These were my first pair of Grant Stone boots. Had them since July. Loved the tough look. Of course, this was the start of my quick descent into boot buying.
I just received a pair of Brass Boot in Natural Waxed Commander. Absolutely blows my more expensive Allen Edmond Combat Boots out of the water in terms of quality control and craftsmanship. The stitching is beautiful and like you mentioned the welt isnt even overlapping.
Just received my Edward boots in tobacco Waxy Commander leather. They are fantastic and just as you described them in this video! Very grateful that your video led me to such great boots. Thank you.
Certainly green with y mate. Quality is not based on the country but rather what you demand of the makers of your product. There are certainly reasons why one would want to purchase items from their home country, let alone their individual community. However, a gentleman ought to know quality when they see it regardless of where it comes from. I can see the quality you are talking about and that welt connection is always visible on redwings and so on. Very interesting that he heel counter is on the inside, I like that. Another great one my friend!
Teik, your channel just keeps getting better and better. BTW, I’ve started implementing your thoughts about attention to quality processes at work. Amazingly helpful!
Really like your reviews! I own boots from Red Wing, Wolverine, and Allen Edmonds. This is my first pair of Grant Stone boots and I am quickly loving this brand and the quality
I missed out on a pair of seconds of these, and it hurts lol. I got a pair of the storm Kudu diesels though, and they’re awesome. I should’ve picked these up too
Hi, I use these boots all the time. The fit is perfect, as I followed your advise to go down a size and up in width. The leather from F.C. Stead is fantastic. Even in wet conditions I am dry on my feet. Br Lars
Teik I’m not a patent lawyer but I’ve worked in Engineering/Technology for companies that hold patents, and basically patents have a limited duration….something like 17 to 20 years. This is so that companies cannot block competitors out of a market/technology forever, which would stifle innovation. But it’s enough time for innovative companies to make a good profit on new technology. You also can’t really “renew” or tweak the design slightly and get a new patent. Like if you made the round studs ovals instead of circles. That’s not really a novel design. So you probably couldn’t get a patent for that. What could potentially still be protected are copyrights or trademarks. Like if Dainite had always marketed that sole as a “Micro studded sole”. They might have been able to trademark that so that other companies can’t use that phrase to market their sole.
Patents for the Dainite sole, if applied for, would last for 20 years nowadays, though it may have been a bit different when they were invented. Regardless, I think it is safe to say that the patent rights have expired.
Hi Teik, great review as always. Boots look great. I assume because of the wax coating they are good in inclement weather? Separate note, did you join the stitchdown patina thunderdomw? If so, do a review of those boots. Best regards, David
They’re not water PROOF but water will bead initially, so rain is ok, but I’d be wary of puddles. No I haven’t joined SDPT - too many boots to wear one pair for 7 months 😂
Fantastic review. I appreciate your insight. I just bought a pair of these and can’t wait to wear them in to look like some of the stills you shared in the video. Cheers!
This leather was sold out of my size so I went with the Dark Oak’s instead (amazing patina) and later the Color 8’s. This boot just hits all the marks for me with quality second to none that I’ve seen. Keep bringing us great reviews!!
How do you like the rughouts and how do you think they compare to these? Not many videos on those so came here to watch a review of something similiar.
@@tuukkakankkunen2869 the leather has a distinct look. Sunlight brings out the highs and lows. Aside from its beauty, it’s a hefty leather too, thick. Very nice article by Grant Stone
new sub - nice break down of the boot. doing boot shopping right now so perfect timing ;) I must say, this is very well done. Keep it up, i can see your subs grow and channel being successful. Too bad it's seude as that's a cheaper leather quality but other than that, it's a beaut of a boot.
@@Bootlosophy i think that might be one thing for you to touch on more with your boot reviews, is the tannage/tannery if you're able to find them out. I think to a lot of us, we have no idea what makes for a good tannery/tannage on a boot. Nevermind the whole mess of trying to sort out if genuine leather is premium leather or bottom tier leather as it can be both depending on the leather worker. Like if you know tips of how to spot a good tannage on leather, that would be very useful. I think channels like this are a blessing to the shoe industry as a whole, not only does it inform the customers but it will also force companies to produce better products once more folks become educated about what makes a good shoe/boot versus one that will be ready to toss into the garbage bin a years time.
@@The_Zilli thanks for your thoughtful comments. I try to scatter information about construction method, tanneries, sole brands and so on, but it’s a heck of a balance between information and length of the video. There are a number of “usual suspects” in all of those things so I try to focus on one thing here, another there. However, I take your point. I guess you might have to see ALL my videos to catch all the explanations into different histories of tanneries etc 😂😂😂
@@Bootlosophy working on the other videos but you're right, folks don't want to spend an hour to watch a full in depth dive of every boot but the information that you do provide has been insightful. Having spent a lot of time researching leather in order to pick up a leather jacket has kind of morphed it's way into st;udying leather gloves and now with those two out of the way, working on the boots. The reason I bring that up is that during my research on leather with jackets, there really wasn't much emphasis on the tannery of the leather from what Ive noticed and that the price of the jacket seemed more to do with brand names and sizing than the quality of the leather itself if that makes any sense. While shoes, seems to be the complete opposite, where there is very special attention to each specific part of the shoe construction including the type of leather used as many shoe companies with limited boot options offer the same model boot under a slew of different types of leathers. Something you do not see in comparison with leather jackets or gloves for that matter. Very odd and interesting at the same time. In any event, keep up the great work, and I will be sure to watch your other videos to learn more about the tannages.
Great review! Excited to order a pair of Ottawas in Crimson CXL and I’m debating whether or not I should go for Dale’s sizing strategy. Do you feel as though employing it with these improved comfort? (Seeing as they’re the same last)
I find Dale’s strategy works but I don’t feel a great difference in fit. To me, I’d go your usual size unless that’s sold out, then go an extra half down/one width up to get a pair that will still fit.
how much did you pay for these including shipping to aus? and did you have to pay additional tax to ups on top of the purchase price or it was just however much you paid at the checkout? Cheers
"but in this waxed suede, it just looks badass" DEFINITELY the most accurate way of characterizing these boots!!!!!!!
These were my first pair of Grant Stone boots. Had them since July. Loved the tough look. Of course, this was the start of my quick descent into boot buying.
I know that descent well 🤦♂️
I just received a pair of Brass Boot in Natural Waxed Commander. Absolutely blows my more expensive Allen Edmond Combat Boots out of the water in terms of quality control and craftsmanship. The stitching is beautiful and like you mentioned the welt isnt even overlapping.
I think these boots look like the AE higgins mill in waxed suede uppers. I really enjoy to watch your reviews
Just received my Edward boots in tobacco Waxy Commander leather. They are fantastic and just as you described them in this video! Very grateful that your video led me to such great boots. Thank you.
and man thanks for the shoutout at the end, i'm happy that sizing advice worked for you!!!!
Certainly green with y mate. Quality is not based on the country but rather what you demand of the makers of your product. There are certainly reasons why one would want to purchase items from their home country, let alone their individual community. However, a gentleman ought to know quality when they see it regardless of where it comes from. I can see the quality you are talking about and that welt connection is always visible on redwings and so on. Very interesting that he heel counter is on the inside, I like that. Another great one my friend!
Having done quality and productivity programs for years, your comments are spot on.
Teik, your channel just keeps getting better and better. BTW, I’ve started implementing your thoughts about attention to quality processes at work. Amazingly helpful!
Haha, I am a management consultant after all 😁
Really like your reviews! I own boots from Red Wing, Wolverine, and Allen Edmonds. This is my first pair of Grant Stone boots and I am quickly loving this brand and the quality
I missed out on a pair of seconds of these, and it hurts lol. I got a pair of the storm Kudu diesels though, and they’re awesome. I should’ve picked these up too
Fantastic review; very detailed and helpful. I just ordered my black Waxed Commander Edward boots. Seemed more my style than the Diesel.
Your channel is quickly becoming a must watch for me! Keep up the great work and thank you for these very well thought-out and structured reviews.
Hi, I use these boots all the time. The fit is perfect, as I followed your advise to go down a size and up in width. The leather from F.C. Stead is fantastic. Even in wet conditions I am dry on my feet. Br Lars
Teik I’m not a patent lawyer but I’ve worked in Engineering/Technology for companies that hold patents, and basically patents have a limited duration….something like 17 to 20 years. This is so that companies cannot block competitors out of a market/technology forever, which would stifle innovation. But it’s enough time for innovative companies to make a good profit on new technology.
You also can’t really “renew” or tweak the design slightly and get a new patent. Like if you made the round studs ovals instead of circles. That’s not really a novel design. So you probably couldn’t get a patent for that.
What could potentially still be protected are copyrights or trademarks. Like if Dainite had always marketed that sole as a “Micro studded sole”. They might have been able to trademark that so that other companies can’t use that phrase to market their sole.
That is TERRIFIC information! Thanks!
Wish Grant Stone offered these in the diesel style
The Diesel Earth is close. Same Stead waxy commander but on a brown base
I cant decide between the tobacco Edwards and the diesel dark burgundy Kudu. I wish they made the tobacco Edwards with commando soles
Patents for the Dainite sole, if applied for, would last for 20 years nowadays, though it may have been a bit different when they were invented. Regardless, I think it is safe to say that the patent rights have expired.
Hi Teik, great review as always. Boots look great. I assume because of the wax coating they are good in inclement weather? Separate note, did you join the stitchdown patina thunderdomw? If so, do a review of those boots. Best regards, David
They’re not water PROOF but water will bead initially, so rain is ok, but I’d be wary of puddles. No I haven’t joined SDPT - too many boots to wear one pair for 7 months 😂
Just discovering this channel, and it's an instant subscribe from me. Really well done content in what is becoming a crowded field.
the last is set up where it can have a size A or B heel with a size D toe box
Fantastic review. I appreciate your insight. I just bought a pair of these and can’t wait to wear them in to look like some of the stills you shared in the video. Cheers!
This leather was sold out of my size so I went with the Dark Oak’s instead (amazing patina) and later the Color 8’s. This boot just hits all the marks for me with quality second to none that I’ve seen.
Keep bringing us great reviews!!
How do you like the rughouts and how do you think they compare to these? Not many videos on those so came here to watch a review of something similiar.
@@tuukkakankkunen2869 the leather has a distinct look. Sunlight brings out the highs and lows. Aside from its beauty, it’s a hefty leather too, thick. Very nice article by Grant Stone
Good stuff, very informative.
Thank you. Love your channel!
@@Bootlosophy Thank you so much!
I like the oak roughout
Funny how there's so much copying of a dainite sole which allows so many of it's wearers to slip and fall on very light ice and or snow
🤣🤣 But seriously, it’s not the studs, more the hardness/softness of the rubber composition. A very hard sneaker sole would be deadly on ice.
Now I need a pair lol
new sub - nice break down of the boot. doing boot shopping right now so perfect timing ;) I must say, this is very well done. Keep it up, i can see your subs grow and channel being successful. Too bad it's seude as that's a cheaper leather quality but other than that, it's a beaut of a boot.
I know. A waxed roughout would have been better but the price would be more, and Stead’s Waxy Commander is a pretty good tannage.
@@Bootlosophy i think that might be one thing for you to touch on more with your boot reviews, is the tannage/tannery if you're able to find them out. I think to a lot of us, we have no idea what makes for a good tannery/tannage on a boot. Nevermind the whole mess of trying to sort out if genuine leather is premium leather or bottom tier leather as it can be both depending on the leather worker. Like if you know tips of how to spot a good tannage on leather, that would be very useful. I think channels like this are a blessing to the shoe industry as a whole, not only does it inform the customers but it will also force companies to produce better products once more folks become educated about what makes a good shoe/boot versus one that will be ready to toss into the garbage bin a years time.
@@The_Zilli thanks for your thoughtful comments. I try to scatter information about construction method, tanneries, sole brands and so on, but it’s a heck of a balance between information and length of the video. There are a number of “usual suspects” in all of those things so I try to focus on one thing here, another there. However, I take your point. I guess you might have to see ALL my videos to catch all the explanations into different histories of tanneries etc 😂😂😂
@@Bootlosophy working on the other videos but you're right, folks don't want to spend an hour to watch a full in depth dive of every boot but the information that you do provide has been insightful. Having spent a lot of time researching leather in order to pick up a leather jacket has kind of morphed it's way into st;udying leather gloves and now with those two out of the way, working on the boots. The reason I bring that up is that during my research on leather with jackets, there really wasn't much emphasis on the tannery of the leather from what Ive noticed and that the price of the jacket seemed more to do with brand names and sizing than the quality of the leather itself if that makes any sense. While shoes, seems to be the complete opposite, where there is very special attention to each specific part of the shoe construction including the type of leather used as many shoe companies with limited boot options offer the same model boot under a slew of different types of leathers. Something you do not see in comparison with leather jackets or gloves for that matter. Very odd and interesting at the same time. In any event, keep up the great work, and I will be sure to watch your other videos to learn more about the tannages.
The Diesel and Edward are both on the Leo last. Which style is better for low volume feet with skinny ankles?
Greetings from Indonesia
im wearing redwing 7D, is it 6.5 D in grant stone
thank you for your video, really enjoy it!
Same size in Grant Stone
@@Bootlosophy so i should buy 7D ?same size with red wing?
Great review! Excited to order a pair of Ottawas in Crimson CXL and I’m debating whether or not I should go for Dale’s sizing strategy. Do you feel as though employing it with these improved comfort? (Seeing as they’re the same last)
I find Dale’s strategy works but I don’t feel a great difference in fit. To me, I’d go your usual size unless that’s sold out, then go an extra half down/one width up to get a pair that will still fit.
Quick question, do you own any Rancourts, if so thoughts.
Afraid not, but they’re on the list.
Do you think you could fit into a 8D in the edward? I fit perfectly into a 9D Diesel and think about ordering a 9D in the Edward or a 8.5E
As I said in the video my usual Leo last size is 8D
how much did you pay for these including shipping to aus? and did you have to pay additional tax to ups on top of the purchase price or it was just however much you paid at the checkout? Cheers
Just the checkout price
Did those laces come with the boots?
No, they’re from my cobbler
Are the waxy commander leathers suede or rough out?
Waxed suede
Patents last only 20 years...if you never got an answer
Please don't add kiwi or patte de Lux on wax suede, it doesn't absorb and smears
Do you live in your office?