Ceb, in my opinion, is the single greatest player to ever play Dota not just because of his skill/strategy but his ability to help his teammates control their emotions.
Feel so bad for liquid coach rmN after rewatch this true sight. He suggests to ban ember, denied by kuro and ember instant picked by og. Stating enigma was the problem after game 2 and denied by kuro. Suggest to snatch tiny pick after game 3 and denied AGAIN by kuro. He was so afraid when his idea turn down by kuro and stop discussing afterwards. And he still with them while they failed to getting to TI twice. For me, rmN is like Nisha in secret, he deserves better.
honest question - I never noticed rmN giving any suggestions (infact, I didn't notice him) in True Sight at all. Do you mind giving me a few timestamps of this happening?
1:18:12 that’s absolutely insane how strong Kuro is. After even losing TI final, he admitted that “OG is the best“. Truly, one of the most iconic moments of TI
@@bobbykyn0 thats true, but he is the captain for a reason. he sticked to his conviction because the team trusts him. they would not have been there if it werent for him.
Notice how no one in OG questioned Topson's diffusal build on Gyro, that makes them a cut above the rest compared to the other teams, their trust on each other is so huge.
That's so fucking true, because Topson is like a midlaner and offlaner in 1. He also the best midlaner and very dominant even only having 1 or 2 items. Like he will run on you every time he see an opportunity.
I can't overstate how much I heckin' love GH. He seems like such a genuinely nice chap who is constantly having the best time just playing DOTA. I hope they get back to their best soon. :)
gh was the team's Ceb but they always shut him up. It was sad. The True Sight didn't really show Kuro's mental frustration and how negatively he impacted the team. There were many moments when he told his team to be OG. Moments where he shuts them up (granted, his team did fall for the ench jebait in Game 1). MC and w33 didn't want to do Tide/TA combo in Game 3 and yet they still picked it. Miracle was silent. Gh buckles down. Kuro flew off the handle plentiful of times. I think those clips were shown in the original TrueSight or perhaps it was in the livestream but it was brutal when I watched it.
@@wanderingbufoon Man when he told MC to be like Ceb, and he replied to Kuro , how he plays what do you want me to do and the frustration and sadness was in his face , this is next level fucked up shit.
I don't think there's any player like Ceb on the other team. He's the one that give you psychological support and comfort you to keep yourself cool and stable
TBH what makes True Sight for TI8 and TI9 is Ceb motivational speeches. It adds that feeling inside you like i don't know how to explain but it's so fucking good. Like you're watching a fantasy movie LOTR or some shit when that wise old man is talking on how the hero will change the fate of the world. Yeah that kind of vibes.
his lines are cheesy af, like straight out of a book but god is it incredibly effective. Most ppl will find it hard just pretending to talk like him. He and notail always pay attention to their teammates. They constantly uplift topson in ti8 and ana in both even when they win. You don't see this in any other teams winning or losing in 7 8 9 10 true sights.
@@th3f4t3 the junior/senior gap is perfect, while VP also had it when with RAMZES666, but ramzes is a cheeky little kid back then and kinda not respecting his senior, not like shy and calm ana xD
1:00:34 is what broke MC's mind "I just need MC to play like Ceb." And that's the word from KKY, his teammate. If you compare your teammates to others during the game, you broke his confidence and his game. Kuroky is indeed one of the best players but he stressed so much about the game and he didn't know he brought that atmosphere to his teammates. He even denied rmN suggestions. Fuck.
Not so sure about that. MC looked mentally done way earlier already. Propably also due to the series they had to play before the finals. If you look how he communicates during the game he doesn't look beat or anything in my opinion. Looks like he internalized the gameplan of being active, not giving OG time to breath. But they didn't really manage to do that, OG managed to get farm
Somehow every time I watch true sight it gives me different feelings. Thank Valve for providing new insights and information, which I believe made true sight even more interesting.
I think the morale difference really shows in this true sight. MC and w33 were taking picks they werent confident in just to not argue, and mc in particular looked real worn out near the end. Also man, hearing the comms during the drafts makes you realize how bad liquid got blown out in the drafting stage in games 3 and 4. Game2 was fine draftwise but misplayed, but games 3 and 4 the draft really bit them.
it really took them mentally for playing in lower bracket imo, they already too tired not to mention fighting a team like OG who literally unpredictable with their weird strat. dota is a mentally exhausting game especially if it a late game.
If only Kuroky listened to rmN In Game 2: rmN suggested to ban Ember: Denied In Game 3: rmN predicted OG will do Void and Tiny: Ignored In Game 4: rmN adviced to snatched the Tiny: Rejected Listen to the Coach’s advice, they did the Math and Analysis why wouldn’t he trust the Coach?
The mental fortitude from OG proved to be the main differntiator. Jerax topias and ana complete untiltable machines, and Ceb+Notail with the uplifting energy and good vibes. Best combo to date.
Ana is definitely the most fragile member of OG. he quit for a reason because he cannot take criticism, Ceb being a coach-like-father figure to Ana helps a lot for him to play. it was 100% Ana's fault hey lost the first game and Ceb basically sugarcoat everything he said so Ana won't succumb into grief.
@@eetfuk3571 do you even read the insight? n0tail said to Ana to hold his buyback until Liquid committed and cannot go back. But the dmg Liquid has caught them off-guard :/. Even n0tail explicitly said not to buyback
Topson enables JerAx aggressiveness, vice versa They can play aggressive in their respective Roles alonw but they’re Extraordinary Players when they’re together as a Team
I love Jerax so much, man! As a pos4 player myself, i try to emulate his play style and attitued. "I'm just memeing, johann. Don't worry." and "Ana....should we fountain relo....for the memes?" My favorite lines from any of these!
The way how the production showed both sides. I really love the perspective of both the winning and losing side. Thats how I get emotionally invested on how "human" these monstrously good dota players can be
I really like how you guys put facts and other interesting stats while remastering this video. non-DOTA players at that time can revisit this anytime like it was just like yesterday. kuddos! more true sight to come!
IMO this was when dota was at its best, the patch was fun, the pro scene was amazing, and this final in particular was EXTREMELY entertaining, i loved both teams and didnt care who won the series, it was just so awesome. TY OG for giving us amazing dota gameplay to witness!
Team Liquid (KuroKy): Me, My, I. I will pick for you. OG (Ceb): We, us, ours. You agree guys? Big difference in team unity and strength. Let's be real. OG is the most real team ever. Even in the new form. Strong as hell. Love them to the moon and back.
ya but in liquid's defense everyone had 200% trust in kuro the whole time, even when they weren't sure, they stayed quiet because they trusted kuro. It was just too much pressure after the LGD game
kuro really need to see this video to show him his relfection of himself...he need to try to listen to his own team, that's why he regretted not to give MC his NP (which a hero his confident the most)
I have sen this Doc 1000000 times and i never get tired of it, i still get gosebumps, i FUCKING love this OG team 😁😁. And i have to say, this new version with the stat commentary is amazing 😊👍
I bet you guys OG crew will come back one day. They will come back for the fans and for the vibes. I can feel it. They may or may not win a TI but they will come back. The level of "mind reading" OG had against Liquid is insane.
OG they crushed everybody in this TI but really Kuro didn’t listen to the Coach his opinion was on point in many time especially for the picks < I noticed he didn’t listen to the players even and force them for heroes ( he just need to trust them he has talented players )
Watching Kuro tell his team to shut the f*** up and ignoring their suggestions constantly is so hard to watch when compared to OG. I get they were stressed and it is pressure packed but Kuro really failed his team
Still gives me goosebumps when Ceb lifted the Aegis again...damn the best dota 2 team ever, well lets wait until ti11 if TS happens to get a back to back too hahaha
These are the kind of summary/recap videos I love the most - with tons of interesting trivia popping up every now and then ^^ Also: "Did you know? Smoking is bad for you."
Watching this now is too painful. I just can't stop crying. The legend is over. We couldn't see Liquid last year at TI and I can't believe that this TI would also be without them. This team is so far the best in Dota 2. And they will always gonna be in our hearts. Thank you for the epic history. I hope to see Kuro, Gh and Miracle one day again on TI main stage❤️
I still cant get over how MindControl is so tilted over Topson's pugna in game 3, he is so mad that almost all he said during that game is telling his teammates to kill Pugna first hhahahaha for example 54:51 🤣
I don’t know it is just me but after every TI every year i come back here to rewatch how OG did the impossible we should always believe in UNITY , TRUST & FRIENDSHIP
I think one of the mistake Liquid did was not to listen from the dude behind them, The dude was making an accurate call about possible picks and bans. And yet liquid ignored him.
Still can't believe people gave w33 so much flack when the series was already over after Miracle decided to play greedy and go mid when the team decided to go rosh and nobody said a word about how that move cost them the game. Dota is about communication and mutual understanding between the 5 team members. You can see w33 and MC constantly trying to make arguments but stopping half way because they know its pointless. TI9 Kuro was nothing like TI7 Kuro who went in with the "don't give a fuck" motto. Dota fans are so relentless and mindless sometimes. This team was dysfunctional and the Captain believed in the opponent more than he did in his own team, yet all the blame fell on one person. And yet, the squad has found 0 success after getting rid of the 'alleged' problem. I wonder why that is.
I mean, there were obvious mistakes across the board for TL and w33 was hardly at the center of it. At the end of the day, Dota players, whether teenagers or adults, they are still mandchildren at heart.
I could listen to KuroKy speech and pep talk about anything really. "They know how to play the true Dota, the true Dota is you play against your opponent like I always told you. They have the unity and the vision, BUT we do too in our ways." Just pure respect and class. A pillar of Dota legend.
Not sure if this is just me, but i felt it's was an extremely one-sided final when i watched the live stream back in 2019. Now True Sight has made it look way more back and forth and way more exciting than it actually was. Thanks Valve
kuro said losing matu had nothing to do with it but it said it all w33 is good but the way TL wanna play was 4 protect 1 matu is the back bone of that formation even topson said when TL kicked Matu, it was easy for them
I think after watching this again, kuro is the real problem in their team. He can't let his teammates have their own opinions that's why they are losing, look at them now at division 2 struggling. He must learn how to do Ceb's leadership to uplift his teammates and not just focus on himself.
i never doubted that diffusal pick up by Topson on gyro, i told my friends that it was not a stupid item and that it makes sense, then minutes later they all saw why 😂
Same bro i watched this live with mates when they picked bb and omni first thing came to mind was who tf gon buy diffu obv cant be io or timber. I jus thought gyro would buy silver edge🤣 boy was i wrong
"Let me do the talking, shut the fuck up" -Kuroky Well for me, it's all about teamplay, youre not the only one whose playing. You must listen to youre teamates. Youre just their captain. But not their mentor!
It's because u just only watch the grand finals lul ofc u don't know that, kurokky is a fking library on that year picking every single hero he can think off.
![[EN] OG vs Newbee BO3 - The International 2019 Main Event](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_pLnoRFf6Xo/mqdefault.jpg)
Ceb, in my opinion, is the single greatest player to ever play Dota not just because of his skill/strategy but his ability to help his teammates control their emotions.
This guy is the soooo toxic in pubs and yet very calm and calculated in TI. Weird as hell
@@modeski XD
@@modeski he probably dumping all his toxicity in pubs so when he's in tourney mode, all he has left are the positive ones haha.
@@modeski its possible to be good to the people u care about and bad to the people u dont care about
@@mausashi u say spamming chatwheel not toxic?
Feel so bad for liquid coach rmN after rewatch this true sight. He suggests to ban ember, denied by kuro and ember instant picked by og. Stating enigma was the problem after game 2 and denied by kuro. Suggest to snatch tiny pick after game 3 and denied AGAIN by kuro. He was so afraid when his idea turn down by kuro and stop discussing afterwards. And he still with them while they failed to getting to TI twice. For me, rmN is like Nisha in secret, he deserves better.
He predicted the Faceless Void pick too
Underrated due to the "dota influence" of KuroKy
imo kuro is a very smart man but sometimes his ego gets in the way..
I remember watching this TS way back and I thought the coach looked hesitant to speak his mind.
honest question - I never noticed rmN giving any suggestions (infact, I didn't notice him) in True Sight at all. Do you mind giving me a few timestamps of this happening?
1:18:12 that’s absolutely insane how strong Kuro is. After even losing TI final, he admitted that “OG is the best“. Truly, one of the most iconic moments of TI
perhaps he may be too 'strong'. If he had listened to his team, and let Mind Control pick Prophet, or ban IO, it could have turned out differently...
@@bobbykyn0 yo.. chill, kuro wasnt the best cap, but he is a great one
@@bobbykyn0 ikr, kuro listen too much to miralce- imo. and that make them lose tho
Well, he is the calmest mother fucker in the earth.
@@bobbykyn0 thats true, but he is the captain for a reason. he sticked to his conviction because the team trusts him. they would not have been there if it werent for him.
Notice how no one in OG questioned Topson's diffusal build on Gyro, that makes them a cut above the rest compared to the other teams, their trust on each other is so huge.
others in OG even tipped Topson after he got the Diffusal.
Topson is the best at what he does, there was no reason to question him, he knows best what he needs.
ummmm they were playing a carry io i dont think it gets weirder than that
@@samuelkdu bro u got me rolling 😂
well, they didn't know about the buy until the after the update prompt.
"When Topson starts making calls, you know the game has been won"
*CHILLS*
That's so fucking true, because Topson is like a midlaner and offlaner in 1. He also the best midlaner and very dominant even only having 1 or 2 items. Like he will run on you every time he see an opportunity.
Who said it?
@@samk7717 kalpit said it
@@aldrinmercado3475 when? what time stamp?
I can't overstate how much I heckin' love GH. He seems like such a genuinely nice chap who is constantly having the best time just playing DOTA. I hope they get back to their best soon. :)
LIGMA GONE DISBAND BTCHBOI 😂
"yeahhhhhh boiiiiii let's get fucked up!!!“ what a king
up to this date he is still good problem is he is with nigma. Kuro and MC are falling behind.
gh was the team's Ceb but they always shut him up. It was sad.
The True Sight didn't really show Kuro's mental frustration and how negatively he impacted the team.
There were many moments when he told his team to be OG.
Moments where he shuts them up (granted, his team did fall for the ench jebait in Game 1).
MC and w33 didn't want to do Tide/TA combo in Game 3 and yet they still picked it.
Miracle was silent. Gh buckles down. Kuro flew off the handle plentiful of times.
I think those clips were shown in the original TrueSight or perhaps it was in the livestream but it was brutal when I watched it.
@@wanderingbufoon Man when he told MC to be like Ceb, and he replied to Kuro , how he plays what do you want me to do and the frustration and sadness was in his face , this is next level fucked up shit.
I love how Ana actually voices out the mistakes of liquid everytime “greedy”
timestamp?
the greedy part really gives me chill everytime i watch it
@@m.k.partner9481 @38:23
What does it actually means?
@@zaky4978 too much core on liquid greedy
I don't think there's any player like Ceb on the other team. He's the one that give you psychological support and comfort you to keep yourself cool and stable
Team spirit got into Ceb when they said ez game haha.
@@LaxBboys ахахахаха
@@LaxBboys and now team spirit couldn't defend TI
TBH what makes True Sight for TI8 and TI9 is Ceb motivational speeches. It adds that feeling inside you like i don't know how to explain but it's so fucking good. Like you're watching a fantasy movie LOTR or some shit when that wise old man is talking on how the hero will change the fate of the world. Yeah that kind of vibes.
his lines are cheesy af, like straight out of a book but god is it incredibly effective. Most ppl will find it hard just pretending to talk like him. He and notail always pay attention to their teammates. They constantly uplift topson in ti8 and ana in both even when they win. You don't see this in any other teams winning or losing in 7 8 9 10 true sights.
@@th3f4t3 the junior/senior gap is perfect, while VP also had it when with RAMZES666, but ramzes is a cheeky little kid back then and kinda not respecting his senior, not like shy and calm ana xD
ceb being their coach for years helped
1:00:34 is what broke MC's mind "I just need MC to play like Ceb." And that's the word from KKY, his teammate. If you compare your teammates to others during the game, you broke his confidence and his game. Kuroky is indeed one of the best players but he stressed so much about the game and he didn't know he brought that atmosphere to his teammates. He even denied rmN suggestions. Fuck.
Not so sure about that. MC looked mentally done way earlier already. Propably also due to the series they had to play before the finals.
If you look how he communicates during the game he doesn't look beat or anything in my opinion. Looks like he internalized the gameplan of being active, not giving OG time to breath.
But they didn't really manage to do that, OG managed to get farm
The amount of Firepower in this finale is unmeasurable. Mad respects for Kuro & Miracle, etc. but this OG roster will always be Iconic!
more like flower power I should say!
Man the ending sequence with w33 is so heartbreaking but it wholesome at the same time to see them support each other after that tough loss
Someone started cutting onions in my house when he buried his face in his mom's* hug.
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Somehow every time I watch true sight it gives me different feelings. Thank Valve for providing new insights and information, which I believe made true sight even more interesting.
its like a good movie
New movie tonight!
Man valve is so smart to release these right before TI. I'm so dang hyped
ya that's what make valve a successful company. they know how to please their player base, but still fck them for not making hl3
Not for nigma fans of course, didn't make it to TI twice in a row, and now have to watch true sight of them getting crushed by OG
@@abdulfaqiman6822 everyone is Dota fans not only nigma fans 😌
@@abdulfaqiman6822 most fans of miracle are peenoise and peenoise are cry babies so yeah. this must be hard for them. lol
@@abdulfaqiman6822 no. True nigma fans would still support nigma even tho not qualified
28:40 next level mental strenght of topson
This note makes topson look badass af. Like "you can give me any hero and I will win mid for you".
I think the morale difference really shows in this true sight. MC and w33 were taking picks they werent confident in just to not argue, and mc in particular looked real worn out near the end.
Also man, hearing the comms during the drafts makes you realize how bad liquid got blown out in the drafting stage in games 3 and 4. Game2 was fine draftwise but misplayed, but games 3 and 4 the draft really bit them.
it really took them mentally for playing in lower bracket imo, they already too tired not to mention fighting a team like OG who literally unpredictable with their weird strat. dota is a mentally exhausting game especially if it a late game.
only kuro had listen to rmn, outcome would be great for them
yea kuro should have given mc his furion
@@erkanbarutcuoglu5233 it'll be a dumb pick after they force OG a trade of IO and Chen Omni.
If only Kuroky listened to rmN
In Game 2: rmN suggested to ban Ember: Denied
In Game 3: rmN predicted OG will do Void and Tiny: Ignored
In Game 4: rmN adviced to snatched the Tiny: Rejected
Listen to the Coach’s advice, they did the Math and Analysis why wouldn’t he trust the Coach?
The mental fortitude from OG proved to be the main differntiator. Jerax topias and ana complete untiltable machines, and Ceb+Notail with the uplifting energy and good vibes. Best combo to date.
Ana is definitely the most fragile member of OG. he quit for a reason because he cannot take criticism, Ceb being a coach-like-father figure to Ana helps a lot for him to play. it was 100% Ana's fault hey lost the first game and Ceb basically sugarcoat everything he said so Ana won't succumb into grief.
@@eetfuk3571 do you even read the insight? n0tail said to Ana to hold his buyback until Liquid committed and cannot go back. But the dmg Liquid has caught them off-guard :/. Even n0tail explicitly said not to buyback
@@soyamail yeah and you can tell that if left to his own decision (instead of asking) he would've bought back much earlier.
Jerax really is the best player on this team and they're all gods.
he's a great playmaker / setter
has a broad view of the situations around and can position himself properly
his focus is out of this world
@@fad.alrasyid yea u right
Topson enables JerAx aggressiveness, vice versa
They can play aggressive in their respective Roles alonw but they’re Extraordinary Players when they’re together as a Team
I love Jerax so much, man! As a pos4 player myself, i try to emulate his play style and attitued. "I'm just memeing, johann. Don't worry." and "Ana....should we fountain relo....for the memes?" My favorite lines from any of these!
Ana saying "We can fight this" gives me pure chills and goosebumps". The calmness and confidence in this guy is just immaculate.
hah same, it almost feels like a last stand war cry or something, bcs if they lost that fight- well I guess GG?
Gh- have you seen my sniper?
Miracle - No and i don't want to.
That's just so damn hilarious 😂😂
what time of the video?
The way how the production showed both sides. I really love the perspective of both the winning and losing side. Thats how I get emotionally invested on how "human" these monstrously good dota players can be
I agree girl!
I really like how you guys put facts and other interesting stats while remastering this video. non-DOTA players at that time can revisit this anytime like it was just like yesterday. kuddos! more true sight to come!
21:00
MC : Listen to Kuro, Go Throne.
Kuro : MC, please play like Ceb
MC : I dont want to
It’s hard rewatching it again seeing kuro and notail fought made tears to my eyes well best of luck ti11
I can tell kuro was really stressed at this series. I was glad his teammates tried to uplift his spirit.
I don't know what else spells weak leader more than what you just described.
@@konte641 for context they just fought the favorites at this tournament that being psg.lgd
The way every member of OG reads every moment especially Ceb, such a treat to watch.
IMO this was when dota was at its best, the patch was fun, the pro scene was amazing, and this final in particular was EXTREMELY entertaining, i loved both teams and didnt care who won the series, it was just so awesome. TY OG for giving us amazing dota gameplay to witness!
N0tail, ana, JerAx, Ceb, and Topson. man this line up is the Prime OG🔥back to back TI Champion 🔥
Dude, I’ve watched this truesight 20+ times... and still epic 😂. Best TI ever!
Same bro 😂
Best T.I. ever, 2018 - 2019 because of the sheer drama, intensity and how charismatic O.G. really is
Finally, the English version. 😆
english for the last upload I guess
Been waiting for ages!
@@twanto1139 they uploaded it but accidentally (or so I thought) set it as private
It was coming soon.
When you thought that the dota true sight videos are great already but they add insights it becomes perfect.
The respect both teams have for each other other is so much wholesome ❤️
Team Liquid (KuroKy): Me, My, I. I will pick for you.
OG (Ceb): We, us, ours. You agree guys?
Big difference in team unity and strength. Let's be real. OG is the most real team ever. Even in the new form. Strong as hell. Love them to the moon and back.
Wee was on liquid though?
@@jamiediehm7766 hahaha good one :D cheers :D
ya but in liquid's defense everyone had 200% trust in kuro the whole time, even when they weren't sure, they stayed quiet because they trusted kuro. It was just too much pressure after the LGD game
@@wichitawwojak3786 Trust in the leader vs trust in each other
@@kukurikapupu1469 Pretty much. Both schools of thought brought them to grand finals, but one of them had the edge.
ana and Topson are such professionals. "Down for everything"
kuro really need to see this video to show him his relfection of himself...he need to try to listen to his own team, that's why he regretted not to give MC his NP (which a hero his confident the most)
4 years later and nothing changed. He still dragging his friends with loses. Good thing for MC, he finally left and is doing good on Tundra.
"In my heart, if it's not me, i wish it for notail." -Kuroky
It's good energy in team that leads them to the victory .
And OG had that !
Whatever happens to MC this finals he will still be one of the best, respect to this Liquid squad.
the fucking throwback, OG TI runs will forever be engraved in the eSports history.
I have sen this Doc 1000000 times and i never get tired of it, i still get gosebumps, i FUCKING love this OG team 😁😁. And i have to say, this new version with the stat commentary is amazing 😊👍
always love to rewatch true sight of ti 8 and ti9 this so epic
Slacks we absolutely do not deserve you with all the work you put in for this community
It's ironic on what kuro said: "feel good on the hero they were using" but forcing MC to pick Omni and play like CEB.
I bet you guys OG crew will come back one day. They will come back for the fans and for the vibes. I can feel it. They may or may not win a TI but they will come back.
The level of "mind reading" OG had against Liquid is insane.
they are just giving us reminder that we need to see this every once awhile
The fog on the camera at the end made it a lot better. Felt like it was a dream.
really-really miss OG at that time
me too
This was the most interesting TI FInals because both have the same goal: become a team that won twice.
The first few minutes of music always gets me damn 💗
MArch 2024.... i watch these every once in a while
highly motivating and uplifting ti8-ti9 OG run
OG they crushed everybody in this TI but really Kuro didn’t listen to the Coach his opinion was on point in many time especially for the picks < I noticed he didn’t listen to the players even and force them for heroes ( he just need to trust them he has talented players )
Watching Kuro tell his team to shut the f*** up and ignoring their suggestions constantly is so hard to watch when compared to OG. I get they were stressed and it is pressure packed but Kuro really failed his team
Still gives me goosebumps when Ceb lifted the Aegis again...damn the best dota 2 team ever, well lets wait until ti11 if TS happens to get a back to back too hahaha
I'd rather have psg lgd win. Long time reward for their efforts. Better story than another back-to-back winner. plus ame really deserves it.
TS will be kicked by Tundra. This is LGD's year. OG will come 3rd place
@@necrophagists time traveler spotted
@@necrophagists every year since ti8 people have been saying it’s LGD’s year. Look how many TI’s they’ve won till today
Captains add so much life to this documentary.
The amount of technicalities they talked during games amazes me.. There's so much information and strategies wow..
These are the kind of summary/recap videos I love the most - with tons of interesting trivia popping up every now and then ^^
Also: "Did you know? Smoking is bad for you."
Watching this now is too painful. I just can't stop crying. The legend is over. We couldn't see Liquid last year at TI and I can't believe that this TI would also be without them. This team is so far the best in Dota 2. And they will always gonna be in our hearts. Thank you for the epic history. I hope to see Kuro, Gh and Miracle one day again on TI main stage❤️
How is that team the best in Dota2 so far?
OG won 2 TIs, I'd say they are the best team so far and I bet 99,9% of people agree with me on this.
Maybe they were the best when matu was still in the team, but when matu got kicked, they choked ever since
Worth the wait. Brings back some fond memories !
this is the dream team,, i just hope someday they all play together again in ti
Two of the best teams go head to head. Some heads are just better.
rewatching 10x now
I started play from demo of Warcraft in 90" to dota map in Warcraft 3 made by IceFrog.
Had no idea how far it will go, I'm so glad to see that
I still cant get over how MindControl is so tilted over Topson's pugna in game 3, he is so mad that almost all he said during that game is telling his teammates to kill Pugna first hhahahaha for example 54:51 🤣
Finally i been waiting for this
37:06 I love the interaction btw gh and kuro. 'lets go, go where? lets just throw our spells here.' its too funny.
Baldy such a goofy guy
I don’t know it is just me but after every TI every year i come back here to rewatch how OG did the impossible we should always believe in
UNITY , TRUST & FRIENDSHIP
2 best captain in Dota history, i love both teams, GG
And Miracle influnced me to play dota, after ti8, till now
25:06 "this game was officially a loss" just straight hard facts love the insights overall
40:07 another point xd
this is 100% SirActionSlacks 😂
THAT'S THE ONLY WIN LIGMA GOT THO 🤫
3-1 LIKE A BUNCH OF LIGMA SOBS 😂
@@dominiqueconche6347 when I see slacks on the thank you credit scene, I'm like "of course it's him lmao"
Ana continues to be Ana..
Truer words have never been spoken.
I think one of the mistake Liquid did was not to listen from the dude behind them, The dude was making an accurate call about possible picks and bans. And yet liquid ignored him.
@Professor Thinker welp i guess that is why they are in bottom of the group stage.
The level of mind reading on the drafts was impressive
Still can't believe people gave w33 so much flack when the series was already over after Miracle decided to play greedy and go mid when the team decided to go rosh and nobody said a word about how that move cost them the game.
Dota is about communication and mutual understanding between the 5 team members. You can see w33 and MC constantly trying to make arguments but stopping half way because they know its pointless.
TI9 Kuro was nothing like TI7 Kuro who went in with the "don't give a fuck" motto. Dota fans are so relentless and mindless sometimes. This team was dysfunctional and the Captain believed in the opponent more than he did in his own team, yet all the blame fell on one person.
And yet, the squad has found 0 success after getting rid of the 'alleged' problem. I wonder why that is.
I mean, there were obvious mistakes across the board for TL and w33 was hardly at the center of it. At the end of the day, Dota players, whether teenagers or adults, they are still mandchildren at heart.
Maybe w33 had a feeling of alienation and had to consider that he had to prove himself more. We can never really tell but still I feel bad for him.
I could listen to KuroKy speech and pep talk about anything really. "They know how to play the true Dota, the true Dota is you play against your opponent like I always told you. They have the unity and the vision, BUT we do too in our ways." Just pure respect and class. A pillar of Dota legend.
Not sure if this is just me, but i felt it's was an extremely one-sided final when i watched the live stream back in 2019. Now True Sight has made it look way more back and forth and way more exciting than it actually was. Thanks Valve
Its been 3 year but this scene 14:46 still gets me 🤣
lose or win i always love old liquid :"
What an amazing true sight, Cant wait for true sight 2021 psg vs spirit. Good job valve
I love kuro for many reasons and one of them is this
24:48 best quote from valve
With the amount of stress Valve has given the dota players however...
Still getting goosebumps
Edit: and still getting wet eyes seeing w33 in the end.
Man, this TI just had everything.
Great job Valve.Absolutely loved it. ❤️
Drafting phase to me was insane, both teams knows each others who to pick and who to ban, damnnn
I cant get over how savage TI Plus can be 💀
Ceb:this is win in my book
Bracket:it was officially a loss
Savage 😂😂
im a die hard OG fan..but i wish the bounce back of nigma...COME BACK SOON NIGMA...
"Ana continues to be Ana" 😂😂
-TI9 Truesight Insight
This TI notes like a video Dota Plus is brutal af
Edit: Jerax why you make our roshan cry? 😞😞😞
this OG roster need to be back again.
True Sight is one of the best things about Dota
Love the random and sometimes funny snippets 😂
kuro said losing matu had nothing to do with it
but it said it all
w33 is good but the way TL wanna play was 4 protect 1
matu is the back bone of that formation
even topson said when TL kicked Matu, it was easy for them
I think after watching this again, kuro is the real problem in their team. He can't let his teammates have their own opinions that's why they are losing, look at them now at division 2 struggling. He must learn how to do Ceb's leadership to uplift his teammates and not just focus on himself.
kuroky is still one of my favourite players of all time
this squad was crazy good
This is OG. The Best! Legend!
i never doubted that diffusal pick up by Topson on gyro, i told my friends that it was not a stupid item and that it makes sense, then minutes later they all saw why 😂
Same bro i watched this live with mates when they picked bb and omni first thing came to mind was who tf gon buy diffu obv cant be io or timber. I jus thought gyro would buy silver edge🤣 boy was i wrong
Ceb is definitely a time traveler.
"Let me do the talking, shut the fuck up"
-Kuroky
Well for me, it's all about teamplay, youre not the only one whose playing. You must listen to youre teamates. Youre just their captain. But not their mentor!
This was PRIME OG. The likes we may never see again ever.
WHAT? liquid held the record for the most wide hero pool at ti9 but they chose and forced TIDE/TA for 3 consecutive games
while playing the other 3 remaining heroes differently. they also have the most matches played at that event. so mathematically it's plausible.
It's because u just only watch the grand finals lul ofc u don't know that, kurokky is a fking library on that year picking every single hero he can think off.