Amen to that. I think they use a butt-load of 992 buses to be able to have more paychecks of MTA drivers to tax TF out of. One trolley driver with 3 cars of 40 riders is too efficient for the already over-staffed MTA.
That airport needs to move, maybe somewehere in East County! Its literally the busiest single runway airport in the world, and has no more space to expand.
@@flipsolo It is not going to happen. They tried many times, Palomar being obvious choice, instead they just expanded it to maximum. San Diego will not see airport moving in observable future even though it is single busiest single runway airport in the country.
@@kyletopfer7818 Yes first stage of CA HSR should've been SD to LA. Would've fixed the issue with track on crumbling bluffs as well. Instead of.. what is it not? Modesto? And not built yet. So disappointing.
@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 Yeah, one every fifteen minutes each way that is always packed with travelers and luggage. Very packed, in my experience.
They need a line that goes to Rancho Bernardo...probably run it up the 15...you'll touch Mira Mesa,Scripps Ranch, Poway, Carmel Mountain, Rancho Penasquitos then Rancho Bernardo...would be a great line
@@tbone3972 thanks for the info. The companies you mentioned and the MTS should work together to bring commuter train service to the areas I mentioned.
@@boyasia5874 2 things 1. Like T bone said, north county already has NCTD and making a trolley to Escondido would be a waste of money since the sprinter goes there already 2. A line to Temecula wouldn’t be too bad. But the downside is Temecula is in Riverside county. And MTS only operates in San Diego county.
That was the proposal, so maybe in 2050 if not sooner. I’m waiting to see where that UTC extension line leads to. I heard it’s going to be a purple line to Mira Mesa.
So many spot in the unincorporated areas that don’t have trolleys like spring valley, Eastlake, Clairemont, and fashion valley north etc. Eliminate the long bus rides so it’s more functional for public transportation commuters.
I was not confused until you showed us the second track and told us that MTS is adding a third track? You should have explained why do we need the third track when there are already two tracks. Make better reports please.
So California riders would be entrapped several feet in the air every time the tram went into emergency stop during the thousands of minor 2.0-4.0 magnitude tremors each year.
Oy! I noticed it was day time hours and the trolley was not only fairly seamless, it was not being utilized to even 25% capacity. If there's "congestion", it means there are too many trollies in service and therefor drivers and heavy-handed transit cops who always travel in pairs so that there seems to be more MTA employees aboard than riders at times like what is evident on this report. No wonder MTA keeps raising fares, screwing the elderly by raising minimum age for senior rider rates and harassing riders with imposing "where's your pass?" stop & frisk by transit cops of the traveling public while you are standing while the trolley is moving, forcing you to let go of the rail to produce your tribute to the MTA gangsters. The fact that each platform has transit cops that can assure full pass compliance means that the MTA intentionally traps homeless people trying to ride free onto a moving trolley with locked doors where the offender is left with no choice but to accept MTA extortion fines to drive the bloated over-staffed budget.
Add a real security system like deputies to the train cars and platforms. Fix stations that historically flood. Have ticket checkers frequent more Then think about adding a line
Ignorant comment by someone who obviously does not travel on the MTA trolley system and notice all the transit cops, pass verification agents and plentiful swipe and ride pass activation stations on every platform. You must be commenting from St Louis where all your complaints are valid.
The San Andreas Fault and all it's resultant lateral fault lines and the thousands of 2.0 - 4.0 earthquakes precludes use of trams that would entrap riders in the air everytime the tram went into emergency stop with every minor tremor.
@@dustup2249 "thousands of 2.0 - 4.0 earthquakes" - that's definitely a lie to make a fake point. Europe or Japan also have earthquakes and it's a non-issue, tons of metal does not "fly"
What a complete waste of fuckin money. Let's make a line for a place we already have trolleys going. Like bruh wtf is this bullshit. I HATE THE MTS WITH A PASSION. instead of making. Line that connects Chula vista to Eastlake. Otay mesa to San Ysidro. Eastlake to Santee. But nookk what do they do? Make something that we ALREADY HAVE.
It costs them basically nothing to do this (they just have to make new signs for the copper line) and it will save mts a lot of money. MTS wants to increase green line frequency but they can't do that if it's running on a single tracked portion. Honestly they should have just double tracked the entire line when they first built it and gotten it right the first time, but that's what happens when you build tracks in the middle of the street I guess.
At least get a track that goes to the airport damnit
Amen to that. I think they use a butt-load of 992 buses to be able to have more paychecks of MTA drivers to tax TF out of. One trolley driver with 3 cars of 40 riders is too efficient for the already over-staffed MTA.
That airport needs to move, maybe somewehere in East County! Its literally the busiest single runway airport in the world, and has no more space to expand.
@@flipsolo It is not going to happen. They tried many times, Palomar being obvious choice, instead they just expanded it to maximum. San Diego will not see airport moving in observable future even though it is single busiest single runway airport in the country.
@@SirXenaul The better option is to get the damn HSR to LA built, then people have the option of a quick trip to use LAX or Burbank.
@@kyletopfer7818 Yes first stage of CA HSR should've been SD to LA. Would've fixed the issue with track on crumbling bluffs as well. Instead of.. what is it not? Modesto? And not built yet. So disappointing.
Nice report. If I may offer one suggestion: a map showing the change.
there is one on the sdmts website. basically the green line will turn into the copper line from santee to el cajon stations
How about proposing the line from San Diego train station to the airport
the 992 bus?
Theres already a flyer bus and 992 bus for that.
@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 no way, I didn’t know that
It’s in the planning stage.
@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 Yeah, one every fifteen minutes each way that is always packed with travelers and luggage. Very packed, in my experience.
So it's going to use the same track, basically, and people will have to transfer to it in El Cajon?
yes so that green line can be more frequent
Correct!
They need a line that goes to Rancho Bernardo...probably run it up the 15...you'll touch Mira Mesa,Scripps Ranch, Poway, Carmel Mountain, Rancho Penasquitos then Rancho Bernardo...would be a great line
How about extending the rail line from UTC to I- 15 which will serve the communities of North county to Escondido and to Temecula.
That portion of the line belongs to NCTD Coaster & the BRT route 235 already serves north county.
@@tbone3972 thanks for the info. The companies you mentioned and the MTS should work together to bring commuter train service to the areas I mentioned.
I agree. There are missing links between the rapid transit lines that force riders to ride longer to back track.
@@boyasia5874 2 things
1. Like T bone said, north county already has NCTD and making a trolley to Escondido would be a waste of money since the sprinter goes there already
2. A line to Temecula wouldn’t be too bad. But the downside is Temecula is in Riverside county. And MTS only operates in San Diego county.
@@redxgaming6645 I believe RTA used to operate an express service from southern Riverside Co to Escondido but that got scrapped due to the pandemic.
That was the proposal, so maybe in 2050 if not sooner. I’m waiting to see where that UTC extension line leads to. I heard it’s going to be a purple line to Mira Mesa.
But the purple line would go along the 805
@@BDawg-zt2cu i believe thats phase 1-2 and then mira mesa is after that
So many spot in the unincorporated areas that don’t have trolleys like spring valley, Eastlake, Clairemont, and fashion valley north etc. Eliminate the long bus rides so it’s more functional for public transportation commuters.
How about along the 52freeway from east county to Mira mesa then to UCSD
I don't get this. There are two tracks at the Santee station, why can't one trolley just come in and then have the other one leave?
Not enough foot traffic like they have at the San Ysidro Border.
There’s only one track entering from Gillespie to Santee.
I was not confused until you showed us the second track and told us that MTS is adding a third track? You should have explained why do we need the third track when there are already two tracks. Make better reports please.
why would we need that lol
So California riders would be entrapped several feet in the air every time the tram went into emergency stop during the thousands of minor 2.0-4.0 magnitude tremors each year.
Oy! I noticed it was day time hours and the trolley was not only fairly seamless, it was not being utilized to even 25% capacity.
If there's "congestion", it means there are too many trollies in service and therefor drivers and heavy-handed transit cops who always travel in pairs so that there seems to be more MTA employees aboard than riders at times like what is evident on this report.
No wonder MTA keeps raising fares, screwing the elderly by raising minimum age for senior rider rates and harassing riders with imposing "where's your pass?" stop & frisk by transit cops of the traveling public while you are standing while the trolley is moving, forcing you to let go of the rail to produce your tribute to the MTA gangsters.
The fact that each platform has transit cops that can assure full pass compliance means that the MTA intentionally traps homeless people trying to ride free onto a moving trolley with locked doors where the offender is left with no choice but to accept MTA extortion fines to drive the bloated over-staffed budget.
hey man you’re talking about the wrong city
It's not congestion, it's corruption.
@@ArtOg-pt4jm it’s not tho
Add a real security system like deputies to the train cars and platforms.
Fix stations that historically flood.
Have ticket checkers frequent more
Then think about adding a line
Ignorant comment by someone who obviously does not travel on the MTA trolley system and notice all the transit cops, pass verification agents and plentiful swipe and ride pass activation stations on every platform.
You must be commenting from St Louis where all your complaints are valid.
How much will it cost tax payers?
“Trolley system” - I thought the Americans are finally getting some trams in their cities but nope, it’s just a train.
You are making no sense.
The San Andreas Fault and all it's resultant lateral fault lines and the thousands of 2.0 - 4.0 earthquakes precludes use of trams that would entrap riders in the air everytime the tram went into emergency stop with every minor tremor.
@@dustup2249 in the "air"? trams/streetcars run on the streets...
@@dustup2249 "thousands of 2.0 - 4.0 earthquakes" - that's definitely a lie to make a fake point. Europe or Japan also have earthquakes and it's a non-issue, tons of metal does not "fly"
What a complete waste of fuckin money. Let's make a line for a place we already have trolleys going. Like bruh wtf is this bullshit. I HATE THE MTS WITH A PASSION. instead of making. Line that connects Chula vista to Eastlake. Otay mesa to San Ysidro. Eastlake to Santee. But nookk what do they do? Make something that we ALREADY HAVE.
It costs them basically nothing to do this (they just have to make new signs for the copper line) and it will save mts a lot of money. MTS wants to increase green line frequency but they can't do that if it's running on a single tracked portion. Honestly they should have just double tracked the entire line when they first built it and gotten it right the first time, but that's what happens when you build tracks in the middle of the street I guess.
@willmorris8198 it cost then nothing it says it cost a million dollars for this wtf are you even talking about.