Started running in February and finished my first 5k yesterday 24:31 with a goal of sub 25. Took a lot of training advice from your videos. Keep it rolling Seth!!
i'm a little confused about the scores. It seems like "perfect" is 8 or 9 and really bad is 6 or 7... If the scale goes from 0 to 10 then why not use the whole spectrum in the reviews?
I also don't like that system but it's not unique to SJD. I think it has to do with the American school grading system where 90 - 100 = A, 80-89 = B, 70-79 = C (average), 60-69 (below avg), < 60 = F / Fail
I try to think “politically” about the scoring system. SJD is “beholden to no one” as he likes to say but in truth, if he was giving out a lot of 4s and 5s the free shoe spigot “might” dry up… so this allows him to keep what might be not great shoes in the same league as maybe much better shoes, but the price he pays is that when you say a shoe is “better” than another shoe and it beat it by maybe .1 or .2 that is basically a rounding error and not an indicator of a quality difference. Not a huge deal but def pay attention to individual ratings - when one attribute or another gets “hammered” with a 5 or a 6 that might mean look elsewhere if it’s important to you. In the end you just need to watch the full reviews, if you know your feet then you’re likely to get all the info you need.
@@aristodiga82 sort of the exception that proves the rule… that shoe was so uncomfortable he couldn’t run in it. My point is that shoe should be a 2, right? 🤷🏻♂️
@@michaellopour7409 that’s a great interpretation of the system. Been watching for a while and the way he speaks About The shoes really takes a lot to (his excitement/inflection/etc.). I think it’s a larger part of our culture. Most places ask for 5 stars if they performed as they should have. To me, that should be a 2.5- average. If they went above in a few wdd as us, MAYBE a 4. But most places should never get a 5. Look at the star system for chefs or hotels…5 star is literally the best in the world. I think this way of scoring takes out the nuance and makes it difficult as some one trying to pick a shoe (in this case).
Seth, today was the Orange County marathon, the winner did a 2:22:56, the course record is 2:22:45, the elevation is a gradual decline, 218 start elevation - 62 end elevation, just saying😉
Bought both SG5 and Trail V2, and for me the Trail V2 wins hands down! Much bouncier and easier on the legs for those long runs. Works well on technical terrain as well I’d say. Selling the SG5s.
I was about to pull the trigger on the SG5 (I have 300ish miles in the SG4 and love shoe, but they're about shot) but I'm going to try the Trail V2 instead. I'm 200 pounds and don't run very technical trails so this thing sounds like just what I'm looking for.
Great review! Thank you. Just scored a pair of the blue ones for $94 CDN ($70 USD) and while I've always been a New Balance fan, these ones have been the most comfiest right out of the box. We'll see how they do running this week when the sun comes out. Cheers.
Hi Seth, I loved the review of this shoe. I was never really into NB as a sports shoe. I was recently on a trip to London 🇬🇧 where we walked around 18km a day through the city and parks. Big mistake I took casual sneakers 🤦🏻♂️ my feet where aching. The next day I was on a main street and passed a NB shop, I immediately thought about your review…I tried them on and it was love at first sight they felt like slippers. I also tried the Fresh Foam X Hierro V7 but they were no match for the comfort of the Fresh Foam X More Trail V2 (now that is mouthful). Can’t wait to take them on my first trail run here in Luxembourg 🇱🇺 … Keep up the good videos they have so much energy!
Wow! I must say… I LOVE this shoe. I also own Speedgoat 5, and I think these NB shoes are way better. Very comfortable, no hot spots, and great traction. My fav shoe of the past 12 months by a mile!
@@chlapik1988 Hello, I just used these shoes for a 300 Mile section hike and really enjoyed them. Comfort and traction were great, the stack height might be a concern with ankle roll “depending on terrain”…at the end of the day I would recommend and purchase them again. I use them often for long trail runs and hiking… take care and have a great day. Another option is Altra Olympus 4 another great shoe.
I've been running and racing in these for the better part of the last year (including V1), I love them! They are comfortable and snappy when you need to pick up the pace.
Everyone saying the laces break and I can see how they loook cinched down. I love these shoes so much . Really hoping the laces and midsole last a long time. I’ve got about 60 miles in mine. Have you had any problems with the laces or midsole flattening ?
Have almost 100 miles on mine and I love them! Great long distance trail shoe that is pretty responsive on trails!!! Great review Seth!!! Butter my bread 🥖!!!
Just picked these up at Marshalls for $60 and I LOVE them. I'm a HOKA fanboy bc they fit my feet so well, but I'm loving these way more than my speedgoats. These shoes are amazing! Great review!
Seth. Regarding to durability.. fresh foam x lasts much longer than hokas eva compound. Hokas usually dry out and deform in a year, no matter how little or how much you use them. Ive used some nb ffx shoes daily for over a year and they still feel like new. Same pop and bounce
@@derekrichardson9652 ive had 3 cliftons 7s that all dried out fast. Clifton 6 too. 2 Rincons kept their cush forever.. even though the midsole got eaten through but it didnt lose softness. Bondi is somewhere in the middle. My 2 speedgoats also dried out. Who knows.. i just feel they are inconsistent with the foams.
Ran in the V1 last year, not a bad shoe…very comfy and will protect your feet for long distances. That said, at that price point, I can’t justify picking the V2 over the speed goat 4 or 5, Ultra glide or even the Challenger ATR. Onward and upward
Great review and I just got these after watching. I love them after my first hike in the rain and they are as good as the Speedgoat 5 to me. Great cushion and grip on the new tread. Fit great for me unlike the new Timp and Mont Blanc.
Great review as always, Seth! Thanks for mentioning the country of origin for this shoe. This is an important criteria in the buying decision for many athletes. (I would buy shoes made in Vietnam, but boycott shoes made in China, due to their labour practices and represive policies against some minorities). I have the NB Fresh Foam More Trail V1 and, like the V2, it has a very comfortable ride but not stable on technical trails. Best for gravel or hard-packed trails. No undue wear or issues so far.
QOD: Open water swimming, not as in going to the beach, but for a workout instead of pool laps. I’ve always wanted to do a triathlon, but I need to get accustomed to swimming for distance in open water first.
I have two pairs (one green and one yellow) for my very wide feet with high arch and hallux rigidus (severly arthritic toes). Love them. Olympus 4 and 5 have similar wide toebox and rocker, but the inside heel wears out very quickly. Speedgoat not wide enough.
Great review. Agree with the assessment on these. A very comfy trail shoe for long days out in the bush. Just wondering why it has taken so long to do a review on these shoes? I'm sure they came out in August, September 2021. What I do appreciate about your reviews is that they are usually not very long after the shoe drops which helps with comparisons of similar new offerings. In any case I'm glad to see this shoe finally getting the kudos it deserves. Keep up the good work.
I've tried both of these shoes recently after Brooks changed my beloved Caldera (for the worse, IMO). The NB fits my foot like a glove and is much more comfortable for me than the Speedgoats. I wish the NBs were lighter, however.
Thank you Seth. I placed the order of this shoe 10 minutes after I watched today's vlog. Got a nice deal for $140. Hope it will pay of for my next race Ohrid Ultra Trail 107K in two weeks. Greetings from Macedonia
@@leendeen8745 that makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the question. How is 8 perfect on anybody's scale? The only way that 8 can be perfect is if that is the highest potential score it can achieve.
The "Chonk-stack" magic in the More v2 trail is real, people. I like this shoe 3x more than the Speedgoat 5. The SG5 is fine, but that short tongue and the weird mesh-stretch make them a little unpredictable over 15 miles on trails. This thing is plush, soft, but bouncy. Great grip, and you can just bomb over trails and scree - and you're protected. Amazing shoe. Right up there with Xodus Ultra.
QD.. I've done it a few times (does it still count?), but I'm hoping to win a paddleboard this year (I enter every giveaway I can find haha) to get out on the Haarlem canals in NL to do some cleanups. Seeing NL from the water is such a different and amazing experience
Between this, the SG5 and the Ultra Glides, which would be the easiest on your legs in terms of recovery? All seem well cushioned and varying levels of responsiveness and stability, but for me the most important distinction would be the most forgiving on the legs
This NB More v 2 BY FAR is more forgiving on my legs, by far. The fit, however, is the key. If you feel confined in these on first try, don't think they will expand much because of that toe protect overlay.
If new balance could do what saucony has done with the xodus ultra by using a combination of bouncy fuelcell core and an fresh foam x outsole the more trail would be one of the best out there 🤞 for v3 😁
@@kristianandres7647 nothing wrong. Just to be aware that is a less premium product that focus mainly on durability. I tested briefly on a Topo shoe vs MTN racer 2 that has Megagrip. Trek Evo has significantly less grip on the wet and is much less flexible on the hard stuff. I have it on my telemark boots as well. You can feel the material is much stiffer and probably more solid. Still very good but why not Megagrip on a such premium shoe?
@@antoinedaina355 good to know, I have the MTN racer 1 and 2 unfortunately while I agree the mega grip is very grippy, durability on the terrain I run is pretty poor. 300kms and lugs are 75% worn off of the MTN 1 forefoot. Will be testing out the the More Trail V2 soon, snows finally almost off the trails. I will say this, guaranteed the Vibram XS is far superior to the garbage outsole on the V1 it was absolutely terrible even on dry terrain.
@@kristianandres7647 please let us know what will be the outcome of your testing. If you’re looking for a durable outsole, this one can well behave. You may also want to have a look at inov-8 shoes with graphene rubber. I find the sole of my TerraUltra G270 extremely durable with a grip not so far behind Megagrip. Cheers!
@@antoinedaina355 put 36km on them today in very mixed conditions, snow, ice, wet and dry rock, mud etc. and pretty impressed with the traction felt confident on pretty much everything except the ice which megagrip is terrible on too (la Sportiva blizzard are the only shoes I feel confident on ice with). Honestly quite impressed with the shoe!
What I like about this shoe is it fitters narrower than the speedgoat, and is a bit stiffer. Sort if like a true bondi for the trails, but for narrower feet.
I guess you're more likely to spend a longer time running in trail shoes, and given that raised heels of any kind are unnatural for the foot, the lower drop generally makes the experience more healthy. Over longer distances, I tend to get more tired in higher-drop shoes, so I can confirm that.
Been in the NB FF X more trail V1 for a year now and I like them enough to buy V2 as soon as REI gets them in, but agree about losing a couple mm stack height for better stability. My V1 is twitchy, I tend to twerk (roll) an ankle in them as I did in all Hoka's I've owned prior to better options. The NB FF X more fit my foot, Hoka not so good a fit for me, actually a terrible toe shape for my feet so no contest with V1 or V2 vs Hoka anything. Another issue I had with V1 was grip, it was a slippery trail shoe and not just on damp rock, but also on dry rock with a fine coating of sandy silty dirt days after the rain, I assume the new Vibram sole could help there, not sure because I have had Vibram sole trail runners that were slippery on wet rock, tree roots and wet wooden creek crossing bridges, in fact, to date the only Vibram sole trail shoe I've had with good grip on everything is the Altra Olympus 4.0 I alternate with the NB FF X more. Altra Olympus 4.0 has the same stack height as the NB but it is zero drop and the wide "footprint" orthopedic shoe toe shape provides stability in spades, I rarely twerk an ankle in them. I'm already on my second pair of them.
NB More V2 (trail) have better cushioning than V1 (trail)? I find v3 (road) much better in terms of softness than v2 (road).. so I was wondering if the trail ones follow the same logic.. Tkns
@@rogerbizarello9197 Hard to say, I think about the same. My V1 is shot so can't really compare it to my well-used V2. I feel the new V2 has a firmer feel but compresses well in use, but all my older running shoes end up feeling like flat tires in comparison to a new pair, even a new pair of the same shoe. The only NB FF road shoe I tried was 1080 V10, the testicle heel pocket was murder, set off a "dormant" couple of years healed Achillies insertion tendonitis condition which subsided when out of the shoe - I sent them back, but even with their lower stack height, I felt they were softer cushy than the FF MORE V!/V2 trail shoes.
@@rogerbizarello9197 I should add the sole width of the rear of the V2 is wider, that is it has a wider platform than my old V1, and as such seems to be more stable, and a lot less twerky than the V1.
Hi. Thanks for the review! Which shoe runs wider in the toe box? And particularly if you are aware of which shoe that's wide is the widest, I'd appreciate the feedback.
I purchased the speedgoat 5 for an upcoming trail race.... felt like I was running with 2 bricks on my feet on first run......🤣🤣🤣me thinks more trail bashing needed!....as the trail race I am doing is mainly easy going fire track, think I'll use the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 comfy, light and puma grip felt equal to the goats on the easy stuff..... and hopefully stability not an issue....maybe this trail newbie will regret it and yearn for those goats 🤣🤣🤣
@@gshick I'm not sure that Seth and his business model are under the same pressure that your local running shop is. But hey it's up to you. I'm sure that once your local shop is gone Seth will help you with fit and advice 👍
The fit on the V1 is definitely wider than the SG. It accommodates higher volume feet, which works well for me. The only disadvantage is that it makes the shoe a little more “clunky” at faster pace. But if you just want to go easy for long distances as Seth mentioned, the NB is a good option.
@@philippegagne268 V2 fit is definitely narrower than V1. SG 5 is a wider fit and the upper tends to stretch out with a few runs. That being said as with most New Balance shoes you can get the More Trail in a wide version. The V2 is substantially different than V1 the addition of Vibram and more locked in fit is a game changer. Just a bit of a bummer with the weight gain.
Thanks Seth for that review. I absolutely love this shoe but I would give the Speedgoat 5 the win. Would be awesome to see a battle between these two Godzilla's 😃
Couple comments 1st if you happen to live (like I do in eastern MA) near any New Balance Factory outlets you may be able to pick these up for much less $$. I bought the V1 for $99 while the retail was $165. You made no mention of toe box width. I own both the SG4 and the NBV1 and the toe box is far more comfortable on the NB and really a shoe made for less technical trail but for many many miles. I would never attempt the things I can do with the SG4’s in the White mountains with either the V1 or V2 NB shoes. They are just not made for those technical conditions. While the XS trek is an upgrade from the V1’s sole it’s no match for MegaGrip of the SG in technical terrain for grip and safety. These are really 2 different shoes IMHO. Frankly the tongue on the SG sucks. To short and no padding. I really dislike it. Very happy to hear about the tongue on the NB shoe. Not sure why manufacturers are sticking unpadded tongues in shoes. Terrible idea. I still have to own a pair of Speedgoats but for more mellow trails and my next ultra it’s going to be the NB v2 trail
What shoe do ypu recommend for rocky tech new england trails? I ordered some lone peaks and the olympus today from altra. I have very wide feet and suffer from blisters on my bunions. Holing the zero drop doesnt f me all up!
@@raynerussell7998 I have long feet (size 14) but not wide. I’m a big fan of the Hoka Speedgoat 5 with it’s perfect balance of cushion, weight, and traction. I’m not sure if the wide versions would be wide enough for you. Also really like the VJ Ultra. It has some of the best traction I’ve experienced. The other shoe I really like is the Solomon Ultra Glide. Traction not as good as other 2 but I really like them. You might want to try Saucony Xdous Ultra. I’ve heard good things about them. Sorry it is hard to recommend since I don’t have wide feet and everyone has their personal taste. I’m almost 50 and 185 pounds, so cushion is important to me.
Yea i tried the speed goats on in wide and they're still too narrow. I currently have the Nike wildhorse 7's and those are also too narrow. Hoping one of the altras work out.
energy return? sticking thumbs and throwing them down? geez...if youre reading this and want to get serious with science, gravity, newton and his laws, running biomechanics go listen Steven Sachen`s podcast with guest Coach Richard Diaz
Seth I’ve done over 400k in the New Balance fresh foam more trail v2 they got better & better as I used them, I’ve done a few reviews on my Chanel, 100% worth the money, thanks for letting us know the deromater test 44 my feet feel less beat up after long runs than the Hoka Stinson ATR 😮 🥳👍🍀🌲🏃🏼🏔😀
Started running in February and finished my first 5k yesterday 24:31 with a goal of sub 25. Took a lot of training advice from your videos. Keep it rolling Seth!!
Well done!
i'm a little confused about the scores. It seems like "perfect" is 8 or 9 and really bad is 6 or 7... If the scale goes from 0 to 10 then why not use the whole spectrum in the reviews?
I also don't like that system but it's not unique to SJD. I think it has to do with the American school grading system where 90 - 100 = A, 80-89 = B, 70-79 = C (average), 60-69 (below avg), < 60 = F / Fail
I try to think “politically” about the scoring system. SJD is “beholden to no one” as he likes to say but in truth, if he was giving out a lot of 4s and 5s the free shoe spigot “might” dry up… so this allows him to keep what might be not great shoes in the same league as maybe much better shoes, but the price he pays is that when you say a shoe is “better” than another shoe and it beat it by maybe .1 or .2 that is basically a rounding error and not an indicator of a quality difference. Not a huge deal but def pay attention to individual ratings - when one attribute or another gets “hammered” with a 5 or a 6 that might mean look elsewhere if it’s important to you. In the end you just need to watch the full reviews, if you know your feet then you’re likely to get all the info you need.
I forgot which shoe, but I remember Seth gave a 3 or 4 score for a category for a shoe, and the shoe end up with a total
@@aristodiga82 sort of the exception that proves the rule… that shoe was so uncomfortable he couldn’t run in it. My point is that shoe should be a 2, right? 🤷🏻♂️
@@michaellopour7409 that’s a great interpretation of the system. Been watching for a while and the way he speaks About The shoes really takes a lot to (his excitement/inflection/etc.).
I think it’s a larger part of our culture. Most places ask for 5 stars if they performed as they should have. To me, that should be a 2.5- average. If they went above in a few wdd as us, MAYBE a 4. But most places should never get a 5. Look at the star system for chefs or hotels…5 star is literally the best in the world. I think this way of scoring takes out the nuance and makes it difficult as some one trying to pick a shoe (in this case).
Seth, today was the Orange County marathon, the winner did a 2:22:56, the course record is 2:22:45, the elevation is a gradual decline, 218 start elevation - 62 end elevation, just saying😉
Bought both SG5 and Trail V2, and for me the Trail V2 wins hands down! Much bouncier and easier on the legs for those long runs. Works well on technical terrain as well I’d say. Selling the SG5s.
I was about to pull the trigger on the SG5 (I have 300ish miles in the SG4 and love shoe, but they're about shot) but I'm going to try the Trail V2 instead. I'm 200 pounds and don't run very technical trails so this thing sounds like just what I'm looking for.
@@locomike102 What has been your experience with the Trail V2 so far?
@@genslinton good question :D
As a New Balance runner, these do sound pretty awesome!
Great review! Thank you. Just scored a pair of the blue ones for $94 CDN ($70 USD) and while I've always been a New Balance fan, these ones have been the most comfiest right out of the box. We'll see how they do running this week when the sun comes out. Cheers.
Hi Seth, I loved the review of this shoe. I was never really into NB as a sports shoe. I was recently on a trip to London 🇬🇧 where we walked around 18km a day through the city and parks. Big mistake I took casual sneakers 🤦🏻♂️ my feet where aching. The next day I was on a main street and passed a NB shop, I immediately thought about your review…I tried them on and it was love at first sight they felt like slippers. I also tried the Fresh Foam X Hierro V7 but they were no match for the comfort of the Fresh Foam X More Trail V2 (now that is mouthful). Can’t wait to take them on my first trail run here in Luxembourg 🇱🇺 … Keep up the good videos they have so much energy!
9:28 That Speedgoat 5 is literally in front of you, lol you have too many shoes 🤣 Keep up the good work
Wow! I must say… I LOVE this shoe. I also own Speedgoat 5, and I think these NB shoes are way better. Very comfortable, no hot spots, and great traction. My fav shoe of the past 12 months by a mile!
hey Doug. you think, are they good as well for hiking? rocky terrain? thanks
@@chlapik1988 Hello, I just used these shoes for a 300 Mile section hike and really enjoyed them. Comfort and traction were great, the stack height might be a concern with ankle roll “depending on terrain”…at the end of the day I would recommend and purchase them again. I use them often for long trail runs and hiking… take care and have a great day. Another option is Altra Olympus 4 another great shoe.
@@chlapik1988 absolutely!
I've been running and racing in these for the better part of the last year (including V1), I love them! They are comfortable and snappy when you need to pick up the pace.
Everyone saying the laces break and I can see how they loook cinched down. I love these shoes so much . Really hoping the laces and midsole last a long time. I’ve got about 60 miles in mine. Have you had any problems with the laces or midsole flattening ?
@@psuedopathos I have nearly 600 miles on my multiple pairs and have zero issues with laces or the midsole.
@@fastfoodie24 amazing thank you!
Have almost 100 miles on mine and I love them! Great long distance trail shoe that is pretty responsive on trails!!! Great review Seth!!! Butter my bread 🥖!!!
People saying laces break easy. Have you had any issues ?
@@psuedopathos nope
Love the effect with the fisherman reeling in the $150 😂
7.85 for the speed goat
7.86 for the new balance
ABSOLUTELY Wow! I can't believe seeing this shoe beating the SG5's by .1 point.
Just saw the blue/yellow ones on sale for $80! They do look pretty sweet might have to go for it!
Just picked these up at Marshalls for $60 and I LOVE them. I'm a HOKA fanboy bc they fit my feet so well, but I'm loving these way more than my speedgoats. These shoes are amazing! Great review!
i just did the same thing lol 70 bucks ftw
Seth. Regarding to durability.. fresh foam x lasts much longer than hokas eva compound. Hokas usually dry out and deform in a year, no matter how little or how much you use them.
Ive used some nb ffx shoes daily for over a year and they still feel like new. Same pop and bounce
I have used HOKAS for years. I disagree. That has not been my experience.
funny, i'd say it's actually the other way round.
@@derekrichardson9652 ive had 3 cliftons 7s that all dried out fast. Clifton 6 too. 2 Rincons kept their cush forever.. even though the midsole got eaten through but it didnt lose softness. Bondi is somewhere in the middle. My 2 speedgoats also dried out. Who knows.. i just feel they are inconsistent with the foams.
@@ZenDao_85 Hmm. Not good. Sorry to hear that.
Ran in the V1 last year, not a bad shoe…very comfy and will protect your feet for long distances. That said, at that price point, I can’t justify picking the V2 over the speed goat 4 or 5, Ultra glide or even the Challenger ATR. Onward and upward
Great review and I just got these after watching. I love them after my first hike in the rain and they are as good as the Speedgoat 5 to me. Great cushion and grip on the new tread. Fit great for me unlike the new Timp and Mont Blanc.
I was pointing and talking to the tv when you were looking for the speedgoat 5 like I was watching a football game.
My guess is that you were thinking of the Hoka Mafate. That's what this shoe reminds me of.
This is my thought too
Was already unsure which one to buy between Trail More v2 and SG5….now I’m even more confused 😶🌫️….
Great review as always, Seth! Thanks for mentioning the country of origin for this shoe. This is an important criteria in the buying decision for many athletes. (I would buy shoes made in Vietnam, but boycott shoes made in China, due to their labour practices and represive policies against some minorities). I have the NB Fresh Foam More Trail V1 and, like the V2, it has a very comfortable ride but not stable on technical trails. Best for gravel or hard-packed trails. No undue wear or issues so far.
QOD: Open water swimming, not as in going to the beach, but for a workout instead of pool laps. I’ve always wanted to do a triathlon, but I need to get accustomed to swimming for distance in open water first.
I have two pairs (one green and one yellow) for my very wide feet with high arch and hallux rigidus (severly arthritic toes). Love them. Olympus 4 and 5 have similar wide toebox and rocker, but the inside heel wears out very quickly. Speedgoat not wide enough.
The road version is an absolute banger, can’t wait to pop my paw in these off road disco slippers 🤙
Great review. Agree with the assessment on these. A very comfy trail shoe for long days out in the bush.
Just wondering why it has taken so long to do a review on these shoes? I'm sure they came out in August, September 2021. What I do appreciate about your reviews is that they are usually not very long after the shoe drops which helps with comparisons of similar new offerings.
In any case I'm glad to see this shoe finally getting the kudos it deserves. Keep up the good work.
COMMENT OF THE DAY!!!
I've tried both of these shoes recently after Brooks changed my beloved Caldera (for the worse, IMO). The NB fits my foot like a glove and is much more comfortable for me than the Speedgoats. I wish the NBs were lighter, however.
Hahaha Seth ya looked directly at the SG5 there at 9:34 😂
Thank you Seth. I placed the order of this shoe 10 minutes after I watched today's vlog. Got a nice deal for $140. Hope it will pay of for my next race Ohrid Ultra Trail 107K in two weeks. Greetings from Macedonia
Skydiving! I want to fly this summer!🦅
Why is the fit at 8 when you call it perfect Seth? 😃 Love from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Because his scoring is nonsense 😁
@@leendeen8745 that makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the question. How is 8 perfect on anybody's scale? The only way that 8 can be perfect is if that is the highest potential score it can achieve.
The "Chonk-stack" magic in the More v2 trail is real, people. I like this shoe 3x more than the Speedgoat 5. The SG5 is fine, but that short tongue and the weird mesh-stretch make them a little unpredictable over 15 miles on trails. This thing is plush, soft, but bouncy. Great grip, and you can just bomb over trails and scree - and you're protected. Amazing shoe. Right up there with Xodus Ultra.
Any thoughts as to how they would be for roads? Trying to find something versatile that can hit all terrains.
7:52 I just bought these for around $93 plus tax because of Black Friday (Joe's New Balance Outlet)
Running shoe battle🔥🔥
so at the current Black Friday prices.., this is a steal. done deal
QD.. I've done it a few times (does it still count?), but I'm hoping to win a paddleboard this year (I enter every giveaway I can find haha) to get out on the Haarlem canals in NL to do some cleanups. Seeing NL from the water is such a different and amazing experience
May I please~ Love the looks and form but the soles may be sketchy on tech trails. roots/rocks and slickness Hard to beat the GOAT or Sense 4
Good morning, DGR!
what is the sizing? please include sizing in the future cause very very important for viewers
Between this, the SG5 and the Ultra Glides, which would be the easiest on your legs in terms of recovery? All seem well cushioned and varying levels of responsiveness and stability, but for me the most important distinction would be the most forgiving on the legs
This NB More v 2 BY FAR is more forgiving on my legs, by far. The fit, however, is the key. If you feel confined in these on first try, don't think they will expand much because of that toe protect overlay.
Ultra Glide 👑
New to the channel! Where do you get all your socks?? Thanks for all the great info and reviews!
What would you consider the best stability (voor overpronators) trail run shoes with max cushioning and stability? Thanks for your response.
If new balance could do what saucony has done with the xodus ultra by using a combination of bouncy fuelcell core and an fresh foam x outsole the more trail would be one of the best out there 🤞 for v3 😁
Summit Unknown v3 is coming soon - has fuelcell, keep an eye out for it!
Dawg u nailed it 👏 👌 💯 🙌 😂 🤣 👏 👌 💯 🙌 😂 88 boka hoka clifton
Thanks for the review. I would emphasize that it is not Megagrip but a less performing material. A show stopper for me at that price point.
What’s wrong with the XS trek evo?
@@kristianandres7647 nothing wrong. Just to be aware that is a less premium product that focus mainly on durability. I tested briefly on a Topo shoe vs MTN racer 2 that has Megagrip. Trek Evo has significantly less grip on the wet and is much less flexible on the hard stuff. I have it on my telemark boots as well. You can feel the material is much stiffer and probably more solid. Still very good but why not Megagrip on a such premium shoe?
@@antoinedaina355 good to know, I have the MTN racer 1 and 2 unfortunately while I agree the mega grip is very grippy, durability on the terrain I run is pretty poor. 300kms and lugs are 75% worn off of the MTN 1 forefoot. Will be testing out the the More Trail V2 soon, snows finally almost off the trails. I will say this, guaranteed the Vibram XS is far superior to the garbage outsole on the V1 it was absolutely terrible even on dry terrain.
@@kristianandres7647 please let us know what will be the outcome of your testing. If you’re looking for a durable outsole, this one can well behave. You may also want to have a look at inov-8 shoes with graphene rubber. I find the sole of my TerraUltra G270 extremely durable with a grip not so far behind Megagrip. Cheers!
@@antoinedaina355 put 36km on them today in very mixed conditions, snow, ice, wet and dry rock, mud etc. and pretty impressed with the traction felt confident on pretty much everything except the ice which megagrip is terrible on too (la Sportiva blizzard are the only shoes I feel confident on ice with). Honestly quite impressed with the shoe!
Love it. Love the color
I tripped 8 times today, 0 falls
I would love to hear how you compare this to the Nike Pegasus Trail 4.
Hi Seth, would you try trail shoe of KAILAS?
You totally don’t have to do this, but could you try and review a shoe in the newton line? I am interested to see how they perform.
What I like about this shoe is it fitters narrower than the speedgoat, and is a bit stiffer. Sort if like a true bondi for the trails, but for narrower feet.
why do trail running shoes tend to have a lower hell to toe drop than most other road running shoes?
I guess you're more likely to spend a longer time running in trail shoes, and given that raised heels of any kind are unnatural for the foot, the lower drop generally makes the experience more healthy. Over longer distances, I tend to get more tired in higher-drop shoes, so I can confirm that.
Been in the NB FF X more trail V1 for a year now and I like them enough to buy V2 as soon as REI gets them in, but agree about losing a couple mm stack height for better stability. My V1 is twitchy, I tend to twerk (roll) an ankle in them as I did in all Hoka's I've owned prior to better options.
The NB FF X more fit my foot, Hoka not so good a fit for me, actually a terrible toe shape for my feet so no contest with V1 or V2 vs Hoka anything.
Another issue I had with V1 was grip, it was a slippery trail shoe and not just on damp rock, but also on dry rock with a fine coating of sandy silty dirt days after the rain, I assume the new Vibram sole could help there, not sure because I have had Vibram sole trail runners that were slippery on wet rock, tree roots and wet wooden creek crossing bridges, in fact, to date the only Vibram sole trail shoe I've had with good grip on everything is the Altra Olympus 4.0 I alternate with the NB FF X more.
Altra Olympus 4.0 has the same stack height as the NB but it is zero drop and the wide "footprint" orthopedic shoe toe shape provides stability in spades, I rarely twerk an ankle in them. I'm already on my second pair of them.
NB More V2 (trail) have better cushioning than V1 (trail)?
I find v3 (road) much better in terms of softness than v2 (road).. so I was wondering if the trail ones follow the same logic..
Tkns
@@rogerbizarello9197 Hard to say, I think about the same. My V1 is shot so can't really compare it to my well-used V2. I feel the new V2 has a firmer feel but compresses well in use, but all my older running shoes end up feeling like flat tires in comparison to a new pair, even a new pair of the same shoe. The only NB FF road shoe I tried was 1080 V10, the testicle heel pocket was murder, set off a "dormant" couple of years healed Achillies insertion tendonitis condition which subsided when out of the shoe - I sent them back, but even with their lower stack height, I felt they were softer cushy than the FF MORE V!/V2 trail shoes.
@@mpix8302 tks
@@rogerbizarello9197 I should add the sole width of the rear of the V2 is wider, that is it has a wider platform than my old V1, and as such seems to be more stable, and a lot less twerky than the V1.
Hello. Regarding running with mud do they have good grip?
Hi. Thanks for the review! Which shoe runs wider in the toe box? And particularly if you are aware of which shoe that's wide is the widest, I'd appreciate the feedback.
I purchased the speedgoat 5 for an upcoming trail race.... felt like I was running with 2 bricks on my feet on first run......🤣🤣🤣me thinks more trail bashing needed!....as the trail race I am doing is mainly easy going fire track, think I'll use the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 comfy, light and puma grip felt equal to the goats on the easy stuff..... and hopefully stability not an issue....maybe this trail newbie will regret it and yearn for those goats 🤣🤣🤣
Should I buy through your affiliate link, or support my local running shop? I’m having a moral dilemma!!
Do you want your local running shop to be there when you need them? Do you think the people working in the local running shop deserve to be employed?
@@72matt19 of course, but I also want Seth’s channel to be around and I think he deserves a career
@@gshick I'm not sure that Seth and his business model are under the same pressure that your local running shop is. But hey it's up to you. I'm sure that once your local shop is gone Seth will help you with fit and advice 👍
@@gshick YoutTubers also get paid per view, so Seth has that going for him.
Was the Speedgoat 5 not there in the centre of the wall?
Which of those shoes has the firmest sole, I find some shoes twist too much.
QOD:
White water rafting!
hey seth, have you tried On trail shoes? curious to get your opinion on how they fare in your stomping grounds :)
He has, literally ripped one when putting it on the first time. Later he gave On a second chance and liked them better.
At 165 plus a lovely tax, they should at least come with a sticker, floppy sun hat, and a Happy Meal. Nope. Purchased anyway
How wide are these say compared to a nike wildhorse?
if its wider than the SpeedGoat then I'll give it a go
It is wider
They have a wide option
The fit on the V1 is definitely wider than the SG. It accommodates higher volume feet, which works well for me. The only disadvantage is that it makes the shoe a little more “clunky” at faster pace. But if you just want to go easy for long distances as Seth mentioned, the NB is a good option.
@@philippegagne268 V2 fit is definitely narrower than V1. SG 5 is a wider fit and the upper tends to stretch out with a few runs. That being said as with most New Balance shoes you can get the More Trail in a wide version. The V2 is substantially different than V1 the addition of Vibram and more locked in fit is a game changer. Just a bit of a bummer with the weight gain.
@@kristianandres7647 : well with the added vibram, it's normal to add weight
Thanks Seth for that review. I absolutely love this shoe but I would give the Speedgoat 5 the win. Would be awesome to see a battle between these two Godzilla's 😃
Seth what were you carrying in you pack the the More x v2 video?
hey all, Did anyone use those for hiking? (rock terrain)
Seth, have you tried the Norda 001 yet?
I want to go hot air ballooning this summer.
Couple comments
1st if you happen to live (like I do in eastern MA) near any New Balance Factory outlets you may be able to pick these up for much less $$. I bought the V1 for $99 while the retail was $165.
You made no mention of toe box width. I own both the SG4 and the NBV1 and the toe box is far more comfortable on the NB and really a shoe made for less technical trail but for many many miles.
I would never attempt the things I can do with the SG4’s in the White mountains with either the V1 or V2 NB shoes. They are just not made for those technical conditions.
While the XS trek is an upgrade from the V1’s sole it’s no match for MegaGrip of the SG in technical terrain for grip and safety. These are really 2 different shoes IMHO.
Frankly the tongue on the SG sucks. To short and no padding. I really dislike it. Very happy to hear about the tongue on the NB shoe. Not sure why manufacturers are sticking unpadded tongues in shoes. Terrible idea.
I still have to own a pair of Speedgoats but for more mellow trails and my next ultra it’s going to be the NB v2 trail
Haha, I literally got some of these 4 weeks ago..
Mt. Morrison.
Anybody wear these for ultra 50, 100 milers?
Only 1 year late
Sounded great until you spoke of not being great on techy trails. A big stop sign for East cost runners.
What shoe do ypu recommend for rocky tech new england trails? I ordered some lone peaks and the olympus today from altra. I have very wide feet and suffer from blisters on my bunions. Holing the zero drop doesnt f me all up!
@@raynerussell7998 I have long feet (size 14) but not wide. I’m a big fan of the Hoka Speedgoat 5 with it’s perfect balance of cushion, weight, and traction. I’m not sure if the wide versions would be wide enough for you. Also really like the VJ Ultra. It has some of the best traction I’ve experienced. The other shoe I really like is the Solomon Ultra Glide. Traction not as good as other 2 but I really like them. You might want to try Saucony Xdous Ultra. I’ve heard good things about them. Sorry it is hard to recommend since I don’t have wide feet and everyone has their personal taste. I’m almost 50 and 185 pounds, so cushion is important to me.
Yea i tried the speed goats on in wide and they're still too narrow. I currently have the Nike wildhorse 7's and those are also too narrow. Hoping one of the altras work out.
Speedgoat 7.85
4:54 it’s what?? 👁👄👁
Are you a pro?
Ride my horse on the beach!!
energy return? sticking thumbs and throwing them down? geez...if youre reading this and want to get serious with science, gravity, newton and his laws, running biomechanics go listen Steven Sachen`s podcast with guest Coach Richard Diaz
Nah that’s pushing it way too much being better than the Speedgoat 5
No. Definitely not.
Third? Great vid ❤️
Hi Seth, I wrote you a DM, please check it out 😉
Nice silhouette but it looks like they let a 3 year old loose with some crayons to design it.
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Seth I’ve done over 400k in the New Balance fresh foam more trail v2 they got better & better as I used them, I’ve done a few reviews on my Chanel, 100% worth the money, thanks for letting us know the deromater test 44 my feet feel less beat up after long runs than the Hoka Stinson ATR 😮 🥳👍🍀🌲🏃🏼🏔😀