Child Molester Becomes Lawyer After Winning Appeal
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2024
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He didn't tell the bar. What on earth will force him to tell a single mother with a child in his office that he is a child sex offender? Not only did he not tell the bar, he didn't tell his doctor, nor his neighborhood/community. And since his name is hidden away... Most people are going to be none the wiser if they step foot into his office.
If this man is in "Good Standing" then I'm queen of Canada.
A lawyer needing a chaperone around women and children is most certainly not of good character. The mental gymnastics the tribunal had to go through to find him of good character AND yet put restrictions on him without recognizing the contradiction are astounding. Hopefully the law sociey prevails in their appeal.
He probably wants to be a lawyer to get all the other child fondlers off.
@@ianbelletti6241they’re one of the few groups he can meet alone with
@@ianbelletti6241maybe that’s why the tribunal wanted him to be a lawyer
Even if you aren’t talking about his “good” character, how on earth is he supposed to do his job? I mean is he only going to represent grown men? 🤦🏻♀️
@@papermind4010 that's what i'm thinking too. Only another predator would let someone slide like that.
He lied to the board and he is of good character this is insane.
That's what I was thinking. Couldn't that be considered akin to like educational or professional fraud?
"He's one hell of a litigator...an absolute surgeon with his cross examinations. If you want to win your case...hire him."
--So, should we invite him to dinner?
"OH, HELL NO! Keep him away from your kids and pets."
So, let me get this straight...
This person of good character, must be restricted from being around either women or children, because this person of good character can be *EXPECTED* to commit *felonies* against women and children. Some *more*. Repeatedly.
HOW did this process ever get even *remotely* as far along as it has already?
*I* also want the names of each and every person along the way of this process, who approved any aspect of this administratively. Clearly their judgment cannot be trusted.
Seriously. Open to bribery and who knows what. IMO, allegedly
My guess, they are on the woke train
There are some crimes that deserve second chances. "Aggressive child hugging" isn't one of them. 😐
How does being a child molester equate to good moral character? How does masturbating in public equate to good character? How does incest equate to good moral character? This makes absolute no sense. Bafflement and confusion is the only thing stifling my outrage. None of this makes absolutely any sense.
I have lived long enough that shock doesn’t hit anymore, I go right to outrage. This is horrendous.
This is Canada we're talking about. Canada is just Clown World now.
Immediately upon you stating the restriction of not being around children alone, I wondered how they'd be able to enforce it. The idea that this disgusting person has "good moral character" makes no sense. This is a massive violation of public trust.
If he is willing to lie about this for self benefit, what else is he willing to lie about under the guise of "lawyer".
Guise. It sounds like you spelled it, but it’s guise.
so s-xually abusing minors, then concealing that fact is not seen as a mark of bad character?
oh he already took part in 1000s of cases at his daddies lawfirm too?
amazing.
Ha in deep space!!! That second circle needs to be not in the Milky Way galaxy
Awwwww he wanted to avoid being outed as a child sex offender. How sad. 🤬
What’s sadder is that for the most part he’s succeeded.
We may never know his name.
@@alexjoseph1306eh the internet will get to it soon enough
Shouldn't he be on a list somewhere already? Does Canada have a sex offender's list like how the US does?
@@Kalysta we do, but it’s not public like in the US. Only accessible by law enforcement.
Also, he wouldn’t be on it because he was never convicted, the only reason we know what happened is someone reported it and he admitted it.
Because he couldn’t deal with the shame. Awww too bad for his fragile ego, I wonder how shameful this all is for the victims. I can’t stand people with this level of self centered.
I cannot believe that his father is so stupid as to allow himself and his firm to be associated with his son's behaviour. I cannot imagine if the name of the firm gets out that it would not cost them some clients.
likely the apple did not fall far from the tree.... interpret that statement however you wish..
@@themittonmethod1243 was just about to write this. I'm 100% certain their are judges involved in this... why would the nickeloeon CM'er only get 16 months, have numerous people writing letters to support a CM'er to the judge and the judge reciprocate?
why would disney hire this CM'er IMMEDIATELY after coming out to again work with kids? pdowood hides and protects its own, money enforces power, judges hold that power.
john gacy was involved with alot of powerful people then when you think about it, how did epsteins island go so long without any notice?
america has a problem that the perople in power dont seem to think is a problem...
@@themittonmethod1243 yeah no the guy had to learn this type of behavior from someone...
It might also *attract* some clients... with a lot of money. (hark, e*ste*n... hark.)
@@mb8787 that's a good point
Curious who his dad is and how much power and connections he has. This reeks of old boys club.
I don't think he should be a lawyer even if he was rehabilitated, but the fact that he still shows signs of needing further rehab is even more abhorrent. That's not even taking into account the lying. WTF are these people thinking?
Maybe if every outraged lawyer in Canada signed a letter of protest to this organization....this is insane.
I think they dont know.. but I think if they did they would.
As a licensee in Ontario, I have very serious concerns about the judgment of the panel that heard this appeal. There is absolutely no doubt that this decision casts the profession into disrepute. It's not enough for the Law Society to appeal this ruling - the benchers who sat on the hearing and appeal panels need to be held to account as well.
I would have some understanding if the panel licensed him subject to a restriction that he never be permitted to deal directly with the public, or be retained directly by any client(s). Even that would seem very, very lenient.
I'm more than willing to allow 'second chances' but, in my view, A.A.'s second chance was when he applied to be licensed in 2012, lied on his application, and then "dishonestly withheld medical records and other information" from the investigation. That's it. That's enough. Some things, you just can't come back from.
If the restrictions for an individual would have to be stringent enough to ensure he cannot be alone with more than half of the potential clientelle, wouldn't that be an indication that this particular profession probably isn't a good fit? 😅
Yes - rehabilitation is only possible where someone truly understands the harm they have committed, takes accountability for their actions, is earnest in their efforts to cause no further harm to others, and is honest about their background even if by doing so they cause harm to themselves. That is emphatically not the case here.
Kiddy fiddlers have the backs of their own.
So what if he would defend someone who's accused of crimes against children and the discovery includes certain types of material that someone like him shouldn't have access to? Who is going to check stuff like this to make sure it won't happen? I find it strange to put this on the public and assume everyone is going to know about this lawyer and when to avoid him.
Also being a lawyer is a profession that gives him access to sensible information that he could potentially use to blackmail people with. Based on his problematic views on women that could create some very bad situations.
Right?! I was thinking the same thing!
Aside from restrictions on who he can interact with, there would also have to be restrictions on what kinds of cases he could work on. At what point are we beyond making "reasonable accommodations" for someone, and into this is simply not a safe profession for that person to be in?
My concern too, because even if he is only handling files, he is interacting with sensitive info...and the people whose info it is will have no idea it has been through his hands. If you don't know he is involved how can you look him up and find out he is a pdf & creep in other ways too?! The fact he has been handling cases at his father's law firm is disturbing. Even if he was only filing them, it's too much, imo.
I absolutely believe in reform. But reformed individuals do not continue lying about their actions.
"People have thoughts". Yeah, I got some thoughts.
Im having several. Mostly about the wide open wilderness of Ontario and airfares from Finland.
@@oz_jones Beautiful country, but you have to be careful....a man can get lost..........never be found..........
Mine aren’t very pretty.🩸
Phew, I'm glad we're a profession that's held in such high public esteem that something like this won't have any sort of negative effect reputationally.
Makes ya proud, huh? 😢
That his application was approved is appalling. Wtf, Ontario?
Have you looked at how they vote? Common sense isn't a thing there.
I'm in Ontario. This has horrified me, and triggered some trauma. I can't express the injustice this organization has so far gotten away with.
Write! Raise heck!
He definitely should not be in any field that he can be around any children.
Guy should never be a lawyer.
Maybe a career in politics.
He almost seems over qualified.
I always just assumed that with some specific crimes you are by default excluded from certain professionsof this kind
Obviously not. These creeps are in all kinds of positions where they have access to kids. Schools, preachers of all religions and cults, counselors, LE, you name it.
And they fight cameras being in those places because, ‘privacy.’ Privacy is a myth, and it only protects abusers and criminals. I don’t mean that there should be surveillance everywhere, but parents should be able to see their kids anywhere they are, or communicate with them.
Its called here in the south, lipstick on a pig.
This is absurd.
This is something I couldn't even imagine being possible! As soon as they found out what he did they should have permanently disqualified him. Children aren't safe, women aren't safe and nothing he says can be trusted. DISQUALIFIED.
In other word the court made him an Officer of the Court, please don't be family court.
It would *never* occur to me that I should check to see whether my lawyer is on a protective order that would prohibit him being alone in a room with me or a child before meeting with him.
Yes, currently in process of hiring a lawyer and had not thought of that question to ask potential lawyer.
I would question the tribunals ability to make this decision if they are okay with having a man who is clearly not of good character as a lawyer. But wait, his DAD is also a lawyer??? Well, there we go! We now know why exactly they said sure. Daddy pulled strings.
This is like letting someone be a nurse after they commit a hate crime but they can't work with bipoc without a chaperone
More like letting an admitted drug addict work as a pharmacist, but only under supervision.
@@SteamS01dierthat can actually be done in some cases. There are programs for HCWs with substance use disorders. Many are self medicating and access to high quality prescription meds really increases the odds of misuse. They have to jump through about a billion hoops (so most if not all would-be repeat offenders get weeded out) but they can be great at their jobs. They may be more empathetic towards patients with disorders more closely tied to lifestyle such as alcoholism.
I say this as someone who’s never misused anything. They’re just not on the same level as violent, hateful, or abusive people and I hope anyone in this field with a substance problem gets help. The ones who don’t get caught are the ones who cause the issues.
BIPOC only? So Asians are fair game? What a useless distinction.
@@pepperplz783 the point was to take a profession that's highly trusted and works with vulnerable people and point out how insane it would be to allow someone to be a nurse if they have hate crimes in their background. This hypothetical nurse has demonstrated that they don't meet the ethical requirements of the profession
@@RebekahRochelleYou're pretty racist, Rebekah. You should work on that.
If ur in Ontario, like I am, we'll find out his identity soon enough when it's published, and then EVERYONE will know which law firm to avoid. If he had to rely on being hired by a firm, he wouldn't have a chance, but since daddy will overlook his pdf son, he has somewhere he's apparently been working for yrs. This is so incredibly wrong!
If an Ontario judge gets disbarred for merely wearing a MAGA hat while off duty, there's an inconsistency here.
Careful noticing things now days can get you in serious trouble, next thing you know you'll start noticing "hate" facts
Suspended, for 30 days actually.
The standards for Judges are much stricter.
Displaying any political bias is a very clear breach of standards for judges.
People mistakenly believing that someone is reformed is not really inconsistent with all that much.
@@johnsmith34hahahah ohhh boy.. ya.. lets say some people have a pass vs others.. from what i saw … there should be several very high level judges lose their jobs for saying very despicable things cause it would actaully compromise them as judges.. potentially treating a certain group with extreme hate and bias ( and it’s no tht he group you think it is)
Ya… those people were saved by the board .. if it was anyone else they would have been fired.
@@johnsmith34and yet over 70% of the Canadian judiciary contribute financially to the Liberal Party of Canada.
@@isaiah_b_3798 13.9%, actually.
Seriously, learn to read.
You dont need a criminal lawyer, you need a _criminal_ lawyer.
Hah! Too accurate. Could also make a crack at "Good moral standing for a lawyer…"
And what about this guy's father who is allowing him to work in his firm? Could this be a family thing? He was SA'ed as a child by his dad and his dad doesn't see anything wrong with it? I would love to be able to write a letter of protest. This is like telling an accountant who stole money he can work at a bank!
Ignoring the fact that he is not of "good character" and fails that test for the job, wouldn't he be under threat of blackmail from any criminal who knows his past/identity? Compromised on so many levels for the profession
Sounds like AA's Dad has some clout. The question AA's Dad should be asking is, "Is this the hill I want to burn personal favors on?" Sometimes you just have to say, "Sorry, son. This is the grave you dug for yourself. I cannot help you with this one."
That and he sounds like an awful grandfather. Who could support someone who did awful things like that to their grandkid?
These being called “his past actions or his condition” when the “past” is within the year is 🤯🤬 [8 - 2 month period in 2009; 11 - upon his return in 2009]
WoW! 😲
Nowadays ‘my past’ seems to mean, anything after two seconds ago.🤨🙄
How could the law society be ok with violating a tribunal decision. Surely they see the order was there for the victims not the violator.
Can other former criminals become members of the Bar?
If they can would having lied about their past matter?
Does it matter if the crime was committed in another country?
Is working as a paralegal. I guess he has a right to live and earn a living if he complies with the his restrictions.
No.
He shouldn't be a member of any profession where trust is required.
The constitution provides us with rights, he forfeited as a result of his actions. The rights of children should outweigh his rights.
The victims right should always be more important than the perpetrator.
He can use his education in other ways.
Other criminals including Rohan George (convicted of manslaughter) and Suresh Sriskandarajah (convicted of terrorism offences in the USA), have been allowed to be members of the bar. But they were honest from the get go and showed they were rehabilitated.
There was another case of someone involved in a plane hijacking in India (Parminder Singh Saini), where he was denied in part because he tried to conceal it.
never heard of a rehabilitated child predator.......EVER
This is not the first time that an accused child molester has become a lawyer in Ontario. One of the music teachers at my old high school was forced to resign after one of his victims came forward and complained of abuse. There were rumours for years about his alleged activities. This person was the first, and to my knowledge, the only one to come forward. After leaving the school, he became a lawyer. As far as I know, he is still practicing.
Wouldn't be entirely surprised to find out he's this guy's dad
@@Ellie-rx3jtno, he isn't. This teacher is gay and never married.
If the allegations weren't reported to police and he didn't say anything when he applied to join the bar then how is the law society meant to know about it? You should do what happened in this case and write an anonymous letter. They should investigate it. Even if the investigation goes nowhere maybe it'll give the guy a few sleepless nights wondering if his past has caught up with him.
@@donsmeltzer4083even worse because people who are sa by gay peple lgbtq almost never come forward
Is he still on the directory of the Law Society? Enter his name and let us know
Emotional trauma of the victims vs his not wanting to face the emotional upset of being outed for what he clearly did and willfully lied about.
A lawyer who fails to disclose pertinent information to the law society can't be reasonably expected to change that behaviour in his future practice.
Like... Failing to disclose evidence in proceedings has gotten lawyers disbarred before!
As infuriating as this is, it's also sad. According to the previous hearing, both parents, AA and BB, asked for the publication ban to keep the truth from his children. His child that he abused was already an adult and didn't remember the abuse. Imagine being an adult and finding out that your father abused you in such a public way! What a horrible way to find out!!!
First, why is this man not in jail!! He committed a crime. Obviously he is not rehabilitated and still poses a threat to society.
He is delusional if he thinks he can make a career of being a lawyer. There is only a small fraction of people that would even consider hiring him.
I would think that his father will stand to lose a good chunk of clientele if he is brought on as a lawyer through his father's firm.
Ask those who approved him if he can babysit their children.
This sort of thing is so frustrating. Even over 3500 miles away in Glasgow (Scotland), a dental student at University of Glasgow was found guilty of repeated SA of a 6-8 year old child, and was handed an absolute discharge from the judge. No punishment, no supervision, no conviction on his record, and not being placed on the sex offenders register. The judge didn't want to harm his bright future career, blaming the SA on "curiosity". No thought was given to future potential
access to children and anaesthesia. Hopefully there will be as much backlash over the subject of this video as there was over the paedo dentist student here in Scotland.
I would call to question the board’s specific desires when it comes to children. Monsters tend to flock together and give something a legal standing so they don’t get into trouble when or if they get caught in the same act. Otherwise none of these decisions make any sense at all
Excellent venn diagram
Reminds me of a certain church which had a widespread problem like this, some time age.
Regardless of being a child molester, his lies to these regulators BY THEMSELVES makes him clearly untrustworthy and not of good character.
It shows what really goes on.
I wonder if his dad is well connected and is the reason for all this BS.
Lawyers should police themselves, just like police....because that has always worked
Yeah. And doctors. Nope. That needs to change all around.
This is eerily similar to something I found out yesterday: a friend of mine works in an office with a lawyer on the sex offender registry list. According to the list, it was a Chris Hansen situation that happened in another state but AFTER the lawyer was admitted to the bar.
Seriously considering sending my own anonymous letter because HOW IS HE BARRED? This guy and his firm list *family law* as a practice area! His disciplinary record is clean!
Seriously, any US lawyers in the comments, is this even possible?
This is some straight-up pigeon business.
So sorry you’re not well Ian. I appreciate you voicing your concerns. Please take the best care of yourself and heal. Sending love and best wishes to you. Kelly from Southern California
OMG if this guy is able to keep his license, I imagine that no one will hire him, and if someone does, what burden does that firm carry for him? Will they have to disclose that he cannot be with women or children alone?
I can understand something like, committing any other kind of crime, and working in a field of law completely different from what your crime was in, but this is beyond the pale! Also shame on his father! He should also be investigated and have his license stripped for endangering the public!
Well, we can guess who would hire him. Mobsters hire mob lawyers.
He's got his clientelle cut out for him.
If his name isn't known how will the public know if he is following the restrictions the bar have placed on him?
his name cannot be known to protect the identity of his former wife and his child (that he apparently diddled)
What kind of law practice can he pursue?
Family law is right out.
Torte law is out.
Contract law in a corporate setting is possible, but if his identity becomes public then he becomes a significant hazard to corporate reputation.
Entertainment law! He'll fit right in.
Extremely disturbed!! Horrified!! Makes ypu wonder if the father has friends on the committee that wants to allow an abuser to be a lawyer????
Wow,he should not have the right to be ....
I managed to get almost 20 minutes in before I rage quit.
Love for Runkle for covering this without completely blowing his lid.
To add to your point, as a defense attorney representing a teenager in the system sometimes it's the kid's own parents you have to protect them from too. I'm with you, this guy should NOT be a lawyer! Unless he's forced to put "can't be around minors" next to his name in the phone book, on advertising even on his office door. He'd have to walk around with that emblazoned on his suits because way too many people hear "lawyer" & would assume a kid would be safe. There's a certain level of public trust that comes with that job title, like cop, doctor, nurse, paramedic, firefighter. They are people we are supposed to trust at the worst moments of our lives. He's a threat to that.
I would suggest that everyone also make a complaint to the Toronto Star saying that this information has been missed in their report of the case, and link this video. If more people of the public are aware, then I think more pressure would be put on the courts to recognize this as a threat to the public.
Big mistake. What other lawyers with similar history have been admitted?
No one thought this through.
Right off the bat, the dishonesty seems like the big problem. People who lie when things get awkward are not the kind of person you want to place is awkward situations.
The "actives" that the dishonesty is about seem like something that should be concerning, but not automaticly "fatal". It's _possibly_ no more relevant than if a person is a _recovering_ alcoholic. Give me reason to think that relapse or blackmail ins't going to be a problem and I could see it being filed as "not an issue", but the burden of proof on producing that reasons is on them.
Down in the details of *this* specific case, the individual in question seems to come nowhere near the threshold of "giving me reason to think" the past conduct won't become a future problem.
If the guy had told the bar the truth about his past, and said, "I deeply regret my past actions and have reformed myself." I would say go for it and be a lawyer. However the fact that he has repeatedly lied about his past, I don't believe he has reformed at all and should be stopped from being a lawyer.
This dude doesn't care if anyone knows which kid he hurt. He doesn't care his own child is going to be doxxed by his becoming a lawyer. That alone says to me that he is not reformed and never will be. If anything it feels/looks like bragging and punishing a victim--his own child. Uuuugh.
What were they thinking?
?Is there a ban on naming the tribunal members?
?When he reoffends or r@pes a women, can the tribunal be sued? Or do they have immunity for stupid decisions?
This is disturbing. His non-disclosure is problematic, surely.
I think he only wants to be a lawyer so he can be closer to victims for his own personal reasons.
Reasonably upset.
"He lied about his past."
"He needs a chaperone around women and children."
"He is of good character."
One of these things is not like the other....
Yeah, I'd love to finish the video for the algorithm, but I am no legal professional, I'm as far from Canada as you can get, and quite frankly, listening to this makes my blood boil not just because of the crimes involved, the lack of oversight, and the disregard for the public, but because this entire thing makes a mockery of the reform process, and will do nothing more than reduce people's belief that reform is even possible. This is why we can't have nice criminal justice systems.
I know that YT likes to demonitize this content. Thank you for covering it regardless.
Horrifying is the right word. I'd say this is as bad as the Alberta judge who asked an SA victim why she couldn't just keep her legs closed, but that would be a lie. This is so very much worse.
I can’t past the fact that he was allowed to continue living with his child. Of course he is allowed to be someone else’s safe space as a lawyer, nobody protected the first person that needed to be protected, his own child.
How did this guy find time and money to get a law degree?!
This stinks. Seeing as his father has a law firm, this sounds like some favors have been cashed it or advocacy by a family friend - something, because this is abnormal.
What is the test for "good character?"
Yeah and they shouldn't be allowed to pay taxes nor have health care.. Much less work as garbage sorter or a lawyer. They shouldn't be allowed any means of income whatsoever.
Please keep following this. I’m horrified that anyone would think this is okay.
As a single woman and a momma, this would make me wary of seeking legal counsel if I were in this area.
This decision makes me almost want to check the tribunals moral character
They should just tell him no.
Wow. That's some real 1800s bias on part of the Ontario tribunal. Maybe even 1700s.
Um… WTF!?!? I whole heartedly agree with you Ian, anyone with certain backgrounds such as this guy should not be allowed to hold certain jobs regardless of their education/degree.
There are a lot of things he can do with a law degree that aren't being a lawyer. He should do something else.
I had a collegue who had to jump through a thousand hoops to become a fully licensed therapist after getting charged with a DUI. Yet this guy needs supervision to be near the people he will work for/with and most likely will still get his license? And I live in America... just yikes
This whole thing is appalling! I would think it is a sick joke but obviously it is deadly serious. Ridiculous..
In Texas it not possible to sentence child molesters to the death penalty. I find that unfortunate.
Oh gosh, I just reached the part about them just limiting his access to children but not to women. How can clients trust him?!
This person could be permitted to do legal research, draft briefs and the like but not under any circumstances be permitted to meet or have any contact with any clients. So he would be some sort of paralegal and not be admitted to the bar.
Please follow up on this. He should not be allowed to be a lawyer.
As someone who taught middle and high school for over a decade, I cannot FATHOM anyone becoming licensed in a profession where they might need to work with vulnerable people, with this kind of history. I thought I couldn't be shocked any more about r*pe culture in North America, but here we are.
No just no.
regardless as to rehabilitation- it's virtually impossible for him to abide by the clause of avoiding children while practicing law. On certain cases where other victims or witnesses are subpoenaed like i was recently, you may be put in a position where suddenly an attorney who thinks he's dealing with one thing gets in contact with them is now suddenly dealing with a case that involves some inappropriate conduct with a minor... and may or may not have a history of doing exactly that. exactly how do they plan on having him abide by that?
Go into entertainment law to write contracts and do contract enforcement for child actors, of course!
That's a joke, because from all the stories dating back to Shirley Temple, he would fit right in.
@@davidgoodnow269 Exactly! He could work for Nickelodeon! 🤮