[EN] PSG.LGD vs OG BO3 - The International 2019 Main Event

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  • @ChristianL3399
    @ChristianL3399 5 років тому +1826

    0:38 Draft 1
    12:09 - 1:14:04 Game 1
    1:33:00 Draft 2
    1:45:21 - 2:09:03 Game 2
    2:27:13 Draft 3
    2:40:19 - 3:22:49 Game 3

  • @arncj18
    @arncj18 4 роки тому +1659

    i rewatched ti8 finals , and this, and i think jerax might be the best dota 2 player of all time

    • @richatotlani5362
      @richatotlani5362 4 роки тому +285

      Jerax was the major reason they won 2 tis

    • @marcosousa4029
      @marcosousa4029 4 роки тому +109

      It is like he is doing nonsense random stuff. At first I dont understand shit of what he does.

    • @scalpmfb6120
      @scalpmfb6120 4 роки тому +58

      @@marcosousa4029 no, all the team and specialy Ceb the brain of the team

    • @Biccoso
      @Biccoso 4 роки тому +147

      Yeah i think so too, the way jerax give information to the others, and get angry when the others scared to man-up at TI8
      May be he is not in charge in drafting, but he knows everything while in-Game
      He have a skill and talent as captain, but friendship more important

    • @romeovillarojo599
      @romeovillarojo599 4 роки тому +207

      He's the third brain tbh. Notail and ceb strain themselves in strategy and etc while jerax can relax. When pressure comes, he's there to prevent them from making foolish mistakes due to stress. When you think too much, it's nice to have another brain to rely on

  • @WZ97U
    @WZ97U 5 років тому +2103

    LGD eats a tango : WOOOOAAAAAOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRR
    OG wins the series : *cricket noise*

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 4 роки тому +44

      Wilson Mong Kinda like the american crowd at TI6 finals?

    • @opgroundzero2.0
      @opgroundzero2.0 4 роки тому +184

      @@The_real_Arovor God you're ramming your head into every single comment that criticize the Chinese audience

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 4 роки тому +114

      OP Ground Zero 2.0 Yes because i hate racially biased bullshit.
      Americans cheered for EG and DC in a much more obnoxious way, like it was something that was that belonged to their country. (Constantly shouting „USA“).
      The chinese didn’t do that. They just rooted for their favorite team, which happened to be PSG.LGD for the majority of the audience.
      And now we get commenters who complain about something that used to be much worse when the tournament was held in their country. Fckin hypocrites!
      On top of that it‘s not even true, if you read the blog of Ceb, who actually played there. As a matter off fact, people came to congratulate them for the victory backstage. Something that wouldn’t happen in Europe or USA.
      So yeah, these clearly biased and racist comments trigger me quite a bit.

    • @ariellaranjo8259
      @ariellaranjo8259 4 роки тому +13

      @@The_real_Arovor it's okay, these ppl don't even think about patriotism

    • @Littlejacobh
      @Littlejacobh 4 роки тому +7

      Pretty sure it was just the audio during the winning moment. If you watch ti9 true sight people are clearly cheering

  • @lesterjohnescanlar5446
    @lesterjohnescanlar5446 4 роки тому +397

    This series is much more exciting and unpredictable compared to the actual championship series against liquid. LGD definitely gave OG the best fight of their run for TI9

    • @minhtrinh3646
      @minhtrinh3646 3 роки тому +33

      At that point in time the only team can match OG is LGD, and with that cocky pick SF in game vs Liquid cost them the chance to play final.

    • @gutenman7112
      @gutenman7112 3 роки тому +27

      liquid is terrible in the TI9 grandfinals, OG vs LGD is more entertaining , its like they are playing chess .

    • @user-st6bj3ks6d
      @user-st6bj3ks6d 3 роки тому +5

      Lgd was so cocky about that early sf pick then liquid cheesed wyvern happened

    • @johnwalker-fj5gy
      @johnwalker-fj5gy 2 роки тому +5

      @@gutenman7112 I thought the great TI beatdown was pretty entertaining

    • @beak_essence-
      @beak_essence- 2 роки тому

      wdym the last 2 games were 20 minutes stomps, just like the finals

  • @Jungbeck
    @Jungbeck 3 роки тому +159

    This should have been the finals. OG-LGD is an amazing matchup.
    Arguably the two best 4-position players ever in Jerax and fy. And one of, if not the most skilled mid player ever in Maybe. The most decorated player ever in notail.

    • @randomstuff2097
      @randomstuff2097 3 роки тому +6

      should have been if they didn't lose game 3 with SF mid vs best TA at that time

    • @beak_essence-
      @beak_essence- 2 роки тому +2

      I think they put up just as good of a fight as liquid did, winning the first game then getting stomped in 20 minutes for the other 2

    • @shreyanshusakarde7506
      @shreyanshusakarde7506 2 роки тому +5

      And two of the best carry players in ana and ame.

    • @k9rapsters
      @k9rapsters 2 роки тому

      .. PLL. ll zz ll llz0km. ll. ll ll l

    • @k9rapsters
      @k9rapsters 2 роки тому

      ol.l.
      .zpkp ll ll ll.. pp ll ll ll ll be mo ll pp ll ll l. ll

  • @Aciel_Yu
    @Aciel_Yu 5 років тому +77

    Love how Somnus/Maybe was so salty against OG. I remember back in Ti 7, when OG lost to LGD and Somnus was offering N0tail hug instead of handshakes like he had so much respect for the guy only because he was winning. Lost to OG twice in TI8, and now in TI 9 with the most emotionless and smirk handshake ever in both TIs.

  • @neednot22
    @neednot22 5 років тому +353

    One of the things that I learn after watching so many OG games and comparing it to their enemies is just, how synergized their picks is, and really how selfless their itemization and skill leveling in game

    • @TEENAGEDirtbag01
      @TEENAGEDirtbag01 4 роки тому +26

      Well thanks to ceb's coaching ofc. He's one of the greatest mind notail ever talk about when True sight in TI8.

    • @j.guavaru3630
      @j.guavaru3630 3 роки тому +7

      And most of they game win by comebacks~(broken english)

    • @buggart
      @buggart 3 роки тому +14

      From what I've seen, OG will sacrifice a hero if it means that they come out in an advantage. Doesn't matter if they will only be able to realease their ult in a fight, as long as it kills many of the enemies it is a plus in OG's book.

    • @aldrinmercado3475
      @aldrinmercado3475 3 роки тому +4

      Yep also very good at buybacks.. they will bait the enemy ult by sacrificing notail or jerax

    • @theunknown3632
      @theunknown3632 2 роки тому

      I don't think their picks has great synergy at all. If you remember the TI8 Finals, there was no combo just pure individual plays that connects very well. They just play the heroes they feel like playing on TI8 finals.

  • @wanderingbufoon
    @wanderingbufoon 5 років тому +214

    Announcer: “LGD”
    >crowd roars
    Announcer: “vs. OG”
    >global silence
    Also CN doto crowd after LGD loss:
    >crickets
    So satisfying. LGD deserve another shot at TI but screw the chinese. Crowd is so unsportsmanlike

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon 5 років тому +30

      @@AftermathRV that's because he is being professional and was considerate about his standing.
      Remember he did something that was unprofessional and that was in game 2 of LGD vs OG. He made that "where's the audience?" bit after the game.
      "respect teams" just check the blog of TNC and any other people.
      China hosting venues is so bad. You can check out other majors and such about their experiences in China. I am not just talking about teams here. I do mean the entire organization was treated poorly.
      Anyone that is not Chinese are mistreated. Teams did not even get chairs or even tables. They did not set up the rooms to accommodate for them. Everything was extremely bad.

    • @kevinreyhan209
      @kevinreyhan209 5 років тому +14

      The moment you said tnc, i knew instantly that you are those ppl who got butthurt bcz cingcong boo'ed your national team 🤣

    • @ryndrssn
      @ryndrssn 5 років тому

      @@AftermathRV can you sharw the link his channel?

    • @TEJR69
      @TEJR69 5 років тому +2

      I mean, yeah ... I've always been tought to respect and appreciate even the enemy/opponent and as most of you know, Chinese people do respect foreign teams, but honestly last year my neighbour called the cops because of the "loud yelling" which was the TI crowd, but this year even though she hates me even more and honestly bitches about every single thing I do (I envy old people because how buch of free time they have so they can bitch and poke about others) but this year, same room, same loudspakers, not a single word.
      Aye they cheered really well, but only for Chinese teams, whenever there was a play or absolute outsmart/outplay from other teams... as you said.
      >Crickets.
      By no means I mean this in a bad way towards Chinese people, they DO seem and feel like they have a somewhat of a "hatred" towards other countries, but it is honestly just a way of being shy and put in a situation which most of Asian countries don't know how to deal with.
      My friend was in Hong Kong 2 years back and he said, that the family he was staying at was at first really not talking with him or showing him anything, they just made him food and left the room. But at the end as he got to know them better, they were watching movies and laughing together like they knew each other since childhood.
      I guess most of the things here won't make much sence since I write this whilst changing my trains to get home, but hey... it's just a different culture, different people, different manners.
      Whenever I have to deal with people from Asia (for example where we had 10 Japanese people in our hotel) I sure feel somewhat uneasy when talking with them at first.
      Especially Japenese people when it comes to hotels they are rather ... picky if you could say over everything, but at the end of their trip they asked me if I'll take a photo with them since I helped them tromendously with almost everything.
      So yeah... not knowing how asian people are somewhat makes you feel they are really closed and only cheer for themselfs, but in reality they are the most polite and kind people I've ever met.
      Damn what a way to pass the time while traveling, shiiet

    • @TEJR69
      @TEJR69 5 років тому +2

      @Bazooka Joe Let's be honest, in the heat of the game (it was grand finale god dammit) emotions takes place and for example when Olympics were taking place in Sochi, I vividly remember a representative of my country was in the lead and a Swedish representative was catching up to him.
      I called him names like "Rotten fish eating fuckface" etc.
      But hell I'm moving to Sweden in a few years, I have friends there for years.
      My last fucking name is Swedish and my grand-grand---father was born in Sweden.
      It's just emotions and nothing else.
      And it's a part of every game, Videogame or Ice Hockey, there's always be hatered towards the team that isn't from your country, but in the end it's ONLY because of this one moment of being so close to victory and once it's gone fucking no one will say shit about the other country JUST because they were beaten by them or just was with them in grand finale.
      The only thing what it should do is to make the other team stronger and give the fans hope so they can have their "revenge" and have their own victory ... fuck, 25 more minutes until I arrive home ... been a long trip but hey, writing these long ass comments makes the travel go a lot faster

  • @quintingoynes704
    @quintingoynes704 3 роки тому +562

    Lol. Notail pulling an entire creep wave, denying an illusion rune and getting the enemy wave to Ana in mid with a single Chen creep was hilarious and genius.

    • @vincentong8954
      @vincentong8954 3 роки тому +14

      Time stamp?

    • @quintingoynes704
      @quintingoynes704 3 роки тому +31

      @@vincentong8954 2:48:29 for about a minute.

    • @vitalik6329
      @vitalik6329 3 роки тому +4

      Flow Flow

    • @mohdkhushairy7004
      @mohdkhushairy7004 3 роки тому +1

      Why he has to denied the illusion rune?

    • @maruramos5878
      @maruramos5878 3 роки тому +21

      @@mohdkhushairy7004 the rune is more beneficial to PSG because of the bottle from Tiny and also there is no way they can still get it because all their heroes are on the other side of the map while PSG's are near it because they just gank the bottom lane

  • @xavierazad
    @xavierazad 5 років тому +630

    2:40:10 - Me and the boys cheering for OG at the TI

    • @user-ti2xi9bd4u
      @user-ti2xi9bd4u 4 роки тому

      Utkarsh Kumar bruh 😂

    • @milo20060
      @milo20060 4 роки тому +10

      Absolutely perfect.

    • @sslime4649
      @sslime4649 4 роки тому

      Nay

    • @kazazaky2397
      @kazazaky2397 3 роки тому +1

      And that bias crowded overwhelm you guys, but hey winner is winner

    • @Umata05
      @Umata05 3 роки тому

      LOL THEY LITERALLY BROUGHT THE MEME CARDBOARD

  • @CheeKiatTeo
    @CheeKiatTeo 3 роки тому +41

    This is SUCh an underrated game. Especailly Game 3. They really utilised so many armor reducing synergies

  • @thazuala8511
    @thazuala8511 4 роки тому +416

    "i don't think they care about the desolator" topson almost killed ame with 1 anchor smash 🤣🤣

    • @bramorant5613
      @bramorant5613 4 роки тому +18

      Lmao

    • @DooMWhite
      @DooMWhite 4 роки тому +45

      And then he does it again with the diffusal, fucking Topson.

    • @gutenman7112
      @gutenman7112 3 роки тому +2

      He might not the deadliest mid player profesional but he certainly is one of the smartest and team focused mid player that gets the team to move forward

    • @ExzcellionGamma
      @ExzcellionGamma 2 роки тому +6

      Guess Blitz did not account on all the minus armor that OG have by then.
      Ame has 25 armor on base.
      OG can reduce any physical armor *by 37* ; and that's just from what I can see/recall.
      lmao.

  • @akorekore1701
    @akorekore1701 2 роки тому +19

    I feel like this is one of those series that you watch every now and then even years after it happened.

  • @SamuelHauptmannvanDam
    @SamuelHauptmannvanDam 4 роки тому +52

    Priceless moment: 32:12
    Crowd starts cheering for LGD then the probability meter comes up.
    - Priceless.

  • @deepakvenkatraman9868
    @deepakvenkatraman9868 5 років тому +97

    3:23:01 Caster quoting Omar from The Wire - "You come at the king, you best not miss."

    • @HahaLesbians
      @HahaLesbians 5 років тому +4

      That's become one of Blitz's favorite one liners. Love the Wire.

    • @kuroboss
      @kuroboss 4 роки тому

      Im omar

  • @faiqasyraf2022
    @faiqasyraf2022 5 років тому +148

    3:23:36 if you watch the true sight ti8 after 3rd game, psg.lgd crew said "if you win the next game, take off your jacket, take off the one outside" and n0tail did it after wining the 3rd game, nice revenge for cocky people :)

    • @ernesttanabaev7302
      @ernesttanabaev7302 4 роки тому +8

      Lol so eager for attention, taking off the jacket was at the final

    • @Rimanda
      @Rimanda 4 роки тому +12

      Thats not really cocky, more of how you force urself to stay positive with all the pressure around you, every pro player do that back stage( shitting on their enemy, or act like they gonna win) even OG, the team u worship

    • @arvinvilla7808
      @arvinvilla7808 4 роки тому

      Also a coincidence of LGD talking about winning at TI8, Liquid did the same at TI9 finals even before game 1 started, they both lost.

    • @azsolus7845
      @azsolus7845 2 роки тому

      Why does taking off the jacket matter?

  • @ShafwanMuldya
    @ShafwanMuldya 4 роки тому +27

    3:22:35 after rewatching this match i just realize sommnus legitimately letting ame frontline a full 6 slot +moonshard alchemist with 2 agh+damage, 250damage 30(-armor)tide hunter, and a 100something duel damage LC. no wonder they lost.. this tiny busy setting up trees and not looking for a tossback opportunity

    • @nutcracke16
      @nutcracke16 10 місяців тому +2

      the game was over at that point. 4v5 with exposed ancient

  • @rizqidss
    @rizqidss 5 років тому +477

    I do respect LGD, I just hate that kind of crowds. So lame. Thank's OG for shutting their mouth for good.

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 4 роки тому +16

      Rizqi ds i respect DC, I just hate that kind of crowds. So lame. Thanks Wings Gaming for shutting their mouth for good.

    • @candrarazaka4351
      @candrarazaka4351 4 роки тому +86

      @@The_real_Arovor
      In TI8, everyone still cheered up for both of OG and LGD, yet they didn't cheered up for VGJ.S or EG because they were fucked up in the main event.
      Here's the reason why chinese crowd considered as "the worst" by them :
      1. Chinese fans tend to be disrespectful to other teams playing against CN teams, for example : TNC booed during the event because of kuku and in TI8, and Chinese fans chanted "Go Home OG" yet they went home with aegis.
      2. Chinese seem to regarding any Chinese teams is representing China as "national team" meaning its China vs the World.
      3. Everyone respected for Wings for their dominant performance in TI6, of course they support DC, as they are both underdogs, but you can see the difference of Seattle and Shanghai crowd. Everyone enjoyed by entertaining matches during TI6 (even TNC vs OG it's a real hype) but Chinese didn't seem to enjoy games from non-Chinese teams, for example, the arena was very deserted during TI9 finals.
      I know you always stand up for Chinese fans and always comment on everyone that flaming Chinese crowd, but you might understand what's the reason behind their hatred.

    • @freakzuser
      @freakzuser 4 роки тому +21

      @@The_real_Arovor LGD fanboy just shut up

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 4 роки тому +10

      Candra Razaka Have you read Cebs blog? He thought it was quite different, and he was on the main stage.
      During the finals between Wings and DC the crowd was shouting „USA“ a lot of the time, much more obnoxious if you ask me.
      If you read my comments, you‘d see that it‘s not the criticism of the crowd that get’s me triggered, but the underlying racism and hypocrisy by american fans.
      They weren’t a better at all, as a matter of fact they were much more annoying with the constant „USA, USA, USA“ chanting in both TI’s where EG and DC were in the finals. It’s that obnoxious, self-indulgent, hypocritical, racist behaviour against china in this comment section that grinds my gears.

    • @candrarazaka4351
      @candrarazaka4351 4 роки тому +45

      @@The_real_Arovor well yelling about USA is fine as long as you don't insult other teams/countries right?
      When I saw live in TI8 Chinese crowd started to shout "go home OG" in the game which eventually OG won and finally took the aegis.
      Yes they are some good Chinese fans but, the majority? The crowd booed OG after they lost the first game (probably because of their tilting strats) but then won the series and also TNC where they started to boo them even after they entered the stage and according to Tims, he experienced that there are Chinese fans who followed them to their hotel and shouted swear words for them.
      I never judged Chinese fans but if you're siding them that they are innocent comparing to American crowd, it's not completely true as you thought. I watched almost every live games and experienced that chinese fans are just that salty because no chinese team went to the finals as a champion, even last TI not every single of their team made it to the finals.
      Don't forget Chinese community also blamed Ame hard after his misplays in the finals, I gotta say it's everyone's first TI final (besides Fy) and you had a lot of pressure playing those games.
      Also that's actually how sport works. They will always be a haters and lovers of any certain team.

  • @mbeemxs
    @mbeemxs 5 років тому +64

    btw, jerax forget to pick up his jacket after game 3

    • @mbeemxs
      @mbeemxs 5 років тому +1

      @@ninik0517 lmao

    • @nadiariskyputri
      @nadiariskyputri 5 років тому +1

      @@ninik0517 lol same man same

  • @dunamiscrisostomo5441
    @dunamiscrisostomo5441 5 років тому +100

    ove how the crowd drastically mutes at 2:05:50 haha opxx moment for them

  • @honeyboiii
    @honeyboiii 4 роки тому +143

    This game seemed more challenging for OG than the actual finals lmao

    • @madwolf2202
      @madwolf2202 3 роки тому +17

      It s too easy to win against lolquid, tier 3 bottom 8 team

    • @pulsebear
      @pulsebear 3 роки тому +35

      sorry for reviving this comment thread, its too bad lgd got tilted after this match, they were playing sloppy after this.

    • @jiesheng2746
      @jiesheng2746 7 місяців тому +1

      looking back at it now, LGD could very well be the best team in the world at any timeline, too bad they were at a time where OG at its peak

  • @lhestercabingan1667
    @lhestercabingan1667 3 роки тому +646

    How rich is dota2? Watching 3hours video without any ads! LMFAO

    • @smoothbombastic8684
      @smoothbombastic8684 3 роки тому +14

      spot on.

    • @hrono6327
      @hrono6327 3 роки тому +6

      @O Ki. O

    • @hrono6327
      @hrono6327 3 роки тому +2

      @@zenwasneverhere o N. K pop o. N. O o no o k o. O play o. .

    • @amadeux5471
      @amadeux5471 3 роки тому +17

      Steam makes thousands upon thousands of dollars every day lol. I don't think they would give a shit about some youtube ads

    • @christopherbohorquez2413
      @christopherbohorquez2413 3 роки тому

      @@zenwasneverhere PeYo un yeio uyy yeruuttiut en ewttuuykyyp

  • @VendErre
    @VendErre 4 роки тому +33

    HEAR ME VALVE, I SUMMONO YOU. some of these shots are fantastic, that camera work. At 7:33, those little sqecks of fairy dust floating infront of that gorgeously lit crowd. Amazing. Or the gyros shot immediately following that, having him large and menacing bearing down on the enemy team. Lovely stuff. Get that man a raise. Get em all a raise.

  • @khaiii9121
    @khaiii9121 4 роки тому +241

    LGD fans literally anything LGD does : WOARHHHHH
    LGD loses : global silence activated

    • @lumine8364
      @lumine8364 4 роки тому +16

      What can i say man the main stage is at China it's in Shanghai i think but still the worst crowd ever on TI not like the other TI the crowd is cheering for the winner to they respect each other even they fav team is loses
      LGD eat Tango Chinese crowd: WoooooOoOoOhhHhHh
      OG winning TI: global silence
      But i see some of the LGD fans cheering to i think it's only 5 guy lol

    • @РамильРодыгин
      @РамильРодыгин 3 роки тому

      Отог от Гог и -но оо гш отологияо то Готье о г тыгг гнёту То о оо гтгн огонь т. О то т о. О ггт. Теть о горит. Ггт год о ото дня то лобовое от гггг о оо тяготой. О Шт. Лишь. От. Шт ггт. Т. Тот тьг тот Гтгтоттт оттто оттттоот ть. Т то. от смеси гог. ОтНу гтвет отолотооотттг. Шт от т. Шт тут. Тут. От оНу гттт. Теть теть. Ну. ГоНу ты гг

    • @raynaldojust9n928
      @raynaldojust9n928 3 роки тому

      absolutely perfect~

  • @rumbajuice
    @rumbajuice 5 років тому +345

    Faced OG thrice. Lost everytime. FeelsBadMan

    • @BrianDG1001
      @BrianDG1001 5 років тому

      xD

    • @levisamom5069
      @levisamom5069 5 років тому +17

      Nah it's 4 times...and lgd won once
      Granted that was a different roster for both teams but still

    • @vanixiii5657
      @vanixiii5657 4 роки тому +72

      @@levisamom5069 well if we're talking about this roster of OG: Ceb, JerAx, n0Tail, topson, Ana
      Lgd: Somnus, FY, xnova, chalice, ame
      OG has a 3-0 record against this roster with that roster...

    • @kenzoshiki9389
      @kenzoshiki9389 4 роки тому

      @@vanixiii5657 they lose at upperbracket for 2nd place at TI8

    • @chazukire6722
      @chazukire6722 4 роки тому +16

      @@kenzoshiki9389 You need to watch TI8 again to realize your mistake there

  • @adrenaline8100
    @adrenaline8100 5 років тому +69

    Slark : guysss our base is under attack maybe someone anyone come and help me ???
    Tiny: HOLD ON I AM PLANTING MA TREESS ITS MAA PRIORITRESSS
    *Radiant victory*

    • @minhnhat5813
      @minhnhat5813 5 років тому

      Save the planet :)))))

    • @solomonthegreat290
      @solomonthegreat290 5 років тому +27

      Legend says somnus is still planting trees and rtz is still farming
      TI8 Drama Lesson
      TI9 Agricultural Lesson

    • @linko9720
      @linko9720 5 років тому +5

      cant wait till TI10, what lesson will we learn

    • @pemudanetizen4286
      @pemudanetizen4286 4 роки тому +1

      Minute pls

    • @vanixiii5657
      @vanixiii5657 4 роки тому

      @@linko9720 if you miss your shot against the kings they'll turn their back to back into a dynasty

  • @xXxBladeStormxXx
    @xXxBladeStormxXx 5 років тому +30

    OG vs PSG.LGD game 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. I still remember the TI9 interview when Ame sarcastically says "OG is also really strong..." while they held back laughter.
    Then here we are, second year in a row exact same place where they lost their third consecutive TI series against OG.
    As for the game itself, it was brilliant! Topson on tide with the armor corruption build was genius. The way the game transitioned from all focus being on Ana as the strongest on the map to out of nowhere Topson appearing and destroying everyone is a bit like OGs own story in TI8 as well.

    • @xXxBladeStormxXx
      @xXxBladeStormxXx 5 років тому +10

      ​@@chasse-nigb3r
      1. No, it was sarcastic.
      2. Those interview videos were made before day 1 of TI9 so there goes that point into the trash.
      3. Before TI9 started OG **was** considered one of the weaker teams and not much of a threat. Most teams didn't even scrim with them thinking it would be a waste of time.

  • @blur-8959
    @blur-8959 4 роки тому +270

    Thank you OG for shutting their mouth

  • @Zh-dy1ge
    @Zh-dy1ge 4 роки тому +83

    I like the moment of the crowd from cheering to silence. Especially 3:18:08

  • @zawse9003
    @zawse9003 4 роки тому +77

    3:09:39 look at Ana on booth when fy Banished him and avoided xNova's stomp 🤣😂🤣

  • @mbeemxs
    @mbeemxs 5 років тому +74

    OG draft so weird thats why OG so strong, "versality of hero combination ". i think thats the key

    • @summerwarmth7931
      @summerwarmth7931 5 років тому +11

      Legion commander looked useless in this game but actually he saved and initiated the most war fights. OG really worthy to get two tis

    • @Mr022588
      @Mr022588 5 років тому

      yeah..their meta is not a normal meta we usually see..their meta is something else

    • @areaofeffect100
      @areaofeffect100 5 років тому +1

      well actually. the chinese started the 113 gameplay that is why Ceb doesnt to conform to it so he adapted the old style of dota. the free play

    • @pemudanetizen4286
      @pemudanetizen4286 4 роки тому

      Jerax key of og

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon 4 роки тому +10

      Summer Warmth those press the attack and overwhelming odds are good saves, nukes, and CC. They didnt have much of those so LC was crucial. The job of LC here wasnt to gain duel pts. The duel is just a means to isolate. Its really her buffs and long range nukes.

  • @kurotsuchi6015
    @kurotsuchi6015 4 роки тому +28

    55:20 REACTION FROM JERAX IS 0.o

  • @seanrobles6564
    @seanrobles6564 4 роки тому +20

    LGD gets a last hit
    OG:
    Caster:
    Mouse:
    PC:
    Icefrog:
    Chinese Crowd:
    WOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    Mean while OG becomes 2x TI Champions
    Chinese Croud:
    Everybody Else: WOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @projmasteryt2850
    @projmasteryt2850 4 роки тому +149

    LGD: “Best turtling team OG”
    guess who’s turtling now

    • @happymaguire2325
      @happymaguire2325 4 роки тому

      ProjMaster YT what is turtling?

    • @62eru
      @62eru 4 роки тому +28

      @@happymaguire2325 a very heavy late-game oriented playstyle

    • @vanixiii5657
      @vanixiii5657 4 роки тому +28

      @@62eru I always saw it as playing heavy defense as in not going past tier 3's and making the enemy come to you and make a mistake hence the name you just hide in your "Shell"(base) and well...turtle..

    • @arvinvilla7808
      @arvinvilla7808 4 роки тому +2

      it's intentionally dragging the game to let your hard carry farm to win the game at late game. Watch ti8 finals game 1.

    • @divinerhitta6516
      @divinerhitta6516 4 роки тому

      cant even turtle against a turtling team haha, shell too weak

  • @rodwinhayashou
    @rodwinhayashou 4 роки тому +43

    2:25:33 topson combs his hair to transform into chadson XD

  • @azifazeez
    @azifazeez 3 роки тому +24

    OG wins WEU Open Qualis!
    Yall better be ready!

  • @cubbykeow6807
    @cubbykeow6807 4 роки тому +40

    2:09:15
    ceb : where's the crowd? i can't hear you~

  • @erikalaurel8693
    @erikalaurel8693 2 роки тому +23

    All OG LGD series needs a true sight!!!

  • @mrsrandommademedoit3387
    @mrsrandommademedoit3387 5 років тому +45

    You saw it in that last game.. OG just outplayed LGD. The individual skill of OG is much much higer than LGD.. come back from that far behind. amazing

    • @satadhi
      @satadhi 4 роки тому +6

      no its purely Notail and ceb game reading skills ! you put ana and topson in any other team they will look average

    • @solomonthegreat290
      @solomonthegreat290 4 роки тому +22

      Satadhi Halder
      nahhh,...actually its the whole squad who'r amazing
      take a single player in OG's current roster and their team coordination will crumble
      The current roster of OG rn are the definition of perfection

    • @TheAskald
      @TheAskald 4 роки тому

      People overanalyze everything. A game at such a high level is decided on tiny details. There's no such thing as a "best team" or "best pos x" in the world.

    • @solomonthegreat290
      @solomonthegreat290 4 роки тому +2

      TheAskald
      there is actually best team/position, but only depends and based on how people scale it.
      Drafts is a big role in the entire game
      having or being good in drafting phase can lead a team to victory
      draft may seems small detail for such the scale of 1 game in dota
      but draft can decide the entire match
      so basically speaking, if a team that can take good drafts and win games, they can be considered and can be called one of the best
      in position roles, there is called rank system, if you base best position x in terms of rank system, there actually is a rank for it, but if base it on the performance of the biggest tournament(ti), then there is statistics on it
      if people based it on games played in Rank Mode(public games)
      Crit never won a single Ti, but base on ranking system, he is considered as top1 which can easily be called as the best
      JerAx is not considered rank 1 in support role, but base in his statistics & performance in TI(ti8, especially ti9), he can be easily be called MVP in the support roles, his great role performance during grandfinals in ti9 is one of the reason that leads their team to victory, even the captain of their opponent(kuroky) said that Jesse, is one of the best

    • @TheAskald
      @TheAskald 4 роки тому

      @@solomonthegreat290 What I meant is that the gap between teams is almost inexistent, they're really close. I love OG but they almost get kicked out by EG and LGD in 2019 for example, it was decided on basically nothing.
      Winning a TI do requires plenty of things OG has, but it also requires a bit of luck for sure. The final against Liquid was the only stomp (they managed to do 4-0 in a Bo3 somehow lol)

  • @arvinkimatienza8544
    @arvinkimatienza8544 4 роки тому +343

    Petition to make a true sight about this legendary rematch

    • @kittitadtanruangsri3738
      @kittitadtanruangsri3738 4 роки тому +6

      👣👣≧ω≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦

    • @kittitadtanruangsri3738
      @kittitadtanruangsri3738 4 роки тому +3

      Look OK loopy pppoppp loops ≧ω≦≧ω≦≧ω≦

    • @dillonmcculley8224
      @dillonmcculley8224 4 роки тому +3

      Guess what

    • @SelesaiKerja
      @SelesaiKerja 4 роки тому +1

      what?

    • @riduma
      @riduma 4 роки тому +12

      This is good and all, but I'd rather have the 1st OG - EG upper bracket match. That's where the drama was.

  • @Alibadbad
    @Alibadbad 4 роки тому +36

    philippines has the best crowd , manila major
    like finals everygame

    • @vcas2911
      @vcas2911 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah pinoy should own their own Sea server.

  • @9one984
    @9one984 3 роки тому +81

    watching this for like the 2nd times, you will noticed how OG layered that draft so good at game 3. That Tide pick for Topson will looked weird from the start but if you think about it, he will be a support for ana with his vlad & medalion build at early game but if for some reason LGD manage to slow down ana farm then Topson's Tide can be the turn point on later phase with his deso and damage talent build.
    Also since they have Ceb on Legion they actually have the perfect combo with ravage to hold down one hero and blast it with full anchor smash damage.

  • @ysl3366
    @ysl3366 4 роки тому +46

    *00:13* Febby’s face lmao LOLQOOOP

  • @nimluikham11
    @nimluikham11 4 роки тому +13

    2:07:27
    "Takes a few shots from the fountain, no big deal, dances it off." 😂😂😂😂

  • @PolarisNorthStar123
    @PolarisNorthStar123 Рік тому +4

    its TI season again. Time to rewatch the match-up of one of the greatest rivalries of all time.

  • @secretstoryofthe12
    @secretstoryofthe12 3 роки тому +8

    Win or lose this coming TI10 this OG team was the best team dota has ever seen

  • @theprofessor864
    @theprofessor864 3 роки тому +11

    2:05:59 🤣 Ana Alchemist recovering and surging out with his hands up gets me everytime

  • @romulusdraco1801
    @romulusdraco1801 4 роки тому +51

    1:46:24 "it's gonna be brok... its gonna be so good"

  • @themusicalexplorer1141
    @themusicalexplorer1141 4 роки тому +28

    Blitz: Topson tide mid? I think he's bringing something that we've never seen before
    Dendi at Ti3: Am I a joke?

  • @aushafabyan7177
    @aushafabyan7177 5 років тому +106

    3:02:54 200IQ play from Ana to toggle off the radiance so shadow demons illu don't get radiance effect

    • @VinceAnimation
      @VinceAnimation 4 роки тому +1

      Dude anyone would do that in that kind of situation. 😑

    • @christiandaveusaraga3172
      @christiandaveusaraga3172 4 роки тому +2

      HAHAHAHA seriously dude? Is it the first time you saw that thing?

    • @markashleymacatangay2874
      @markashleymacatangay2874 4 роки тому +53

      yah guys, sure anyone can do that in the biggest tournament on the game in the middle of the fight.
      anyone.

    • @SamuelHauptmannvanDam
      @SamuelHauptmannvanDam 4 роки тому +6

      @@VinceAnimation I didn't even know it was a thing. xD

    • @jerichovillanueva1535
      @jerichovillanueva1535 4 роки тому

      @@markashleymacatangay2874 that's so ez u just noob

  • @potatowarrior88
    @potatowarrior88 3 роки тому +14

    3:23:32 OG literally just won the series and the crowds still chanting
    "LGD LGD LGD LDG LGD LGD LGD LGD"

  • @johnwhiff4790
    @johnwhiff4790 5 років тому +135

    2:09:15 ceb thug life HAHAHAHAHA

  • @EyebrowsGaming
    @EyebrowsGaming 4 роки тому +139

    Me: China crowd bad
    SimplySimon: I'm boutta end this man's whole career.

    • @candrarw5245
      @candrarw5245 4 роки тому +28

      lmao, as you can see he never accepted the truth about those biased crowd.
      anyway, go home OG (with 2 aegis and 26 million dollars).

    • @harshitsoni8243
      @harshitsoni8243 4 роки тому +24

      for people here, SimplySimon is an SJW in the comments criticizing everyone who is speaking the truth.

    • @yes-um9ic
      @yes-um9ic 4 роки тому +9

      Lol, he can't accept reality

    • @bunnygummybear9818
      @bunnygummybear9818 4 роки тому +8

      guy probably is from the 50 cent army

    • @nytrify
      @nytrify 4 роки тому +2

      how soft. so a home crowd cant even support their own team now? another reason why media doesnt wanna consider esport as a real sport

  • @vidtothejonas
    @vidtothejonas 5 років тому +25

    Lag was due to Cebs Trove Carafe Immortal on NP. Lags in mid lane when he uses his ult.

    • @renmanalang4339
      @renmanalang4339 5 років тому +1

      No thats the chinese cant win without cheating

    • @lifeofapotato4595
      @lifeofapotato4595 5 років тому +6

      yeah the fps drop bug

    • @battleform518
      @battleform518 5 років тому +2

      @@renmanalang4339 I'm a pinoy myself but damn boy, you gotta remember that China have won 3 TI, they're the most dominant country that plays Dota 2. Cheating this, cheating that. All excuses.

    • @Ducky-vl7mp
      @Ducky-vl7mp 5 років тому +6

      @@battleform518 LMAO EU won 4 TI's what are you talking about?

    • @battleform518
      @battleform518 5 років тому +5

      @@Ducky-vl7mp are you serious? are you really this dumb? How many country are there in EU?

  • @jeremygonzal8603
    @jeremygonzal8603 3 роки тому +4

    Yes, fy is great, no doubt. But a theme I noticed is, jerax moves are meant to win if not dominate. fy moves are meant to not lose. I've watched these games again and again and again from TI8 until this one and that's the main difference I've noticed.

  • @kuyakim5304
    @kuyakim5304 5 років тому +182

    3:22:34 LMAO TINY PLANTING TREES SO HE CAN VOLLEY

    • @Kee_Ky
      @Kee_Ky 5 років тому +3

      Blink and help Slark better lol

    • @vergil3872
      @vergil3872 5 років тому +21

      @Ja La trees arent useless tho unlike the chinese

    • @wachumeqimeqi
      @wachumeqimeqi 5 років тому +3

      nice number. 322

    • @g_y.rtz420
      @g_y.rtz420 4 роки тому +2

      Oh god i just noticed this now, fucking smart but that explains why the slark was suddenly left alone. Moment of brilliance or game losing mistake?

    • @xtianthemadman
      @xtianthemadman 4 роки тому

      and that's the reason why Ironwood Tree was added. Kappa

  • @mickeyari2628
    @mickeyari2628 5 років тому +79

    they celebrated winning this series, more than the finals cus they know lgd the only team that has any chance of beating them lol

    • @simplilumanglas5367
      @simplilumanglas5367 3 роки тому +6

      Actually, that win was more satisfying for them because they finally vanquished all the ti8 doubters

  • @itsLeoAngelol
    @itsLeoAngelol 5 років тому +29

    This ain't no fluke son!
    All they needed was Topson....(and Ana....and Jerax...and NOtail....and Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!)

  • @mordekhaimakahanap890
    @mordekhaimakahanap890 4 роки тому +10

    in this TI, OG just took the whole tournament, their core took the first and second place for KPM, and the rest of it took it for APM. unbelieveable

  • @zer0sy51
    @zer0sy51 4 роки тому +30

    That smile... That damn smile.. Thank you jerax❤️🖤

  • @vaughnalexander31
    @vaughnalexander31 5 років тому +416

    worst crowd in history of TI

    • @billymahaputra4263
      @billymahaputra4263 5 років тому +42

      *history of DotA

    • @ryndrssn
      @ryndrssn 5 років тому +45

      Yeah very unsportsmanlike, but atleast they didn't boo non local teams.

    • @22AliensG
      @22AliensG 5 років тому +21

      Roy AnderssoN except tnc tho

    • @lbp7693
      @lbp7693 5 років тому +1

      @Kyo Surisaki timestamp pls

    • @cjderes1289
      @cjderes1289 5 років тому +30

      No more TI in chingkwang plss

  • @animaltrainer88
    @animaltrainer88 4 роки тому +44

    I love how they made chin*se crowd shut up. lol.

    • @Kews19
      @Kews19 4 роки тому +10

      no need to censor chinese tho

    • @Sputin
      @Sputin 3 роки тому

      @@Kews19 saying ch*nese sounds like a swear word

    • @mkmllrc
      @mkmllrc 3 роки тому

      @@Sputin lite version of CC remarks

  • @randomdogma6744
    @randomdogma6744 4 роки тому +78

    2:06:50 this combo is so well coordinated its mindblowing.

  • @magnuscordoviz2174
    @magnuscordoviz2174 3 роки тому +30

    Jerax is like a Chess Grandmaster playing dota2, Everything falls into place according to his plan.

    • @sumitn3wa
      @sumitn3wa 3 роки тому

      All team is making plan,dota is team game😄

  • @luale65
    @luale65 5 років тому +52

    3:22:36 CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBBB!!!

    • @linko9720
      @linko9720 5 років тому

      HE GETS THE CALL OF HIS LIFETIME

    • @medskifear
      @medskifear 3 роки тому

      Ceb: I'm Goin in on Slark

  • @jamesu7054
    @jamesu7054 3 роки тому +1

    after 10 years im gonna watch this again... probably a new god will be born

  • @azelaniniky1
    @azelaniniky1 3 роки тому +12

    34:02 Hillarious af, Ame's joke has no counter.

  • @OHOHOHCOME
    @OHOHOHCOME 5 років тому +38

    Notice how no other team in TI history has shown so much passion for getting to the grand final as OG even after winning a TI once.

    • @markhenry8391
      @markhenry8391 4 роки тому +4

      NaVi?

    • @michaelbryanorbon8196
      @michaelbryanorbon8196 4 роки тому +1

      You are probably not here since TI1. Or you just ignore Navi.

    • @OHOHOHCOME
      @OHOHOHCOME 4 роки тому

      @@michaelbryanorbon8196 Navi didn't win TI twice therefore they were not excited.

    • @michaelbryanorbon8196
      @michaelbryanorbon8196 4 роки тому +5

      @@OHOHOHCOME They were not excited? Are u saying Navi wasn't excited when they were playing grand final back to back to back? And apparently u don't even know that they went 3 times consecutively on grand final and you are here saying they weren't passionate enough.

    • @michaelbryanorbon8196
      @michaelbryanorbon8196 4 роки тому +2

      And u dumb piece of shit, u cant even interpret your own comment. U were talking about getting to grand final even after winning a TI. Clearly, you are an OG bandwagon, and prolly weren't here when NaVi put on a legendary run for TIs.

  • @joshm3915
    @joshm3915 4 роки тому +31

    2:46:43
    Jerax : The next level play!
    Jerax : **destroys an observer ward**
    Like what chinese crowd would cheer for if it's LGD, lol

  • @haquehaque4027
    @haquehaque4027 4 роки тому +103

    Pro player : Pausing the game because FPS drop at 70
    Me : crying a lot in 40 fps

    • @jeshergarcinez8207
      @jeshergarcinez8207 4 роки тому +1

      Really dude? That computer dropped into 70fps? Whoah

    • @jeshergarcinez8207
      @jeshergarcinez8207 4 роки тому

      I thought the game has crashed or something

    • @otarenox
      @otarenox 4 роки тому +18

      If you think about it 70 FPS out of team fight it’s ok but in team fight the FPS drops always even if you have usually like 250 will drop at least 20 or 30. They use 144hz monitors, so 70 FPS is bad

    • @jeshergarcinez8207
      @jeshergarcinez8207 4 роки тому +1

      @@otarenox ahh that explains everything

    • @otarenox
      @otarenox 4 роки тому

      @@jeshergarcinez8207 Anytime n_n

  • @princeofsomnia7664
    @princeofsomnia7664 5 років тому +80

    who's stronger? og or that table 38:02

  • @godblessme1235
    @godblessme1235 4 роки тому +39

    once again, the "tusk king" lose to a team that called fluke.

  • @Jupex
    @Jupex 4 роки тому +22

    LGD and choking at rosh pit. What a classic combo.

  • @rodwinhayashou
    @rodwinhayashou 3 роки тому +11

    One of many reason i like this video is the thumbnail of JerAx smiling, goddamn he's gorgeous lol

  • @sectumsempra4695
    @sectumsempra4695 4 роки тому +15

    rewatching OG such a moodbooster.

  • @imnotshrek870
    @imnotshrek870 2 роки тому +6

    3:22:54 The way they celebrate after winning is like the whole squad passed the final exam

  • @naiteakhiangte1773
    @naiteakhiangte1773 5 років тому +11

    Topson's Tide and Ceb's Legion doesn't seems their favourite hero pool, but it fits the game/draft and their team. Such is their flexibility and versatility and their command in/of the game (of this patch)...
    GG OG

    • @solomonthegreat290
      @solomonthegreat290 5 років тому +2

      2:25:51 it is all because of Socks notes, he wrote it before the game, and gave it to Ceb and Notail, watch it before this timestamp

    • @chasse-nigb3r
      @chasse-nigb3r 4 роки тому

      Cebs legion is very good ,his game against fnatic with his build and itemization and what he did to delay the timber pressuring the lane was MVP like for that game ,sure he didn't have the best damage game and great kill score/streak but his knowledge on the game as well as all of OG trusting their timing is perfect

    • @solomonthegreat290
      @solomonthegreat290 4 роки тому +2

      2:23:40 Socks passing notes for draft phase, Socks actually wrote the heroes Picks & Bans notes before this game, I cant remember the timestamps
      2:25:51 Ceb readinf the draft

  • @mgdf44
    @mgdf44 5 років тому +43

    "absolutely" word of TI9

  • @tiagochang746
    @tiagochang746 4 роки тому +12

    2:40:06 probably this is the greatest part of the whole crowd

  • @dashaw3255
    @dashaw3255 4 роки тому +5

    watching it again in 2020 to hear the sound of 100000 shattering delicate Chinese heart.

  • @raymondhartono
    @raymondhartono 4 роки тому +11

    the last game went from madness to insanity, epic series

  • @danieljordani3944
    @danieljordani3944 4 роки тому +7

    that was a really mind games even for the audiences. OG purposely lost the fight for a sec and then crush LGD so they could make chinese ppl who was cheering LGD up as if was cheering for them.

    • @JatakhaSanguinius
      @JatakhaSanguinius 4 роки тому

      I mean the crowd deserved that for being such lopsided against og

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 4 роки тому

      Gesang Phandito Why, did you here the games in TI6 and TI5? The crowd constantly chanting „USA, USA“ was way more annoying. If your team is here you should cheer for it, just not in an obnoxious american way plz.
      Also, plz read this: 7ckngmad.wordpress.com

  • @abangsaefbjj4265
    @abangsaefbjj4265 3 роки тому +59

    Who's here after Ana retired? 😢

  • @satriaaliakbar509
    @satriaaliakbar509 5 років тому +51

    2:48:50 smartest support, 200 IQ OMG support life choosed him

    • @TEENAGEDirtbag01
      @TEENAGEDirtbag01 4 роки тому +1

      Well notail is a support wayback he started playing dota 2 bruh. So it's no big deal, but I think he's mindset about the game changed over time. Truly, one of the best support gameplay I've ever seen in a long while.

    • @shevin7515
      @shevin7515 4 роки тому

      chose* not choosed

    • @smasdsee5046
      @smasdsee5046 4 роки тому

      @@shevin7515 u also get it wrong quite funny

  • @renierhidalgo8157
    @renierhidalgo8157 3 роки тому +12

    Imagine TI10 Grand Finals: LGD VS OG PART 3 (Both with changed rosters)

  • @aminrosli9744
    @aminrosli9744 5 років тому +14

    I just wanna see post game 3 events

  • @aify5371
    @aify5371 5 років тому +96

    3:21:11 Ana SWING IT AWAY!

  • @cuboine
    @cuboine 2 роки тому +4

    Man, I miss this so much. Not even TI, just the LANs. So much fun hearing the cheers

  • @peacechan4500
    @peacechan4500 4 роки тому +7

    Yep seeing this again confirm my belief that jerax is the sole reason this team can play their nutty strat
    In chemistry term he is the catalyst of OG team without him OG won't have a buttery smooth play

    • @mina-kfpunemployedemployee6708
      @mina-kfpunemployedemployee6708 4 роки тому

      Lets see next ti

    • @imranak12
      @imranak12 3 роки тому +3

      The man accomplishes so much with so little. Notail doesnt even have to tell him what to do, he just does his little poking here and there and its effective

  • @michaelsagusara4258
    @michaelsagusara4258 3 роки тому +5

    3:23:33 the fact that Jerax forgot his jacket on the seat showed how happy he was.

  • @realstevenash
    @realstevenash 4 роки тому +12

    Still recommended 2020 XD

  • @mgdf44
    @mgdf44 5 років тому +22

    357 left lgd, because he didn't ban Alc, now he get all blame.

    • @seino8890
      @seino8890 5 років тому +10

      lol really? well chinese should never play lololololololol

    • @ronaldenecordero1798
      @ronaldenecordero1798 4 роки тому +1

      Wow they blame the coach that got them to Grand finals

  • @imranak12
    @imranak12 3 роки тому +6

    That FY LION game 1 was flawless

  • @San4351
    @San4351 4 роки тому +6

    you know it's an awesome win when you sabotage the crowd as well!

  • @bagustaufiq2249
    @bagustaufiq2249 4 роки тому +14

    2:48:58 the next lavel farm from OG

  • @sleepingwithesirens9397
    @sleepingwithesirens9397 3 роки тому +19

    I was enjoying how the crowd reacts When LGD gets a kill there so Hyped 🤣. But at the End OG wins 😁

  • @yanyancrimson5635
    @yanyancrimson5635 3 роки тому +3

    Caster: " they look really happy !"
    Ana: 😑

  • @cappuqqino
    @cappuqqino 2 роки тому +3

    New player here. Ti8 and ti9’s og are what made me want to pick up the game

  • @gr11n33
    @gr11n33 4 роки тому +15

    2:39:25 She's nodding to their chinese like she understands lmaos

  • @JayRoseDEmber
    @JayRoseDEmber 4 роки тому +27

    i heard someone said to LGD last ti8 final 'REVENGE NEXT YEAR', they not even got to the finals :D