CNC Machining a complete part in one Setup | Hermle C400 | SolidCAM | 5x chamfering
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Just Machining - 06
In this video I will show you the full CNC machining process for the shown part.
The part will completely done in one setup. The back face is just sandpapered after the cut.
⚠️ Please do not mill / drill / cut aluminum dry! This is just for video reasons and will kill your tools and parts. ⚠️
-- Technical details --
material - EN AW - 6082 3.2315 (AlMgSi1)
machine - Hermle C400 - bit.ly/3qQ3h6W
vise - Allmatic Telecentric - K - bit.ly/3qMVDdK
CAM - SolidCAM 2021 SP2 - bit.ly/36gnCZN
-- my video setup * --
camera: amzn.to/2SP5ymm
SSD: amzn.to/3yrRj65
Macro lens: amzn.to/3hWAYQz
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The left over at the end is 0,05mm, so the part is easy to take of and the Mimatic blade will also make a nice surface
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0:00 Intro
0:16 indexable drill - Hoffmann - D21,7 - 231605 bit.ly/3wz8Kk6
0:24 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D16-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
0:45 MasterSteel finishing cutter - Hoffmann - D16-Z7 - 204016 bit.ly/2TSuied
1:13 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D3.1 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
1:27 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D2.8 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
1:44 Fluteless tap - Hoffmann - M3 - 139171 bit.ly/2TVlFj4
2:11 MTC end Mill "PickPocket" - Hoffmann - D7,7-Z3 - 202004 bit.ly/3ec1dkS
2:30 MasterSteel finishing cutter - Hoffmann - D8-Z7 - 204016 bit.ly/2TSuied
2:44 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D4-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
3:16 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D3.0 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
3:27 fine boring - Hoffmann - D22 - 237586 bit.ly/3k5ROis
3:51 chamfer cutter 90° - Hoffmann - D4 - 208070 bit.ly/2THDgur
4:53 front/back deburring cutter - Hoffmann - D9.8-Z4 - 208180 bit.ly/3wArakv
5:20 carbide slotting tool - Hoffmann / Mimatic - D80x1.5 - 218226 bit.ly/3wfTPuU
5:56 finished part
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Funny that I spend 50+ hours a week programming and machining, and yet I'm still watching this for fun 🤣Also I'm pretty sure your collection of toolholders is worth more than my machines! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same haha 😂😍
Me Too! I own a machine shop, and I find my self watching other machine shops. I learn a lot from other peoples tool strategies. Million ways to make something, and I tend to find some folks have found a better way than I.
I know exactly what you mean, I basically do the same after work -- watch cnc on UA-cam :)) and i don't think that my toolholders are higher value than your machines ;)
It is one of the best ways! This is how i started years ago ;)
I hear ya brother. Same boat :)
Love your knives and youtubes.
I've never see someone use a saw blade as a detabbing tool before. No matter how much you learn, there is always something more to learn
I like the strategy of using the chamfer before saw cutting
Thank You! yes once you got that done parts will look just better in total.
Impressive. I didn't expect this kind of part can be made within 6 mins. Thanks for sharing.
Wieder (wie immer eigentlich) tolles Video. Da konnte ich wieder 3 oder 4 neue Dinge aufschnappen, die ich noch nicht kannte.
Der D16 Master... Schlichtfräser hinterlässt ne 1A Oberfläche! Klasse!
Vielen Dank! Freut mich, wenn du was aus den Videos für dich ziehen kannst, demnächst soll das noch gezielter kommen.
Der MasterSteel ist ein absolutes Schlicht Monster :) Ich nehme den für Stahl wie für Alu und bin sehr zufrieden!
thank you for taking the time to add the cutter/holder info, I hope Hoffmann are at least giving you a decent discount, I know I ordered a few tools based on the performance seen in your videos :)
You're welcome! But I think I am way too small that Hoffmann would take note of this, maybe sometime in the future ...
Thank you for putting the time into making these videos. Just getting started in this trade and seeing these videos get pumped
Get me pumped*
You are welcome! Have fun in the trade!!
Wieder perfekt geworden ... 💪❤️
Vielen Dank!!
I’m building my own tiny CNC milling machine with only 3 axis but I still have fun watching these vids.
I really like DIY machines, it is pretty awesome what people can do, I cant :))
I am finding it so fascinating. This is pure art for me.
Thank you man!
Thank you for uploading these type of videos.
They are really helpful for newbies like myself.
I would like to see the final part as well : "The back face is just sandpapered after the cut".
Thank you,
Jorge
in this case i need a secon operation, but most time i "just" do sandpaper
looks like a reflec sight body, something i was JUST looking at.
Interesting trick to hammer the part off the tab at the end! Can you show us how big that tab was? Seems like it was substantial!
i recently got good results with .15mm despite being brass.
0,05mm tab, according to the video description :).
The good thing here is that it is a solid ring so the 0,05mm (0,002") are enough as it will be super stable you even could to small chamfering after it (but really only smaller ones). But I really need a hammer to get it off I can't do it by pushing.
@@BavariaCNC Ah! It being a ring makes a lot of sense, I hadn't picked up on that! I humbly request 'tab shots' in future videos! :)
@@BavariaCNC I'd like to see what the cutoff end looks like before you clean it up.
Lovely work 👍🏻
Thank you!
Super Content! Genial, wie du jedes Werkzeug und alle erforderlichen Schnittparameter ersichtlich machst. Ich mag deine Bearbeitungsstrategien ;) Der schnitt und der Kamera Winkel ist echt Super! Vielleicht machst du mal ein Video in dem du z.B. die innenseite der Taschen 5-Achsig Simultan entgratest, oder zeigst uns sogar ein kleines Programmier Video! Zum glück hattest du keinen verschleiss auf deinem Gewindeformer xD Gruss Aus der Schweiz.
Vielen Dank! Ich werd mir mal nen Kugelfräser besorgen und so Kanten entgraten ;) Tutorials sollen noch kommen, aber ich denke für den Anfang werd ich erst mal einfachere Themen behandeln :))
Very impressive to watch, aluminium is always a fun for machining 🤟, keep posting. Want to see Aerospace parts machining in future 👍🙌
thank you!! I will keep on posting ;)
Wow. Nice!
Thank You!!
Almost ran out of room on the boring head, thanks for sharing. Charles
Thank You! Presetting is everything :))
I hate being machinist but enjoy watching it on UA-cam
🤣🤣🤣
Ohne Outtakes?😢
Spaaaaß😁wieder Mal richtig cool anzusehen👍
Vielen Dank :) Mir ist diesmal tatsächlich kein Werkzeug zu Bruch gegangen :)) aber ein kleiner anderer Fehler ist noch drin ;)
Awesome !
Thank you!!
Your work is fascinating
Thank you Jonathan!!!
@@BavariaCNC thank YOU. Do you use master cam? I’m a beginner and hope to be doing cool stuff like this one day
better than a movies on netflix :)
Love these videos! Are you running a production shop and showing some of the work or are these all just machining demo pieces?
Thank you! Those are productive parts, basically I show you here my daily work :)
Awesome
thank you!
I'm rather curious, how long would it take you to program a part like this?
Beautiful result,
lovely machine.
So how did you de-bur that .05 ring for completion?
A quick linish on 1000G paper??
thank you! You are right I just put it on a 800 sand paper to get it off takes less then 20 seconds :)
awesome
thanks Mark!!
One of the best videos showing the real part production process. Just curious if the chamfer mill can chamfer the the bottom of part after slot mill? Or it will have a huge chatter?
Thank you! The chamfering on the button is done with the forward/ backward debur tool. You see that it runs twice, so 1. Is with an extra minus in Z and a plus in xy so that the second run only takes in XY around 0.03mm
I see you have also custom modified your vice, I do the same to all my vices :)
Hi klasses Bauteil und Fräsarbeit. Frage zu den Spannbacken beim Schraubstock. Das die in der breite genau zum Bauteil passen Zufall? Oder habt ihr da eine Auswahl an Spannbreite.
Oder werden die von euch angepasst. Obwohl kleine Kontaktspuren zu sehen sind sehen sie nach Kaufteile aus.
Vielen Dank! Die Spannbacken sind tatsächlich Standard, ist hier Zufall dass Sie so gut passen. Bei dem Schraubstock bekommst du die in 38mm (hier gezeigt) 70mm und 100mm (sowie 120mm weich) Ich glaub ich mach mal ein Video zu dem Schraubstock der ist wirklich spitze.
Kennst du die Fräs Aufnahmen von der Firma Albrecht, wäre das APC 20 Futter zum TPC Fräsen interessant?
Share different materials & tools cutting jobs. Very useful. Thanks
thank you! I hope to provide different materials soon :)
6:17 someone's machined their vice jaws.😳
and those are the best looking ones :)))
@@BavariaCNC 😆
Bello Bello..
5.00min in, that was cool. I’m new to learning CNC, and using that double edge chamfer tool, then slitting saw was a cool trick to see.
What is that double edge chamfer tool called please? And did you leave tabs during the slitting operation so the part did not get thrown off to the side?
Thanks 🙏
My bad, I’ve just read the video description, and only a few weeks ago opened an account with Hoffmann 😁
Thanks for posting these great videos.
thank you a lot :)
Tolle Videos habt Ihr hier!
Laut dem Klang lief die Säge zu schnell. HSS wahrscheinlich. Hab nicht genau aufgepasst. Ich arbeite mit Zibafix-Sägeblättern. Teuer, aber eine Weltmacht.
Danke! ist ein VHM Blatt aber der eingriff zu klein für die größe, hätte ein kleineres nehmen sollen.
I'm very interested in this aspect. I want to make more clips.
I will do more for sure :))
Dude, Hermle and Hoffmann should honestly be paying you 😅
I will try to tell them :))))
You guys use Hoffmann tooling a lot, are they very reliable or affordable?
I have to say that they are probably not cheap, but reliable and the biggest reason is their application engineer he gives me an unpayable big resource of knowledge :)
Tolles Video... kleiner technologischer Fehler... die Fase am Gewinde kommt vor dem Gewindeschneiden oder Gewindeformen.
vielen Dank! beim schneiden kannst du das zu erst locker machen das stimmt, beim formen hätte ich Zuviel das die Verformung des Materials durch an der Fase abzeichnet.
Another great video! Why do you stop rotating the boring bar at the bottom of the hole?
Are you serious?
If the bar was still rotating during retraction it would make a light 'spring pass' cut (probably with variable surface finish) and take longer.
So to stop rotation, move bar in X or Y a fraction and retract it clear of the work has a faster and more certain result.
@@captcarlos I am most certainly serious, I am still learning. Thanks for telling me though!
Sorry for being such a smart ass at you James!
We are ALL just learning I can assure you!!
And the only really dumb question is the one you Don't ask.
@@captcarlos no worries at all my man! Thanks for answering!
Thank you, James. Carl described it right why I stop the spindle, If you look closed you even can see that the bar will make a 0,1mm movement away from the surface so that this won't get damaged.
可以可以！
非常感谢！
how do you program this transition 1:06...1:07 with SolidCAM? I was programming 5x machines with SC but never seen options for this transitions between different angle around A axis!
I have programmed an option in the PP to do that, but it is quite dangerous as it won't get simulated.
Isn't that just default heidenhain m128 functionality?, does it for me too, cool, but scary.
@@max_eley it is a standard function but you need to get it into CAM for a link connection this bring some tricky stuff with it, so i would not recommend it as standard
@@max_eley yeah, but Heidenhein has option Fmax and than you can control feed if nothing else. I know that software like hyperMILL have those crazy transactions but I am not sure how it gets simulated when it runs between different operations.
@@neznamkaj My iTNC 530 only allows F AUTO for plane spatial and plane vector, F MAX just error blocks.
it cant be simulated, i think vericut can simulate it.
jetzt weiss ich endlich wer mir meine Teile Fräst ;)
Wir ´lesen uns im Discord xD
Bis später also :))
Curious Why you guys use TiAlN coated cutter with aluminium? Geometry is wrong for the material and aluminium binds easily to the coating?
True words, but sometimes I need to use that coating as there aren't too many options available. And those finishing cutters are mainly designed for steel, but they are pretty sharp, so as long as you cool them, you are all good.
Beautiful setup, Machinery, and tooling. We like our kennametal over here in the states
Thank you! I have seen great jobs done with Kennametal, I will have to take a look here to get some.
Yo hago los filetes en general antes de los acabados para evitar viruta no deseada y no después de los acabados
both ways have their benefits
schickes Video!
Hätte aber noch Anmerkungen/Fragen.
Kannst Du uns bei dem Teil mal zeigen, wie das innere Entgraten an der Maschine klappen würde? Also die Freiformfasen.
Und es wäre schön, wenn die Schnittdaten etwas länger sichtbar sind, ich hab meistens erst geguckt, als schon Imperial da stand :D
Wenn die inneren Kanten erreichbar gewesen wären, hätte er das sicherlich mit dem 90grad Fasenfräser gemacht. Aber scheinbar ging das einfach nicht. Wenn du genau hinguckst siehst du dass er die inneren Kanten scheinbar von Hand mit dem Luftschleifer gemacht hat 6:15 . MfG
@@DancingMachine1 ja das habe ich gesehen.
Aber er zeigt ja schon sonst schicke 5Achsverfahrwege, dann wäre es doch sicherlich auch möglich gewesen mit einem Kugelfräser die Innenkanten zu entgraten?
Genau das finde ich nämlich immer interessant!
@@ShasOAunLa Ahja , Kugelfräser müsste klappen, ich glaube du hast recht. Na dann warten wir mal auf die Antwort des Profis :D
Vielen Dank! Innere Kanten sind tatsächlich gar nicht so viel schwerer. Bei diesem Teil wäre es wie @DancingMachine1 gesagt hat am einfachsten mit einem Kugelfräser von außen. Aber ich habe leider grade keinen da :)
Ich hatte hier in kleines "Zeitproblem" für die Schnittwerte xD da ich den Werkzeugwechsel ohne Referenzpunkt gemacht habe also immer direkt angefahren bin, hatte ich hier keine Pufferzeit. Ich weiß nicht ob ich beim nächsten wieder den klassischen Weg nehm dann gibts die wieder länger.
Gut gesehen die Kanten wurden leicht angefast von Hand!!
It's devilish.... on a conventional milling machine, these works are either very difficult to perform or impossible! What are these technologies? What materials are used for milling cutters?
Hi Serge! thank you, of course those parts are not designed to run them on conventionals, but with the actual 5x technology you really can to amazing things. Same with carbide cutters!
Ist der Werkzeughalter für den M3 Gewindeformer ein regulärer Schnellwechsler, oder erfüllt der auch tatsächlich eine dämpfende Funktion beim formen?
Bin mir sicher dass das bestimmt schon jemand geschrieben hat, aber ist es nicht besser zuerst zu bohren u. Gewinde zu fertigen und im Anschluss das innere wegzufräsen?
Der Radius am Ende der Bohrung belastet die Bohrer doch in der Regel eher.
Zum Gewinde schneiden in M3 ist das einzige auf meiner Arbeitstelle reguläre M3 Gewindebohrer in Schnellwechsel Aufnahme :(.
Hatte vor die billigsten M3 Gewindeformer und Gewindefräser (diese Interpolar Helikal verfahrenden) zu bestellen, um zu schauen was von beidem länger hält.
ja das ist ein minimalmengen Ausgleichsfutter, nehm ich bei kleinen Gewinden / Steigungen recht gern schon allein when der höheren Drehzahlen.
Does the machine oil the tap itself?
no i pre oiled it for the video, in normal production i just use coolant
@@BavariaCNC okay thank you for the reply 😀
Did that tap lube itself!?!
No no, I simply added some oil to the holes before that job :)
What is this part? If you can say ?
Sorry my customer allowed me to film but dont wanna get mentioned ;)
Welche Steuerung und welche CAD CAM Programm?
hi es ist eine Heidenhain tnc640 und ich verwende SolidCAM
@@BavariaCNC frohes Schaffen
Why do you use a steel tool for alu?
It is really difficult to find a good aluminum finisher. The DLC coated don't work that well for me, the "old" ZOX coated have been amazing but are not produced right now. And these steel are pretty sharp so they work well in aluminum as well and till now I am pretty happy with this solution.
how did you make the link between operation with same tool,is it machine control operation?No MB MAX
I did program me several options in the SolidCAM PP to choose which way the machine should handle the link between different angles.
@@BavariaCNC do you proof with an external g-code simulator your program.i also tried but with MCO at least i see some movement in SolidCAM but never worked.Is SolidCAM buggy.Nice work
@@arpadsomogyi4986 Right now I can trust SolidCAM and my PP so I didn't check external for around a year. the machine simulation is good in SolidCAM. But If you start with SolidCAM either use the 2020 version or wait a little with the 2021 this version is pretty buggy but with the latest SP it went in a good direction
@@BavariaCNC but the machine simulator dont simulate g code, right? So the linking moves are not simulated, or?
@@arpadsomogyi4986 correct the guide won’t get simulated and the links between single jobs won’t get done.
Why do you use a tapping head ?
Hi Niels! I like to use those for my smaller threads (M1 - M8) as here they help me to reduce the minimal failures at the moment of switching directions when tapping with higher spindle speed. For bigger threads or small threads with lower speeds you don't necessarily need that,
@@BavariaCNC aaaah i see, your right. Didn't see you where tapping at 3000 rpm... Hermle always looks so smooth. Next video stainless :) ?
4:17 got motion sickness on that cut. 😊
Hey, vielleicht siehst du das noch. Warum genau lässt du so viel Rohmaterial übrig? Ist es wirklich effizienter für dich, das übrig zu lassen und zu recyclen anstatt mit so wenig Verlust wie möglich zu arbeiten?
So viel ist es gar. Ich’s sind glaub 4 oder 5mm :) wenn ich’s dünner macht geht mir n bisschen die Stabilität des Sockels verloren :)
Bist du selbständig oder Angestellter? lg
ich bin selbstständig
that boring bar.. clearance is clearance hah
now grit blast it and abodise!!!!!!!!
That’s how it is done 😁
This is better than porn.
that tap doesn't seems to take off any material.. weird size of hole for this tap.
no material is removed here. it isn’t formed one not a cut one.
the formtap didnt even tapped it, the hole was to big hahah
He first drilled 3.1 at the top of the holes and then 2.8 the rest of the way.
the 3.1mm on top is just for end users to have an option to put the M3 screw in the hole before tighten it. But the rest is threaded ;)
100% correct!
Too big a component for such a small machine
Yes I should use a C62 :)