic Ardat Yakshi like Mornith. But the "latent" ones are Asari who run the risk of having an Ardat Yakshi daughter if they try have a child with another Asari. So if Samara were put through Reaper processing, she would also become a Banshee as we've seen that she carries latent Ardat Yakshi tendencies even though she isn't one herself. Also, the monastery being that size makes sense, as it's probably an old structure from back when the Asari first started interacting with other space faring races and decided to hide the Ardat Yakshi from everyone else. And the whole "pure blood" sentiment probably didn't exist back then as the Ardat Yakshi used to be reversed and worshipped by the Asari, so it stands to reason that the number of Ardat Yakshi that existed back when the monastery was first constructed was substantially higher.
7:22 "The Reapers create them specifically from asari with active or LATENT predispositions to becoming Ardat-Yakshi"
My take is that Ardat-Yakshi-ism is a spectrum, with lesser versions and fully realized forms. Samara's daughers are all the fully realized form, whereas the others at the monastery have the lesser versions.
There's actually a very good reason why Samara only knew of her daughters, she was only knew because two were at a monastery, which doesn't allow visitors, by the by, and Morinth, who she swore an oath to kill. So it's less likely she lied, and more Justicars only know the amount they exclusively have to either hunt, or in the case of Samara, created.
Plus, she doesn't say that there are only three... She says, "Only three that I know of." BIG DIFFERENCE. It's like someone asking, "How many Starbucks are there in your hometown?" and you answer honestly, "Two that I know of." There easily could have been five, you only knew of two because you didn't go to parts of town just because (depending on the size of town) plus it's been over 100 years easily more AYs could have been turned in. Not to mention her whole focus was to kill Mordenth, she wasn't concerned with any other AY and wouldn't have paid any attention to any other, for lack of a better term, "wanted posters" for other AY. Plus, if she had found one and killed her for refusing to go, then they would no longer be in the count of those existing right?
Would have been interesting to
See how morinth would acted if Shepard survived
I think she sends an email at the beginning of the game but then she becomes one of the banshee that Shep fights on earth
@@guilhermelucena3465 I think dude meant 'what if Shepard survived snu-snu with Morinth'
Here's a dark thought. The Asari could probably cure the disease through genetic engineering but they don't because they don't want to acknowledge AYs exist in any meaningful numbers.
Seems to fit in with modus operandi of the Asari we know of. With them hiding a functioning prothean beacon in a shrine to athena on thessia.
I also seem to vaguely remembering some or another asari acutally mentioning how asari command or govermwnt or society mentioning how "they" rather not acknowledge stuff. Maybe liara in me3 with regards to the shrine?
Lol then why wouldn't they just cure them in secret?
@@jacobsampsonis7782for the same reason you don't want to heal a human psychopath. You think they're evil incarnate, pure and simple.
@@jacobsampsonis7782,
I would suspect it would be more about economics. That monastery makes honey, exports it, and most likely the money goes to the government. Depending on the process required to make that honey, it could be that no other Asari would be willing to make it. Thus the free labor, for a job no others would take, and extra money for the government.
@@JabamiLainPsychopathy is not curable yet. Wrong analogy.
Remember, Samara did say they were the only ardat yaksi known. After her loyalty mission, she did say that there could be more ardat yakshi out there.
Other than the Reapers of course, the Banshees were one of the best villains in Mass Effect. That screech terrified me. That, the reaper horn, and the little bells/ringing on those Demon's Souls Octopus creatures makes me realize how much sound can really impact one's perception of enemies in games.
A Geth can survive mindmelding with Ardat Yakshi.
Hey Dan, I think it's been mentioned quite a lot in the comments already, but the Codex specifically says that Bansees can be created from actual AYs as well as from those with the genetic predisposition to become AYs. That's why we don't just meet them at the monastery but many other places. There's 8+ billion Asari on Thessia alone, maybe half of Illium (40M+) are also Asari and that's without any of the colonies we don't really visit specifically. That can create a ton of Banshees.
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He really just dropped a video to sell G-Fuel.
Regarding the size of the monastery, before they met the other species all Asari will have been Purebloods and, therefore, more AYs would have likely existed. There may have been loads of monasteries across Asari space and this is the only one still being run
Ardat yakshi remind me of the sexy space vampires from the movie lifeforce which is a crappy 70s b movie.
They literally drain the life force from you and kill you when doing it with them.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - every time someone says "head canon" I'm reminded of Gunther Herman of Deus Ex wanting a skull gun!!
I deducted that the asari began to mate outside of their own species to avoid having everyone evolve into an ardat yakshi as Morinth put it, that would be their genetic destiny. So even if not every ardat yakshi becomes a serial killer, that would effectively risk their species with extinction.
I think Dan is missing the key word “latent”. Maybe there’s plenty of Asari out there with the Ardat-Yakshi gene in them that just doesn’t manifest
I named my Dark Urge, Lolth-sworn Drow, Morinth. It felt appropriate.
I really wish there was like a 1% chance Shepard could survive the Morinth backshots. Like if you did it enough or got lucky enough then you would get an alternate scene where you survive and Morinth is stunned and Shepard is confident af after
“Do you think you could survive a round with Morinth?”
If Commander Shepard can’t, I have no chance.
4:55 - "by their Overseers!" Overseers, Huh! So, Vault-Tec somehow created the AYs! Vault-Tec is responsible for everything!!
Samara only knew about the Ardat-Yakshi with ACTIVE predispotitions which were her daughters. The reapers converted Asari with LATENT predispositions which the other Asari didn't know about. It's right there in the codex. It's the difference between being diagnosed and not diagnosed.
I cant count how often i played ME2 & ME3... this video makes me want to play it again.
There's another mention in ME3 at the hospital. It's a coversation between Asari Comando & Councilor talking about how her partner( who she had feelings for) was an Ardat Yakshi who served as a Commando & was later converted to a banshee. That Conversation if I remember correctly pertained to the colony that Joker is from and gives a hint to what happened to his family. So there are more Ardat Yakshi but less the severe conditions may have less stringent conditions applied to rehabilitation and more allowances. Also the monastery exist as rehabilitation & reconditioning to help Asari return to society in a safe and controlled manner. At least that's the vibe that I got from the lore & materials at the monastery. Still the place is draconian as hell.
Beautiful race with such a mystery hanging over them made me love them
I think it is likely that some regular Asari can carry genetic potential of Ardat yakshi but remain dormant and possibly gets triggered once they creat offspring with fellow Asari. When Reapers catch Asari with genetic potential of having child of Ardat Yakshi, they maybe forcibly modify gentics of them awaken Ardat Yakshi DNA to become Banshees, therefore having more banshee that expected. Like hemophilia, which people who carry gene that cause it and not necessarily have any symptoms until it pass down and show from their children.
While the inconsistency is there between ME 2 and ME 3 on the number of AY's, I think you are reading the codex wrong.
"Reapers create them specifically from Asari with active or latent predispositions to becoming Ardat Yakshi."
This phrase does not mean that they create them from Ardat Yakshi necessarily, but from any Asari that carries the active or inactive gene. Which could be anything from a handful of Asari, to literally millions, as we are never told what percentage of Asari have an inactive or active genetic mutation.
It might for example be that out of 10's of millions that have the genetic mutation, only 0.1% manifest the condition. Which would make about 100,00 of true AY's in the galaxy. Who knows?
thank you for explaining this, how it's phrased, and it being in the codex, will likely have most people not knowing about this and only knowing what is told to them in the cutscenes or dialogue trees cause I would assume most people don't read the codex, I know I don't unless it is for Shep's personal history
In a sense if Samara could potentially be turned into Banshee because she carries the gene even though she herself isn't an Ardant yakshi.
Don't forget reapers could clone AY like the thorian cloned Shiala
iirc there was a datapad where it's said that a justicar brought back ay kicking and screaming, implying there's no morality behind anything done there, even if you're not dangerous you're treated like a criminal, the strict schedules and slave work harvesting honey, really made me hate the asari.....I can only imagine that several ardat yakshi who never paired with anyone, or who had the non lethal version were traumatized and forcefully dragged away from their homes.
More Mass Effect , Big Dan ! Love your ME content.
About the banshees, as the codex said, their are Asari with latent or active traces not Ardat-Yakshi in self, so maybe is like a ilness or mutation present in some Asari even if they are not "pure blood". Maybe Samara's child are the only Ardat-Yakshi with full mutation active and the other one are less Ardat than those.
Well the narrator said that the reapers turn asari that either have latent ardat yakshi or pre disposition. Which means they aren't showing signs of that genetic defect yet
I'm pretty sure I remember a codex entry in Mass Effect 2 that says Aradat-Yakshi are close to 1% of the Asari population.
It's possible Samara was referring to confirmed free Ardat Yakshi, and at the time all three of her daughters may have been running free and ended up at the monastery sometime between 2 and 3, joining every other known AY.
The existence of a less severe manifestations suggests that there could be Ardat Yakshi running around who just haven't been noticed. Possibly not even by themselves, if they haven't tried to mate or when things went wrong it was at least somewhat close to normal mating going wrong(it almost certainly does sometimes, as it does for every living thing currently known about).
The Banshee codex does also mention latent potential- even if the condition is known, if the word latent is being used reasonably here, they likely wouldn't be considered Ardat Yakshi. This could potentially give us all the Banshees we need, even if Samaras kids were the only known AYs in the galaxy.
the fact that the codex says "active or latent predisposition" for ardat-yakshi genes for making banshees, I think they were implying that other asari can be transformed. The ardat-yakshi "syndrome" or whatever we want to call it is genetic, and only happens in pureblood asari, so it might be something similar to inheriting a recessive trait from both parents. i.e. Samara isn't an ardat-yakshi herself, but she carries a gene necessary for it, which was passed on to her daughters along with a trait from their other parent(s). So some banshees might not be full ardat-yakshi, but still be carrying the right genes to be turned into banshees.
Maybe there's more monasteries? Or, since Samara is unlikely to lie, way more Ardat-Yakshi on the run than we and (she) know(s) of?
I think that we need a video on the true form of the Asari! In ME2 a very good point was brought up that they look different to everyone alien to them.
There is a mention of the Ardak Yashi monastry in ME2 on one of the citadel shop conversation.
Basically, they don't make them *EXCLUSIVELY* from Ardadt Yakhshi, they make them from asari that have the potential to become them or make them based on their genetics (which is also where the monestaries come into play, to hold potential ones as well as the ones who actually are ones)
Your video answered it already with the codex active OR LATENT Ardat-Yakshi gene. How many true bloods do we know of? Do we see if at any point in an Asari Family tree true bloods existed? This gene may be more common as we think. I mean if you get a child it doesn't only can get your or your partners hair color, genes can mutate and the size of the monastery can be explained with different approaches. First there are also guards, cooks and other staff. If the Ardat-Yakshi are that dangerous and a dark secret you can bet the government wouldn't spare any expenses. And you don't build a prison for the number of criminals you have right now otherwise you would have to rebuild and demolish all the freaking time...
The codex says people that are AY or have the recessive gene. Like Samara. So that could be quite a few more potential banshees. Also there are a lot of backwater worlds where asari-asari pairings would be more likely to happen. Or even the norm. So there’s room for more banshees to exist.
I assume that there are other asari contolled planets that have these monasteries to house/jail them. What I find hard to believe is that they cant cure said problem.
Plenty have already pointed out the "holes" you've mentioned, but there's a large one that's being overlooked: The Collectors. In ME2 we learn that they are basically the scout force for The Reapers. Part of their jobs, is performing genetic work on the various species running about the galaxy. Even attempting to fuse alien DNA with their own. Now, fast forward to ME3. The Reaper versions of the non-human council races aren't simply husks, like we've seen previously. They are altered, from top to bottom. If all it takes for an Ardat-Yakshi > Banshee conversion, is the "latent" genes to become one, then there are potentially millions of Asari able to fit the bill, and genetic tampering is second-nature to them.
As for the strict nature of the monastery... Well, the instructions are on the tin, so to speak. Monasteries are generally places for monastic/ascetic living and devotion. Strict scheduling is also a hallmark of care for people with mental disabilities or the imprisoned.
If there's any big plot hole in all of this, it's how the merchant knew about the monastery. Is it simply a folk legend of sorts, floating around, so no one takes it seriously?
Although I do agree it was more likely a change made later in development, given the stigma of the condition as well as personal shame Samara may have towards having to give up her daughters in that way, she may only be mentioning them as her code probably compels her to not disclose real time details of the AYs. Plus we do see a number of dead bodies throughout the monastery so it's possible the Reapers could have repurposed them into Banshees later.
One thing about the Banshees, you note that many Asari probably have latent genes to be an AY but are not capable of destroying their mates. Perhaps there's more AY genes out there and it just turns a small number of them into soul suckers? It could be like any number of human conditions that can cause anything from something mild to something debilitating/horrible. This could explain how you keep coming across banshees and why Samara only notes three deadly AYs in the galaxy?
notice how the codex said that banshees can be made from asari with a "latent predisposition to become Ardat-Yakshi"
Samara's statement in the second game is actually not contradicted by the revelation of more Ardat-Yakshi in the third game. Her actual line is that "she knows of only 3 ardat-yakshi in existence" considering she also states that in her hunt for Morinth she's been outside of Asari space for an extremely extended period of time, she would almost certainly be out of the loop. Plus, she herself says there may be more she doesn't know about and even some living in secret out in the world. Also, it's been pointed out already but yeah, the "latent" part of the codex implies that even carriers of the gene whose children would be ardat-yakshi can be converted into banshees.
In ME2 Samara spoke of their symbiotic relationship in ancient Asari. That made me think of our vampires. That is supported by Samara pointing out that not all of their victims result in death.
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I assume Samara didn't tell Shepard about the monastery that housed Ardat-Yakshi because it was classified by asari government or maybe she moved her daughters to the monetary recently before the events of ME 3. Maybe there was more Ardat-Yakshi at some point but the numbers dwindled over the centuries or maybe Samara didn't know there was more though she assumed they're might be in ME 3 the Milky Way galaxy is a big place and asari space has many planets with Ardat-yakshi the asari even Samara and other justicars may or may not know about.
Even though yes, it is a plothole with the whole 3 AY, you missed the part in the codex where it says banshees can be created from asari with LATENT genetic potential for the AY condition. So it probably means that even Samara, who is not one but has the genetics that trigger the condition, could become a banshee.
While I figure Samara's 3 living Ardat-Yakshi comment in ME2 is just a plot hole or a retcon, if I remember correctly, if you talk to Samara late in the game about her plans for the future, sometime after killing Morinth, she says that she plans to continue on with her calling as a Justicar since there may be more undocumented Ardat-Yakshi hiding in remote systems of the galaxy.
Hey big Dan I habe a question Who hangs up Shepard's sign at the end of the third part if you didn't have a romance?
Perhaps Samara's 3 daughters are the only ones (at the time) with the "deadly" version of AY? So Samara simply believes they are the only "real" AYs out there; the others at the monastery are just "other" residents?
I wonder if pure blood side effect seen in merits were a direct prothean effect from uplift , than from the reapers associates that were in the previous cycle , we know they can be converted to banshee but what if the protheans had other uses for them it’s one of the things I want expanded on in the next me 4, we know from javik in his speech that he hoped that asari would be the vanguard in the next cycle, shepherd asked if it was true, and javik replied what does it matter, it was referred as a lie , but what if the protheans really did have something else planned this is why I want to fine more prothean survivors in the omega 2 relay
The info on the banshee said latent AY. My head canon took that as a genetic trait that is just dormant in the individual and the Reapers activated it in edition to their other crap. It would open the possibility of many more AY in the future should BioWare want to use them. Maybe there is an increased chance of that gene being passed down or something for Asari + Asari reproduction. It would also explain the hatred for Asari + Asari reproduction.
I had an odd thought a while back. It would be 100% in character for the Protheans to have attempted engineering Ardat-Yakshi on purpose, probably as biotic assassins for their own empire. Or, alternatively, they would have hoped the AY's would be the nigh-unchallengeable rulers of our cycle.
It was a thought that inspired a little snippet I wrote for my AU (with minor crossovers) setting.
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The Prothean’s accented baritone was crystal-clear in Benezia’s enclosed office. “A team of our scientists had hoped that the immense biotic power and predatory behavior of the… ‘Ardat-Yakshi’, as you call them, would allow them to dominate your cycle, and enforce a united front against the Reapers. But, as I understand, they considered it a failure at the time, as the genetics were not dominant.”
Benezia imagined an asari society - no, probably a galaxy - dictated by the whims of the most amoral, unleashed, rapacious Ardat-Yakshi, and shuddered. “It’s very much for the best that that didn’t come to pass. They would have preyed upon just about everyone with near impunity.”
Leroy piped up. “Like the Collectors, the geth, angry husks, and vasudan cultists weren’t enough…”
Garrus chimed in. “If you saw all that on your tour with Shepard’s sister last year, Jenkins, then I guess I really didn’t see everything back in C-Sec.”
John Shepard, meanwhile, was more than a little exasperated. “Benezia, is this another of those ‘state secrets’ that the Matriarchs decided to keep from the rest of the galaxy?”
The matriarch weighed her words, clearly trying to keep the pain out of her voice. Those oh-so-important goddess-damned secrets were at least partially responsible for what had happened to Liara.
“In this case, Commander, no. The existence of the Ardat-Yakshi is more of a source of embarrassment and shame than a total secret. But I don’t think any asari knew of the Protheans’ hand in it… prior to today, that is.”
ME2 "there are only 2 Ardat-Yakshi"
ME3 "we have more"
It could also be that the monastery is very secretive about their population of Ardat-yakshi. I wouldn’t doubt that’s the case since the Asari as a species are very ashamed of their existence. It could be why Samara doesn’t truly know how many there are. The only ones she knows about are her own family.
What would happen if they weaponized Ardat-Yakshi against the Reapers? Would it even be possible? Technically reapers are made up or entire collected species post-cycle, so would it have an effect?
"Asari with active or latent predispositions"- maybe 3 active and the rest were latent, or they indeed multiply from ME2 to ME3
How did the Turian shopkeeper know about the Ardat-Yakshi? I thought their existence is kept secret by the Asari government.
Also, the codex says the Banshee can be created from Asari with latent Ardat-Yakshi genes. So that can explain how the Reapers created more Banshee despite the limited number of Ardat-Yakshi.
I really wish they did more with Morinth in ME3, although tbf it never made sense to me why Shepard would choose Morinth over Samara, I as the player would do to get Domination and for the lulz but as a renegade choice in-universe, it never made sense to me
As for the Banshee thing, I just read it as all Banshee being from Pureblood Asari not neccesarily Ardat-Yakshi but I also still think there are more than what Samara says there are
Quick side note- I always PeeBee in Andromeda should've been an Ardat Yakshi and your potential relationship would have a unique dynamic
"but as a renegade choice in-universe, it never made sense to me"
It makes perfect sense. Shepard clearly states why he chooses Morinth when you have to make the choice. Morinth would be more useful to him since she is more of a ruthless killer, which is what a renegade Shepard would definitely value when taking on an enemy like the Collectors.
Another reason it makes sense is because a renegade Shepard would see Samara as a potential threat once the mission is complete. If you remember Samara's recruitment mission, she says that she is bound to Shepard for the duration of their mission, but if she notices that he does anything she deems "extremely immoral" she would be bound by her code to kill Shepard once she is released from her oath to him. So when given the opportunity to do so, renegade Shepard seizes the moment and helps Morinth eliminate Samara (and thus a potential threat to his own life) with no witnesses. No witnesses being important because I think murdering Samara in cold blood because of a perceived threat would be too much for the rest of Shepard's team to tolerate and their loyalty to him might start to waver.
fringe systems where there may be more Ardat Yakshi. Add that to the fact that the entry in ME3 about banshees says they can come from those with a "latent predisposition," (indicating, say, a recessive but not active Ardat Yakshi genes) and going from 2 to 3 known living candidates to 12 doesn't really seem like a massive push to me. The monastery can be explained as it is in the video: built for when there were more, or future proofed in case more show up.
I mean obviously they just wanted more of this enemy, but the error isn't really all that egregious
Played through these games many times and I never knew about the emails
I always get excited for a new Mass Effect vid. 👽 The monastery sounded miserable. I hated those damn Banshees.
Bro the narration has said they don't have to be active AY even if they have the recessive trait that they'll become a banshee
The Reapers don't need an actual Ardat-Yakshi to make a Banshee, the lore says they can have latent dispositions too. For example, the Asari at Huerta Memorial with PTSD talks about her friend and how she wanted it to be more, but couldn't because her friend had a "medical condition," Later in her story it becomes clear her friend was turned into a Banshee. That tells me she wasn't an Ardat-Yakshi, but if she ever had children with another Asari, they would be.
I thought it was common knowledge that there are 2 versions of this disease (just like in humans we have recessive diseases). And Samara's daughters are the only ones that are full Ardat-Yakshi. But if you are confused, try reading the wiki " The main feature is a monastery that houses a large population of asari with active or latent Ardat-Yakshi genes, a disorder that causes the death of anyone who mates with the afflicted asari"
Dan I love your video but you did answer your own question there's more BANSHEES in game than AY's because the reapers can use ANY asari with active or LATENT predisposition of becoming a AY.
So any asari with dormant AY Gene's like possibly Liara could have those Gene's turned on by the reaper turning them into AY's
To be fair, the banshees are created from Asari with a predisposition for being AY, not that they're actually fully AY.
The codex says it pretty plainly. If they have the gene that could make them Ardat-Yakshi. Doesn't mean they are one.
I kinda wish that if you was 100% renegade shepard you could survive a morinth melding, just because he's/she's already such a badass and strong willed man/woman that you can handle it.
I assumed that Samara only knew that her daughters had that gene and that the Asari government withheld information on the AY because they wanted everyone that isn’t an Asari assume that the Asari culture had no flaws or wrongdoings.
Given that it's a "genetic defect", I'm really surprised that a so-called advanced society like the asari didn't isolate the gene and come up with a genetic treatment for it. Screenings could've been done in utero for the gene. But if they did that, there wouldn't have been fodder to create Banshees which was the purpose for the AYs in the first place.
did you see when you choose morinth, she will apear as banshee in me3 final mission?
Latent seems to be the key word
Yeah, this always bugged me as well.
With other things said and done in ME2 & ME3, I've come to a sort of conclusion that Samara was just talking about her daughters. However, as we see here, it was not communicated in a clear way. Whoopsie! Another great Mass Effect video. Thanks! :-)
You conclusion on the Banshees is incorrect. The codex says they can be created from those with LATENT AY genes. It's safe to assume that at least some Assari have the genes for AY but are not 'full blooded' - that allows there to be more Banshees then known AYs.
Doesn't solve the ME2 inconsistency though.
I'm positive samara said in ME2 that she had brought 3 AY into existence, not that they were the only AY in the universe
So there is a big misconception samara said in me2 that she only knows of 3 in all version so why would that number be a retcon is beyond me. She said she ONLY knows of three that means there could be more like less then 20 or 30 but also some may be adat yakshi but not to that severe like morinth that they kill but maybe remove some memories or giving headachs
I think that Samara was talking about Ardat Yakshi of a certain power. I as the codex talks about predispositions I would guess a 3rd generation pureblood Ardat Yakshi is more potent than a first generation one.
The codex on banshees says that the supposed Ardat-Yakshi genes can be latent, meaning you don't have to be an actual Ardat-Yakshi, but simply carry the non-dominant gene - that two Asari parents are needed to make an offspring an Ardat-Yakshi implies it is not a dominant trait and two copies of the gene are needed for the trait to emerge in the individual, which makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. So, you don't have to be an Ardat-Yakshi to be a candidate for the reapers to turn into a banshee, you just need one set of the gene, not two. So, naturally there are more than three banshees.
As for the size of the monastery, I like to imagine that being an Ardat-Yakshi is not the only reason for staying there. The Ardat-Yakshi need staff for one thing, and maybe scientists seeking a cure or better therapy methods? Also, since in-species mating is no longer common, it's likely the number of Ardat-Yakshi has dwindled throughout the centuries. So maybe it used to be a more populated place (meaning more Ardat-Yakshi, more staff, and more scientists)
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I am guessing Samara just lied down to play the severity of the problem. Since it is a very much guarded secret in Asari society and she only wants to implicate her own daughter.
I like how Dan says do you think you could survive around with Morris I'm going to take a serious rain check and say no this is why I always help Samara
Question in Mass Effect 2 Samara say to Shepard that her daughters are Ardat Yakshi because she is a pure blood is that means that if Shepard have kid´s with Liara they will be the same ?
Maybe Samara’s daughters were the only AY with the lethal version.
Given how shameful the Asari are about the Ardat-Yakshi, I prefer to think that Samara was either underselling the problem to an outsider or was purposefully kept in the dark given that she was predisposed to having Ardat-Yakshi children.
i kinda took it as samaras daughters are the only ones severe enough to outright kill every single person they “bond” with
It would have made sense if Shep could only survive the hanky panky with Morinth if his/hers renegade score is maxed out (if they were b-b-b-bad to the bone :-). But with that said, I think many story elements weren't fully developed at first and as other writers came along they were just winging it. This explains why a 1000 year old Justicar who dedicated her entire life to hunting AY never mention the monastery in ME2.
You also have to remember the monastery is classified info, in 2 theres no way people trust Shepard because of Cerberus, and EDI is constantly listening on the Normandy
@@nullnull4010 Sorry, but I don't follow. What does trusting Shep has to do with a Justicar not knowing about the monastery or the option to send Morinth there? Or where her other daughters are... My guess is because none of the devs knew about it yet :-D They retconned it into the lore and it make NO sense.
I might be wrong but Samara doesn't say there are only 3 ardat yakshi, rather than she's only got 3 daughter and all of 3 are ardat yakshi. She never denies that there could be more.
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