Neil deGrasse Tyson on God
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2017
- In this web exclusive, correspondent Martha Teichner asks the acclaimed astrophysicist, as he examines the universe, whether he believes in an all-powerful creator.
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The lady thinks she's staring Satan in the face
🤣🤣🤣
Lmao
Thats y all relegious are judgmental sad
In this case satan is smarter than her
No, she’s just staring at a really logical dud
I know she didn't like what he was saying, but not interrupting him or doing weird stuff was really respectable.
@@mitchellc4 Finished? Are you sure you didn't leave anything out :P
The interviewer is a single woman from NYC who did her undergrad at Wellesley and her MBA from UChicago. Pretty sure loved what he was saying...
@@mitchellc4 X to Doubt.
@@mitchellc4 This is the reason why i'm an atheist.
ua-cam.com/video/Wp5AHzHq0IA/v-deo.html
"You believe something in the absence of evidence. That's why it's called FAITH"
Simple words but very thoughtful!
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
@vqsxd that Is an empty assertion
@@carl7674 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
@vqsxd if we care about believing what is *true* or most likely to be *ttue*, faith is a very unreliable tool to use.
@@carl7674 We need to believe what is true though its not optional otherwise you have delusions and go against the life itself.
This man has got the gravitas, the class, the elegance, the vocabulary and the voice to utter it without offending any reputations. Truly a master.
He really is quite the belligerent bell end whenever anyone has the audacity to disagree with him
NDT is so pompous and full of himself
Bro think is emotional like humans . If you believe that god created you , wouldnt you believe that he also created your emotions ? If there is no emotions you wouldnt even consider an earthquake a disaster ! Hope you got what i mean .
A master??? Dang.
He says “all powerful and all good” . No where in the Bible does it say he’s all good. That in it or itself shows how little he has truly thought about it
I’m just glad the lady didn’t interrupt him. Discussions should be: one person says something, finishes, and then the other person says something
I agree with you 100%. Neil deGrasse Tyson might not so much lol, he loves to interrupt - or at least interrupt Joe Rogan. :)
If someone is saying something that isn't true and they are not qualified to say it then they should be interrupted when they are on TV. Philosopher Francis Bacon proved communication about the universe is complicated and limited by human vocabulary so we need intellectual standards to reduce inevitable accidental miscommunication. Conservative media has proved that humans can lack integrity and take advantage of this inevitable accidental miscommunication so we need journalist skilled in epistemology and educated in a wide range of subjects to call out dishonest or wrong individuals when they are on TV.
@@AlecWelsh-ut7cc I agree with you in theory, the problem is the same can be said for the opposite. I’ve noticed a lot of conservative tv hosts are constantly shouting, or talking over people giving legit information. So it goes both ways. In the end stupid people should be allowed to talk so smart people can correct them. But just talking over each other doesn’t accomplish anything
@@williamswenson3970 that joe rogan podcast really made me not like tyson as much for being so rude lmao
Sadly that's not the case, as we saw in the presidential debate. Quite possibly humanity's lowest point
His shirt fits in perfectly with the logo on the bottom right corner of the screen.
Slash Brees dude hahah
Amazing skills of observation. (And I mean that sincerely)
Haha in this chaotic endless debate of excistance of God that's a good observation!
Must be god! That’s the evidence he was after 😂😂😂
Thats all i look at now.. Thanks
The point he misses is that you can’t define what “good” is if there’s no “bad”.
That's not necessarily true.
@truebding.. evolution makes us know what is right or wrong as a human being..look all the animals in wildlife killing for survival..
@@lovepeace9747 If you judge the good and bad according to the evolution, you have no solid standpoint. Evolution is a continuous process, which, according to your view, may change the good and bad as time passes. Then, there’s no point in the discussions regarding what good is and what bad is, so the discussion in this clip also becomes pointless.
@@truending . You have a point but this is not an evidence that theres a God that is all powerful and all good
@@truending it just how living things worked..evolved in order to adapt in surroundings so that they can survived..
Personally, I was never a believer, but I listened and well grasped what a bible tries to teach, visiting church every sunday for 20 years of my lifetime. In my opinion, it is a literal manual of how to be a well behaved person. My conclusion about faith is clear. It can be a curse but also a blessing. People believe in something that cannot be proved but it's exactly what pushes them forward in life. Getting up every morning, going to work, fighting with daily struggles like pain, misfortune, etc. but knowing that someone out there is keeping an eye on us and one day everyone would be rewarded for their effort.
If faith in god can save lives and keep people from becoming mentally unstable to a point of self harm, I'm not against the idea at all. Only those who try to change my mind.
And there are those who develop religious trauma of hell if theyre a bad person
Religion is not all good
We are responsible for this chaos on Earth not God we have to fight and change it, Adam and Eve were living happy lives but they disobey God,they were living without doing any works and God gave us a beautiful heaven but then Adam and Eve break God law and now on Earth we shouldn't imagine for life that we get on heaven we have to face this problems and fix and work for this world so that's the solution 😊
@@nothing26375
Youre responsible because you got brainwashed that you are
How u know u not going to hell, just stop believing fairy tales
What about the science in it What about the facts that they ACTUALLY found the blood of Christ and HE ACTUALLY 100% Came back to life And his word was that of the Bible so why change your mind you already know which makes it that much worse for you
@@Gtagcash That is complete nonsense, prove it first off how would you be able to prove it is the blood of Christ? do we have Christ DNA? how could you demonstrate that it is Jesus blood and not simply the blood of any other person?
He doesn't exclude the possibility of the existence of God, he is open to inquiry. Inquiry and openness are the hallmarks of a great thinker.
Free spirit 👍🏾✊🏾
@@dan78789 good for you😂
Daniel Pedersen could be agnostic.. don’t be so quick to label boss.
@@dan78789 I don't think he's an atheist. Not being convinced is not the as denying. The existence of a god or whatever you wanna call it is neither confirmed nor ultimately denied by sience yet, that's why it's called faith. This is what he's saying. And I share his point of view.
@@Qrexx1 it's faith because there's no evidence and no evidence means it doesn't exist. God is a myth.
He lookz like they woke him up just to ask him this
John Lewis Was 😂🤦🏾♂️
Lmao lowkey
🤣🤣🤣
Yep XD
Looooooooool! ;D
Neil is just being kind
Exactly
this is the guy that said the earth is peared shape
LMAO
Love the way he close the question.
The lady allowed him to exercise his freedom of speech. That’s excellent of her
LOL She asked... He didn't ask her - Can I tell you my view?
@@mitchellc4 where is your evidence?
Lol that’s so not how freedom of speech works
No she just asked him a question and listened when he answered it
She must work for CNN
"What I believe should be irrelevant to anyone. It's not about me. It's about the real world." If only more people let themselves consider this notion.
The sad reality is he is pushing pure religion.
@@UCLAfilm01 Agreed, in a generalized sense of course. Atheist or no, I think it can be agreed that individual beliefs are far less important than acting upon the world as we can perceive, study and understand it.
Also, it's possible to be atheist and not liberal, as well as religious but not conservative. Cheers!
@@UCLAfilm01 Quite correct.
@@tryb3gd489 I agree that saying that Humans are at "different stages of evolution" is a bit misrepresentative. Rather, different strains of Human (call them "races" if that's convenient) have taken different adaptations. The amount of melanin in the skin and hair as a prime example. Could you say that the amount of melanin positions one Human strain as "more evolved"? I don't think so. Differently evolved, perhaps, but not "more" evolved. People are constantly evolving with every generation.
Truth is by its nature exclusive.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a great combination of a scientist, writer and science communicator.
😂
Neil is F.O.S......🍐. 👍. An OBLATE SPHEROID, ... FREAKING HILARIOUS..
What a STOOGE, And to Know that some people ACTUALLY Take him SERIOUSLY is Even FUNNIER Yet!!!!😂
😂
@@WARRIORMETAGOD Exactly, Point Made 👍🍐😂🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@WARRIORMETAGOD Next, He'll claim it's Really kinda Cylindrical now, kinda like a Banana 🍌....😂😂😂😂😂😂
Religion is based on “trust me I know.” Science is based on curiosity, and that’s what makes science more tolerant.
No, spirituality is based on curiosity. Science is based on experiment and evidence. Religion is based on power.
this lady looks like she is about to talk about how unfaithful he is to her church Sunday school
Seems like She is about to crawl the wall hissing
💀💀💀💀
exactly so
You can't tell from her reaction whether she likes what he's saying or not. This was just an interview and she had that same look on her face whenever she's listening to any of his answers. You can find more clips from the interview here ua-cam.com/video/Yj7oSjwhfv8/v-deo.html
Don't draw assumptions based off of looks. You don't judge a book by its cover.
This lady looking at him like he’s the Anti Christ
Her instincts are good.
@@donaldjohnson2038 she prayed 30-60 minutes a day and now shes realizing that god doesnt exists wow.
@@wuvv haha
@@wuvv So now, she'll pray two hours a day! No amount of lack of evidence will convince willful ignorance.
@@blackholeentry3489 true these people are braindead
They don't even try to understand
1:08 "If we bump up to the bearded man - if that shows up, we're good to go!"
Later that day she got a tattoo and started smoking weed
Kevin Martinez lol
I mean...
Smoke weed every day
lmao!
He is one smart dude.
"Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza."
-Michangelo
Wait, do you mean the turtle? xD
nice way of putting it i guess
HA! Real old skool there. "I got to get a new route!"
Cowabunga dude!!!!
"pizza dude's got 30 seconds.."
What I "Believe" should be irrelevant to anyone. It's not about me, it's about the real world
The guy absolutely nailed it.
Nailed wht?
Lmao that interviewers face though..
I love how she tries to throw him off with facial expressions conveying her obvious disdain for the notion that there is no god.
Eru Iluvatar I think that's just her face.👺
RBF
Eru Iluvatar Oh hey, an all powerful creator! Lol
priceless face. after watching the video i came here looking for comments about her face and here it is
"what I believe should be irrelevant to anyone, it's not about me" .-
But but but my feelings....
Dirk Knight exactly. Beliefs inform our actions most of the time
Yet.. religious people want to make their beliefs a law every one needs to follow.
Dont even know what that means
@@SrRAFAGAS I don't say anything about law....I just think Christ is truth, and I feel sorry for those who don't want to live in truth and would rather ignore truth and live some other way.
Man created God/s, PERIOD!
He is an awesome teacher.
When he said “what I believe should be irrelevant” I gained so much respect for him
Josh Windes that Right there is the key to science
I consider nearly all of what Tyson says to be irrelevant, so he's close to being correct about one thing, at least.
WB D'Angelos GUYS I FOUND A FLAT EARTHER
@@martindagoat3909 - Now if you could only find the CAPS LOCK key and figure out what it does.
WB D'Angelos yeah it makes it sound like I’m yelling which is was exactly my intentions Einstein.
-Do you believe in god?
-Does it matter what i believe?
Well done.
@@set_apart360 If you dont stand for supernatural things, maybe you are just fine :)ű
Believeing in things that you cant confirm to be true or false sounds to me like really believing in your own imagination to me.
@umair ahmad Well, it is a belief, a belief is about what a person is convinced to believe to be true. If you cant confirm that what you believe in is true or not, it does not really matter. Religion is about giving people comfort, not truth, and most people want that comfort more than they want the truth. Afterlife? Nobody knows there is one. God? Nobody could not proove to it exist. Religion is deeply there in every culture, but people do not really question why. Maybe that is the problem.
@@set_apart360 Theists: We have an explanation for the origin of the universe based on late bronze age stories, and we know this information is true because people wrote it down in a book. Oh and it will always be the same it will never change no matter what science prooves to be true.
Atheists: We accept the current explanations of science about the origin of the universe because science is not biased and if we find more evidence in the future we know these explanations can change.
Who is honest?
@@set_apart360 We have common acestors with apes, we evolved differently, but it did not stop, you know, we just cant fastforward time to see how we or other apes evolve in time.
Oh and if everything is god's work, why cant nobody find a proof that a god exist? I mean you realise that we are talking about a belief, not knowledge. If we would know that a god exist we could proove it and it would not matter if we believe in it or not.
@@set_apart360 That is the beauty of it, you know science is a tool to describe and understand nature, when you make a theory in science other people will test it, and if it gives reliable results they will use that theory as a model. The model changes, as we get more information, so it can give more and more accurate results.
But when you neglect and ignore everything what science shows us, because you cant accept it, and you rather believe in god, which has zero explanation, i say you are not really making sense.
Neil makes total sense to me. I had the pleasure of seeing him on tour this year and so glad I went.
100% and this is 100% best example of his intelligence. He is so right on this topic!
hes not, many agnostic or christian theologist already debunked things like this.Even atheist agree on it (theologysts).
@@koz3ris252 well, that's because you got sources from ONLY believers and not non-believers. i'm agnostic, and i don't believe in any God.
@@koz3ris252 Show me an example of someone accurately debunking it.
@@koz3ris252 Please provide evidence of what Niel DeGrasse Tyson says being debunked.
@@koz3ris252 The way I look at it, even if a god is real, going off of what I see, in the world, killing, people starving, diseases, etc.. Why would I even want to workshop such a HORRIFIC god? To me, real or not, they would not be worthy of my devotion. Just like a evil KING, people would overthrow him or call him out for being such a horrid leader, same should go for such a horrid god!
"Do you believe in g-"
"ME?!"
😂😂
Underrated comment... Those who know
perfect start :D
God I love youtube.
I rarely laugh out loud nowadays. Thanks, fun joke.
The fact that he sounds startled just adds to the joke.
I thought this comment was a Dark Knight reference, "swear to me!" But I watched the video back, and I get it now 🤦🏾♂️
Obviously he never met shrek
star pro Best comment here
This comment deserves 1k likes minimum. Dead
BigmanJevnikar lol thank you
I've never met shrek either
lmaoooooo
I wish this is how we all debated/ disagreed. With respect lol. And if you ask somebodys opinion they should be allowed to speak it in full even if you disagree. Respectful communication is nice lol.
Absolutely agree! We humans create scenarios to try to make sense of things we cannot comprehend. A religion is a belief system that tries to uphold a way of life through persuasion and not evidence-based practices.
It’s crazy to think about . God and religion are man made concept. we conduct our lives a certain way because we say it’s god way or will but yet we created the concept of god . 😳
I kinda disagree. Before scientific evidence of being clean, we have scripture that teach of how to be clean and staff off infectious diseases. In some cases, scripture came before science.
@@djbrowm1562 Science greatly overshadows whatever ideas and practices existed before, especially those described in religious scripture, and they're overshadowed both in amount and efficiency. Just look where we are now compared to medieval times. While some religious scriptures happen to mention basic scientific practices, they come absolutely nowhere close to today's science.
@@trashtuber6021 You talk about science like it's the best thing to ever happen to the human race. Science has achieved some great things, but it's also contributed to a lot of horrible things (including our ability to destroy all life on the planet).
The thing is, science and religion should not be trying to compete to see who's better. They both bring valuable information to the furtherance of the human condition.
Religion has been around for 5,500 years. Science has been around for about 400 years. There are topics that religion cover that science will not, because science is the study of the natural (observable) world. You would be ignorant to only look upon science as the end-all-be-all and completely ignore the 99% of the world that is unobservable.
This is why both religion and science should be promoted and studied.
You can’t properly debate with someone that has made up her judgement even before entering the conversation.
Randall Wong It's called Confirmation bias.
@Oni Master
www.lexico.com/definition/confirmation_bias
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
@Rickey H. well said
@Rickey H. Planets are formed when a star explodes and the remnants of that star start forming into an object by gravity. There really isn't much dictating where a planet can form other than it must be inside the star's gravitational pull. Imo because exo planets exist, it doesn't prove god exists.
There are also theories which state that when the universe experiences a heat death, it results in another big bang. An endless loop if you'd like. I'd have to do more research on the matter, but I did like how you involved math in your arguement.
@@tumei1851 well its not that you like its true the universe can't create itself with presence of physics law like Stephen Hawking said , physic laws don't create matter and that's the reality there gotta be an agent that causes things to seize to exist its like looking at an engine and saying wow this engine existed due to physic laws , it's total wrong ! Physic laws can't create matter they're just rules or facts to be going through while the agent is working , physic laws are exactly like 1+1=2 , it can't create matter ! There gotta be an agent that seizes the matter to exist or to be created .
What a polite way of saying - NO!
@@kingflockthewarrior202 No, he said he would believe if there's edvidence.
@@kingflockthewarrior202 in no way did he say he wanted to believe anything.
God is real John 3:16-17 we are living in God's awesome creation
@@Brawley_jit Uh.... No.
There is no yes or no. Thats the whole point. Saying yes or no contradicts with concept of God. If God is a super intelligent being, then we don't have the intelligence to say yes or no of God. If God is not a super intelligent being, then there is no difference between you and God. Which means you are God.
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"If God is all powerful, he cannot be all good. And if he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful" - Lex Luthor
I need to see this man step in a room with Cliffe Knichtle to discuss their beliefs because both are honestly similar but Neil is more about science and Cliffe about religion
A religious person would probably say they don't need evidence because they have faith. That makes me feel uncomfortable about everything else they believe because they feel they don't need evidence to support their claim. Neil has such a thoughtful and logical way of explaining things, he is incredible.
There is proof
@@josephkanyike8319
That is just a claim. SHOW the proof.
Show us the proof. @@josephkanyike8319
@@carl7674 God is a keeper of His word and does not change his covenant. He created the heavens and the earth, he gave man the administration of this earth, Psalm 115:16. He acts on earth as a response to man/human. It's interesting how we reject him, push him out of schools but blame the results on him. In this world exists the all bad devil, Satan. The author and inspiration of all that is evil and bad. God is all good and powerful but so so gentle he does not impose on man His will. He gave us the power of choice. Consequently there are principles he set in motion that determine results, like seedtime and harvest, when you sow hatred and all kinds of evil, you receive evil from Satan through people sometimes and then blame God. Now the choices we make sometimes give the devil access to our world(eion) and the effects reach even the innocent. But 2Chronicles 7:14 says if my people who are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray I will heal their land. We have a responsibility on the affairs of this world, let's not act so innocent, and these actions affect not only us but our world even the innocent. God is all good, and like I can't see heat but know it's there because of its effects on me or things around, so you may not see God but can see what goodness he does that's beyond science. Just that you may ignore or reject the proof, but that doesn't take away the truth that we have seen things only God can do. Stage 4 Cancers healed with proof, blind eyes opened, and hiv after prayer to God as He says in James 5:14-15. These miracles come as a proof of His word, and if His word is true and these things have been documented if you care to know, proven by certified medical personnel even in your countries. Therefore if He gave us His word, and His word can be proven do do things beyond human science, then He is true and exists.
@@carl7674 There is so much evidence, scientifically speaking, our world is unique, nothing like it has been found, there is also evidence in the Bible, its stories are real and archeology confirms it, as well as the prophecies. It's a topic that can be talked about for hours.
She looks like she can't even comprehend what he is even talking about...
She does. But Neil burst her bubble.
Brian cox explained the same thing Neil did on joe Rogan podcasts
Ha
She can but her belief and faith is too strong to want to comprehend what he’s saying
Ya she has to much faith. Or not evidence
I like how he's so careful with his response
Neil's careful with all of his responses; he's a world class orator and educator.
@@themodernshoe2466 I second that he's great
I'm religious and I really respect this guy for just stating his opinion based on his experience and not judging others for what they think, the way he stated how religion is a faith is the best possible response imo.
Because its not easy to deal with religious people
@@notyourpapi or because it's a sensitive subject
Got to see him speak when I was a student at case western. Amazing man.
Yes! Neil Degrass Tyson! You are a big teacher to me and have been for many years (half my life actually). Thank you for teaching me everything i love your thoughts and explanations
Are you 80% woman and 20% man today
But he didn't actually teach you anything. All he did was a juvenile analysis of the idea that God is either not all good or not all powerful, which is a seductive but incorrect idea.
God is both all powerful and all good, and this is WHY he chooses to allow evil to exist. If he didn't, then the soul and free will could not exist. Also, without the ability for destruction, you also cannot have creation. The very laws of the universe that allow natural disasters to exist are the same ones that allow for life to exist and come about.
The laws that allow suffering to exist are the same ones that allow strength and courage and virtue to exist and emerge as well.
A world with the possibility for destruction or suffering or malevolence is BETTER than one without it. A world without these things is an empty void without planets or stars, without oceans or weather, without plants or animals, without free will or people or societies or art and love and passion and fear and courage and suffering and endurance and weakness and strength, without evil AND without good.
What was God supposed to do? Not create anything? No, he took a chance, he had faith in us. He decided something was better than nothing, created it, and then gave us reason, empathy, the ability to feel meaning and purpose and have courage and become better and stronger and transcend our suffering, and even gave us a huge book of instructions on how to do all those things (the Bible). God is amazing and he gave us an amazing gift despite, and partially even BY giving us suffering as well.
@@HelloThere.....Love this Glory to the great god Jehovah
@@HelloThere..... God doesn't exist
@@HelloThere.....people turn to religion because they’re scared of what happens after we perish
I didnt think the title was real but he put it “on god”
@@klevens5496 bruh he died 2000 years ago can we just move on
@@klevens5496 that's right brother preach to all this atheists👍
Alex Pierre I’m not Christian , and preaching doesn’t prove gods existence.You must give a reason.
@@adzzino can you prove god doesn't exist ? Give me one of those long explainations a really good one,im listening.
Alex Pierre I never said I dont believe I god.i do , im a Muslim , and I believe it gives you logical and rational reasonings to the existence of god.We believe in the bible , but however differ because of the falsifications and tapering’s with the scripture.Not only that but the fact that you believe , that he died on the cross and that he was the son of god/god , and applied the trinity(man made) to back this up.You as a Christian cannot prove gods existence because it’s just too contradicting , the whole idea of trinity is man made and contradictions can be found in the bible against it.Thats my paragraph.I hope your not blindly following your faith and research it in depth , when the trinity was applied , why there’s over 60+ different bibles etc..Atheist will ask you questions you can’t prove using your scripture.Actually , you can prove to an atheist gods existence through philosophy , ontology etc.The Quran states one of the reasons you made Jesus (peace be upon him) your god , is due to his miracles , but if you read this verse(I can’t remember) you’ll see allah(god) is saying that it’s was through HIS will he was able to do these like raising the dead , healing the leapers etc can you see our perspective.
He explained it very well without offending any other religion. Mad respect for Mr. NDT
I as a christian loved to listen to this explanation because even though i know he didn't really get the definition of an all good god in christianity, you can see that he had some thoughts at least and is open
He didn't sayed a single smart thing his arguments are childlike
@@xeeezyx What do you mean that "he didn't really get the definition of an all good god"?
@@trevormoran6158 His perspective is off, he looks at God from a limited perspective. He is looking at the whole universe as a man who does not even take up 0.000001% of the universe, so how could he know until someone explains it to him. God is all good and what he is saying is in essence is, "how could a good god let bad things happen?" We need to remember that the "natural causes" that cause pain and suffering are not natural at all. Remember, God made everything perfect except for us, we are the ones who caused there to be a curse on this earth it was us who brought sin into an otherwise sinless world. Pain and suffering are caused by both the curse on this planet and the sin of man. Which brings me back to the question, "How could a good god let bad things happen?" The answer is both simple and complex, the simple part is that God is good but he is also just. The curse is an effect of sin you could say a judgment of sorts, a good judge would not want to see people in pain, but a just judge would want to see justice being served. This is why God allows this suffering. We see things from a limited perspective, kind of like a baby who does not understand why they cannot play with a knife. We are like babies who do not know much and God is the one who made everything and who knows more than we do. Also, sometimes suffering is necessary because some metals cannot get stronger until it goes through fire and a sword cannot be made unless the metal is beaten with a hammer.
@@markramirez7543 very well said!!!!!
Just go with the flow as my grandfather used to say.
Yoooo this guy's COOKINN!!
He brought up the same questions and thoughts and feelings that I had scratching in my brain from the inside out my whole life!
He really filled me with satisfaction that there Are some people who thinks and feels as I do And there are some in the comments as well. Thank you everyone and I LOVE YOU GUYS
That lady has the most distressing stare I've ever seen
I will see her in my nightmares
@@caffiend.9761 lmgdao
I watched it a second time because it was so funny. Lmfao.
because it clouds her delusion of a super being
Like she could devour him, I see hate in her, she's triggered, someone talks against his precious God
I love the way he didnt disrespect the ppl who have faith in god and also the interviewer didnt interrupt him
je thats pog-w-
Ikr. Too many athiests these days trying to force and rub on people's faces what isnt real. Religion is religion.. its all what you believe in.
@@mcale8384 Yeah that's true. I think it's unlikely that there is a god but I don't have a problem with people who believe that there is.
In my opinion if you are a good person it doesn't matter if you believe in god or not.
@Jason Rutkoski you get into heaven in your way, your way being the path that god has sent for you. Follow his word, follow his teachings, and live the life that is best for you
@@mgk5856 you can't be a good person and believe in a god... that's a contradiction.
reasonable, respectful and is open to new ideas. I can get behind that.
Neither is there a shortage of religions and Gods in this world, nor is there plenty of good in it.
The title isn't lying, on God, it's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Lol
i only clicked the video to see if someone commented this xD
Super underrated
I was having a bad day. Now I'm not hahahaha
on god?
"What I believe should be irrelevant to anyone. It's not about me. It's about the real world." Neil deGrasse Tyson on God
Underrated comment 💯 he’s such a respectable guy for those last words
Lol once it's irrelevant to anyone and once it's about real one. That's one example how atheists contradict their arguments.
I letterly read this when he said it
EPIC.
Our beliefs , the rational ones that are with evidence and the little superstitious ones without evidence, are relevant to both ourselves and everyone around us, for we every moving second push them towards others knowingly or unknowingly. You will see what I mean if you are in India more obviously. There is superstitions in every step of the way you turn to, got bombarded with visuals of rituals of how to respond if a person sneezes or a cat crosses your path or you see a person from a certain caste comes by. No country is spared of these kinds of beliefs. What I came to see in my faith is that a person is blessed by the presence of God when the very idea of God himself wipes off all the other millions and millions of beliefs in that person's system. And the faith make a person ever more sensible in his way of life and the way he responds to his fellow beings. As for talking about real world, I am of the opinion that we are far less equipped than a baby to sense and see the so called real world. There is an entirely different world when we come to a state when rationality no longer helps and extreme struggles, like disasters in both personal life and on a social scale, makes some people see through the membrane we are all covered in since from our birth.
@@rajamohammed8683 religions are false...god may or may not exist
You gotta love Neil. He thinks of everything. It’s hard to believe this whole thing is coincidence until you consider the vastness of the universe.
“They” sent “her” because of his collective intellectual influence amongst the youth
“They” are watching “him”
I am Christian, and even I don't think there is a critizism in this. I mean he wants evidence, that's fair. So I give credit to those you didn't give hurtful comments to anyone at all.
Im with u but his statement on tragedy is ridiculous because god has released both famine and disease and is stated to flood the earth.
@@isaiahwilson4729 Which makes him pretty much a mass murderer on this logic, I don't want to kiss a dictator buttcheeks only in the off chance I get to a wonderful eternal land of more buttcheeks kissing
No offense, just my logical reasoning
I saw a car wrecked on the side of the road. It was a Ford. There was much destruction, it was on fire, seeming chaos, and the people within lay dead. Some fanatic came up, claiming the vehicle was built by Ford Motor Company. I highly doubt that. The vehicle came about by random chance and endless combinations of metallic parts. I mean, if there really is a Ford Motor Company, one would expect them to build cars that work and are not smashed or on fire! I just don't see any evidence for such a benevolent Company. This crazy fanatic next to me *claimed* that the Company built the care just right, but that later the owner misused it, which led to the destruction. I then asked, "Then why doesn't the Company just force all drivers to do exactly what the Company wants?" He then said I would be complaining about the Company being tyrannical, if it did that. What an idiot! I think every scientific, free thinking, rational mind knows there is no such Company as Ford Motor Company. I am totally willing to accept it, if there is such a Company, but I do not see ANY evidence for it. What? The Ford logo? Well, again, that is just chance. Randomness that uneducated people see as creation and order and design? What? Ford logos on the leather and interior and under the hood? Again, wonderful accident. The beauty of randomness.
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"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” Romans 3:19-20
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:9-10
@@BaptistJoshua Wait wait wait: how do you know a Ford isn't a natural thing? How can you rule this option out?
@@BaptistJoshua I always use a watch as an example but this is fine
He handled that question with a ton of class, a lot of people who have questions about religion have a terrible way of demeaning people. Very impressed by his response
While I agree with you 100%, you also have to understand that these people are tired of being told that they'll burn in agonizing torment for all eternity for the sin of thought crime. They're demeaning behavior can be often more than justified.
@Mac Loud Actually that does more or less make it okay nor dies it make it an invalid argument
@@ryangoepfert9112 Did you just use nor correctly? How.
@@dwightk.schrute6743 IDENTITY THEFT IS A CRIME.
I usually lie and act like I have faith or be forthcoming and just say the concept of a God makes no sense.
He's articulating what's called 'the argument from evil'. It's not new, but it's very compelling. If God is all loving, why does He allow such suffering? If He does, why should we worship him?
Very compelling. That and the argument from "Divine hiddeness"
Why would an all powerful being choose to be invisible and controversial.
The issue is what do we constitute as suffering. Crying is suffering but we can all agree it’s not that bad for us and can be meaningful but cancer is the other extreme. But what is “such” suffering where do we draw the line on when the suffering is too much suffering. This is why we can’t even ask why would he allow such suffering when there is no standard on what suffering is enough, this gets into objective moral suffering and this gets into another loop hole which falls apart even more, why does objective suffering exist.
Just like math faces the point of non boundary explanation ( big bang/God )
These concepts reach the point beyond the natural world of explanation (God, contradiction )
100% agree with him!
He fails no one said god is all good god created everything including death and despair its just we cant understandhis ways we are just the children
Its easy to tell tat the interviewer is not a science fan lol
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Funny how the historical scientists mentioned by non believing scientists all believed in God
Science has nothing to do with "disproving god"
@@crimsonnite9291 True experiments proves God's existence.
@ACook Geaux Roos I’d very much like to see those.
Most religious people are not fond of science. A lot of them hate science.
As a Christian, I love his answer and have the upmost respect for him. He doesn't believe in God. But does not rule out that God might be proven correct one day. In science, everything is a possibility until it is proven not to be. So, thanks, Neil.
The universe is almost an endless room, with that in mind it's much more difficult to prove that god doesn't exist than the other way around. Same thing with aliens, planets etc.
If God is supernatural, there is no way science can prove it, or disprove it
@3KBS Channel Because supernatural is belief and science does not investigate belief
3KBS Channel the spaghetti monster is supernatural by definition, can science prove it doesn’t exist?
You invent something that cannot be proven because of how you describe it then ask scientists to prove it doesn’t exist 🙄
You can’t prove it doesn’t exist but you can point out it doesn’t make any sense.
As long as you're the same, believe in God sure.. but accept that he could (and most likely will be) proven wrong. The issue tho with believing in God is his 'rules' are inhumane and idiotic soo.
I can't believe how my opinion changed completely on this issue over the course of a year
Whether to believe or not in God is something personal and shouldn't be an issue for others. The point is, people think they believe in God but does not follow God's teachings unlike those that doubt his existence yet does more good in the world despite not knowing the word of God.
When I interviewed for my last job, the interviewer asked me about my education. I said, "I was working towards my PhD but I didn't quite complete it". The interviewer said, "Oh? How far did you get"? I said, "About the 10th grade".
Keep going you got this lol
Outstanding!
Legend!
That lady deep down wanted to ask him “do you believe in satan ?”
@Ivan umm no
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@Ivan ikr like he believes in evil
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@Ivan how would someone believe in Satan if they don't believe in God, when Satan was made by God?
The late Joseph Tafero wrote an acclaimed play on this subject called “The Defense” (Amazon Books) several years ago, which highlights a potential PHD’s Doctoral Dissertation Defense at Columbia University. The Committee reviews his contention that all gods and religions are doomed to eventual disappearance in a few hundred years time. The final scene is an eye-opener.
This is gold
The interviewer looks at Neil as if though he's the anti-christ himself when explaining his views lmao.
GZA he is bra he promotes fake propaganda garbage wake up bro
Sonelezz 00 such as? How does one promote ”fake” propaganda, it’s not propaganda at all?
He is.
@@onthetoilet8397 How.
@@tardigradesarecool because he makes money of theories. Theories = Lies = Sin = Devil and he's has multiple theories that are not based on facts.
At the end He should have said “an that’s on god fam” *mic drop*
😂🤣
Obama,Neil,MLK's class don't speak like ok "FAM" 😏🤣
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gay asf
No cap 😂
Someone can be all powerful and all good, if that person has full authority over everything. God helps us decide what to do with His will. Most people ignore its construct but we (Christians) travel in the light of His orders. Free will is the beauty of God because true love which comes from a pure heart is not forced but recommended.
"The Creator is either not all powerful or not all good" ... In my opinion, more than half of the things mentioned, from viruses to earthquakes are done by our own hands and brains. We could see that the weather can be easily controlled, and as Israel president said "We got good tehnology and the skies got eyes so we see you".
He gave us free will of choice... but the problem is when some bad intended people limit or control somebody else's free will of choice.
Regardless of the povs or ideologies, this man is so nice and he is good at explaining things and he also got cool povs.
Reporter: "Do you believe in God?"
Neil: "No evidence"
Reporter: 👁👁
Truuuee
The evidence is coded in the Bible...
...or God must of been a lucky God to know there are 7 days in a week 4000 years ago...
DUH...
And God doesn't just throw any number atya. Numbers have purpose. Our Solar System is coded in Genesis Chapter 5.
The number 365 is mentioned here in relation to how many days we have in a year.
Before NOAH there are actually nine characters mention here that denote the nine celestial bodies.
6 out of 9 have a total life span of 900-999 years, again to confirm the nine planets, (with Pluto)
3 donot, to mark the position of Earth with Enoch living only 365!
777 very lucky God.
@@richardcastaneda8318 The Bible isn't evidence, it's a fiction.Also, words are easily corruptible, meaning if you were to take any book and wait 200 years you can almost guarantee there are going to be changes to how it's written and changes to plot. The Bible is just like any book, it'll change in time as well.
A lot of Christians are ALREADY claiming "The Bible never said being is a sin" because science found that being homosexual is not a choice but is decided by genetics & hormonal balances, meaning you can be born or grown up to be gay/bi. You can't 'choose' to be attracted to someone, it's just a balance of hormones making you feel the sensation of attraction & pleasure. I'm sure in 100 years, all Christians will not be homosexual, just like how Christians used to be very racist & xenophobic and put anyone who wasn't white into slavery but now it's negatively, less of them are these things. If you don't believe me, look this stuff up. I'm sure you will find it, unlike the existence of Jesus.
There is a probability that there could be a creator of everything that is everything but it is definitely not Jesus Christ. Also churches, communities, and traditions of Christianity or any religion are also not proof, for real evidence shouldn't need these things to prove it's velidity, it should just be a fact like the sky is blue and water is made up of H2O.
If you were to burn every book that was religious and every book that was scientific, only science would come back because you are ACTUALLY able to prove these things, unlike religion, which enforces you to believe what it says and shuns you for questioning it. Evidence should be able to be questioned or there's probably something it's hiding if you were told not to question it. While religion thrives on ignorance & weak people, science flourishes in knowledge & hard work.
@@richardcastaneda8318 I'm pretty sure the world is not 4000 years old.
"That's why it's called faith, otherwise we would've called all religions evidence."
Jeez he was just giving a definition calm down
Explain?
@Liam Aetolp that's a lie. You people want to take him down because he's black.
Wow, way to bring race into this
@Brendon Lima explain then. What about human action caused these natural events to occur?
@startalk NDT- I’ve been studying the Book of Mormon this week. And when I watched this video it stood out to me that if you read and studied the book of Jacob, Chapter 5, you would have your evidence the God exists. ❤ it is a notoriously hard chapter to understand, but when you do, the love and wisdom and hope of God shines forth!
Just got him self kicked out of 90% of all barbecues.
No not really, 90% of people are not extremist christians.
@@ChristopherGray00 he’s talking about black people bbq. Must black people are christians
Berlensky My life’s a movie thank you
@@bmylifesamovie6915 not true
Why?
Niel degoat tyson speaking mad facts, he is speaking on behalf of all atheists
I could listen to him all day long. Genius
Bruh she looks like she doesn't even know where she is at the moment like she's having a internal panic attack.
Didn't know there were any external panic attacks🤣🤣🤣🤣 jk
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As soon as I read this comment I looked back up and the camera pointed at her 😂 0:52
Why are we all getting recommended this to us within the last day lol
You still on your binge for the night?
ohh yea:))
Jesus love you.
So weird right
Why question those equally effected? The answer should be posed to the people providing the content not those consuming it.
HE is all powerful. His intentions were a utopia but because we sinned, we got natural disasters, earthquakes etc.
I see: 2 people who never even existed ate an apple - and now generation after generation after generation, billions of people (and even animals) have to suffer.
But he loves us 🤣🤦♂
I had a Mexican girlfriend once who had a very interesting thought about this. Yes, she did believed in God, but she said, that 'hell' is something we are already IN. Here on Earth. All the miseries that Neill describes are all elements of 'hell'. Once we die we served our time in 'hell' and everybody moves on to heaven. So that was her point of view. I found it interesting, and even more logical than the opposite thought about Earth being paradise and that based on our actions it will be determined that you go either to heaven or hell. There are two things not quite right about that thought: First: young children or even unborn babies, who die prematurely. Did they had the change to do something good? Not really. Second: If Earth is a paradise (which it is not really), then the penalty being in torment forever in hell does not even come close to what God actually represents. How could He inflict that on any human, who lives 70 maybe 80 years on this planet and then by their actions be punished for an eternity? That's not likely. Hence I found the Mexican girl her thought pretty interesting.
That makes god seem like an even more like a giant evil asshole. So, from birth, I am forced to live in a prison of suffering so I can get into heaven when I die and hang out with the abusive entity that tortured me for the first part of my eternity. No thank you, I wouldn't even want to be near something like that. Yuck
I'll say not based on the bible at all .
The earth is not paradise nor is it hell, it's just a place where we live. You can think of Earth as a kind of rehabilitation center, we are all sinners by birth. In Earth we can decide to either do good or do bad, in which those decisions will decide where we end up after life
''I don't want to believe, I want to know'' - Carl Sagan.
powerful lmfao
yes
Starts with believing, believing that within you lies the answers. The believing becomes knowledge.
Be patient, after your death you will know...
@@ivanz6368 duh
“What I think should be irrelevant to anyone” man let it sink in. Cuz if we can really apply that to our life’s I think we would have less stress that we gotta deal with
L9l
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Plot twist: nobody cares regardless
He is absolutely right
If believing what isTRUE matters, faith is NOT a RELIABLE way to find TRUTH
"We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure"
Al Quran - 2.155
"What I *believe* should be irrelevant to anyone. It's not about me. It's about the real world."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson 2017
Scott K - Begs the question "what is the real world"? Since Neil has never been to the universe nor has anyone else, all their talk is nonsense. How can you speak about Peru objectively if you've never been there? So why not simply say, 'I HATE GOD.' That makes more sense than tossing the explosion/evolution salad. Neither have a shred of proof.
Just because you are unaware of the proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Agreed, I guess? I was replying to DJ ;)
DJ THE SHOOTER - Getting the strong impression you don't know what universe means. We've all been there. We're actually all there right now. Crazy, I know.
DJ THE SHOOTER - You didn't listen to a word the man said. You're stuck in an echo chamber of straw-man arguments. He never said he doesn't believe in god because we have "proof" of other theories. He never even mentioned the big bang or evolution. He said he doesn't believe in god because there is no evidence of god. Pretty simple concept.
that's a very logical way of explaining it and at the same time precise enough to not be an attack. definitely well said.
Attack? How would not believing in God be an "attack" anyway.
Hmm yes according to my technical research you are a fanboy.
Yeah, we heard that before "God is EVIL!", if he stepped out of his science bubble he'll see that the concept of God doesn't contradict the malevolence of the world. it would've been better if he just said there's not enough evidence
His way of saying No 😂
It's not logical at all. Saying God should make everything on Earth perfect is very stupid.
Well said
Love this so much!
Man would I love to just chill with this guy and talk about the philosophies of life together
if that took place neither one of you would get a word in edge wise - :)
@@paulcompme856 ua-cam.com/video/16sGikAWZu8/v-deo.html
I don't think he's into philosophy sadly
Buddy you wouldn’t get a single word in
@@jair_rey2494 Interesting
I read the title as “Neil deGrasse Tyson is god”
Why u think so?
*Plot twist: he is, that's why he's so smart and he's trying not to reveal more science than we already know.*
That's because he is ....duh
He might be. He is featured on Logics studio album Everybody where he's the voice of God in the skits
At least we can confirm Tyson exist
Even if you brought this man evidence he’d deny it, it’s his heart that doesn’t want to except
You're projecting so hard right now.
But even if what you said was true, thats not a good excuse to not provide your evidence. Provide it and make people dismiss it, then you've won. Saying "I won't provide it because you wont believe it anyway" is very easy to dismiss as a lie.
Cosmological argument, go search it up. God exists, and one day He will judge EVERYONE@@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King
@@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_Kingit’s dealing with the way he answers. “Why would God allow such suffering?” Let’s say God did exist and was infront of him Neil may accept God exists but he wouldn’t accept him knowing suffering exist. It’s true Neil would acknowledge God if he was real but would not accept God as his ruler. Which means deep down he doesn’t want it to be true if it was
He's had a good life so far.....eagerly waiting for the next video discussion with him speaking on the same subject......
Honestly I am really religious and Niel Degrasse Tyson is my hero, he doesn't care about arguing about religion he just likes the universe and science. I think that's pretty cool
Exactly he’s just a cool fun guy. He understands that people are religious, and accepts that, he doesn’t throw a hissy fit at the mention of God. And on top of that he’s agnostic and pretty much all agnostics are chill ppl.
Just like God, He is a nice guy and will understando you and save you no matter what you are doing. Everyone is cool LOL man
God is real John 3:16-17 we are living in God's awesome Creation
God has nothing to do with religion. Religion is horsecrap.
@Kitalia the kitsune wow! Did God gave that definition?
who-else read the title as "Neil deGrasse Tyson, ON GOD."
What do you mean?
@@joecoylemusic6852 lol you're too young to be on UA-cam
😂😂yes
Yes😂😂🙏🏻💯
@@Kite-ju7bd I'm 20 and I don't get it.
My opinion means nothing in the face of those who do not believe in faith. I will simply say he has a very logical way of looking at this.
True..i too think the same
Now that's the best explanation I've ever heard! Believing and knowing are not the same
His perspective is off, he looks at God from a limited perspective. He is looking at the whole universe as a man who does not even take up 0.000001% of the universe, so how could he know until someone explains it to him. God is all good and what he is saying is in essence is, "how could a good god let bad things happen?" We need to remember that the "natural causes" that cause pain and suffering are not natural at all. Remember, God made everything perfect except for us, we are the ones who caused there to be a curse on this earth it was us who brought sin into an otherwise sinless world. Pain and suffering are caused by both the curse on this planet and the sin of man. Which brings me back to the question, "How could a good god let bad things happen?" The answer is both simple and complex, the simple part is that God is good but he is also just. The curse is an effect of sin you could say a judgment of sorts, a good judge would not want to see people in pain, but a just judge would want to see justice being served. This is why God allows this suffering. We see things from a limited perspective, kind of like a baby who does not understand why they cannot play with a knife. We are like babies who do not know much and God is the one who made everything and who knows more than we do. Also, sometimes suffering is necessary because some metals cannot get stronger until it goes through fire and a sword cannot be made unless the metal is beaten with a hammer.
@@markramirez7543 Yes, Tyson looks at God from the limited perspective of science. Science is based on the best proof available at this time. All of what you say is true.. to your beliefs. But they are not provable facts. Thats why he makes the clear distinction between scientific evidence and faith. Each has their own respective value and limitations.
@@jockoadams3377 Of course God and science interlock
@@markramirez7543 if we're made imperfect, who's fault is that?
You keep copying and pasting this comment as if you actually made sort of good point.
Your argument can be boiled down to: God exist but is too complex to understand therefore theres no use to question God.
This argument is bunk. Nor does it give an answer for suffering.
The other day I heard of a story of a man raping a 1 year old child.
How can God sit in the comfort of his throne and watch this happen having the power to stop it but doing nothing?
If you had the power to stop this yet didn't you'd be considered evil. Yet in your cognitive dissonance you provide an absolution for God, and you cop out of giving an efficient response by saying to not question it because its "God." You're ridiculous.
Clearly a being able to prevent suffering yet allows it by definition is evil.
And as for your argument God allows evil so his justice may be displayed, why is it an all powerful God needs babies to be raped so he can be seen as righteous? And to intentionally create such evil just for your own glories sake? That sounds even more evil.
I'm a Christian and honestly I like the way he answered the question. It was a very respectful way that he gave his view and I really respect that of him.
Yes, I think that too.
Yes whenever you look at it from Niels view here it’s inevitable you come to the same conclusion he has in the video. However when he mentions a man with a grey beard I think that’s the problem. God isn’t that. God is everything and nothing, the plants in our garden and the president of our country. God is happiness we that gets us through the week and sadness that brings us down. The fact that we are allowed to experience life is enough proof of God. And on the topic of god being all good, well I don’t think that is reffering to what Neil talks about here such as disasters, I think that’s more reflective of the world we live in being all good, and the disasters can be attributed to just the cycle of life. When we watch a lion maul and eat an antelope we don’t think of that as good or bad, we just see it as life, as God.
@@goofyboi1505 Neil would disagree with you, as do I. Sure, if anyone looked at it from your perspective they might come to your conclusion. But the problem is that... you have no evidence. What you refer to as "evidence enough" is nothing more than a statement of faith.
@@rmm3803 I didn’t really mean proof sorry. I was just trying to point out that what this existence is, is incredible. I don’t really believe in a traditional god that is worshipped or anything like that, I can just see how people can come to the conclusion that all of what we experience and don’t experience has a certain undeniable divinity to it, with an almost unlimited amount of processes happening at subatomic and universal scales all at once, all responsible for facilitating life, it makes you wonder what exactly is it that we are experiencing.
@@goofyboi1505 This perspective is legitimate, no need to apologize. However, the irony is that in this day and age there are more plausible theories than that of a Supreme Being explaining nature and the cosmos but we are so mired in centuries-old tradition that it is truly difficult, as a rule, to embrace new concepts and ideas as they become revealed to us by the progression of science. So, we deny them out of hand without even bothering to at least explore new possibilities. I'm not saying by any means that science explains it all but the fact that there are plausible alternatives to our current thinking should give pause to all who really think about these matters.
Digressing, I know, but quick question please. According to theology (of most if not all faiths) man is generally placed at the top of all creation, and is supposed to be favored by God, to rule and be master over all other creatures. How does this comport with the now acknowledged existence of phenomena in our airspace that appears to have incredible abilities, far beyond anything mankind can even conceive of? Assuming (as I suspect will ultimately be the case) that these objects are the creations of sentient beings, how can we possibly be the masters of such creatures and where does that leave faith-based teachings? No wrong answers, I'm just curious on your take.