Canon AE-1 Program or Minolta X-700 - why the Canon wins
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2020
- The Canon AE-1 Program and Minolta X-700 are both very capable 35mm film cameras with a lot of great features. But there are differences, so I'm going to go over the the similarities and differences between these cameras to see which one is better fit for what you need.
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I have used both of these. Even as a long-term Canon manual focus users, I would pick X700 for 2 superior features which make capturing great photos faster and easier. The X700's exp lock button is so intuitive and quick to use vs the AE1P's which is slow and awkward. Second is the far more contrasty microprism collar on the x700 screen which makes manual focus a cinch and dare I say satisfying. The latter was a revelation after using A-1/T70/T90 for years. Additionally, availability of aperture priority on X700 gives you more control over look of the photos vs AE1P's shutter priority or program mode.
Well said. I didn't think about the microprism contrast but you are right that is a big plus. If it wasn't for the capacitor issue and poor low light performance it wouldn't even be a question. I think I have 3 x-700 bodies that all need new capacitors. I still prefer the X-700 though for the above reasons you mentioned.
Keep up the great videos on spreading the joy of film photography and using using these great bodies! When I open up a film body for diy repair, I marvel at the amount of clever design and man hours of labor gone into creating and manufacturing them.
@@soulbronumberone it really is impressive. so many gears, levers and springs for each individual function . Thanks! will do.
Minolta focusing screens had been one of the top selling points of it’s camera.
@@graham_white Just an FYI - the X-300 and X-700 had inferior capacitors vs. the X--500 and X-570. The most common reason for failure in the electronics is because of the capacitors. The very early serial numbers (1st year) of the X-700s had good caps, but it's hard to tell exactly when they swapped.
I have both, minolta wins due to the quality and price of lenses. I have shot some quality photos with the ae1, but its dummy proof. Ae1 is a better consumer camera.
Agreed.
Just got a X-700 along with a few lenses for $100, I JUST shot my first ever roll on my Nikon FM2 I got in a barn for free so I’ve decided I want to learn how to shoot film. I loaded up the X-700 with portra 400 and I’m gonna try the P mode to see how I like it. I’m going to a nostalgic dragrace so I think I’ll enjoy it
thanks for the comment. im a new to film and deciding between these two rn and i have to say I need a dummy proof one XD. i wanna take it with me on vacation and dont wanna have to think about it too much. so guess im going with the Ae1
The quality of your videos is insane! Absolutely love the coloring! Keep doing what you‘re doing :)
Thanks! Will do
Sorry Graham but you are so delightfully wrong :-) Trust your heart in future... I had the X700 camera back in 1988 and is it still so far one of the best cameras I've had. As for program mode, you use an MD lens with an MD lever added, which allows the reading of the smallest available aperture, often referred to as MD mount. Lenses are labelled MD Rokkor or MD. The lens you used in the video appears to be an MC mount without the lever, and that's why you couldn't use the full Program mode... Trust me, I'm a veteran of the 80's lol... Hopefully, this will swing you back to use your heart and senses and agree that the X700 is better than the AE-1... Also worth noting is that the shutter button is touch sensitive causing the LEED to come straight on, without ned for pressing halfway. You know you want to. Honestly, the battery on the AE-1... Jesus wept.. :-) I'm deaf and wear hearing aids, so in the 80's the batteries for my hearing aids fitted the X700, so I was never without :-) . Worth noting this camera is great for exposing film negative, but the metering is not so good with slide film which is more sensitive. Nice video, thank you.
I will have to check my lenses! Never realized that.
Is there a way to recalibrate the light meter in the x700??
I have one that shows way to low, like 6 stops.
1:12 You don't take off the top parts of the X-700 to change the focusing screens. There's a latch inside the lens mount that you press forward, and the focusing screen drops down. You then insert the replacement screen and push it upward until the latch locks it in place. It had to be done by an authorized repair shop, but when I ordered two different screens (grid and diagonal split field respectively) when the camera was in for repair anyway, they just returned the camera along with those two focusing screens. Minolta's Acute Matte focusing screens were so impressive that one hardly needed split field or microprisms to focus, even in poor light. Hasselblad had theirs made by Minolta.
I'm with the AE-1 Program, I find it intuative to use and the screen helps lots finding focus.
The focus screens are the same on both of I’m not mistaken. But yeah I can see how the ae-1 might be more user friendly
Thanks so much mate!! Just add a great time binge watching your videos!! Very clear, interesting and you’ve got an eye to catch great shots!! Keep up!! 🙌🏻
Thanks Jude! Appreciate the support.
I think the issue which you noticed with the Minolta is known as subject failure. The metering pattern will affect how the subject failure manifests itself and if you used either camera regularly in those conditions you would automatically be able to adjust the exposure settings. For a number of years I photographed rock groups using a Rolleiflex SL35ME, not a particularly great camera but I had a 85mm f1.4 Carl Zeiss lens for it. The f1.4 aperture made focusing easy in the venue. I was just use to adjusting the exposure suggested by the metering system without thinking. Had I changed to another camera, there would be a period of adjustment. So you found the AE1 meter needed less or no adjustment in the conditions you used it. That is fine but there will be other conditions where you would find the Minolta better. They are both very capable cameras, the more you use any camera, the better you will get. Personally, I really like the Rolleiflex SL35E which I think has the best ergonomics of any camera, pity too many of them were unreliable, poor build quality on the pc boards, and much that I hate to admit it, the Canon A1 is a great camera too. But even a humble Praktica Nova can turn in fantastic work, more effort and perhaps you have to bow to some limitations (no light meter, but neither does the standard Hasselblad C500 series lol). The main thing is to enjoy your photography no matter what camera you have.
I have a Canon Ae-1 program and for the focusing screen you can just pop it off and replace it by taking off your lenses and just pressing a tab that is almost concealed by the upper light seals
True. I have an A-1 with an upgraded screen. Pretty sure it’s the same mechanism
My first SLR camera was a Minolta XG-1. I learned to photograph with this camera, but soon I wanted Minolta's showpiece, the X-700, so that was a lot of savings at the time. How happy I was with that beautiful machine .... it is/was my first true great love. During a vacation in the US I bought a Minolta Motor Drive 1 and felt like a King!! People were stearing at me, when I took pictures. I felt like I was some kind of famous photographer :-) Well, then came the digital age and I bought a Dynax 7Xi...and sold my X-700 to my brother. Whenever I saw him walking around with that X-700, I felt certain jitters. I have now bought back my 3rd X-700. Haha, it remains my first great love.
Lol nice
Great content! Keep uploading!
Big hug from Portugal 🇵🇹
Thanks as always Miguel
Hi Graham! Love your channel. Recently got back into film and after a lot of research I settled for the X-700 for a lot of the reasons you pointed out. So although the AE-1 may technically look better on paper I personally just am drawn to the "character" of the Minolta! Congrats on your content and enjoying your channel throughly. Keep it up! Take care and keep safe. Greetings fron Vienna, Austria. 👍🏻
Thanks John! I agree on the Minolta. Will do.
agreed
You should try the XD11/XD7 or an X-500/X-570 or even an XD5. I love the XD series with their insane shutters. Even the XE series had better and faster shutters with a higher sync speed. The XE,XG, and XD series all had usable aperture priority modes and most (maybe all) had exposure comp as well. I think in some ways the X- series was a step backward. If I want a more automated or feature rich experience I grab my Maxxum 5 or a Sony digital.
Ya I’ve really wanted to try the XD12/7 for that exact reason.
Just found your channel, awesome videos!
thanks Benjamin! really appreciate it.
Been using the AE-1 since 1983. In fact, I'm doing a shoot with it tomorrow.
Nice. Old reliable for sure
They are both capable tools as you explained. Video is excellent. The run of photos was the cherry on top. Also sounds like the X-700 could use a service. There are two potentiometers that can be adjusted with a calibrated light source to fix any day time exposure issues. The night time exposure is best to comp on the exposure compensation dial set it at +2 and forget it for the night. ;-)
Thanks for the input Jack!
This helped so much thank you! I ended up getting the Minolta x-700. the price was right cause its not over-hyped and I prefer shooting aperture priority
Glad to hear Becki! The X-700 is great.
The A-1 has aperture priority and shutter
i’m totalllllly new to the film photography world. still don’t know what camera I want...but i think i’m leaning towards the minolta. thank u!
feel free to ask any questions! there are a lot of great options but I do really like my Minolta. glad you found it helpful.
The Minolta x-700 is one of my 3 cameras. I love the camera and it comes with me everywhere I go.
Awesome video...never knew about the X-700 and its meter being too fast at night. You should try an SRT-202...never been let down by that. Mine has been in the family since new and keeps trucking.
Have one. They are fantastic. Built to last
Great video! Just found you channel and really like the content. Now I’m completely bias towards my canon A-1. I love all the features it has (most of which I used every once in a while but like having the option to use them like the double exposures) and the aesthetic of the all black. I have the grip on it which makes it more comfortable. I haven’t gotten to shoot it at night but one day I will. So while the cameras you mentioned are great. In fact id love to get my hands both of them. I think the canon A-1 if far superior to both of them. But that’s just my 2 cents.
The A-1 is definitely the better camera, I’ve used it as well and a lot more features but dials aren’t as easy as the programs bigger ones. But yes they are all nice depending on the circumstance. A1 on top for sure
I really like the screen with the sample photos while you are talking, but the back of the computer in the frame makes the atmosphere rather cramped
I never used the Canon but I'm a Minolta boy and I own a x700. I liked the look of the camera, it brings these modern 80s plastic look with all these cool features that I love. Thx for this great video. I also learned something new about the lightmetering
I love my X-700. Still prefer it over the canon but now I know it may need a little help at night. Glad it was helpful!
I do love my X-700, but I also noticed the underexposure issue. And not only in low light.
Agreed. It is much less noticeable in daylight but yeah. I think I am going to leave mine at +1.5 and see how that works.
Graham White surprisingly, my Zenit 122 has never failed me when it comes to exposure. But the X-700 is just to cool to let go. So i will also use it with +1 or +1.5
at low light you can +1 stop for example shoot with portra 400 at 800 so its overexposed and can give great contrast and no grain. ua-cam.com/video/471U3tDKrpQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=NatashaSegebre
Great video..I have a few it humbles me I'm blessed like you so I will pass it on..be blessed
Thanks Joseph, Glad to hear!
I started out with a Highmatic 7 - just loved that camera. Have always liked Minolta but today I have four AE1+P bodies 🙂
AE-1 Program is a great solidly built camera and it put me on the Canon path. After 40 years, I am reconsidering it for digital. But still their film cameras were wonderful.
R5.
I have the regular ae1 and x700.. only got them because there was a good deal on the lenses that came with them.. the minolta is nice, but the glass on the canon is loads better (basing off of the lens i have and their condition)
but I keep b&w in the x700, and color in the ae1.. love having both on deck
I’ve owned multiple bodies for the x-700 and the ae-1 program, I’ve sold them all except for one canon ae-1 program which I still have today so I guess I prefer the ae-1 BUT I do miss the x700 and the unhealthy amount of lenses I owned for it lol
probably because you wash them in soapy water. lol. Not surprised you have gone through a lot. getting ready to unload all of mine.
This is kind of fun because I had this choice way back when I bought my X700 new I think in 1985ish. I went into the store wanting the Canon but walked out with the Minolta and just loved it. Now I shoot a Nikon F3 but might for memory sake pick up an X700.
Always fun to switch it up now and then
@@graham_white I would buy one right now. But I keep thinking damn I have so many Cameras already and barely shoot 35mm.
Haha yeah. Best to try and keep it to a minimum if at all possible
Thanks for the heads up, on the 700's light meter issue at night. (Sorry you didn't, though).
Ha hopefully you have better luck
I love the quality of your videos!
Thanks Gyno!
recently bought x-700 and im so excited to go shoot with it!
Nice!
Great video man! I bought Canon A-1..it has lovely black design of Minolta, it has Tv, Av, full Auto, and manual! I love it!
Thanks Oliver. I agree I really like the all black and all the features it packs into it.
thank you!
What was the triple split prism you used? Can you please share?
Fantastic Video Graham.
Thanks man!
great video. I was considering buying the minolta x 700 but think ima go with the canon ae 1 instead. I shoot manual so its fine either way and prefer closer to night photography. i also recently got a fd fixed 50 mm cannon lense that i bought for cheap in great condition, and came with a uv filter that ima use for my canon rebel sl3 with an adapter. I figure i can use the lense for both. my teacher also suggested the Ae 1 instead cause similar price and better for me, so thank you for the spec and reasonings. this was very informative.
Glad I could help! yeah the AE series was just so popular its probably the easiest to find and get lenses for. The X-700 is fine if you just adjust exposure compensation for night stuff by 1-2 stops on the exposure compensation dial.
I was under the impression the s on the canon referred to self timer. What exactly does “with sound” mean does the speaker just make a noise when you take a shot as like an audio queue instead of just listening for the shutter
The shutter sound of the X700 is beautiful !
Very true
the s on top cover of ae1-p stands for selftimer, just for your info
Correct I forgot to mention that. I always forget about that cause I’m so used to it being on the front of a body
Your editing skills are crazy
Ha. Thanks
Great comparison video.
What's the easy fix for the infamous Canon squeak that you mention at the 5:35 mark?
there are a few videos on UA-cam for it. you have to remove the bottom plate or the face plate on the lens mount and add the slightest amount of oil into a hole to lubricate the gear.
I think they are both good cameras but I bought the Canon AE1 Program camera in 1982 in Germany while I was in the Army. It worked great for its time. I now have modern DSLR Canon, Pentax cameras and mirrorless Canon, Sony, and Fujifilm cameras. I just got a Minolta XG-A film camera with a bunch of lenses. I will order an adapter to use these lenses on my Sony E mount cameras. I do a lot of Astrophotography and these cameras work well.
They really are, but like any tool it’s important to know it’s strengths and weaknesses
This video was huge help! Just bought the minolta with two lenses for a hundred bucks!
Glad to hear it!
Nice on, thanks!
Thank you.
I’m so glad I ordered the canon I can’t wait for it to come in 😭
Nice pick!
I have owned both of these cameras. I personally prefer the Minolta X700. I like the aperture priority over the shutter priority. The X700 looks a helluva lot cooler as well.
100% agree
3:25 S is not for sound? It's for self timer... it starts beeping to know you have 5 seconds before it takes the photo.
I've seen a bunch of the photos on your website of your time in Haiti, very very nice! I'm really curious as to what camera(s) you use during your travels?
Would love to go back to Haiti! I did a video recently on my compact travel gear set up which includes my main camera for photo video and film. But not my full travel set up, that vary slightly depending on urban outdoors etc. ua-cam.com/video/sauUYUJU_Ow/v-deo.html
Well, you could also go for either Minolta XD-7 (XD-11 in US, XD-s in Japan) or Nikon FE or Olympus OM-2, OM-2 N, OM-2 S/SP. I think I might go for the OM-2 S/SP.
Oh for sure! These two aren’t my first choice in this category but I know they are 2 of the most well known, and I get asked about these two in particular a lot
Think about this on the AE1 program . If you backward think the the whole thing about it being a shutter priority camera, you put the lens on A you chose the shutter speed you want but when you look in the view finder what ever shutter speed you use it will tell you the aperture that it is set to, so all you have to do is keep turning the shutter speed dial until you get the aperture you want! This means that you can set it's shutter speed when the lens is set to A but you can use it to your advantage to also select the aperture or f stop also! I hope it makes sense.
Lol. It is true and in reality you could do something similar in fully manual. And yes easy to do and simple only downside is if your trying to capture something unplanned or street stuff (which I wouldn’t really use this camera for personally) then you don’t have time to backtrack to get where you want. You just need it to happen instantly.
@@graham_white I totally disagree because I used to do it! I'm not trying to be difficult or put you down in any way, I'm just giving you my experience. If you really learn you camera it becomes easy and you learn about hyperfocal distance it easy to shoot!
I'm new to photography but plan on using my newly acquired (through my pops) Canon AE-1 P for street and night shoots. what recommended light meter app or light meter would be good choices? preferably least expensive but great
I use the “light meter” app. It’s free and has been reliable enough for me.
The AE-1 Program was always available in Chrome/Black or All Black variations.
The AE-1 Program lacking an Exposure Compensation control is completely immaterial, as, in effect, it HAS an Exposure Compensation Control. You simply adjust the Film Speed setting to a higher or lower figure away from its normal value that was set to match the installed film in the camera. This does the same thing. Just ensure you return the Film Speed value back again to the "correct" value, after taking a shot in this way.
Did the viewfinder of the AE-1 Program change over the time? I can't see the shutter speed in my viewfinder but only the aperture suggested.
I believe the ground glass and possibly the viewfinder settings but would probably have to do a bit of research to find that information. It can be difficult to find that type of information that is pre internet.
I'm intrigued by the Minolta's, but I know nothing about them. I shot a Nikon FM at the time, but now I have all Olympus cameras from the era. Om-1, OM-2, and an OM-2N. I am partial to the OM-1, I also think all the old SLR cameras from the era were great. Did they make a similar model to the X-700 that was all manual?
Nice video, it's hard to know with older cameras if they're working right or if it was operator error in my case. I use a light meter app as much to verify my light meter.
I know Minolta had the srt which was fully manual. And math the XD or a similar model. I would have to double check. Agreed I try not to rely on any internal meter unless I’m %100 sure it’s solid.
Enjoyed your vid very much. I am having two Minolta X-700 which I have for about 25 years now. They have never failed me once and I use them till now on a regular basis. One of them is with a programmable back which is perfect for night exposure. I think it does not make sense to use automatic mode for night exposures. Hello reciprocity failure! There is no thing as automatic compasation. But if you have done your math and have the ability to take exposures for several hours........not sure which other camera can do this. But the X-700 can and does. Has anyone mentioned the very good glass for little money?????
Hi. quick question. My lens can go f22 and it’s green. So when i put it on program mode, i’ll be good on automatic?
Exactly. I wish it had a separate a setting like the cannons, but yes
Still prefer the minolta for the exposure dial but i think that the Pentax Super A/ Super Program would have beat them all.. you should give it a try
A buddy has one of those. Solid cameras.
i have a question, so since it’s film how do you get the pictures on your devices?
You get them scanned.
Hey graham, i’m about to buy the ae1 p for 180 usd. I’m quite new in photography and want to learn more about it. What do you think about ae 1 p? Would it be worth specially for beginner like me? Thank you!🙏🏻
AE1 program is extremely popular now for one reason. it is extremely easy to use for beginners. settings are fine and image quality is on pair or better than a lot of other electronic film cameras. its definitely one of your best options to easily get into film. personally I think 180 is high but thats for me and where I am from. I think 130ish is about average depending on condition and lens. short answer, yes for you its a great choice. hope that helps
I prefer aperture-priority so on that point, I'd like to get the Minolta. However, I've had one Minolta die from electronic issues so on reliability points, I'd get the Canon.
Ive had the same exact situation. I am curious as to what causes the high volume of electrical failures in the Minolta. If its an easy fix I wonder if it would hold out longer than the original.
@@graham_white On mine it was a dead capacitor. I removed the cover and could see a mark where the capacitor had leaked. It didn't look like I could safely get a soldering iron into the space to solder in a new one, however, so I've temporarily (permanently?) shelved the camera. I still have a XG-M for when the urge to shoot a Minolta arises.
I think AE-1 Program is the camera that made fall in love with the A series Canons. I now shoot, except for medium format, only Canon. I have many others but, even my AL -1 is an excellent camera. Spoiled on the FD Canons.
Personally my favorite is my Canon EF a.k.a. black beauty as it was sometimes called. I’ve been meaning to look at the AV1 and AL1 just to see what the differences are since they are not as commonly found.
@@graham_white I have the A-1, AE-1 and F-1 new, even more simple which one is my favorite! :-)
1:27 hey that’s a Is300 🤙🏽
I love the X700. I use it as my issued camera while working as an Army photographer. I also owned one. I have taken photos with it at night, never had a problem with underexpose. I shot in all modes . But generally at night as a rule I try to shoot manually. Light meters are fickle, too much white or dark colors can throw them off. I never fully trust a camera meter. I carry an 18% gray card or I used my camera bag to meter off which was 18% gray. I carried at least two X700s on occasion three if I had on loaded with slide film. Usually one with 125 iso and the other with 400iso. Normally B&W but color slide. I wonder if your camera may have like you said just have some electronic issues with it.
Also did you use similar lenses, were they fixed focal length or Zoom. We’re the Cannon lenses faster by a fraction of a stop.?
Both 50mm lenses. Theoretically the canon lenses could be faster by a half stop since the stops aren’t spot in to what’s advertised or on the lenses. If I had shot full manual I’m sure I would have had no issue. Since I was walking around with family though I decided to just relax and let the camera do the work. Which is there that light meter let me down.
The reason your night photos were under-exposed (if I understood you correctly) is that you set the iso dial too high, telling your camera that the film you were using is MORE light sensitive than it is, when you actually want to set the iso dial LOWER which will tell your sensor that your film is less light sensitive, therefore letting in more light to reach proper exposure when shooting in automatic mode. On a digital camera setting the iso higher means more exposure but on a film camera the iso dial does the opposite. The iso is already selected based on what film you are using, the dial just tells your sensor how to read it. For example:
Porta 800 shot at 200 iso = 2 stops over-exposed. Fuji 200 shot at 800 iso = 2 stops under-exposed.
Sorry if I'm explaining something you already understand but it's a concept I struggled with a lot with my first film camera. Hopefully this helps anyone who is struggling with this issue.
No worries. It’s been a while since this but I believe I was shooting box speed and had the meter exposed for box speed as well. But yes if I had set my iso lower it would have told the camera more light which would have been ideal since the x700 isn’t as great a low light performer as the canon when it comes to metering
Love my x700 I have 2 in mint condition With motor drive and Minolta flash. Super film cameras
The motor drives are nice. Came across one recently but didn’t have batteries to test and they weren’t sure so I had to pass. Looked like possible corrosion.
Hi Graham I got in to x700 after watching a video by forest hill film lab on utube watt a detailed review it is on the camera flash and motordrive have a look sometime. Best wishes from Ireland
How would you compare both of these cameras to the SRT series of Minoltas, as well as to the XE and XG series of Minoltas?
These are the high end models compared to the ones you mentioned and have more features and automatic modes. The xe and xg may have priority modes but can’t be shot in fully automatic. The srts are fully manual with light meters but they are built like tanks and will last forever
@@graham_white Thanks for your response. So the AE 1P and the 700 may be better suited for someone who is a hobbyist photographer that is still getting used to terminology, camera settings, and shooting in general?
@@stephenstrader1577 Anytime! Correct, they will be easier to use starting off than the others
Would you have an idea why my AE-1P won’t advance film? The film advance lever is stuck and when I press the button to try to take a photo it doesn’t do anything. I just replaced the battery and it does have juice. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
hmmm. my guess is the wiring has gone bad or there's a faulty capacitor or something. could be a few things.
@@graham_whitegotcha, thanks for the reply!
That is quite simple: which mount has more and better lenses?
True. Most people pick these due to ease of use of the actual body though. Personally I don’t prefer either one of the systems really. Although certain bodies and lenses are exceptions
to your problem with underexposed shot, were u saying you rated the camera at 1600 with 400 film? if so, you were effectively underexposing the image 2 stops, meaning you would have to push it 2 stops in development for "normal" exposure. if that info wasnt relayed to your lab, then it would have been developed as normal. hope that helps.
Correct I rated it at 1600 and the lab pushed to 1600 +2 stops. So that wasn't the reason for bad exposure.
I'm using both Canon AE-1 and AE-1P, however I have my eye on a Minolta X-700. The Minolta looks like a fun camera to use.
I loved the feel of the minolta, but found the 45mm f2 lens i got was no as good as i have hoped. Maybe it’s a bad copy. My Canon 50 1.8 on the other hand is just solid.
There are a loot of variations around that focus length. 45, 50, 55 I think. And then 1.7, 1.4, 1.2, 2 etc. on top of year models. I just haven’t brought myself to research all the makes and models but I’m sure there some that aren’t great
@@graham_white yeah the 45 is not the best... the 50mm 1.4 MC is one of the finest lenses ever made IMO. Of course the MD variants or even the canon nFd 1.4 are a lot lighter and a great choice too, but that feel of the MC is just amazing. Not too expensive on top of that.
I have three X series Minolta cameras (2 X700s and 1 X7A) all three are broken unfortunately. Both the X700s I received and used until they broke. They both have shutter curtain problems. One is jammed up and the other has its curtain opening 40% most of the time. I honestly miss using them
I have a couple that are down as well. It is unfortunate
@@graham_white I have a Minolta High-Matic 7 and it works great and I also have other working film slr cameras. But one day I plan to have at least one of my X700s fixed
I have the canon AE 1 program in black what is the difference between the silver I think they might be the same just depending on the year for both models right?
to my knowledge no matter what the year there is no difference unless they just simply changed how a part was made or operates. The only difference is the color although they made fewer black and they are more sought after. same as today where you can by a black or silver xt-4 etc.
@@graham_white thank you for your information it help a lot 👍
If you want a similar, but much better camera than the AE-1, just get the awesome all black Canon A-1 which is also prettier in my opinion.
It has a Program-mode, as well as aperture-priority and shutter-priority modes.
It even has a little switch for double exposures..
It is a much better camera with prices online being similar to the AE-1..
completely agree. I think what makes the ae1 and program more popular is a very simple dial setup that says "program" making it very straightforward. the A-1 is by far much better (and looks much better) but I am just guessing it's a bit more intimidating for intro shooters being it was a more advanced model. I usually find it ends up being cheaper than the program which is funny.
Hey im using x700 to shoot night using 800t film last night
nice!
Uh, you can just change the ISO on Minolta to account for any persistent bias. Takes 2 seconds, fixed. If you're shooting ISO 400, just click it 1/3 or 2/3 down from there and use as normal, and it will always "overexpose" a bit (i.e. correctly expose if it underexposes). I have mine always down 2/3, it may be me using the wrong voltage batteries or something too, or it may be inherent to the model, I dunno. You could easily adjust this day vs night too if you find it's specific like you suggest. Also, X-700 is lighter weight, 50g itself, but smaller batteries too, so probably more like 100g
Correct it’s very easy to fix. The point was to say that stock, the camera inherently does that. So you need to know that it naturally has that tendency so you can use the cameras settings to easily correct it. And yes depending on if a camera has been serviced etc it can be just your particular model however in doing more research I discovered this was a known difference between the two not just a fluke.
Hello Sir
Is there a big difference between the Canon AV-1 and the AE-1 Programme?
Just much. The program just has programmable features the at-1 lacks
I have both, and much prefer using the X700. I've had three AE-1 programs, and all of them had issues with sticky slow mirrors.
Really? Hmm interesting did they have the whining noise also?
@@graham_white yes, all three.
In retrospect, my comment is probably a little unfair, because all three AE-1's were obtained from flee markets, while the X700 was in great condition from ebay. Probably not a good representative sample. Anyway, I just love the X700 viewfinder, which is so bright and clear, and the film advance and soft shutter. So smooth.
Excellent. I own a couple of X-700's, but let's be honest. The X-500 is better when you don't need P and want a better M and less capacitor issues. The XD7 is another love I use. The X-700 more or less is a fashion thing of the past.
Haven’t come across a x-500 but I’ll have to look into that. The xd I always have issues with those and the advance breaking
@@graham_white Too bad! I have three XD's and they work perfectly. I know the first generation of XD's (compensation outside and soft leatherette) has more issues than the newer ones. The X-500/570 offers full manual mode and is very balanced in grip, use, etc.
It is a negligible difference, pretty silly to call one a real camera and one fashion. Seeing the shutter speed in LEDs (you can just feel it with your finger without looking anyway) + a viewfinder shutter that will be relevant 1% of the time? Whoopdeedoo.
At 3:50 you made a mistake. The Canon AE-1 Program does NOT use one LR44 battery. Instead it uses one 6 Volt battery commonly known as Duracell 28A or Energizer A544. The size of it is equal to 4 LR44 batteries.
Very tru
I found a great condition Minolta x700 with 2 lens and comes with the box for a cheap price. But it’s not tested. Is it worth the buy even if it not tested but in good condition ?
No way to know. If the lenses are good may get your money out of it if the body isn’t working. But I’ve had great condition x700s with faulty electronics… they are still sitting on my shelf waiting for repair.
I've been shooting a Canon EOS 300V with a 50mm f1.8 for the past couple of years. Is there much point in going to an AE-1 Program for me?
Only if you want a more analog feel and vintage look. Yours is right at that spot before digital took over. So your features and settings are more advanced but it’s not a “desirable” camera because it’s so digital and doesn’t have the look feel everyone wants. Image wise though it’s just as good if not better.
@@graham_white I wont bother if that's the case. I get my analog fill from my M645
@@mattparkin7224 I have a 300v and an X-700.. Minolta Glass is better than Canon FD, IMO. But you're going to get great images with the more modern EF lenses. I own both for different reasons.
You got to have both.. : )
Haha. Not a bad idea
Nice✌🏻✌🏻
Need advice, which one is more reliable, breaks less or needs less maintenance
Oof. Kind of a loaded question and can vary drastically depending on the condition and care the one you get has received. Overall I would think the ae-1p has a better more documented track record of reliability
Awesome, I appreciate the response. I have both and it don’t make sense to keep them both, or maybe it does lol
I really prefer the feel of the canon, it kinda makes the Minolta feel toyish
When I started out on film, I bought an AE-1 (non program) because that is what everyone said to buy; it sucked. I sold it and bought a Nikon FM2n and I have been a happy photographer ever since. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the top and bottom plates on the AE-1 aren’t actually metal construction, just metal plated; it’s cheap excuse for a camera.
Ya I believe you are right. Haha that’s a very nice upgrade though for sure.
Actually on the canon the s stands for selftimer...
Ya I messed that up haha
damn! the canon colour looks super beautiful, what rolls are u using
Thanks! I believe Portra 400
@@graham_white amazing! thanks for replying
I only have a Canon AE-1 Program and my first camera was a Canon so call me biased. I personally will take reliability any day of the week. What good is a camera if you can’t use it because the camera decides it wants to take up a job frying eggs on its circuit board rather then taking pictures.
Lol interesting way of putting it but valid.
I have the AE-1 Program but I usually prefer my AE-1
Good video Graham. I got both cameras and I like them both. I don't really use either of them though haha.
Hahaha. I can very much relate to that Rob. The x-700 was my first film camera and I have my forgers ae-1... but I much prefer some other options I have as well. Thanks Rob!
What is the model that you recommend for me from the classic Minolta cameras, which combine mechanical and electronic components, accept many lenses, are flexible, and whose lenses are available?
For example, if you ask me about Nikon, I will tell you FA, and Canon, I will tell you AE-1 program.
I would say the x700 if I had to guess. That or something in the xd line
XD 11 👍
I love how he spoke of the ae-1 program like it wasn't all that but then the images come out better than the x-700's lmao
Hi guys which is it good canon A1 or Minolta x300
They are both good. I prefer the x-700. Bit the canon is probably more reliable.
The AE-1 was a Amateur Camera, the Canon New F-1 was the real Deal. The X700 Minolta (1981-1999 or 2000) was besides the Pentax K1000 and the Nikon FM2 (1982-2001) the only one from 3 SLRs worldwide, which had such a long Time Production Run, for a Reason. The X700 is a Aperture Priority SLR, whileas the AE-1 is being Shutter Priority. The Viewfinder of the X700 is way big. I love my Minolta and Contax Gear. Your Milage may vary...but the Film Transport and Operation is being more smooth with the X700 than the AE-1. Anyway, pick your Poison, enjoy shooting! ;-)
Update: FYI, your X700 Pictures do look somehow strange, i never had this kind of Flare into my X700 Photographs, and all 10 Years or so, Lightseals and Mirror Dampers are being replaced. And i do always shoot with a matching Lens Hood, for the used Lens, which is mounted on the SLR, of course. No offense.
Thanks for adding the info! Ya I have 2 x-700 bodies and replaced the seals in 1 then apparently shot with the wrong body so that’s why a lot have light leaks. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
la minolta x700 es una muy buena cámara, lo único que tiene que es de plástico (que es muy duro) , es electromecánica, el disparador a veces faya ....pero fuera de eso tiene mas funciones que la canon ae1 y saca las mismas fotos
Prefer bthe x700. Have two of each. Camons both have the dreaded squeal. Both x700's are minty.
I'm very fond of my Minolta xe-7 excellent camera.
eventually Ill try one of those.
@@graham_white found mine in a thrift store about 6 month's ago for $12
@@bumslayer76 dang, well done